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In my opinion which stems from observation and experience, there are some crucial things to know about 'The Goat'.

[Here's to having fun with this one and adding to the list, constructively, of course 8D ]

1. It is often true that Capricorn is covered in a thick armor that is renewed with each and every encounter with you...at least while you are being 'scoped out'. [AKA, the Scoping Phase]

2. The 'vulnerable ways' about Capricorn relate to the rational and logical allowances which Capricorn tolerates within the tough outer armor...namely the 'joints' which enables Capricorn to be flexible. [Really not about 'sensitive knees and elbows' like we typically read about.]

3. As a person of interest [POI] within Capricorn's 'scope', the gradual exposure of said joints is a signal of trust-building.

4. As a POI, abusing the exposed joints will induce Capricorn's withdrawal.

5. As a POI, fortifying the exposed joints will induce further exposure of other joints.

6. Betrayal of Capricorn's trust can be as simple as exposing those sacred joints to others who have not been vetted.

7. In other words, if for instance Capricorn tells you something in private, assume it is to be kept private. Broadcasting such information at a dinner party will cost you irretrievable points and WILL erode trust in you if Capricorn already trusts you. If Capricorn does not exactly trust you yet, it will be decided that you cannot be trusted.

8. Capricorn likes freedom and also likes it if you enjoy yours as well. However, on areas where you have agreed to commit on 'joint' effort, Capricorn expects no slacking on duty.

9. If Capricorn feels bound to continually pick up your slack, the seed of resentment will root and grow.

10. When resentment sets in, Capricorn will also withdraw any invested trust...and do it as cleanly as going to a bank and withdrawing all funds from a trust.

11. Capricorn will not be 'emotional' with you about any of this. You may try to appeal to 'feelings' and wonder how Capricorn can be so cold about it but all you'll get is a penetrating stare and an announcement that it's over.

12. Capricorn values relevant information. Communication with Capricorn should fall into specific categories: info about you for future application, info about a problem you want help with, or info about something Capricorn has specifically requested. Anything else beyond that are considered to be trivial.


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13. Capricorn loathes regret for 2 reasons: it highlights a moment of poor judgement and it is a waste of time after the fact especially if the situation cannot be properly amended.

14. Capricorn is cautious of any POI. Especially when they fail simple trust-building tests....And there will be plenty.

15. As stated, Capricorn's idea of trust has a lot to do with how you handle privacy and the need for privacy.

16. Capricorn can smell your games from miles away....and will beat you at your own games.

17. Capricorn's patience is like a rope. You can choose to hang yourself with it or tie yourself to a bed and wait to be discovered at the right time.

18. Capricorn's cool demeanor is akin to being too close to a fire. If you stand still eventually you too will be on fire. If you prance around the fire a whole lot you eventually likely, trip and fall into the fire. The main factor is your own appetite for shock and surprise.

19. When Capricorns stares at you, the accompanying thought likely involves how your neurons are firing or if you're getting enough oxygen.

20. Between the sheets tell Capricorns not what you think they want to hear but the primal truth of how you feel. This maintains interest and feeds curiosity, and you do not even have to think about it.

21. Capricorns tend to be homebodies for 2 reasons: that's where they most comfortable, and they won't shell out hard-earned money to do things they could do comfortably at home, in some other location. Now, if the activity involved some extraordinary or physical thrill [nature-hike, sporting, roller coasters etc], then they'd be up for it. But food, movies and gambling? Pass on that. Or do it at home with close pals for less expense.

22. Give Capricorns useful gifts and expect the same in return. Never force a gift on Capricorn, especially when they have no practical application for it, or worse if they know you're giving it for purely sentimental reasons. That's just clutter for the future.


23. Remind Capricorn to take deep breaths every now and then. They'll look at you oddly but will be grateful because breathing is meditatively relaxing and having that sense about you will let them know you do care. More so than saying 'I love you'...and expecting a song in return.


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24. Don't ask Capricorn for advice if you do not intend to follow. You will have engaged their precious time in stating your problem and they'll have engaged more of their time in coming up with a viable solution and then you'll waste more time to inform them that you have not followed through on their advice. How much more insubordination can you muster in dealing with Capricorns who are natural leaders? 3 strikes and you're out!

