Capricorn Men? (Page 2)

Well Pathfinder you said it....and me being who I am it makes no matter to me I know what he is doing and it thrills me to know this...this is a challenge to me. What will be will be. But let me ask you one question. I have some tools of his, and he knows it he called me about it and the conversation was very short he said hey, and I said Hi, he then asked me if I had some tools of his in my car and I said yea and he said ok and I said ok take care. then I hung the phone up and started laughing...my only conclusion is that he is not going to get the tools until he is ready to see me talk to me etc.... I know that he is trying to make a decision and he will go with out his tools until he comes to decision. Am I right.

Scorpianlady
I know I'm new to this board, but I agree with you HE will make the decision but that is exactly the point I've come to is being SICK AND TIRED OF OTHER PEOPLE MAKING THESE DECISIONS FOR ME, but good luck, I for one will not play these games anymore

I have not only stepped back, I have stepped O-U-T!!!!!!
and I can't tell you the relief I feel.
I feel as if I've been let out of prison, i don't care what they're thinking, feeling, talking about, picking their noses, whatever...don't care.
I can breathe again.
No more wondering if they'll call write IM or anything. have you seen the commercial where the girl takes her ex's number off her cell phone? That is the feeling.
At first I felt soooooooooooo uncomfortable because it goes against my grain but if you keep doing something over and over again it starts to feel comfortable. and being gone, physically, mentally and emotionally is starting to feel very good right now.
Now I know with their incredible radar...there will most likely be another call, but...I DON'T CARE...I have moved on, and for the moment, even if I am alone I have friends, I have people who really DO care and aren't afraid to show it, and that's not a bad thing. We have no idea about one another's pasts, but I know I've wasted far too much time trying to get the impossible man to love me, maybe I'm the one who likes the challenge. Quite honestly, with one of these guys I knew in my heart of hearts and would even say to my friends that if I ever really GOT him and he asked me to marry him, I'd say no, because I knew I'd get tired of his BS that wouldn't end with marriage or any other so-called committment.
So yes, all these experiences does make one look at oneself, that's what I was talking about before, the masochism...time to make some changes in myself and then perhaps will attract a man who won't be into being sadistic. The shrinks always say that a sadist can sense a masochist a mile away and will zoom in for the kill to satisfy their own sick needs. I know I'm getting really heavy here and I'm not talking about real real sickos but we all have some baggage that hangs us up in these relationship issues. At least I do.

interesting .... so the word "cookiemonster" is the polite word for "b1tch" (in the complaining sense, ladies)....

APW~ I know you need to vent, but the negativity is really taking over. Check out this site, I really think you'll find it helpful. http://members3.boardhost.com/commitment/

Pathfinder? No I did not say that about them being cheaters, I don'tk now who said that but not me.....I am not bitter at them at all, right know if I met another cappy the table will difinatly be turned in my favor because now I know...I forgive but I never forget....Yes I do want my Cappy but I am not going to beg plea or anything that will make me look like a fool to him no....Cappies look at people being beneath them and not worthy of knowing somethings about them...but I am a very strong person and very stubborn just like them. and if Space is what they need then you got it I can respect it My thing is just be a man about it, that's what makes me be more determine to stay away and enjoy my own space because of their sometimes childish ways...

negative? not really, more looking to change to more positive behavior, but thanks for the tip...always willing to learn from past mistakes

CapGirl, Thanks, I will keep yall posted as to the outcome but trust me. I now enough about him that when he does come around I will be there...I do love him but I don't have to show it to him or prove it to him anymore...See the thing is, when we took this space we were already having issiues....I was trying to take the space and he would call and say he is stuck somewhere and I would go get him..I am not a mean person..I can be mean but two wrongs don't make a right. He knows what I want and what I am not going to except he knows my needs he knows I was unhappy and I started to shut down and he had to make it right..etc...that is why I cussed him out he disrepected me and that was the last stray I threatened him and told him if he do it again, as much as I love him I will leave him and if he thinks I am playing try me....he said nothing of course...so this space is really good for the both of us....I have no hard feelings or bad thoughts about him I'm just not going to play that game with him and he knows it..and that's why he needs to find the courage to say what he needs to say..... And all the words I have to say will come out and if we both agree on a relationship or a friendship either way we would still be very close.

