Chronic depression

Anyone here who's been told that they have this, or know someone with it?

Posted by starlover
My dad used to have it a lot

Are you suffering from it rise?

My dad too lol. And I don't know.. I've been feeling like this for many years (of my short life) and I'm starting to notice it now, I was just used to it.

Posted by Vixen2
My mother was diagnosed with this some years ago...she is much much better now.

Do you know how she got over it so far?

@blowmymind what are your placements? And how are you now?

@OP
An close relative has it (libra) and she has been drugged, no end, since childhood until now that they are experimenting with removing the drugs she doesn't need to keep her alive(past medical issues.) She feels better, actually, not a lot, but better and the medicine was beginning to be really tough on her body, so just that was a relief.

I'm not trying to tell you not to take any medicine - if you need it, you need it. Just be careful.

For myself, it's not chronic, but more up and down in periods.

@BlowMyMind
I have actually read that sag is prone to depression. It greatly surprised me, but they explained it like if a sag runs into trouble to that degree, they don't know how to handle it. Must admit that I don't remember it exactly, word by word, but...something like that.

*Ughhh! Sorry about grammar. 😢

Posted by BlowMyMind
It must be a 'water thing.'

But yes.. When I was younger I had an issue with dwelling in the past & brooding over certain memories. Water signs (also Capricorns) usually suffer from this. They let pessimism and negativity defeat them.

Life becomes a burden when you're affected by every little word or action. Its more of a curse than a blessing. Notice how Water signs usually act defensive or on guard in order to protect themselves..?

Scorpios have a lethal weapon. Cancers have claws. Pisces have that avoidant mechanism. They 'swim away' ( bescape )

Yup Cap Sun with strong Neptune aspects ( almost a perfect conjunct sun) I have had what you might consider chronic depression twice. It was based off low self esteem and not having much growing up. It seemed like I could never catch s break. Depression is the worse disease. It robs you of your life. That strong Neptune does make me avoid tough things and put them on the back burner. I hate Neptune being so tight with my Sun.

Everyone - I'm absolutely not considering medication, it's like cheating on yourself to me.

And I know people of all signs who suffer from depression / mental issues. Mostly Sags and Virgos, the most depressed person I know is a Sag with Leo moon actually. My Aries mom too, but I bet it's her Cancer rising.

My mom had it too Virgo. I feel like Virgo is just as likely as Cap for that if not anxiety. I think my Dad had it too when I wasn't around him (Cap). He turned to drugs and such and ruined his life.

I beat my depression but I am still susceptible almost everyone gets depression in their life. How bad a depression idk.

Actually my sleep,diet, and breathing techniques is what I had to change. My cortisol levels were too high from bad carbs ( they were my escape-- eating gave me the instant gratification I needed in other areas and no I didn't get fat).

More breathing through my nose was needed.

I feel you this medicine Mood Sync did wonders for me. It has lot's of vitamins and amino acids. Also works with your melatonin ( mood and sleep).

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Posted by risesafterall
@blowmymind what are your placements? And how are you now? :p

I wont go into detail but I have a Stellium in Scorpio

Also if you need someone to speak to you can PM me because I have a feeling we've been in the same...situation.

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You disabled your PM 😆

Posted by frostey91

Posted by BlowMyMind
It must be a 'water thing.'

But yes.. When I was younger I had an issue with dwelling in the past & brooding over certain memories. Water signs (also Capricorns) usually suffer from this. They let pessimism and negativity defeat them.

Life becomes a burden when you're affected by every little word or action. Its more of a curse than a blessing. Notice how Water signs usually act defensive or on guard in order to protect themselves..?

Scorpios have a lethal weapon. Cancers have claws. Pisces have that avoidant mechanism. They 'swim away' ( bescape )

Yup Cap Sun with strong Neptune aspects ( almost a perfect conjunct sun) I have had what you might consider chronic depression twice. It was based off low self esteem and not having much growing up. It seemed like I could never catch s break. Depression is the worse disease. It robs you of your life. That strong Neptune does make me avoid tough things and put them on the back burner. I hate Neptune being so tight with my Sun.

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Everything you wrote sounds so familiar, did / do you overthink too much which gives the feeling of never having a break?