25. As a POI, Capricorn sees you in a bubble and observes. Not for judgement, but for certainty. You have no choice but to be yourself because they can sense insincerity and will immediately shut down. So no need for eggshell marathons. Really.

26. You can tell most Capricorns anything, truly. But if they don't feel that level of comfort with you reciprocally, they'll usually spend most of the time listening to you. And they're such great listeners!

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More later, or feel free to chime in. Now I want some chamomile tisane 8D

Escuxe all seplinlg erorrs 'cause tihs goat anit perfect. 8D😆8D
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Posted by ShahBano
what if you are not even aware of the fact that you are a potential POI for them and you are busy and happy with your own life? would they still keep on scooping and observing you?



LOL! Capricorns are classy, not creepy [no hidden cams and spyware]. Being in the scope of a Capricorn is akin to having the hot red dot of a sniper rifle dancing on you. However, the intensity technically depends of the curiosity meter. If the POI scores high on the meter, the focus is laser-like. If the POI scores low on the meter, the focus is more like flash-light. The funny thing is, the POI can't exactly do much to influence the curiosity meter [beyond being themselves anyway].

But let's say the initial score is low, guess what Capricorn does? Research! They ask questions, dig for details [such as from people who know the POI], and take a closer look to be sure of that score. When they've exhausted all resources but can't elevate the score on the curiosity meter, then they move on, but still keep the POI floating in a mental bubble that gets filled with any new details. However they won't directly approach, at least not usually.

But if the initial score on the curiosity meter is high for a POI, Capricorn will practically steamroll everything in the way to get to the source, i.e the POI and satisfy the curiosity. But as they do take their sweet time, it might feel like forever and a day to the POI. For Capricorn though, they'll be zoomed-in with a laser instead of across the field with a flashlight.

So if POI is unaware of status as POI, then chances are, there's a low score on the curiosity meter and Capricorn is busy working hard and trying to be certain about that score. For a POI with high curiosity score, it's like Capricorn is just suddenly in the picture. 😉
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i meant to ask that as capricorn are supposed to be very cautious and do no proceed when uncertain, so would they waste their time on observing a person who has shown no interest in them particularly , not to play games just actually unaware that she could be of much interest to the capricorn male. i heard that they needed to be coaxed or lured into a relationship, like aquarius men they neither want nor need a romantic partner much.though guaranteed they are more reliable,stable and loyal.
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Posted by ShahBano
i meant to ask that as capricorn are supposed to be very cautious and do no proceed when uncertain, so would they waste their time on observing a person who has shown no interest in them particularly , not to play games just actually unaware that she could be of much interest to the capricorn male. i heard that they needed to be coaxed or lured into a relationship, like aquarius men they neither want nor need a romantic partner much.though guaranteed they are more reliable,stable and loyal.



Understood. A POI who is not interested in the Capricorn will still get some attention for the simple reason that Capricorns are very good at analyzing and they do the best analysis when the subject isn't directly looking back at them.

It depends on how curious the Capricorn is, and it is never a waste of time because Capricorns enjoy watching and observing regardless of perceived interested toward them.

That said, say if two people are staring at each other, eyes locked...the sensation is quite intense [and usually too intense when both are complete strangers to each other]. If one is just taking quick glances and the other is completely oblivious, then the whole thing is fairly mild. Capricorn would prefer to take many quick glances as opposed to the long stare [especially in the scope phase].

Long stares are often reserved for looking into the future. 😉

If they get no clear hints to signal interest, they may still be genuinely curious but won't likely make further approach on the romantic plane. They may still approach on a platonic plane if they are curious enough on their own. That's why they mostly like to start out as friends, especially when Aquarius really runs amok in the charts. lol.