ScorpionLady, I didn't say you said caps being cheaters, I was commenting on the post APW noted about them being unfaithful.

Oh, one other thing, ScorpioLady, I didn't say you were bitter either. That message was to APW. I just don't want her to carry that negative energy around. But she seems fine. So maybe I was wrong. I apologize, APW.

WOW, ladies let me say you guys bring up some great points (keep em coming)!

I really do 'want' my cap and I'm being patient and sticking in there with him for right now. I don't really think it's fair that we have to wait around on there time, but I guess if we're really willing to hang in there, that's the way it has to be.

As someone said, it is kind of selfish on there part, but I guess they can't help it. I've learned that mine can't multitask either. He is either working out or working and he focuses all his mind on that one thing. It's like they have step-by-step things to do but just can't do them all at once. They love routine!

oh I don't want to start a fight here, we all have different experiences...mine and some of my girlfriends with caps have been very trying to say the least. So yes there is a little bitterness involved, because i did hang in and hang in and hang in and gave him his space etc etc, but after 3 1/2 years really almost 4 i just started to feel like a rubber band. and it just destroyed my self esteem to the point where i started to get physically sick. and as i said, when he was there he was soooo there, "i love you, you're the best, there's no one else like you, i've never loved a woman like you before, you're the nicest, most sane person i've ever been attracted to."(see he used to always date total pyscho's) my own take on that is that he needed to be in control. His family loved me, thought i was the best thing to ever happen to him and on top of that we had so much fun together, really connected. But and here's the rub, he couldn't handle it. He couldn't handle a stable relationship without all the drama, now maybe that's just him, but as i also said, i have a couple of close friends who were with totally different cap guys and it was exactly the same scenerio. so bottom line is yes, it really hurt. But when i talk about moving in a more positive direction I'm talking about this new guy, who is probably an old guy now, because i am not behaving as i did with the old, I'm not jumping to see him when he calls after not calling in 2 weeks etc. I just can't handle that kind of thing anymore.The uncertainty, the insecurity, the rubber band back and forth. Maybe other women can, but I just can't do it to myself anymore. Too exhausting. I really hope things work out for all of you who seem to be handling it, I'm just glad to know that there are such big similarities with these guys. and yes, i know guys are different, and truthfully I don't want someone joined to my hip either, i need my space too. But I think i need to swear off Cap guys for the most part, i don't want someone at MY beck and call either, sometimes i need to go into MY cave too, but I can say that to someone whereas the caps i know don't do that, they just go without a word, It would be so much nicer if they'd just say "Hey honey, i need to just chill awhile" instead of just disappearing without any warning or notice.
Like I said before, I'm SURE they are not all exactly alike, I have just not been lucky with them.

i swear this site is soooo freaking stimulating!!! it so nice to read what everyone has to say!!! And it is strange how all these men pretty much act the same..

BUt I love mine and I have faith and a forgiving heart...I will wait for his return and forgive him of the pain he caused...

Morning ladies and OJ if your reading~


have a wonderful day!!

I just read, they can take pages to say little. How about that pathfinder needs to find his way to a pub and have a few, It might give him a sence of direction.

pathfinder is a HE?

they are bulidng a pub across the street from my house.... guess where ill be every other weekend? he he!! at least its close... i can walk home! lol

Pathfinder is very much a "she". The "Old Goat" always seems to muddy the waters...

GEG~ what's up? Have you figured out why in the world the Cap. wants you out of his life completely?? He sounds like he has issues.

Darnit if my heartstrings aren't being tugged on, literally aching chest, since that recent contact from him. Love really can't be this difficult?

I thought she was a she but was not sure if maybe she was a he/she and did not want to step on anyones toes... if you know what i mean!! But im glad that we have cleared it up and thank you!!

