Has anyone else experienced negative leos?

I've had 2 relationships in the past with Leos that were both always able to have upbeat & fun conversations. And for me that was part of the attraction. But right now, I've been talking with a Leo male that talks so serious & negatively that I have to remind him to say something positive to me or to lighten up. He's told me that he isn't interested in anyone else etc. But I'm not sure I can continue feeling drained down like this because it happens with every conversation. I don't know if it's because he's an August Leo or just in a bad spot in his life. Has anyone else met a Leo that doesn't seem to want to be happy in the sun?

What sort of negativity hun?

Posted by wagtail
What sort of negativity hun?

He's complained many times about how his family treated their father being ill & dying a few years ago & how he still holds a grudge, his take on the economy, his job, money in general, his exes, his friends, his take on how crappy governments are dealing with large corporations. Yet all the while talking himself up (like all typical lions lol). It's getting irritating to have to constantly remind him of not being so serious. I'm an upbeat person most of the time & rarely complain about my problems.

Posted by Impulsv
I did he was jealous

How so?

Posted by karismastar

Posted by wagtail
What sort of negativity hun?

He's complained many times about how his family treated their father being ill & dying a few years ago & how he still holds a grudge, his take on the economy, his job, money in general, his exes, his friends, his take on how crappy governments are dealing with large corporations. Yet all the while talking himself up (like all typical lions lol). It's getting irritating to have to constantly remind him of not being so serious. I'm an upbeat person most of the time & rarely complain about my problems.

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Ha oh dear.
Instead of asking him to lighten up, have you tried really listening to and validating his thoughts? Sometimes getting somebody to exhaust themselves with their own drama is the best way to go...
I guess it's really up to you what you will tolerate...
You can't change others, so if you aren't clicking with this guy then I'd suggest closing shop.
It does sound kind of heavy, even if you are a light-hearted person and not just an air head...

Posted by karismastar

Posted by wagtail
What sort of negativity hun?

He's complained many times about how his family treated their father being ill & dying a few years ago & how he still holds a grudge, his take on the economy, his job, money in general, his exes, his friends, his take on how crappy governments are dealing with large corporations. Yet all the while talking himself up (like all typical lions lol). It's getting irritating to have to constantly remind him of not being so serious. I'm an upbeat person most of the time & rarely complain about my problems.

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You lack originality.

Cliché good time girl.

Posted by karismastar
I've had 2 relationships in the past with Leos that were both always able to have upbeat & fun conversations. And for me that was part of the attraction. But right now, I've been talking with a Leo male that talks so serious & negatively that I have to remind him to say something positive to me or to lighten up. He's told me that he isn't interested in anyone else etc. But I'm not sure I can continue feeling drained down like this because it happens with every conversation. I don't know if it's because he's an August Leo or just in a bad spot in his life. Has anyone else met a Leo that doesn't seem to want to be happy in the sun?

I am pretty optimistic. However, I was recently told by a family member that all I ever say about her is negative. I was suprised and hadn't even realized. Alot of times I am sercastic and can have a weird sense of humor. She doesn't seem to let stuff bother her, but apparently it was. I never did apologize for it, but I have been making sure I point out more positive things.

Could be my virgo venus— Just guessing because I am not too week versed in astrology

Check his moon and mercury. I suppose I could be considered a downer; I can get upbeat and fun in certain situations, but I can also be critical (of myself and others), sarcastic, and I do tend to see the "downside" of any given situation. When I do comment on it, it's usually to provoke conversation or awareness. I don't mind being around shiny, happy people but for myself I prefer to be more "real".

Cap moon, Virgo mercury.

He has a Moon Aquarius, Mercury Leo, Venus Virgo, and Mars Libra.

