Leo is driving me nuts

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If it helps this is hers
Sun Leo 6.27 Ascendant Scorpio 0.03
Moon Scorpio 9.23 II Scorpio 27.38
Mercury Virgo 0.34 III Capricorn 1.27
Venus Cancer 11.42 IV Aquarius 9.10
Mars Taurus 11.18 V Pisces 12.53
Jupiter Cancer 25.46 VI Aries 9.29
Saturn Capricorn 20.55 R VII Taurus 0.03
Uranus Capricorn 6.26 R VIII Taurus 27.38
Neptune Capricorn 12.34 R IX Cancer 1.27
Pluto Scorpio 14.59 Midheaven Leo 9.10
Lilith Scorpio 29.50 XI Virgo 12.53
Asc node Aquarius 7.20 XII Libra 9.29

This is mine
Sun Scorpio 7.43 Ascendant Capricorn 22.36
Moon Scorpio 24.20 II Aquarius 28.10
Mercury Scorpio 0.59 III Aries 4.15
Venus Sagittarius 24.33 IV Taurus 5.59
Mars Libra 27.17 V Gemini 2.47
Jupiter Cancer 10.52 R VI Gemini 27.10
Saturn Capricorn 9.16 VII Cancer 22.36
Uranus Capricorn 2.25 VIII Leo 28.10
Neptune Capricorn 10.03 IX Libra 4.15
Pluto Scorpio 14.50 Midheaven Scorpio 5.59
Lilith Libra 29.34 XI Sagittarius 2.47
Asc node Aquarius 22.22 XII Sagittarius 27.10

is it going to work?
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2 cents....

I have the same Sun, Moon, Merc and Mars as your Leo There are actually a few of us here that have many of these exact placements. My answers are based on me and what I have learned about myself. I could be totally off base but I doubt it.

She is attracted to the compliments you said you constantly give her. I need them as much as someone else needs food and water. Chances are she does too. They are essential to our happiness. I do not know why. I use to work from home and came back into the office because I needed the outside affirmations. Again, this is not every Leo woman but it is this Leo woman and possibly your Leo woman.

If you want her, walk away. Pull back rather abrubtly. She will be confused. You know the look when your cat turns its head from side to side trying to figure out why you are putting a stick covered with white stuff in your mounth and then spitting into the sink? That's the look.

How does one go from putting me on a pedestal and then dropping me like a hot rock — I need to figure this out. So she will try to figure it out. Her MerVir will take over. She will not be able to help herself.

Now, this is where it gets tricky. It will not take her long to figure out what is going on. Before you know it the tables will be turned and you will be right back here again. See it's really a game. Do you really want to play a game until SHE gets tired of playing? Maybe you do. I say GO FOR IT. It will be the most fun you have ever had that much I guarantee. She will put her paw on you and toss you about, possibly even pick you up in her mouth until you sting her. You are going to have to sting her quite often. I know you said she was hurt by a man...um hum. I bet dollars to donuts that "man" has a completely different version of events. Don't worry we bounce back like no other..9 lives remember..we always land on our feet. 🙂 If she were truly hurt you would not even be talking to her. No one is going to see us down and out.

Good Luck to you. Scorpio Sun verses Scorpio Moon aka the I don't trust you , good cause I don't trust you either relationship. LOL
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Posted by Jynja
What I learned about Scorpio-Leo is don't play games. Give rules and be willing to discuss hers. Learned it the hard way, and never gonna do it again! Justsayin



Oh she's playing alright...

but her flirtious nature was too much for me to handle

we do flirt, hug and kiss even when we had a partner

Sometimes she even comes hugging onto me or grabbing on to me but she said she needed time.

at first if i did not message her she would message me asking where did baby go?


He can get as serious as he wants. Until she is done with the mind games it won't matter. But my Scorpio/Leo experience is null so I don't know just going off of what he told us.

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Yea , I'm going to agree with Big Poppa on this one. You were playing right along with her. She was certainly playing too. Now you want to go all SERIOUS and you want her to go with you. She will not go with you. She will follow you though. Just walk away.I'm telling you the rejection will be too much for her.

There is no such thing as the "one that got away" to a Leo woman I have heard speak of such things but they don't exist in our world".
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Posted by WoundedLeo
Posted by Sc0rpyking89
The dude that hurt her was also a scorp.. Lol



Now listen up. I also have Venus in Cancer. If there are 2 signs that have hurt me more than any other, it is Scorp and Cap. Personally, I plan to avoid these 2 signs like the plague. If your Leo girl is anything like me, he hurts will run deep and don't heal quickly. I can totally understand her being flirty with you, but also weary of you.

If she's like me, she can be as flirty, fun, charming, intriguing, and warm as any Leo woman on the outside. But on the inside she might be a royal mess and doesn't feel ready to tread down the Scorpio road again. I certainly don't plan to ever again.
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Interesting, Wounded. I'm more drawn to the ones that hurt me. It kills the Leo numbness and makes me feel more lively. Even if it is out of anger or pain. I guess it's like the saying "better to hurt than feel nothing at all."

I can see where you're coming from though :]
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Interesting, Wounded. I'm more drawn to the ones that hurt me. It kills the Leo numbness and makes me feel more lively. Even if it is out of anger or pain. I guess it's like the saying "better to hurt than feel nothing at all."

I can see where you're coming from though :]



Sweetie,

You are young and full of life. You have the strength and the energy to "feel the pain" if necessary. When I was your age, I was a fighter like the rest of us. I could roar, scratch, and hunt. I'd go after the unattainable ones just to prove to myself that I could get them in my den. God-forbid that they wouldn't follow docilely because I would plot ways of getting back at them. Ahhh the good ol' days. LOL.