Capgirl~
I talked to Carly after I was not to except that information unless those words coem from his mouth to me...so i asked her once again ( she is my best friend not cousin of 13 years... darn near sisters though...lol) anyhoo I said so BRIAN said he wanted me out of his life completley..... and her response was....well NO he did not say those exact words but it sure sounded as if thats what he was getting at.... LOL well unless you know him like i know him then i guess she would not understand what we was trying to say (all in my head of course) lol so i got off the phone with a smile!!! HE wants his space is all he never said that.... what he did tell her though is that he did not want her to give me his new number (had to get a new phone, new job ect..long story) anyhoo he asked her to please not give me his new number...knowing damn well that if i wanted it I could get it...and i have it but will i use it.... NO!! lol I will wait for him to contact me as i know he will!

I have been doing amazing... im surprised!! I miss the hell out of my baby goat! But im doing good keeping my self happy,busy! The weird thing.... I can feel him thinking about me too and even though its only been 12 days since we have seen and talked to eachother this time is different...adn im not worried about anything ...lol strange he he he!!

I know OJ your rolling your eyes again!!! ha ha ha


anyhoo so thats my story as of late!!!
you know something OJ said a while back "WE LOV WOMEN we just don't like being around them unless we have to. you know if we are hungery or horney."


It's sad but you know i can see truth behind that....!!! he he he

GEG~ I think 'baby goat' feels the strong pull/connection and is not ready to submit.

To OJ~ I don't buy into or like that 'hungry/horny' line... Some women are cool and not your 'typical female' (i.e. chatty and all emotional, etc.), and can just hang out w/o all the drama and constant conversation. Plus, I rarely cook for any man, so there's no reason to come here when hungry!

GEG~ I'm sure you've read this, but thought I'd throw it in:

*****
Sun-Moon aspects in synastry are highly touted, with good reason. The Sun and the Moon are natural companions in the sense that they complement each other. When they come together in synastry, yin meets yang, day meets night, the subconscious mind meets the conscious mind, and so forth.

The conjunction of the Sun and the Moon in synastry is a powerful connection. How it plays out will have much to do with the condition of these luminaries in the individual charts. Attraction to one another is usually there regardless, perhaps felt most by the Moon person initially. As a relationship develops between the two, a dynamic inevitably emerges in which the Moon person plays a supportive role (sometimes a dependent or submissive role) to the Sun person, who tends to lead the relationship in some manner.

A note should be made about gender and whose Moon and whose Sun is involved. Although both ways is powerful, in some cases when the man's Moon conjuncts the woman's Sun, problems arise. This happens when the man feels uncomfortable in his role as the moody, sympathetic, and somewhat dependent Moon -- a role that he might assign to women. In this day and age, however, either male or female playing the role of the Moon to the Sun may feel some kind of resentment over time. Just as the Moon reflects the Sun's light, the Moon person is naturally inclined to play a supportive and sometimes submissive role to the Sun. It doesn't need to be submissive--instead, it can be considered supportive. How comfortable the Moon person is with this role is critical. In the same vein, the Sun person's comfort levels with playing the role of the Sun should be considered as well. Not everyone wants to be the leader in a relationship!
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Have you run a synastry report w/ your and his birth-times, which would confirm that the Gem/Gem, Cap/Cap are truly conjuncts? Both could be, or one may be and the other not... Obviously, the Cap/Cap one is the more important of the two.

crap i tried to repsond.... but it did not go through!!!!


if you would mind helping me out or looking into it for me i would appreciate it

Brandy
6/04/1977
12:55a.m.
fresno, ca


Brian
1/04/1985
1:28p.m.
fresno,ca

My program is showing just the Gem/Gem conjunct. It won't let me cut/copy the report, or I'd have pasted it in. (There are several other interesting, positive aspects.) Try one of the free report sites found here:

http://www.cafeastrology.com/freeastrologyreports.html

I do the cooking, and I am good perhaps I like conversation with the meal, I agree there are weman who are far ahead of somemen when it comes to being compatable, However in my case I end up drinking and talking with them and not sleeping with them. which is alright I guess.

o thank you, yes i have used the cafe one before...lol I just read them dont understand the conjunt... and all that!!