I'm a Pisces sun with Cap moon, which might be a bit like Cap sun conj. Neptune (?)

And my dad is a Virgo too by the way, what's your mom's moon sign?

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Posted by frostey91

Posted by BlowMyMind
It must be a 'water thing.'

But yes.. When I was younger I had an issue with dwelling in the past & brooding over certain memories. Water signs (also Capricorns) usually suffer from this. They let pessimism and negativity defeat them.

Life becomes a burden when you're affected by every little word or action. Its more of a curse than a blessing. Notice how Water signs usually act defensive or on guard in order to protect themselves..?

Scorpios have a lethal weapon. Cancers have claws. Pisces have that avoidant mechanism. They 'swim away' ( bescape )

Yup Cap Sun with strong Neptune aspects ( almost a perfect conjunct sun) I have had what you might consider chronic depression twice. It was based off low self esteem and not having much growing up. It seemed like I could never catch s break. Depression is the worse disease. It robs you of your life. That strong Neptune does make me avoid tough things and put them on the back burner. I hate Neptune being so tight with my Sun.

Aw. ;(

I really dont want to remember certain memories but those were the worst years of my life.

It was too painful and everyday felt like a struggle for survival.

Are you ok now though?

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I have been OK for about 2 years . What sucks is I will be 25 in 3 weeks and I've had depression twice the second time was social anxiety that sucked. I was depeessed or had social anxiety ( more social anxiety half my time in college).

It even cost me a really good internship :/ ( I worked at a Statehouse and there were way too many people there). I would literally go in the bathroom so I wouldn't have to have conversations. I felt like I wasn't interesting enough plus I wasn't passionate about much so I couldn't really talk about everything.

Posted by BlowMyMind
Your Ascendant sign is in Scorpio, right? @RiseAfterAll?

I think we have a habit of becoming too introspective. I analyze everything down to its core.. I need to break things down to fully understand whats going on. It never ends and I do this with everything and everyone. I'm constantly questioning.

Also Pisces are very hard on themselves. Your sign is highly sensitive. You absorb everything.. You cant help it.

Yes that's totally me.

I even try to analyze what my subconscious might be telling me, diving too deep. Like a perfectionist.

And I personally think my moon in Cap adds the cherry on the top of the inner conflict perfectly. Lol

Posted by frostey91

I have been OK for about 2 years . What sucks is I will be 25 in 3 weeks and I've had depression twice the second time was social anxiety that sucked. I was depeessed or had social anxiety ( more social anxiety half my time in college).

It even cost me a really good internship :/ ( I worked at a Statehouse and there were way too many people there). I would literally go in the bathroom so I wouldn't have to have conversations. I felt like I wasn't interesting enough plus I wasn't passionate about much so I couldn't really talk about everything.

Damn.. That's bad. Do you feel misunderstood?

And I feel you, I hid in the bathrooms too during every lunch break at school.

Posted by frostey91

Posted by BlowMyMind
It must be a 'water thing.'

But yes.. When I was younger I had an issue with dwelling in the past & brooding over certain memories. Water signs (also Capricorns) usually suffer from this. They let pessimism and negativity defeat them.

Life becomes a burden when you're affected by every little word or action. Its more of a curse than a blessing. Notice how Water signs usually act defensive or on guard in order to protect themselves..?

Scorpios have a lethal weapon. Cancers have claws. Pisces have that avoidant mechanism. They 'swim away' ( bescape )

Yup Cap Sun with strong Neptune aspects ( almost a perfect conjunct sun) I have had what you might consider chronic depression twice. It was based off low self esteem and not having much growing up. It seemed like I could never catch s break. Depression is the worse disease. It robs you of your life. That strong Neptune does make me avoid tough things and put them on the back burner. I hate Neptune being so tight with my Sun.

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Ouch! Neptune is a scary planet - I don't even know how to handle it, tbh. So happy you got out of that chronic depression!

Posted by BlowMyMind
Your Ascendant sign is in Scorpio, right? @RiseAfterAll?

I think we have a habit of becoming too introspective. I analyze everything down to its core.. I need to break things down to fully understand whats going on. It never ends and I do this with everything and everyone. I'm constantly questioning.