This isn't some weird sense of humor or him being sarcastic. It's been a month of him calling me 2-4 times a day, every day, to tell me how he's done every job possible outside of an office & how the economy is so bad that he can't make money doing any of them now unless he moves around to places in the middle of nowhere. I've praised him on all he's accomplished & told him I don't care about money. That who he is now is what matters more. As far as telling him to lighten up & pushing him to be more optimistic, I've only just started doing that the past couple of days. When I do that, all he says is "well I'm alive" or "well I like you". I've tried joking around & changing the topic to things that aren't as serious as "money's going to worthless within ten years and the only way anyone will survive it is if they have lots of guns & live in a bunker & have you're on private access to a water supply to sell" or how his family members owe him so much money that he's suing each one. Or how many times he's broken bones from being a daredevil in the past. Or ex-girlfriends stalking him. Or all the things that go wrong with his job each day. Telling me all this stuff wouldn't be an issue if it wasn't all he wants to talk about.
I've just never experienced or read anywhere that Leos could be this constantly negative & I hope I'm not the only one to have come across this. I feel like yelling at him to be happy sometimes because I have hope of starting a fun, happy dating relationship with him.

Oh and just wanted to mention that I've been a fan of this site for awhile. I love reading all the posts. I've just been too shy to really post any comments. And thank you for any replies.

Posted by MindControl
I tend to stay away from Leos or those with Leo Stelliums because we always butt heads.

Fixed signs are stubborn and the moment they start trying to boss me around with their arrogant little attitudes, I put them in their weak place.

They're vain, whiney, attention-whores. Did I forget to mention overly dramatic and pretentious?

When they can't have their way they cause a scene and for some reason they have this superiority complex as if they're Gods and Goddesses.

I stay away from them when they're in a bad mood for not only their sake- but for mine.

They're snobby, rude, and condescending when their diapers aren't changed and when I'm in a bad mood I'm a straight up sarcastic ass vile cunt- ready to verbally annihilate anyone who even attempts to come at me the wrong way..

HAHAHA this does describe him a bit. I asked him what his thoughts were on politics & he simply said that if he was running for president, he'd win but everyone would hate him once he was in office. Next time he calls, I probably should just tell him to grow up & be happy because the world doesn't revovle around you & hang up before he can respond.

Posted by MindControl
It's strange that the guy you're speaking to is so.. Pessimistic.

Leo is an optimistic sign. Aquarius moon is pretty optimistic as well..

yeah my bf has Aqua moon and Virgo venus .. he's pretty fun.. he never really complained to me about his job eventhough its crazy and hectic..

he does criticize me a lot ..but I dont take it personally cause I am that way too with my close friends and family. It's ironic I dont remember criticizing him though.. dont know how leos take it? even if its for the sake of joking

I think OP's bf is not ready for a relationship yet... she cant push him to become happy and light heartedcause obviously he is not in his life now.. OP if I were you and were not yet in a relationship.. I'd stick to being a friend for now

he could be depressed ... if one is depressed and people keep telling him to snap out of it or to just be happy... they just show how much they are self centred and dont know anything about how he feels... so better stay away from these two things to say.. and be understanding and listen to him...

my bf always listens to me and some days im really really sad and he would just be there for me and he doesnt judge me.. but sometimes he'd say.. "it's not that bad" .. or "you are overly sad about this situation.. it isnt that bad.. think about it" .. but i recover from it and find that he was right..

depression is crazy

wow at some people on this thread. Leos represent the SUN okay? we are always so cheery and happy and we sometimes use up all of our energy and becomes depressed or down. Not only that but im a leo and alot of times i feel depressed inside but i have to put on this happy face and ive started relationships where my bf would be surprised if i was not in a good mood. ? Ive lost relationships because they dont seem to understand that we have feelings also! its not always sunny side up with leos although for the most part yea but damn we have feelings too just like every human in the world. If thats a turn off for you, dont be with him, dont waste his time. He needs someone who can take the good and the bad. Some people are so shallow just wow.

Posted by MindControl
I tend to stay away from Leos or those with Leo Stelliums because we always butt heads.

Fixed signs are stubborn and the moment they start trying to boss me around with their arrogant little attitudes, I put them in their weak place.

They're vain, whiney, attention-whores. Did I forget to mention overly dramatic and pretentious?