I know that B and I have more postivie then negative!! So thats a good sign it also said that we have a strong LOVE for each other and understanding for each other!! LOL


he's my man ladies im tellig you!!! he he

Pathfinder, no hard feelings, I really wish you ladies a lot of luck, I think I had mentioned that a coworker of mines was married to a Cappy for 14 years and she gave me insight on there behaviour...and know that she know we are not seeing each other and every time something happened to me she be like did you call you know who...and I said no for what...she is tripping that I refuse to call this man, but what she does not understand is from my stand point....you made your bed you lie in it. I do no chasing or begging, he wanted space he got space. know whether it is to make a decision about us or not it was still his choice. Me calling him know would be like begging, in my eyes and giving him more control then he needs from me right know with knowing where we stand...I told her she has me twisted...LOL...and to make matters even worst...I befriended a Cappy in my building after not speaking to him for months because I did not know who he was well...darnit...we became friends..he comes to my apt and we drink, he as been fixing my car etc...but the thing that trips me out is that...I told him that I have a friend and we are going to growing pains, and I love him and I know there is attraction from him to me. but I can only be your friend at the moment...well hell I thought he understood this (The Cappy I Befriended) he called me yesterday and was like why didn't you call me today? and I was like call you for what, he said to say goodnight or to see how I am doing...I was like you know where I live if you wanted to talk to me you could have come to my house...then he made the comment about since I been talking to you..and I am trippin know because I am like what part of me saying to him I want to just be friends he don't understand...LOL...so I sat back and was like damn what did I do...so this morning I call myself leaving out the house early so I don't see him...LOL long an behold he was in the hall way and he said....so you was trying to sneak out so I don't see you...LOL...I started laughing and was like no, since I did not go to work yesterday I thought I get to work a little early today....so we chatted for a minuted and I said have a nice day.....I was like I have to nip this in the bud right know...because since I know about these type of men although there are different once...I will not let my guard down around them...I will be so hardheaded and blunt to these men...me calling him is an option. I have no problem meeting them befriending them but to get caught up in that drama is a no no in my book I know now and I will used it to my advantage...LOL...and enjoy doing it....

Well lady's I got the call, of course he called on the cell while I was at work, don't normally check the cell but I did and it was one missed called...I called him back and he was like hi, I said hey, he said how you doing I said fine and then silence......he then said "are you married yet" LOL I started laughing and then said That was funny, I said no I am waiting for you and of course (SILENCE) LOL...he then said well I was just calling to see how you are doing...have a nice weekend and I said Call again if you like...and hung up....the next call is on him...again...I know he was just calling to see if I was still available, he misses me, and I miss him. but I am still not giving in just yet...not until he tells me how he feels about me and we come to some type of conclusion.....

i know i'm accused of being too negative but reading scorpianlady's last message just re-inforced my belief in how they will throw out the line to reel you in everytime they know you're gone. she said it, just checking to see if she's still there. it would've been a kick to answer his "are you married yet" question with YES.
perhaps i'm being too hard on cap men, there are a lot of guys and to be fair to you guys, women too, who do this kind of thing all the time. But between myself and my girlfriends there are just too many coincidences with these cap guys to pass over, I've known many of all ages who do the same things again and again and again.
GED i really wish you luck, truly, but he sounds like a kid to me ha ha, no pun intended, billy goat kids, anyway on top of being a cap he's very very young, and maybe into sowing his wild oats for awhile, a lot of guys and girls at that age are, cap or no cap.
I got a call also, but am not giving it any real thought, it's really meaningless, just the "seeing if I'm still here" just like scorpianlady. Sorry scorpianlady but i keep laughing to myself wishing you had said that you had gotten married.

i meant GEG, sorry...and again not trying to stir anything up but 20-21years old is pretty young, i got married at 20, had three kids and then he left before we were both 30 because he didn't want to be tied down anymore. and as much as i love my kids, i KNOW i didn't have a clue what love and responsibilty were all about at that age, it was all fun and games and now when i see my ex there's no hatred or bitterness, we both know we were just young and stupid. I'm not saying that's everyone, just my own experience. But thats what we're all talking about here right? our own experiences

Right....he would have felt like crap for waiting to long...but the best is yet to come like I said....right know for me this about self gratification. I want to hear him say how much he cares or if he loves me and the decision to commit to him will actually be mines....and to be honest...I probably will commit to him but, at the same time it will take a lot from both of us to agree on what we are will except, expect, from one another.

