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indeed i haven't read a single book by this fine woman. so i don't have an opinion either way about her writing. what i do know is that the movie was HILARIOUS, just so so awesomely bad. my favorite part is when edward goes to show bella "why vampires never show themselves in the sun." here i'm thinking he's gonna turn around with some kind of hideous burn or deformation, but no - he glitters. HE GLITTERS! priceless. i thought maybe they should have thrown in a flourescent leotard also, to add to the effect. but meh, what do i know about production?
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Posted by cappygolightly
lol I quite like the anonymity of just random....the trouble at the moment is that devil has finished the darned third book and I am only halfway through. The SA life style is either far more organised than the UK one or more relaxed, or both ...well maybe more organised and more relaxed are linked 🙂




.... ooops!!!! Sorry CGL 😢 I thougnt I was doing a good thing ....


Well, I guess we can all post in both threads 😛 The more the merry I always say ^_^.
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Posted by cappygolightly
lol I quite like the anonymity of just random....the trouble at the moment is that devil has finished the darned third book and I am only halfway through. The SA life style is either far more organised than the UK one or more relaxed, or both ...well maybe more organised and more relaxed are linked 🙂



no, thats a myth.😛
I only got to finish it before you because I started earlier, remember? haa haa

I'm still not touching Breaking Dawn. Rather, I'm reading Edward's version. I find it very refreshing. At least, I dont get to read one million ode's to Edward's heartbreaking beauty.
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I still don't know what to think of all this twilight hysteria. It's a little confusing and way overblown.

I like dark stories. I like Vampires and Werewolves but this teeny bopper stuff has sort have turned me off to it all. I'm thinking about reading the books but the movie was awesomely BAD. I mean I was laughing at parts that weren't meant to be funny. The cheese factor........ ugh. I quit watching it half way through. It was getting sickenly annoyingly too predictable and way to cheesy romance novel for me.
It's really too bad because done right and this could have been a really good story 🙂
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LOL Sagi.. I'd have finished it too but my Aries fell asleep and I took that as a "hint" to shut it off and come to bed. I spent the whole movie hoping it would get better. *cringe* It just kept getting worse.

I think it's so popular because of the tween eye candy that stars in the movies. I just don't get into that oggling celebs thing. It's so 14 year old to do.

But I have to admit that Gerard Butler makes me drool. It's so embarrasing that I'll admit that but it's true. 🙂 I have a Gerard calander on the inside of my closet so nobody else can see that I'm like a teen putting pics of my crushes on the wall. 😉 lol
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I havent seen Twilight the movie, but I've heard enough to know that its bad. Some said it literally murdered the book. haa haa

My issues with the book are numerous, but its worth a read, i think.(but only once!)
Most of all, I really dont like Bella's character. She is always searching for a shoulder to lean on. When Edward isnt there, Jake does the job. And she hops between them like kangaroo. drr!
And like Cappy said, she'd have pounced on him in the meadow only, or even Port Angeles, had Edward not put the breaks on.
The book sure does teach abstinence, BUT the whole purpose of the said abstinence is different than real life. In real life, we dont want to eat our partner. haa haa
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Posted by lanathegreat
Has anyone read the one from Edwards' perspective? Was it any good? Can you find it in the store or is there only an internet version?







You can read about 264 pages of it by going http://www.stepheniemeyer.com/midnightsun.html>here</a>, scroll down about half way, and then click on "Midnight Sun Partial Draft".


Downloads a pdf file for your perusement and enjoyment!!

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You can get the unfinished book from here, Cappy. ^
Meyer had posted it on her site after the leak fiasco.
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Posted by cappygolightly
I like the way meyer has looked at the other side of vampire and werewolf legends and developed them into a fantasy of her own. Parts are not well written (usually bits linking one good bit to another). However, she does come up with some insightful sci fi/fantasy and almost literary gems in other places which make it worth going on.

I also agree that Jacob would definitely be a saggy. Edward is apparently a gem, but I would have said scorp too.




I was thinking about Sag as well. Given the fact that our very caring Bella conveniently forgot to wish him bday, since she was wallowing in her own loss of Edward's beautiful, heartbreakingly breathtaking form. It passed during her numb-period (somewhere oct-jan) so i guess Sag it is.
It suits him the most.

As for Edward, he's supposedly Gemini, as stated in the books, his bday is in june.
But I wonder if someone's astrological traits also change with vampirisation. Could it be that he adopted the traits of the sign-in whose month he was changed into a vamp?
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LOL it's ok Sagi but it's funny because I'm alot like you in that aspect. I hate being overly open about my crushes.
No shame in it though 😉 It can be refreshing sometimes to think I'm more human then I appear.

Yep I have a huge thing for Mr Butler. Then come to find out we share a bday. Nov 13 AND his chart is very similar to mine (yeah I went there and looked it up so whos the cheesy one now? lol) I drive Aries up the wall with my little obbsession with Gerard. I have all his movies and I all but slobber all over the tv when he's on. We've even had a spat about it once. SO... you shouldn't worry about looking cheesy. I've out cheesed you 😛

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LOL yeah. I thought he was hot before then I saw when his bday was. I fell head over heels when I realized we shared a bday. 😛 It doesn't surprise me that he's a Scorpio. Those eyes!! We share the exact same eye color too. Even my Aries mentioned that too me.