As for coaxing and luring [snag a goat!], that has more to do with Capricorns really enjoying their own company so much that there has to be a good enough reason [or several] to get deeply involved with someone else. It's rarely on a whim.
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i believe capricorns are not as cool and calculating as they like to pose. they are as much likely to fall in love as any other man is. my father did,despite the difference of religion,nationality and age, he did fall in love with my mother, enjoyed watching her from distance, proposed to her within 3 months of their first meeting- without even formally dating her , married her, pampered and spoiled her rotten (in a lovely way)stayed loyal to her and most important of all kept on loving her all through the 13 yrs of their marriage till the day she died of throat cancer.
No Mr.Goat you are not as business minded and cold blooded as you men want to appear;you people are capable of astounding passion and devotion.
by the way my father's natal chart did not have any fire in it, except for his mercury which was in Leo. he was all earth,some air and some water.
a gorgeous cap man still in love with his beautiful but dead wife.
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Posted by ShahBano
let's suppose, for the debate'sake,that a capricorn man enjoys just being around a girl even when she is not talking directly to him,and interacting with other people,but he still seems to be enjoying looking at her and listening to her general chit chat,does it mean that girl is still likely to be a Potential POI



Lol, the keyword here is 'potential'. She would most definitely be a POI in as much as he enjoys her company, or likes being around her and taking in details about her. The type of interest he has with her depends on how she strikes his curiosity. 🙂
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Posted by ElusiveSoul
@ Mojojojo....just for a debate's sake again...I met a 30 year old Cap online three days ago who lives on the opposite side of the country. We exchanged few e-mails and in his last e-mail he stated how intrigued he is by me, expressing his desire of getting to know me better consequently throwing a ball in my court by giving out his phone number! *Ugghh* O_o ( what is woman to do here lol)

My question is....would that be a laser-like or flashlight type of interest/curiosity? What a question huh 😛

Just curious how that would translate form a Cap male's perspective



That is an awesome question, indeed! LOL.

Speaking from my own experience, this type of situation is doubly complicated but that's not necessarily a bad thing. The curiosity meter would have to be mid-level to high-level for the Capricorn to spell out his interest as he has done. However, since this interaction you describe is still virtual i.e email [as of yet], I would peg the intensity as somewhere between flash-light and laser. Something like spotlight. lol. 😉

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Posted by ShahBano
i believe capricorns are not as cool and calculating as they like to pose. they are as much likely to fall in love as any other man is. my father did,despite the difference of religion,nationality and age, he did fall in love with my mother, enjoyed watching her from distance, proposed to her within 3 months of their first meeting- without even formally dating her , married her, pampered and spoiled her rotten (in a lovely way)stayed loyal to her and most important of all kept on loving her all through the 13 yrs of their marriage till the day she died of throat cancer.
No Mr.Goat you are not as business minded and cold blooded as you men want to appear;you people are capable of astounding passion and devotion.

by the way my father's natal chart did not have any fire in it, except for his mercury which was in Leo. he was all earth,some air and some water.
a gorgeous cap man still in love with his beautiful but dead wife.



Aww this is one of the most BEAUTIFUL love stories< i've ever heard. Gives me hope for my Cap. Only his moon is in Leo.
I really believe that underneath it all the Cap is the most passionate,and loyally devoted signs.
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I met my Cap when he purchased the home next door from a foreclosure. The first few weeks I did not pay him any attention but when we initially met there was a strong mental connection, and he made some statement that I knew that he was watching me for awile. I caught him staring at me several times as I was outside doing yard work, playing with my dog, or just coming in from work. At times I felt uncomfortable wondering was he a psycho because he watched me so intensely but then again I felt the passion that he had for me. We would talk for hours exchanging information. I know that he was evaluating me. He was watching how I was with my children and if I was the type of lady that hung out late partying. He watched as I communicated with neighbors especially other men..lol As a POI I was definitely on a high scale.
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Posted by aries415
I met my Cap when he purchased the home next door from a foreclosure. The first few weeks I did not pay him any attention but when we initially met there was a strong mental connection, and he made some statement that I knew that he was watching me for awile. I caught him staring at me several times as I was outside doing yard work, playing with my dog, or just coming in from work. At times I felt uncomfortable wondering was he a psycho because he watched me so intensely but then again I felt the passion that he had for me. We would talk for hours exchanging information. I know that he was evaluating me. He was watching how I was with my children and if I was the type of lady that hung out late partying. He watched as I communicated with neighbors especially other men..lol As a POI I was definitely on a high scale.