ScorpionLady- I love your approach; seems to be the same mindset as I am of... hang back, let him run his circles, and don't do anything further until there's answers and some opening from his end.

Ya'll- that is too funny, bc. I have contemplated telling him and still do: that I got engaged on NewYears, getting married in June! That would have to be only if I was definitely through w/ his nonsense and wanted a final 'hurrah' - Definitely couldn't be used as a manipulative tactic bc. it's guaranteed to backfire.

APW- It is basically commitment-phobia and commitment issues that these guys have, which is why I shared that other website address with you.

Where the heck has MyCap been?? And Wheretomylady?

scorpianlady i totally agree with you, the committment thing has got to be a two-way street, AND you can't go begging for it, it has to be given willingly, without coercian. otherwise, how real would it be?

Not to real....I don't expect to see him right know...but I know soon....he had to find some courage to call me to see what is going on....know he needs to find courage to see me and heknows when that happens he needs to start talking...I am loving this...LOL LOL....I will sit back and wait...I deleted his number from my cell because again I will not be calling him...and when he asked me why I have not called him, I will only skip the subject and ask him what's up....LOL this is a long weekend for me althought I have to work the 4 your health and fitness at the convention center which will keep me very busy.....I suspect he might call on sunday.

Hello ladies~

Just when i thought no one was going to stop in today I come back and there are messages!! LOL

Yes APW~ He is a young goat...with alot of emotions Im not sure he does not know what to do with... That is why I will patient. I was 22 when I got married and 20 when I got pregnant... so I know what you are saying and no punt....at all!! LOL

I do know how ever that It is normal for these men young men to behave like this so Im willing to put just a little more effort in it... cause I do love him... However I will not subject myself to this for years...When he comes back if he leaves...that will be that! I will continue to love him and be his friend...way later down the line... But enough will be enough!

its been 13 days since i have seen him or spoke to him and for some reason 6 weeks is in my head....i think he will come back around in six weeks!!

I too deleted his number out of my phone even though it is burned in my head along with his first number from a year ago!! LOL I also took all our pictures out of my phone and off my desk!! He has a new number and I have the number but i put it in a safe spot and have not looked at it since... i dont want it in my brain!! He knows how to reach me when the time is right he has all my numbers and if he left them in his old phone... he knows where I work and live so he can find me!! 😉

thank you all I love hearing it all!!

What's with the deleting numbers ladies? I did the same thing too. It just reassures me about myself picking up the phone and calling him. When his number isn't there, then I have to think about it to dial it and that gives me just enough time to ask myself what the hell I'm doing.

CapGirl, I'm still here. I've just been reading pretty much. I love hearing other peoples insights, it still just floors me how these men are alike. And as someone said on here, it all comes down to these men having commitment-phobic issues.

Well me and my cap are still in, but things have gotten weirder this past week. Last week was fine, but he's distanced himself this week for some reason (which I will not analyze). Finally with this new view i have, I'm patient with him. I will not contact him! I just won't do it. I think it makes me look pushy, too available, etc. I think he's shocked by this too because before I would text/call him and get sh1tty with him about why I haven't heard from him. He did finally call yesterday tho, and before that I hadn't talked to him since Monday. Weird creatures, these guys! Something major just happened to him tho, so he was pretty upset when I talked to him yesterday, so I bet that sends him even more into his 'cave'. I just wish he would understand that I'm here for him and really want to spend more time with him.

mycap~

Im so glad to hear that things are o.k. with you and cap... you sound like you know how to keep your emotions in check, and to undertsand his behavior...sooo important with these bests! he he!!