Also Pisces are very hard on themselves. Your sign is highly sensitive. You absorb everything.. You cant help it.

Sounds just like me! Do you have any special methods of working against that?

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Posted by frostey91

Posted by BlowMyMind
It must be a 'water thing.'

But yes.. When I was younger I had an issue with dwelling in the past & brooding over certain memories. Water signs (also Capricorns) usually suffer from this. They let pessimism and negativity defeat them.

Life becomes a burden when you're affected by every little word or action. Its more of a curse than a blessing. Notice how Water signs usually act defensive or on guard in order to protect themselves..?

Scorpios have a lethal weapon. Cancers have claws. Pisces have that avoidant mechanism. They 'swim away' ( bescape )

Yup Cap Sun with strong Neptune aspects ( almost a perfect conjunct sun) I have had what you might consider chronic depression twice. It was based off low self esteem and not having much growing up. It seemed like I could never catch s break. Depression is the worse disease. It robs you of your life. That strong Neptune does make me avoid tough things and put them on the back burner. I hate Neptune being so tight with my Sun.

Everything you wrote sounds so familiar, did / do you overthink too much which gives the feeling of never having a break?

I'm a Pisces sun with Cap moon, which might be a bit like Cap sun conj. Neptune (?)

And my dad is a Virgo too by the way, what's your mom's moon sign?

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Actually wait no. I wanted to say it made us similar I mean it kinda does but hear obviously Cap is a horrible moon. It restricts your emotions( more than Cap Sun would. You are a Pisces arguably the most emotional sign. You can't have such a tough moon and be OK. You can overcome any placement but that is tough. I was in relationship(kinda),w a Pisces Sun Cap Moon Aquarius Mars and Venus. The moon definitely got to her. She had really love self esteem but nice bubbly spirit and a fantastic singer (Pisces).


Virgo moon makes me over think. I also have a Strong ( super strong Scorpio in Pluto sextiling my moon). You throw in a first house stellenium and I critique myself a lot.

Now that I age it's all for the better. I kinda know how not to hit those lows. There is a never ending struggle with limitations of self being a Cap Sun and dominant with Sag Mercury and Asc. It's a bipolar combo from the standpoint of limitations Jupiter vs. Saturn.

As I age the two have blended. Capricorn dominated my home life for the majority of my life. I used to only be happy not at home.

My mom has an Aires moon which is a horrible placement obviously. She had anger problems and was dictatorial. She had obvious anxiety from Virgo energy and she is a neat freak. I will say my mom ha

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Posted by BlowMyMind
Your Ascendant sign is in Scorpio, right? @RiseAfterAll?

I think we have a habit of becoming too introspective. I analyze everything down to its core.. I need to break things down to fully understand whats going on. It never ends and I do this with everything and everyone. I'm constantly questioning.

Also Pisces are very hard on themselves. Your sign is highly sensitive. You absorb everything.. You cant help it.

Yes that's totally me.

I even try to analyze what my subconscious might be telling me, diving too deep. Like a perfectionist.

And I personally think my moon in Cap adds the cherry on the top of the inner conflict perfectly. Lol

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Omg. I do that too. Do you have a way of getting out of it, or does it just keep spiralling?

Posted by BlowMyMind
"Like a perfectionist" .. So you have Virgo Midheaven?

You dont seem like a Leo Midheaven, The ones I know have a dramatic flair which colors their personality.. You seem pretty composed and introverted

Yes, North node in Virgo too by the way.

@OP
Don't forget that cap gets better with time - it will get better and you will get stronger. Saturn is going to see to that, I'm convinced.

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Posted by frostey91

I have been OK for about 2 years . What sucks is I will be 25 in 3 weeks and I've had depression twice the second time was social anxiety that sucked. I was depeessed or had social anxiety ( more social anxiety half my time in college).

It even cost me a really good internship :/ ( I worked at a Statehouse and there were way too many people there). I would literally go in the bathroom so I wouldn't have to have conversations. I felt like I wasn't interesting enough plus I wasn't passionate about much so I couldn't really talk about everything.

Damn.. That's bad. Do you feel misunderstood?

And I feel you, I hid in the bathrooms too during every lunch break at school.