There ya go...makes total sense. 😉
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I met my Cap on a dating site, after my first long message he asked me "Would it be okay if i gave you my number" I gave him mine, and the next day after he got off work he called me. We talked and texted non stop for three days having a ton in common. We than met, he was REAL quiet, he said he would call me tommarow, Than didnt, till the following day he texted me asking what i was doing.. I said "I am gonna go look at a car" he said "By yourself?" i said "Yes" he said "Would you like me to come with you?" i said "Only if you want to" and he said "If i didnt want to i wouldnt of asked" So we went and looked at it and i drove it, than i told him to drive it, and he looked at it and said "You wanna buy it?" i said "Yea!" than he said "Good thing i came with you, the tranny on this is about to go out!" LOL .. I Drove him home (Since i was in the car when he texted i just picked him up) He said Well, text you later? I said, Sure! ..He sat quietly with his hand on the door for a minute, felt like forever.. we kept staring at each other and finally isaid to myself, screw it,and kissed him. OH MY GOD, Most passionate kiss EVER! I stopped, than he stared at me and grabbed me for a kiss. Ever since than, i couldnt get rid of him, the next day he texted me, and texted me. That night we went out and he introduced me as his girlfriend, I said "I dont remember you asing me to be yours" he said "That was self explanatory last night in the car" LOL... I love his silly butt!!!! Been nothing but love and a good thing ever since! 😉
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Posted by CancerianGoddess
I met my Cap on a dating site, after my first long message he asked me "Would it be okay if i gave you my number" I gave him mine, and the next day after he got off work he called me. We talked and texted non stop for three days having a ton in common. We than met, he was REAL quiet, he said he would call me tommarow, Than didnt, till the following day he texted me asking what i was doing.. I said "I am gonna go look at a car" he said "By yourself?" i said "Yes" he said "Would you like me to come with you?" i said "Only if you want to" and he said "If i didnt want to i wouldnt of asked" So we went and looked at it and i drove it, than i told him to drive it, and he looked at it and said "You wanna buy it?" i said "Yea!" than he said "Good thing i came with you, the tranny on this is about to go out!" LOL .. I Drove him home (Since i was in the car when he texted i just picked him up) He said Well, text you later? I said, Sure! ..He sat quietly with his hand on the door for a minute, felt like forever.. we kept staring at each other and finally isaid to myself, screw it,and kissed him. OH MY GOD, Most passionate kiss EVER! I stopped, than he stared at me and grabbed me for a kiss. Ever since than, i couldnt get rid of him, the next day he texted me, and texted me. That night we went out and he introduced me as his girlfriend, I said "I dont remember you asing me to be yours" he said "That was self explanatory last night in the car" LOL... I love his silly butt!!!! Been nothing but love and a good thing ever since! 😉



Another success story. 😉 Thank you for sharing 🙂
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Yeah, I agree with you on this Capguy.

In addition to the different concept of time, Capricorn also tends to be very interested in why things 'tick', more so than the 'ticking' sound.

I also agree with the second part as well. It's not always about money and career. Those things are important only when there's a 'forward moving' plan to achieve goals in those areas. I'm also an artist and the kinds of conversations I enjoy most have to do with things like ...wait for it... physics [applied and theoretical], natural sciences, higher consciousness, energy and expanding the mind....not necessarily money and work. My 'work' generally entails personal development in the physical, emotional, spiritual and mental sense. And money for me is a tool.

I like to have many kinds of tools to deal with different kinds of work. And sometimes money is inefficient for a given task. If I'm inspired to write a song, 'money' can be useful for materials and recording equipment, but it won't write the song. If I need to perform my regular physical exercise to maintain good health, having a suitcase full of money won't be useful in doing push-ups and pull-ups. I can't pay someone else to exercise for me. If I need to meditate on the purpose of life and expand my mind, all I need is a quite space with no distractions. Money can buy a book, but it won't do anything to help me understand it, I still have to process all the details for myself.

Now, when it comes to plans for a energy-efficient farm for self-sustenance, then money can be useful for specific equipment [that I don't want to build entirely from scratch, or I need within specific time frame] and labor division.

So generally, for me, money has a place, it's just not everywhere in my mind. Money is a tool to facilitate some types of transactions in a specific way. And as for being a slave to a career, that also does not work for me. I like my freedom to be inspired and expressive with my mind. So that boring conformist office job that sucks the day light out of me, will never get my application or time.