When they can't have their way they cause a scene and for some reason they have this superiority complex as if they're Gods and Goddesses.

I stay away from them when they're in a bad mood for not only their sake- but for mine.

They're snobby, rude, and condescending when their diapers aren't changed and when I'm in a bad mood I'm a straight up sarcastic ass vile cunt- ready to verbally annihilate anyone who even attempts to come at me the wrong way..

ew

Wow I didn't realize I was being selfish & shallow by posting about this. Just t clarify ~ We aren't dating or in a relationship, just talking as friends. He's told me hat he's interested I more, but I'm not ready for a relationship & I've told him so. I only just met him a month ago & my last relationship ended because of physical abuse. He's said he's ok being friends but wants me to remember that he's interested when I am ready.

The day we met we had a lot f fun hanging out & playing football. But he's been too busy with work to hang out again, so we only talk. I have been listening to him with concern & caring. And sometimes offering my optimistic point of view to help him. I just started this post out of curiosity.

Posted by MindControl
Perhaps I am just as hostile as they are?

However when they're in a good mood they shine.

They're warm, open, friendly, and generous


🙂

Hmm... perhaps.

We tend to hate in others what we most despise

in ourselves.

Posted by karismastar
I probably should just tell him to grow up & be happy because the world doesn't revovle around you & hang up before he can respond.

You should.

I dated a Leo like this briefly-- and a Libra, also briefly.

Let me assure you...that negativity will turn on you,

in time-- and it isn't going to change.


Your guy has issues that have little to do with his sign--

is he a middle child by chance?

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Posted by karismastar
I probably should just tell him to grow up & be happy because the world doesn't revovle around you & hang up before he can respond.

You should.

I dated a Leo like this briefly-- and a Libra, also briefly.

Let me assure you...that negativity will turn on you,

in time-- and it isn't going to change.


Your guy has issues that have little to do with his sign--

is he a middle child by chance?

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He's the youngest actually.

I guess I have to admit to myself that his just pessimistic by nature & I should stop hoping for him to relax or cheer up. How could his negativity turn on me?

Really?

He's the perpetual victim:

Look at all he's done for you.... and you won't

bend to his will?

Well... he would have gotten that job if only you

hadn't insisted he accompany you to your parents

anniversary that weekend.

Maybe if YOU weren't so negative he could finally

get a break... you know?

Yes, definitely he seems like he's a perpetual victim type.

His problems are independent of his sun sign, for sure. How they manifest may be coloured in a dark side of Leo way, but I've known people very much like him who have no Leo in their chart.

People like this derive energy for themselves by draining others. Sometimes they will feel quite good after spewing things, but not in a healthy purging way, because they are, as the term goes, psychic vampires. They inflict their negative energy on someone else, but frame it like they are just being honest about the state of the world and no one understands poor brilliant them.

It's very possible to talk about negative things about the world and life without constantly draining people. For example, I have a Leo friend who has many concerns about the current state of politics and related but he focuses on possible solutions that he can be a part of and educate others about. So when he talks, I'm never drained, it is energizing and informative.

Posted by starlover
Yes, four of them.....all women and all had/have Moon in Scorp......not a good combination

Wat you trying to say? Leo's with scorpio moon are negative?

Just because death ends everything and life is truly too short to matter and no one truly cares about anyone especially about myself doesn't make me negative. Quick, find a mirror before I kill myself.

So where is all this emo you keep talking about?

Let's start a crusade of Leo conquest! Where should we start?

But first I need to prepare. Gotta look good for this. 😄

Posted by GreyWiz
first you must remove your lion logo. You are not a lioness yet.

Well if I'm not one yet, I'll never be one. ..only so many years in a life, you know.

Boo!

I'll take my conquest elsewhere.

Posted by GreyWiz
hey sultry kitty.

please read this

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090220150839AAAbKzM&page=2


so you know i am being honest with you

Lol.

Have you noticed that lions don't attack until they are pretty dang sure they have their prey? They're not weaker than than the antelope. They just know when the time is right, and when to keep sunning themselves.