I miss mine like crazy, even more so now that he moved out of my best friends house ... i have no contact and no clue what he is up to? 😢 (but i know its better this way) its been 13 days....lol and i know this is nothing I have more time to go...but ggggggggeeeeeeessssssuuuuuuusssss it sucks!!! lol

OMG~ His number has been deleted off my phone for months... Overall, in our history of 15 months, it has been OFF my phone more than it has ever been saved/ON in the phonebook! But, yea... I know the damn number by heart. I had even changed my cell number recently a few months back, bc. of how mad and done I was. I ended up giving the new number to him, but now he's afraid to call it, I swear, unless i specifically tell him to call and give him the number AGAIN. Otherwise, it's been IMs. haha--

I'm about to read this new thread posted by this new person, about being TIRED... Gosh, that's how I feel right now, and can so relate. Part of me is so unaffected at this point bc. it's the same cycle played out over and over, and I know that I cannot affect it or change it, no matter what tactic I may try. That's a sign of the commitment-phobic relationship, I'm afraid...

MyCap, you have got it... no need to be available and pushy. I have finally realized this after having been on the 12-week hiatus. I really thought it was going to take the whole bday text msg. to give him an opening to contact me... by him beating me to the punch and "coming after me"- I am feeling much more confident that what I do or don't do is not the real motivator here. I think these guys may plan alot and set it out in their mind when they will contact you and make themselves wait until then. I'm a Cap. and that's what I was doing w/ the whole bday plan. I got myself through all the holidays knowing that mid-January was when I would allow myself to give in. I sense that my Cap. was thinking after the new year, is when he'd "test the waters." I think it makes it easier or more tolerable putting a timeline/deadline out there for yourself, as to when you would reasonably expect to hear from him, or when you will contact him again. It gives you some sense of control.

GEG, yes I do have my emotions in check...I have to with him!! Believe me, at the beginning of this whole thing I didn't have them in check whatsoever, which made matters worse, but I didn't know any better then. I can say I have learned a tremendous amount of things!

CapGirl, ur right what we do or don't do is not the motivator, it's what they have 'planned' so to say. It's when they want to contact us, see us, etc. It sucks, but it's life with these men!

I feel u on the getting tired of it all, the cycle, etc. I think it does come to a point when u finally get so sick of it, that you tell them they either act different or ur out. That's not really the point I'm at now, I'm just kind of stuck in between the "I'll let him do his own thing, and just wait patiently (some days)" It's hard to be patient, some times I just want to pick up that phone and initiate something, but I stop myself. If he wants me, he's got to come get me!

hello ladies~ its nights like this that make it rough.... its cold and raining I miss my baby and what sucks.....Im in for a long wait! he he well just wanted to let it out... hope everyone is doing well!!

hey GEG, how are you? the cold rainy nights do just suck, too much time to THINK, sometimes just wish I could stop the brain.
actually have come to terms with some things myself, and from reading some of the other boards, it doesn't seem to matter what sign someone is, people in relationships or out of as the case may be, go through all sorts of agonizing stuff.We're all just human...and sometimes pain is part of the journey, helps me appreciate the good times even more.
Someone said to me years ago (and it's not a negative thing, it's just reality) that in ANY relationship someone always leaves first, unless you happen to die together. But when you think about it, it's true, someone DOES always leave first, whether by actually walking away, or dying or whatever. Makes it all a little easier to live with, at least for me. I know I've left relationships, whether they be just friends or otherwise, sometimes for big reasons or sometimes just because you grow or move apart, change is constant and changing people is something you do constantly for all kinds of reasons. So GEG just hoping you're ok

hey APW~

yes I made it through another weekend with out my baby...😢 ! its sooo hard missing him so much and trying to stay positive. I have been reading books and keeoing myslef busy but the man is never out of my thoughts. its been 3 weeks since i have seen him, 4 weeks since we were talking 😢 look i sound pathetic he he he!!! Sorry ladies.... this has been the longest that I have gone with out tyring to contact him... but I refuse he needs to call me... after all even though I have his new number I will not use it cause he did not want me to have it... "booger" lol anyhoo

Mycap~ That is Crazy... about the girl and i dont want to be negative by any means but thats weird and I just want you to be careful i dont want to cause doubt... but i also dont want to see you get hurt!! Make sure that he owns up to what he promised... and if you find out that he still talking to that girl I would cut ties... I have read that Capricorns have a hard time letting go of ex's (trying to be nice) causing more problems!! Good luck sweetie and keep us posted!!!