I happily spend much of my time doing research, reading, learning and tinkering...thus slowly, and over time becoming expert in a variety of fields that I'm actually interested in. Then, I just work as a consultant. 😉 The woman who interrupts that schedule must be very special...and will be thoroughly vetted to make sure that she is. 😉
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The thing is that sometimes in social situations I will be quiet and just observe because most people want to talk about mundane things like this celebrity or that TV show or some political scandal or worse...sports [as spectators, not players. I'd rather play than watch sports]. I can do that for about 5-minutes before I get bored. How many people want to talk about the vast amount of possibility that is expressed and potential in the universe....or even just the idea of expanding the mind to the size of the universe...or how about something we all know of like gravity...or lucid dreaming...or deja-vu mystery...the intricacies of a snowflake?....[**crickets**] anyone? 0_o....So I'll just be quiet and watch...or find more interesting/thoughtful people...or play a song in my head.

90% of the time, I have music in my head. lol. People think I'm taking to myself, but I'm usually singing to myself. 😉 If it's intense enough I might break into a dance, but that rarely happens in public. lol.


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Posted by WoundedLeo

*Reads what you'vre written with great interest and then raises hand shyly*

I can partake in mundain discussions quite well, but it will not be a mundane person who will catch and maintain my attention and interest. I like people, both men and women, who can go beyond this sorry little world we live in and discuss things on a much higher plane...and no I'm not high :-). The more intellectual and intense the discussion, the more I'll enjoy it. This includes but is not limited to topics such as physics, chemistry, psychology, philosophy, music, and so forth...



Yes. Yes. Yes. Absolutely 😉 That's certainly a connection worthy of establishment.

I mean, I find it amazing that [briefly speaking, mathematically] there's an infinite distance between '0' and '1'...yet at some point, a decision has to be made the one is no longer in '0', but has transitioned to '1'.

I also find it interesting that humans and many other organisms have evolved to be interacting with the universe as a type fractal awareness [universal consciousness, and into self-consciousness] such that for instance, humans with so-called '5-senses' tap into the energies that's abundant in the environment, yet, those senses only get a sliver of what's there to be had....lol, there is so much more. And I find it like a personal mission of discovery to find out what's more to be experienced, and to develop other senses. Hence why I love sciences...even the ones with magical aspects.

So simple things take on greater meaning. Cooking at home is more than controlling the ingredients and having a healthy meal...it's chemistry. A game of billiards, is more than hanging with the gang and drinking rich dark beer...it's a study in physics. lol. Ah the little wonder joys. 😉
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Posted by Chance11
good stuff, mojo..probably the most accurate info about cap inner workings that i've read on this site especially in the area of dispelling surface myths. caps aren't boring..we just don't entertain superficiality, insincerity, or shallow small talk..we like to get to the essence because that's where true wisdom and knowledge is found.

the money thing is one of the biggest misconceptions. it's just a tool for freedom..to travel..to do what you want..and a means to express yourself in an area of interest. also, my family and a lot of my friends are very poor and when straits are dire, assistance is unconditional.

and ladies, be patient with your caps..it takes a little longer to build something that lasts forever



Amen, Chance 😉 I couldn't agree more.

Another misconception is the 'caps like structure and rules' bullsnizzle. Caps like reasonable structure and rules. If it doesn't make sense, then it's broken...lol...and will need fixing. 😉
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I have quite a lot of cap in my chart and I can identify with a lot of things said on here. I'm a great observer - even when young I've always liked being in the background and watching from a distance. I think I am a good judge of character when it comes to people and by observing I can form a 'profile' of that person. I am a homebody, love being at home! There's nothing like chilling in your own domain. But as a Sag, there are times when I feel hemmed in and I need to get out and about.

I've been with my aqua for some time and I've been quietly observing him...thing with the cap is we quietly observe, I do anyway. We really listen to what is said and wait to see if you back it up with actions, and over time we build up like a portfolio of you mentally. If it's good, I allow more time to show more, and I let down a small wall of many in return.