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Yes Info feel misunderstood people don't know when to take me serious and when not. That's a huge issue. People also haven't appreciated my help in the past and can't see when I am being genuine.

Again don't want to bring up my past too much.
Me being misunderstood Astrologically comes from Neptune being close to my Sun with so many other planets. Pisces in 3rd house and a good ol Moon Square Mercury.

Neptune conjunct Sun and Moon square Mercury are probably my two biggest downfalls. Not to mention Cap energy everywhere amd Retrograde Jupiter (makes people late bloomers).

Posted by Rambunctious76

Posted by risesafterall
Everyone - I'm absolutely not considering medication, it's like cheating on yourself to me.

Well, don't rule out medication completely. If you see it as a stepping stone towards getting better, it can help heaps. But it is also important to not depend totally on it, i.e. gradually ween yourself off it until you are able to handle your condition naturally.

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TRY MOOD SYNC FROM AMAZON 60 PILLS FOR 20 BUCKS. I really helped me I wish I did it sooner. My Aries Roomate noticed a change he asked me for some that's how much it helped!

Posted by frostey91

Posted by Rambunctious76

Posted by risesafterall
Everyone - I'm absolutely not considering medication, it's like cheating on yourself to me.

Well, don't rule out medication completely. If you see it as a stepping stone towards getting better, it can help heaps. But it is also important to not depend totally on it, i.e. gradually ween yourself off it until you are able to handle your condition naturally.

TRY MOOD SYNC FROM AMAZON 60 PILLS FOR 20 BUCKS. I really helped me I wish I did it sooner. My Aries Roomate noticed a change he asked me for some that's how much it helped!

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...or go see a doctor who could do tests and see what you really need. People are very different when it comes to medicine - I have personally experienced more than my share with medicine that was extreemely destructive for me, and that at so small doses that most others hardly react to it at all. Please be careful.

Come to think of it. maybe check D-vitamine levels and the Glandula Thyroidea(don't know the English word, sorry.) A friend of mine did and as a result she got a lot better. She was not diagnosed with chronical depression, but she suspected she had it. Who knows?

Posted by narayana

Posted by risesafterall
Everyone - I'm absolutely not considering medication, it's like cheating on yourself to me.

And I know people of all signs who suffer from depression / mental issues. Mostly Sags and Virgos, the most depressed person I know is a Sag with Leo moon actually. My Aries mom too, but I bet it's her Cancer rising.

Don't do medication unless you're struggling with strong panic attacks. Medication just stops neurons from passing signals, therefore you can't experience sadness/anxiety, but you're not happy either. It cures the consequence not the cause.
Go talk with a therapist.

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This. I believe problems are to be solved, not to be repressed.

Posted by HappyCapper

Posted by frostey91

Posted by Rambunctious76

Posted by risesafterall
Everyone - I'm absolutely not considering medication, it's like cheating on yourself to me.

Well, don't rule out medication completely. If you see it as a stepping stone towards getting better, it can help heaps. But it is also important to not depend totally on it, i.e. gradually ween yourself off it until you are able to handle your condition naturally.

TRY MOOD SYNC FROM AMAZON 60 PILLS FOR 20 BUCKS. I really helped me I wish I did it sooner. My Aries Roomate noticed a change he asked me for some that's how much it helped!

...or go see a doctor who could do tests and see what you really need. People are very different when it comes to medicine - I have personally experienced more than my share with medicine that was extreemely destructive for me, and that at so small doses that most others hardly react to it at all. Please be careful.

Come to think of it. maybe check D-vitamine levels and the Glandula Thyroidea(don't know the English word, sorry.) A friend of mine did and as a result she got a lot better. She was not diagnosed with chronical depression, but she suspected she had it. Who knows?

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true couldn't afford a doctor back then though

Posted by frostey91

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Posted by frostey91

Posted by Rambunctious76

Posted by risesafterall
Everyone - I'm absolutely not considering medication, it's like cheating on yourself to me.

Well, don't rule out medication completely. If you see it as a stepping stone towards getting better, it can help heaps. But it is also important to not depend totally on it, i.e. gradually ween yourself off it until you are able to handle your condition naturally.