Thanks GEG....o believe me I am being careful. Yes, I know they have a hard time letting go of exes...he still keeps in contact with most of his. Well the ones he was with for a long time. This chick works with him sort of. He's sees her every once in a while. See at first he told me that he didn't get the vibe from her that she wanted more than just to be friends, and that was when he and I were on the outs. He did tell me yesterday that he talked to her after I had left his house that nite and told her how he felt about me, and he said she'd probably never contact him again because she did want more than to be friends with him. If he really wanted to take her up on that offer then I know he wouldn't have contacted me yesterday and talked to me about it. I mean, really I did a crazy thing by showing up at his house while she was there, and he could have easily told me to never contact him again, etc. But I was totally shocked (and still am) that he said it proved to him how much I really cared about him, and that he pretty much realized how much he wanted me. It was one crazy situation. But GEG, I am still keeping everything in check and watching out! I won't be done like that again. If it happens again, that's it. NO turning back EVER.

Good for you sweetie!! Im Glad to hear that!! I hope that things work out with you two!! I love hearing stories about the women who get their cap!!! LOL helps me to be more patient.... The good thing about Brian being so young is that he does not have many ex's...🙂 and the one that he had burned him real bad....so he does not ever want to hear from her again!! He has not had many relationships.... his brother once told carly (my best friend) that all his "relationships" dating etc. have been train wrecks!! I think its cause no one has taken the time to figure out what makes him tick. And would just rather not deal with it... Then along comes me and for some reason I dont give up...! 😉

ahhhh I miss him sooo much!! I knows hes thinking about me too... Probably wondering why i have not called or tried to get the "number" from Carly.

My mom and I were just talking about the Cap. She gets so exasperated, just hearing his antics. She now calls him "dikhead". haha! We just laugh, bc. there's nothing to say that hasn't already been said.

GEG~~ try to set V-day (Valentine's) out in your mind, as to when you might expect to hear from him, or when you might allow yourself to contact him. That will keep you going with a goal in mind.

Yeah whenever me and my cap were on the outs I loved hearing stories about women who end up with their caps too and it gave me hope. I don't ever give up easily on something that i want. I do everything I can to get it, that way if I don't get it, then I can at least say that I gave it all I could. Just keep ur head up GEG, and hopefully u will get a good outcome. Im sure he is thinking about u.

Aww thank you... you girls are so sweet... thank you! I have a goal it was six weeks.. i dont knwo but it came to me... i looked on the calendar and im expecting to hear from him around the 15th of Feb. and even if i dont.... im not going to call... I dont know there is something about this time that he needs to contact me.. i have always... gotten a hold of him...and if in fact we are meant to be then he will come to me. I need that...i need to know that i meant enough to him for him to come to me!! And i will be here with open arms! I have my daughters b-day on the 13th so im hoping that will keep my mind off the lovers holiday....😢 ... i have been told alot latley to follow my heart and my heart says he will be back... but its the self doubt and the wanting it right now that makes things rough!! PATIENCE lol!!


So you really think hes thinking about me? If he is he is probably thinking... i better wait until i am 100% for sure and i can hear him saying(third times a charm)!! lol 😉

the good thing is that if infact he comes back in FEb... my divore will be final and that has always bothered him.

I miss my baby

I know you miss him GEG, I've been there. U know what tho? Cappies take a while to think about things. For example, my cappie told me yesterday that when it comes to decisions, especially decisions regarding relationships and serious matters, that he takes a while to think about them to make sure it's what he thinks he truly wants and should do. So ur cappie could be using all this time to make sure that this is what he wants because he doesn't want to hurt you. See if he contacted you today, started things up again with you without really knowing for sure it's what he wanted then he would be doing the disappearing act again and I don't believe they like doing that. So this is why he's taking this time, to make sure that he doesn't hurt u again.

I was waiting for mine to contact me also, and he did, but I think if he hadn't I would have eventually gave in and contacted him, especially on his bday. They like it when we contact them too, and I've learned that sometimes that's what they are waiting for, for us to contact them to prove to them how much we care. Even tho in reality it shouldn't be that way, they should be the ones to contact us, since afterall they are the ones that disappear.