You have to be patient with us caps: we are the quality-rather-than-quantity types. I can count the number of proper friends I have on one hand who I feel are genuine, who have really been there for me. I don't like to rush things, especially relationships and we like support, patience and stedy progress. Over time, you'll discover our mad/funny quirks. My aqua is great because he is as real and he's told me I'm the most down-to-earth girl he knows. Nothing shocks us either, you can really bare all with a cap...I love real-life talk!


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Posted by CancerianGoddess
jdugan, how involved is he with his gf? Do they live together? Have kids? Or does she have kids and him play dad? consider themself a family? Those are factors to consider before i can answer



None of the above, CG. No kids, I think they may move in, I'm not sure. He tells me this all the time, but in a condescending way to get a rise out of me. He's admitted to telling me things just to see how I react. However, he's moved in with every girlfriend he's ever had.
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Posted by CancerianGoddess
If he is focusing on you, he needs to crap or get off the pot.. its not fair to the other party that he is doing this, emotionally or mentally. Honestly if he can be that way with her,what makes you think he wont do the same to you? Once a flake or a cheater, always one,.. trust me.



A few years ago, when we pursued one another, I told him I disappeared because of that reason. I told him I didn't want to risk being in that position and he went speechless and went on to confirm to me that he hasn't cheated on every girl he's been with and there's some women that he doesn't want to hurt or care for.
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Posted by capcsw
I love this. Suddenly love being a Capricorn. I swore I WASN'T one after reading our general description and characteristics. Though I vary from some of you...I am not extremely intelligent about high level deeper meaning of the universe and physics and science. I am extremely versed in matters of the heart. People, human suffering, complex relationships...my ears perk up. I HATE to talk about myself though, lets keep it to you.
I never realized how I did the laser beam with POI until you said it. Looking back I always have. So interesting. Please post more, more, more.
I married a LEO. We dated for years. He decided on me and instead of sweeping me off my feet (eventually he did) he decided on me, scooped me up and dragged me along as I tried to catch my breath the entire time. I couldnt get out, couldnt even observe him, scope him out, test him, I was in his grasp like it or not, and I mean that in a good way, he just loved me and that was it and I almost didnt have a choice in the matter. I definately finally fell in love but I had to do my laser beam testing while in the middle of the hurricane, not from a distance and slowly which is what I would have preferred. I didnt have time to be in my private world and deep thoughts is all. But hey, the love came, the trust grew, and I swear I didnt know until about 5-6 years in he was the love of my life. LOL I am not sure my story has significance in the thread but thought I'd share.

THANK you again for this thread its awesome.



You're very welcome Capcsw.

I'm glad you can relate. Thank you for sharing 🙂
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Posted by jdugan

My questions is this: can this cap still be scoping me out for certainty before any other moves? I know most caps won't be daunt dead having made a wrong decision and so stubborn, they'll stay dormant because of that very reason. I don't know.



From what you've posted and what I can gather, technically you both have invested at least a decade into this 'relationship'. He seems unable to decide what he wants, or at least take decisive action with the other woman. And as far as scoping you out, he's likely zooming in at this point and approaching faster. Luckily there are no kids, embedded property or deep entanglements involved. If you want him [as more than a friend], you probably will need to make a clear stand on what it is you will tolerate and for how long. Not an ultimatum per say, but simply, an escape from the limbo- style web that's spinning in your direction.

Good luck 🙂
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sorry to interrupt

4. As a POI, abusing the exposed joints will induce Capricorn's withdrawal.

5. As a POI, fortifying the exposed joints will induce further exposure of other joints.

please please explain a little further # 4 and 5


16. Capricorn can smell your games from miles away....and will beat you at your own games.
crap! I know *grumble* Im a good player too.

I havent read past the first page mojo but I am going to.


*steps out of inbetween current posts quietly *thanks*
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Why do Capricorns seem to be so consistently hot/cold with regards to their behaviour? Things have been going fine with my friend, but I can't understand why every so often she doesn't get back to emails or gives short answers. I myself need to get better at just letting go with regards to some people wanting more privacy/space so that could be my own issue. I wish I could understand better.
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mojojojo
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Posted by luvnacap
sorry to interrupt

please please explain a little further # 4 and 5

*steps out of inbetween current posts quietly *thanks*



You're welcome 🙂

Re: #4 & #5
Perhaps I can break it down a bit more...