TRY MOOD SYNC FROM AMAZON 60 PILLS FOR 20 BUCKS. I really helped me I wish I did it sooner. My Aries Roomate noticed a change he asked me for some that's how much it helped!

...or go see a doctor who could do tests and see what you really need. People are very different when it comes to medicine - I have personally experienced more than my share with medicine that was extreemely destructive for me, and that at so small doses that most others hardly react to it at all. Please be careful.

Come to think of it. maybe check D-vitamine levels and the Glandula Thyroidea(don't know the English word, sorry.) A friend of mine did and as a result she got a lot better. She was not diagnosed with chronical depression, but she suspected she had it. Who knows?

true couldn't afford a doctor back then though

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That's horrible - not being able to afford a visit to the doctor's. No good health care system where you lived?

No money I was a poor college kid. This was before ACA and I had ok money.

Honestly my college provided something but I overlooked it. Not one of those things you think about as a college kid. I thought was just my personality or something idk.

Posted by frostey91
No money I was a poor college kid. This was before ACA and I had ok money.

Ouch! So sorry to hear that. Where I live, that is for free before your 20th birthday, and in some or most areas until you're 25, so I guess I've been lucky.

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Posted by BlowMyMind
Your Ascendant sign is in Scorpio, right? @RiseAfterAll?

I think we have a habit of becoming too introspective. I analyze everything down to its core.. I need to break things down to fully understand whats going on. It never ends and I do this with everything and everyone. I'm constantly questioning.

Also Pisces are very hard on themselves. Your sign is highly sensitive. You absorb everything.. You cant help it.

Yes that's totally me.

I even try to analyze what my subconscious might be telling me, diving too deep. Like a perfectionist.

And I personally think my moon in Cap adds the cherry on the top of the inner conflict perfectly. Lol

Omg. I do that too. Do you have a way of getting out of it, or does it just keep spiralling?

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It used to be really bad where I would almost completely lose my touch with reality because I just felt like I NEEDED to solve it.

I can't really tell how I get out of it because I don't know exactly, but most of all I try to find peace with the feeling or thought that's bothering me. Allowing it to be there, and not trying to focus all my energy on destroying it, but just carrying it along and giving it the attention it's asking me.

Like yesterday I felt very bad and hopeless, and I noticed that I was ignoring it for days until it got worse. What I did was completely get into that feeling (which might be a bit scary indeed). Then subjectified myself to that, went into that darkness, and shortly after that it was gone and I felt relieved.
When you experience something fully, it's easier to take control of - and resistance makes stronger after all. At least for me it's like that 😉

For example I used to panic completely when I started losing my memory.
Now when that happens, I tell myself 'this will pass, memories aren't permanently lost, and the reason why you don't remember things is because it's not what you should be focused on right now.'

It's like comforting myself. It's a bit weird, I think it's just a piece of experience.

Wow this message is messed up. It's late, I've got to sleep now.

Posted by frostey91
Honestly my college provided something but I overlooked it. Not one of those things you think about as a college kid. I thought was just my personality or something idk.

I totally get that.

Posted by Koniucha
What Mercury aspects do you have? Mercury rules the mind.

I have Mercury conjunct Uranus and think a lot. It can almost make one crazy

Mercury conj Uranus, sounds interesting. Original mind?

Mercury is my strongest planet, (closely) conjunct my sun & Jupiter in the 3rd.

Squares Pluto and Ascendant.

@OP

That NEED to solve it I definitely feel - and purposefully going into that dark place is what I do too. I'm just afraid of being there for too long - getting stuck there - and of getting totally out of control. It's not that I'm scared of it while I'm there, but before going there, so I can be hesitant to do it at times, even though I know it has helped me so far.

The memory thing you might want to check, just in case it's physical, but I think you are handling it really really well! You are strong!

Nightnight. 🙂

I've had severe depression for about 10 years now. I am 40% air(aqua sun,ven,mer,sat) 40% earth (mostly cap) and two planets in Scorpio. I think way too much and am super down on myself and isolate. When I don't the littlest things get to me, I'm a lazy perfectionist lol. 😢 kind of sucks. I don't like labels either, but when you spend most of your time in bed and barely shower, let people walk over you then it's a problem lol. I have saturn square pluto.