But they know when it's worth putting every ounce of energy into the hunt, and when they know, it's kill time.

That's the power of Leo.

Posted by GreyWiz
leos are such a pathetic sign as a whole. so emotional and so many weird issues from the past. clingy, holding on to ex lovers.......on and on....


when did being so emotional define the leo sign? leo women especially are so weak and clingy. so easy to manipulate and abuse. If they are not weak then they are too strong to the point that they are annoying or manly.

leo men are just ok. Some are very great but most are just kind like cancer dudes. just bitching about pathetic shit and being moody and pmsing over bullshit.

we are sandwiched by some weird signs. cancer(emo, clingy, hangs on to past) and virgo(neurotic, critical and cold).

I lost all hope in my sign. just pathetic and weak.

How the hell did this soggy as sign associate itself with the lion. it's laughable. People will just laugh.

*shakes head*

rant over.

Dang Leo is a lion! Its not weak at all. I think it definitely is one of the natural signs of a leader because Leos are self centred so they can give commands & are not afraid/shy of taking butter from people. Intimidating signs tend to be a leader because they are not afraid to criticize others why you say so lol.

Lmao my best buddy is a Leo so i know you guys pretty well. Very egoistic just like a lion & prideful. Easy prey & easy girls you guys wont like 😄

Posted by CopperDove
Yes, definitely he seems like he's a perpetual victim type.

His problems are independent of his sun sign, for sure. How they manifest may be coloured in a dark side of Leo way, but I've known people very much like him who have no Leo in their chart.

People like this derive energy for themselves by draining others. Sometimes they will feel quite good after spewing things, but not in a healthy purging way, because they are, as the term goes, psychic vampires. They inflict their negative energy on someone else, but frame it like they are just being honest about the state of the world and no one understands poor brilliant them.

It's very possible to talk about negative things about the world and life without constantly draining people. For example, I have a Leo friend who has many concerns about the current state of politics and related but he focuses on possible solutions that he can be a part of and educate others about. So when he talks, I'm never drained, it is energizing and informative.

Exactly.

Posted by LuckyLibra979
I have. Its a shame b/c me and her clicked on a silent level. Everything was passionate but god she was a bitch. She was demanding, overbearing, and did a lot of things on purpose. Other things in our charts messed things up but I hated this one b/c her past turned her sour. She was a real sweet girl, real beautiful personality and she overcame so much. She just couldn't escape her recent pain and it caused then biggest rift. I was madly in love with that girl and probably still am but shes too damaged and that's too bad.

Sorry to hear that things couldn't work out better for you. Maybe she needed some therapy to overcome the past.

After reading most of the posts on here, I'm to remember why I prefer leos over virgos. Sarcastic sense of humor like mine at times. ;P

We try. 😄

Posted by karismastar
I've had 2 relationships in the past with Leos that were both always able to have upbeat & fun conversations. And for me that was part of the attraction. But right now, I've been talking with a Leo male that talks so serious & negatively that I have to remind him to say something positive to me or to lighten up. He's told me that he isn't interested in anyone else etc. But I'm not sure I can continue feeling drained down like this because it happens with every conversation. I don't know if it's because he's an August Leo or just in a bad spot in his life. Has anyone else met a Leo that doesn't seem to want to be happy in the sun?

He's depressed. I'm with a leo now, and we've been threw this before.
Very loving, charming and happy in public, then back in his den where he's comfortable and he's around me he'd be
very angry and moody and mean! (never admitting to it of course).
There's probably just something going on with him thats out of his control and
his way to deal is to brood and sulk. They aren't great at communicating their feelings
until they are juuuust about to explode. Then its time to talk them off the ledge or tell them to put the gun away.
Besides just being they're physically and giving the occasional pat on the back, and maybe getting out the house,
I haven't quiet figured out how to snap them out of that sulky mood.

But DO NOT engage in the fuckery…misery loves company, nothing like a miserable leo smh

Posted by Joselineee
lmao leo men are sooo absurd...it makes me laugh

wow the hatred from you. Hate us all you want but please get alive bitch. Enough said.