And YOU were worried about looking cheesy. Honest to goodness it's not like me to have a crush on a movie star. I never had before even as a teen. I get mad at myself for it!!! lol I'm such a dork! 😛

I think what you said was sweet though. It means you are one lucky gal!!! 🙂
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ok question one. Why is this thread specifically in the capricorn section? Or do other sections have it and I missed it.
Is it because the author was born on chrstmas eve and is a cappy (yeah I looked it up)?

Anyway, i'm not hear to cause arguments or anything but I have a lot of issues with these books. Now lets blame my Gem-moon which loves to try and see things from other points of view and likes to discuss.

But I really don't get the big deal. I read the first 3 books (bought the first, borrowed the next two) and I know most of the plot of Breaking Dawn but they drive me crazy. They annoy me more than a book has any right to. Bella is so annoying to read, she's utterly pathetic, Edward is controlling and it's shown as romantic, the plot holes are everywhere. It comes off really sexist to me in a lot of ways; I find myself wanting to scream at Bella to get a backbone. From a literary POV, apart from the plot holes, it seems like a wet dream with overly flowerly language and big words used incorrectly. It also tells instead of shows.

And the love is just horrible. It's completely unbelievable and not because it's all consuming or they'd die for each other or whatever but because it's based on nothing. It's so shallow and we're constantly told it's deep.

You see how riled up this gets me? It's insane
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Posted by CancerKitten
ok question one. Why is this thread specifically in the capricorn section? Or do other sections have it and I missed it.
Is it because the author was born on chrstmas eve and is a cappy (yeah I looked it up)?

Anyway, i'm not hear to cause arguments or anything but I have a lot of issues with these books. Now lets blame my Gem-moon which loves to try and see things from other points of view and likes to discuss.

But I really don't get the big deal. I read the first 3 books (bought the first, borrowed the next two) and I know most of the plot of Breaking Dawn but they drive me crazy. They annoy me more than a book has any right to. Bella is so annoying to read, she's utterly pathetic, Edward is controlling and it's shown as romantic, the plot holes are everywhere. It comes off really sexist to me in a lot of ways; I find myself wanting to scream at Bella to get a backbone. From a literary POV, apart from the plot holes, it seems like a wet dream with overly flowerly language and big words used incorrectly. It also tells instead of shows.

And the love is just horrible. It's completely unbelievable and not because it's all consuming or they'd die for each other or whatever but because it's based on nothing. It's so shallow and we're constantly told it's deep.

You see how riled up this gets me? It's insane




Okay, I'll answer your questions ... the best that I can anyway.

This thread is on the capricorn because I wanted it on the capricorn board. Thats all, I wanted it here so I created it here. Plus this is my home board, so most of my thread will always be here, they will not be in too many other places.

Also, this thread is kinda like a bookclub for Twilight if you will 🙂 So was the previous one that CGL created and that one is still going too. If you are not a fan of Twilight .... than don't read it. I see if you have issue but you don't have to read it. Plus, all this is really for fun, not anything else.

Okay done lol, sorry for being so straightforward but I didn't know any other way.
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As for Edward, he's supposedly Gemini, as stated in the books, his bday is in june.
But I wonder if someone's astrological traits also change with vampirisation. Could it be that he adopted the traits of the sign-in whose month he was changed into a vamp?



Ah ....I can't remember if we were told which month he changed...would have to go back to twilight and check or maybe it's mentioned in midnight sun.
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Even I dont remember if he told when he was changed. that left the issue hanging. I'm sure Meyer didnt know that astro freaks like would go Volturi on her ass. haa haa

Although, on many occasions, I do feel that Meyer was using astrology to define characters, consciously or subconsciously.
I can see the virgoness in Bella, very typically virgo at times. Then Jacob seems like a total Sag.
Although with Edward, it doesnt seem to work. His shifty mood swings might be it, but other things dont match Gems.
Alice seems like a Libra with Aqua moon or rising, or an aquarius.(she reminds me of Lady M)
Jasper looks like pisces or cancer.
Emmett, a leo or aquarius(my cousin says so)? not very sure, but seems like a happy go lucky sort of guy.
Rosalie would be a leo. haa haa
Carlisle seems like a virgo or pisces.
Not sure about Esme.
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Awww man, Admit it, you both liked that actor who played Edward 😛😉



I am sooooo attracted to the guy who plays Edward LOL! I'll admit it. The more I look at him dressed as Edward Cullen ... the more I get hot 😛 *giggles* I like him only as Edward right now, maybe its the makeup.


hahaha, why do I like dark, frightening guys 😄 Its something about those eyes ... its the eyes 😄 😄 😄

OMG ... but I will admit that will be both delighted and freaked out if I guy like Edward Cullen ever stalked me the way he stalked Bella for a bit lol
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And I must say that his version(Midnight Sun) is a hell lot funnier than Twilight, right from the first chapter.
Has anyone noticed, even the writing style of Meyer has improved.