But if it's truly meant to be, it will work out for u one way or another.

yes you are sooo right!! I know that about mine too... ALso he just turned 21 sooo i knows he doing the whole "party bit" but that will wear off and then he will have time to think about how he is alone and how he misses me. IM the only one that has ever made him feel the way he did when he was with me... he told me that. SO i know he will miss me.... I have always made the contact given him plenty of time and when my heart could not take it any longer i woudl make contact... I tried on his Birthday... i left him the message but he did not answer or return my call... I know though by his actions that he is frustrated with his feelings... and since he asked Carly not to give me his new number that tells me not to contact him... he needs to do it when he feel it is time...and he will its just a matter of the unknown...lol WHEN!!! he he!! I know he has to have thought about me it just makes me feel better when I have friends like you to confirm this...So as much as i know he would probably like for me to contact him he made the choice to be stubborn and request that of carly so i will not cross the line.... and he KNOWS how much I love him...he knows and thats why he's scared.. he knows that I want to spend the rest of my life with him we have talked about it. I have also given him plenty or cards and letters and littel notes here and there and a love sick c.d. lol i have also showed him over over with my actions some things that no none has ever done for him...he knows!!! But there is one thing i wont due and thats to contact him when he has made it clear that he is not ready. Nor will i show up where i think he may be... I have plans to have a full weekend this weekend and when asked what i wanted to do or what clubs i want to do to I chose the new one the one i know he will not go to !!! : ) it will only hurt me to run into him!!! So he has to be the one this time... and if my heart is right wich i think it is he will be back....... time!! LOL


you are so awesome thank you!!

lol look at Brians horoscope~
Capricorn (December 22-January 19)-
Finding your way back into someone?s heart is a difficult journey. Before you can get any closer to making this dream come true, you must learn how to truly listen when the other person is talking.

His horoscope is crazy!! Right on the dot!!

He will be back. Most do go back. But only after they think and get past the whole scared bit.

One thing I want to share with you...while me and my cap were talking yesterday he mentioned one thing he likes about me. He said that I'm different from any other girl because I don't 'suck' up to him...I asked what he meant. He said that I don't tell him how wonderful and great he is all the time, and also that I don't shower him with gifts, roses, etc. He said he hates those things. I've only bought him one thing during this whole 8 mos and that was a christmas present and we weren't even together at the time. I mailed it to him. He said that he can see that I'm not trying to buy his love. ONe girl he dated he said left him a rose on his vehicle every morning for like 2 wks, and finally he told himself that this chick had to go...lol! That's just me tho, I don't believe in buying things to win them over. I'm just myself, and he loves it!

I don't want to jinx myself, but I finally have him now. Or at least for the moment and it makes me so happy.

But GEG, him just turning 21, you will have to be patient with that. He needs to get that all out of his system and have fun, and when it's all out, he will realize how much he truly wants u. It's just a matter of time, but it might take a while, so u will have to hang in there. I know it's hard, but u have us here tho to help u thru it, and I know u can get thru it! And speaking from experience, it's worth the wait.

I have never felt this way about someone in my life, someone whom I always want to be with, love just everything about them, even their flaws! I knew that I couldn't give up and let him go. I didn't give up, and finally I'm hopefully getting my dream to come true. And it was so worth it. And I know it will be for u also!

These tidbits are truly valuable, MyCap. Keep 'em coming!! hehe I couldn't imagine buying a GUY's love!? I suppose when I know there's already a relationship, I can be pretty generous but not in the beginning dating stage.

I'm pretty sure my Cap. thought I might also call today/tonight for his bday... after getting the card. He's going to realize though now that with the card, I had lodged the ball back into his court. If we talk again, I feel like making an agreement that I won't talk about dating if he doesn't talk about sex! ha!

MyCap~ have we talked about what your and his other planets are in? Moon/Mars/Venus? I'm curious...

Hey capgirl I'm sharing all the info that I can possibly share! I'm learning more each day and then sharing it with u guys! I will let u know everything.

No I don't think we've talked about Moon/Mars/Venus....I'm curious also, what info u need?