2. The 'vulnerable ways' about Capricorn relate to the rational and logical allowances which Capricorn tolerates within the tough outer armor...namely the 'joints' which enables Capricorn to be flexible. [Really not about 'sensitive knees and elbows' like we typically read about.]

-->'Joints' can stand as a metaphor for logical allowances that may seem irrational in isolated examination, but make total sense when considered as part of a whole.

3. As a person of interest [POI] within Capricorn's 'scope', the gradual exposure of said joints is a signal of trust-building.

-->Deliberately allowing a POI to be privy to those 'joints/logical allowances' is the foundation of trust.

4. As a POI, abusing the exposed joints will induce Capricorn's withdrawal.

-->For example: Capricorn shows POI a scab, and POI rips it off...smiling the entire time cuz it's after all, 'just a scab'. == not cool.

5. As a POI, fortifying the exposed joints will induce further exposure of other joints.

-->For example: Same as above, except instead of ripping and smiling, POI says something like 'That thing needs fresh air...or ointment.' or 'Eww...gross...does it hurt?' or 'Ooh...that will leave a gnarly scar.' Or whatever, so long as it's not making it worse.

Note: Not all 'joints' are 'scabs'. Just using that as an example.


6. Betrayal of Capricorn's trust can be as simple as exposing those sacred joints to others who have not been vetted.

-->So if the content of shared moments becomes fodder for conversation between mutual acquaintances who do not have the same trustworthy status that POI holds, then it's potentially an issue.

7. In other words, if for instance Capricorn tells you something in private, assume it is to be kept private. Broadcasting such information at a dinner party will cost you irretrievable points and WILL erode trust in you if Capricorn already trusts you. If Capricorn does not exactly trust you yet, it will be decided that you cannot be trusted.

-->Hence, privacy is a big deal. In terms of 'security' it's the difference between a birdcage and a bank vault. 😉

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To explain logical allowance, I'll use a personal example.

So, I have my ways. In particular I like my space. Intrusions into my space tend to come off as serious violations. Sometimes, that makes me a bit controlling [i.e. of myself].

In how I relate to the world however, the hierarchy goes top-down spirit->mind->body->house->larger environment. The first 3 elements are entirely personal and are shared only with the worthy. The house element is the outward manifestation of the first 3 which then pours out to the larger environment.

So...long story short for now, there are meticulous steps involved in bringing someone else in from the larger environment into the house, then into the personal trinity. Thus, short of sainthood, I like a clean house, and I especially like clean bedrooms, bathrooms/lavatories and kitchens. Work-spaces can get as filthy as needed provided that they're organized in some way. lol. 🙂

So in sharing those spaces with another person, there are practical rules like:
1. No bathroom caddies ever - cuz they're horrendous to clean. Instead, we can have actual waterproof cabinets installed.
2. Nothing hanging on the shower wall or sitting on the tub - cuz they leave nasty rings and are a pain in the neck.
3. No fancy rugs in the bathroom - cuz they stink...[I can tolerate a folded microfiber towel dedicated to that purpose].
4. No spitting all over the faucet while brushing teeth...[that's why we'll need that oversize sink/basin installed].
5. Yes dear, we're really going to separate the toilet/commode from the bath/shower amenities.
6. Moving out of the bathroom, No corner-placed furniture...I like to see all the corners in a room. etc.

😉

If I lived a nomadic life, those things would certainly not matter, but when plans arrive to settle somewhere 'house-y', then they become important and very specific.

So if I were in a relationship with someone, we'd likely need to have two separate bathrooms if the mode of operation cannot be adhered to. Bedrooms are more flexible so long as there are no contagious diseases or micro-pests involved.

So here, the logical allowance is that I'm sometimes a 'neat freak'. My partner in love would have to be able to deal with that without inspiring too much friction.

Random note: Oddly enough, I do like the idea of outdoor showers in the sunlight. 😛 😄

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mojojojo
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Posted by Lyre84
Why do Capricorns seem to be so consistently hot/cold with regards to their behaviour? Things have been going fine with my friend, but I can't understand why every so often she doesn't get back to emails or gives short answers. I myself need to get better at just letting go with regards to some people wanting more privacy/space so that could be my own issue. I wish I could understand better.