Posted by Scorpico
But DO NOT engage in the fuckery…misery loves company, nothing like a miserable leo smh

This.

When I was 12 (heh), there was this girl I despised because

she would say ugly things about me, and I hated that.

I couldn't stop talking about how much I hated it, either.

My friend on the bus started talking with her one day, and I

was wtf are you doing?

She said She talks about fun things-- you just talk about how

much you hate her.

😐

Point taken.

I didn't realize what I was doing... but sometimes the simple

truth is effective.


Be gentle. 😄

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Posted by Joselineee
lmao leo men are sooo absurd...it makes me laugh

wow the hatred from you. Hate us all you want but please get alive bitch. Enough said.

you're a clown. i guess you need to be loved from every single person here...put your ego to the side

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I'm not going to argue with you over some forum. I guess I have to seek attention somewhere else. 😄

yep myself. very sulky lately...ended up deleting all my social media to clear my mind. It's weird. But usually I'm only negative if I'm around negative people too long.

Well dude does have saturn ruling his emotions

Doesn't sound like the most positive upbeat guy lol

Posted by littlemegabyte
On the other hand, my brother is also a Leo sun with either Pisces or Cancer moon and he's one of my favorite people ever 🙂 I love him to pieces. Another of my best friends is a Leo sun and Pisces moon as well, she's wonderful.

Leo with a Cancer moon-

Not pessimistic and cold like the op is talking about

But soo emo- the most emo person i have ever met.

Will complain about the person who cut him off in traffic 5 hours ago. It's exhausting. It never ends.

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Posted by karismastar
I've had 2 relationships in the past with Leos that were both always able to have upbeat & fun conversations. And for me that was part of the attraction. But right now, I've been talking with a Leo male that talks so serious & negatively that I have to remind him to say something positive to me or to lighten up. He's told me that he isn't interested in anyone else etc. But I'm not sure I can continue feeling drained down like this because it happens with every conversation. I don't know if it's because he's an August Leo or just in a bad spot in his life. Has anyone else met a Leo that doesn't seem to want to be happy in the sun?

you should post his whole chart. He could have cancer moon etc. you can't say this "leo man" and generalize him like that. Sun sign is not the be all and end all of astrology.

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Here is his full chart. I think I had posted the wrong one before because he wasn't very willing to tell me his age.

Sun 17°51' Leo
Moon 0°10' Aquarius
Mercury 26°47' ? Leo
Venus 19°26' Virgo
Mars 23°55' Libra
Jupiter 24°16' Gemini
Saturn 15°45' ? Pisces
Uranus 13°29' Virgo
Neptune 17°16' Scorpio
Pluto 15°05' Virgo
Chiron 21°40' ? Pisces
Ceres 2°18' ? Aries
Pallas 12°56' ? Aquarius
Juno 6°55' ? Aquarius
Vesta 23°22' Gemini
Node 11°43' ? Gemini
Lilith 0°59' Aquarius
Fortune 16°33' Aries
AS 4°14' Scorpio
MC 11°23' Leo

Update: After a few days of him calling to only complain about the same things again (and yes I screened the calls to gauge his mood), I finally called him out on how he talks to me which didn't go over that well since his immediate response was to be dismissive of my point of view. I think it's caused him to move on from wanting to call me anymore. I'm still going to be friendly to him if I run into him again & wish him a happier life. But trying to be closer friends then that again wouldn't happen. Thank you for all the input.

Posted by karismastar
Update: After a few days of him calling to only complain about the same things again (and yes I screened the calls to gauge his mood), I finally called him out on how he talks to me which didn't go over that well since his immediate response was to be dismissive of my point of view. I think it's caused him to move on from wanting to call me anymore. I'm still going to be friendly to him if I run into him again & wish him a happier life. But trying to be closer friends then that again wouldn't happen. Thank you for all the input.

Just two things

Is his time of birth correct?

And

Good.