You're reading MIDNIGHT SUN!!!! Already!!!! Damn Devil, you read like a speed-demon :O


Thats cool 😄

Not all of it, I'm still stuck on chapter 2. (But I find it more gripping than Bella's monologue about Edward's perfection.---Yes I'll say that 100 times, because I really feel liberated. haa haa)
Reading from the laptop is weird. I dont know how pluto does it. She prefers the laptop for some odd reason.
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oohhh, I normally don't like reading from a labtop. I prefer a book or something in my hand. I don't know, thats just me lol.

I haven't read Midnight Sun yet ... how did you read it? It hasn't been published yet here in the states.

Thats not fair at all Devil, I was helping you with Twilight and now you've read something that I haven't even seen yet.


oooooo 😛 😛 😛 @ Devil
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lolz... i'm with ze Pattinson brigade... 😛😛😛😛

My goodness...u guys have read three books? i'm lagging behind...😢

My pov on all this...(yeah i've been dying to give my opinionz...)
I think bella's character has been made this way to make her like a person to whom other teen girls could relate to...
and she's a virgo!...omg omg shitz...hahaha...and devil said she acts like a virgo? i wanted to debate it, but see where he's coming from...
she's constantly worried about minutest of things...she's observes things in details...she's nitpicky as well...
but her dreamland ways i also understand...i've been like that...living in my own fantasy world as a teen...
but she tries to stay practical...and overdoes it at times...and then recoils back...🙂

but about her amazingly clumsy ways...i'm clumsy as well...but sometimes i really dont want a guy to intercept my gracious fall or stumble or collision...thats how u learn to face the world...thats how tried to(but failed...cos i still fall/collide with things)...
but thats not the real issue here...she's just...what is that word?...moany? groany? complaining about everything...i mean, who cries about the weather...? there are worse things to cry for...

i do understand the part where she feels she's not good enough for him...most women go through that stage when young...i also did...but that was general thoughts on my appearance as a growing teen...
and yes, even in adulthood...i had issues, but very different from bella...

i wonder if she'd have thought the same way if they'd met a little later...like when she'd be in her early 20s...?

like i said earlier...she's a confused soul...doesnt know what to do...except for screwing eddie...lololz
( and does anyone even remotely feel queasy with the word BEAUTIFUL being used frequently to describe a male...? its seems very homo to me...idk i do)

right where was i...yes, i dont think bella really understands the workings of eddie...n she'd be screwing him in a heartbeat if he ever complied...hahahaha
if she did understand him...then she'd behave herself when kissing him...he told her that it torments him-her scent...it must be so difficult for him...but she refuses to see that...cant she just stay tame let him kiss her, on his own pace?

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edward's portrayed as this darkish sorta guy...but he's really not that dark...he's tormented yes...but not evil or dark...or even marginally bad...lolz
idk??_I??d have liked him to be darker than this teenage virgin boy stuff??_I understand that SM wanted to cater it to teens??_but cmon! A vampire gentleman??_?

Like devil said??_it??d be better if they admitted it was an unhealthy love??_not something that's very nice and sweet??_
I mean??_get real ppl??_bram stoker would be laughing his ass off??_

I'm on new moon right now??_and for archer??s sake wont say much??_
(but yes, I??ll add that I want to scream right now??_ughh ughh) 😢
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Posted by cappygolightly
Pluto.....those pics of pattinson haha what is happening with his hair these days?!! 😕

I think he was better looking in his harry P times. His looks are likely the type to fade or become less extraordinary with age, but who knows.



I think some men can be beautiful, but it's generally a teen thing to go for pretty boys. It's unusual for the beauty to last past a certain age with men. Their features fill out and become more manly. But if you are a teen girl crushing on a guy for the first time, the sort of looks that appeal are often not manly but boyish. Although I am not sure meyer had the teen market in mind when she wrote the book. I think maybe she wanted to go back to a more innocent time in her life to escape in her mind from the tedium of her marriage.



i have no idea cappy...lolz
but i prefer his HP Cedric hair...😛
even the edward hair is nice...


^ like this one too...

^edward hair...mmmmm🙂

^he looks like Dracula here...no jk

harry P Cedric look
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agreeing with what C4C said...i think thats the driving factor for bella...
she wants to tame edward...u know, the good girl tames the bad boy thingy...?
he keeps tellin her that he is bad for her...and she keeps coming back for more...hahaha

on edwards side...its hard to tell...he is not very forthcoming on certain things...
sometimes i feel he is trying to protect his virginity from her...lololz 😛

ahh and i was thinking...being a vampire has some plus points...smelling uber good is one...like who smells like vanilla n honey...tastes like that too...freakin awesome i say...
now i know why bella cant keep from kissing him...she craves vanilla honey ice lollies...🙂
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well...?
a happy ending to new moon...?
errrr...lolz
(im having a pic posting splurge...beware...i've been denied dxp for long...😛)
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