Ah the ol' Fire/Ice combo. I like to think of it as waves along a beach...cannot pin them to the sands. They come and go, but the ocean at large actually never leaves...at least not without major catastrophe. To think that it does requires a very tiny-scale perspective that would render the coming and going as really dramatic events. The hot/cold thing really is autopilot behavior and doesn't happen with any clear intention like 'ok, time to be hot,' and then after a while 'ok, time to be cool.'

But that's not to say that it can't be remedied with a communication patch. Just mention it to the Capricorn involved and there might be improvement. I know for me personally, no amount of nagging [after the fact] will change anything. What brings me around is usually, a simple 'reach out' request. If someone who hasn't heard from me in a while makes it plain that they'd like for me to contact them, then I will. But if instead they go on and on ranting about how I disappeared, then I sigh and continue whatever I was working on.

The times when I go 'awol' as my friends like to say, is never about anyone else, it's like meditation and sometimes is. And it's not planned, so I can't exactly give prior notice to anyone and I can't invite an 'awol buddy'.

I can't be bothered when I'm in my headspace, and in dealing with other people, I usually have no interest in digging and prodding unless I'm indeed specifically curious, and even then I go about it in a non-intrusive way. If someone wants to share their inner-most goo with me, 98.9% of the time I feel as though I'm receptive to such exchange. But making demands about my inner-most goo is typically just annoying.

Wrong way: What are you thinking/what's on your mind?
Why it's wrong: It's vague and it might be better to ask 'what are you NOT thinking'.

Right way: What do you think about xyz?
Why it's right: It's specific and efficient with respect to 'xyz'. 🙂
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mojojojo
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[Arrrgh!!! It's a zombie!!!].....0_o....Well, I suppose it's time to cue in the tumbleweeds and toe-tag this thread.

But not without the quick PSA: Part 2 of this thread can be found via this link [http://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/capricorn/How-To-Get-Your-Goat-Interactive-DIY-&#37; 5BFun% 5D-Part-2-3238937.asp].

Many thanks to everyone for your participation and support. Welcome to part 2! 🙂
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jdugan
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Helpppp.


I met up with a Cap male -- who initiated texts and replies instantaneously for the whole week leading up to the "date," we'll call it -- paid for everything, walked me to my Jeep, laughed so much (which isn't easy for a CAP!) etc. True gentleman. When I drove off I wanted him to know I appreciated everything, so I sent him a message saying so. He told me no thanks was needed and then to text him when I got home. I asked him if I appeared that delicate (I'm an Aries!) and he said no, but that he wanted to make sure I got home safe. We text for three hours afterwards, AM hours at that point, and it was during the week - afterwards, he asked if I wanted to meet up again, and I said yes.

Well, me being an ARIES, and like the fire sign we are- we like to keep stoking or we fizzle, and that's not good. So, the next morning, I woke up to a message and continued the back and forth through the whole day. I asked if he wanted to hang out that night - he said a nap was in order and maybe afterwards. It didn't happen because he dozed off and alerted me of this hours later and being apologetic.

I've stayed the same way as I was before we met up - but, he's changed. When he texts me, it's always him initiating, as of now, because I deleted his number so I don't have the option to. He send me messages about things he bought or terrible traffic - I offer a witty retort and he replies and then, I don't reply back.

I just don't understand why he asked if I wanted to hang out again, because he did, and then not ask me. I think the sleeping thing was a lie - because since then, he's backed off - a lot - texts are short, if at all. Again, Aries loves to be the chaser. But, since then, I've backed off because I noticed these changes. Not to mention when we did text before, he was dense - yes/no answers, etc. I mean most Caps are, IMO - can't hold conversations if they aren't physically in person.

As I'm writing this, I'm also thinking about how it's only been a little over a week. Gosh. I'm pathetic. Hahaha.


What I'm asking is does this seem like a lost cause?

I ask because as an Aries, we know right away and proceed from there. Even if the POI knows it or not and that depends because we can either be open as hell, or closed like a mind. What I don't understand is that how can a CAP, of all people, divulge such intense information about family life, etc. and laugh intensely all in one night (crazy, I know!!) and then continue like this?
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