Now,I'm just an old wounded leo wanting nothing less than peace and tranquility. I just want to lounge in my den with some good company.
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:{ Do you feel it partly to be your own fault that you feel too hurt now because you went after just that type? Do you have regrets or would you do it all again the same?
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The dude that hurt her was also a scorp.. Lol



Now listen up. I also have Venus in Cancer. If there are 2 signs that have hurt me more than any other, it is Scorp and Cap. Personally, I plan to avoid these 2 signs like the plague. If your Leo girl is anything like me, he hurts will run deep and don't heal quickly. I can totally understand her being flirty with you, but also weary of you.

If she's like me, she can be as flirty, fun, charming, intriguing, and warm as any Leo woman on the outside. But on the inside she might be a royal mess and doesn't feel ready to tread down the Scorpio road again. I certainly don't plan to ever again.



Interesting, Wounded. I'm more drawn to the ones that hurt me. It kills the Leo numbness and makes me feel more lively. Even if it is out of anger or pain. I guess it's like the saying "better to hurt than feel nothing at all."

I can see where you're coming from though :]



The numbness is from your cap moon, not your leo sun, as I think most leos with a cancer moon will be able to attest to (unless it's in prominent aspect to saturn).
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I believe all Leo sun signs acquire a degree of numbness because reality does not coincide with the Leonine positivity, love, and idealism. Reality is a bummer. It may be extra worse for me though because of the Cap moon. I always thought it was a contrary combination. A cap moon is a deep thinker but a negative thinker. I am kind of grateful for it though. It balances with the Leo so I can dream big but then weigh the ideas with reality. Sometimes, especially now, but I believe it to be my age and stage of life, I get very frustrated with myself and don't think things out but that is usually because I'm sick of thinking. :p It's the uncertainty of life. I love uncertainty but this is a kind I don't enjoy.

If a Cap moon teaches you anything, it's limits. You realize how limited you are. But it yins the Leo "limitless" yang. And so I value it because I feel like I can see more clearly.

But Scorps and Caps have always been described as "made" for each other.
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Yeah, my leo has cap rising conjunct saturn in 1st [with both opposing his cancer moon], so I know the type of energy melding you describe. Thank God for that cancer moon is all I can say; even though the saturn opposition is a harsh aspect, at least I get a cuddle pie Mr sensitive half the time.

I can see what you mean now about the world being at odds with leo's natural sunniness, though I'd never thought of it from that angle it was an interesting new perspective to consider. Piscean hypersensitivity isn't all too compatible with life on this planet either 😛



Haha. Funny how we're all here but the truth is no one was made for this earth. ;p
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I believe all Leo sun signs acquire a degree of numbness because reality does not coincide with the Leonine positivity, love, and idealism. Reality is a bummer. It may be extra worse for me though because of the Cap moon. I always thought it was a contrary combination. A cap moon is a deep thinker but a negative thinker. I am kind of grateful for it though. It balances with the Leo so I can dream big but then weigh the ideas with reality. Sometimes, especially now, but I believe it to be my age and stage of life, I get very frustrated with myself and don't think things out but that is usually because I'm sick of thinking. :p It's the uncertainty of life. I love uncertainty but this is a kind I don't enjoy.

If a Cap moon teaches you anything, it's limits. You realize how limited you are. But it yins the Leo "limitless" yang. And so I value it because I feel like I can see more clearly.

But Scorps and Caps have always been described as "made" for each other.



I have no Cap in me and yet I've always been a thinker, analyzer, and thought of the cup as half-empty. Not sure where my negativity comes from.
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Well, your Mercury is in Virgo and Mercury pertains to how you think. Virgos are perfectionists so maybe the glass only being half full isn't good enough. :] "It should be at the top!" yelled WL!
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Ah well no I don't regret that because I always some bizarre way managed to get the ones that I wanted LOL. Lest one believes that I'm into myself, let me be clear that I never considered myself to be terribly attractive, but somehow these seemingly unattainable creatures saw something in me that they liked. Perhaps it was the fact that I dared to go after them when other girls sat in the corner hoping to get asked to dance LOL.

Anyway, this was a long time ago and as I said ARoar, you are young and can afford to take emotional risks at your stage of the game. It's as you get older that you don't want that kind of baggage to carry around. Get what I mean?



yash. 🦇 I still don't like you being wounded. I hope you find mr. hurt free and he makes you feel young and risky again.
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Posted by Jynja
RoaringT, go make your own thread... you're derailing Mr. Scorp's thread. 😛 I nearly didn't see this.

@Scorp - Sun square moon, that's what it is. Her moon scrutinizes the meaning of your compliments and gifts even though her sun sign loves them. Keep the compliments as sincere as possible.

Also, she likely feels free to express her emotions with you, but she thinks you might judge her on it. She took it hard when you said she must have hurt him. She's beating herself up about it already, and I'm sure relationships fail from both sides, so she's obviously also hurt by the Scorp.

She's asking for the full treatment here, kitten gloves and all. Will you be her unfailing support, her friend, her gentle critic and her passionate lover?


Im being honest about her question, scorps do not usually back down once interested unless hurt. I like challenges, i will give you my undivided love and attention if i think your worth it. Tell me the truth and do not lie to me and i will return the favor. I can be clingy at first because i do not trust people right away, once you earned it i become less clingy and my jealousy will cool down. I can move mountains for the ones i love, but rub me the wrong way i will throw that mountain on you. So am i a fit for the kitty treatment 😄
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Posted by Jynja

Oh gosh! You've given her a healthy fear of falling in love with you. She's unsure so she's closing off in case you don't fall in love, she won't hurt so much.


huh? what have i said to make her fear and close off,,

Posted by Jynja
This is too eerily familiar. I run back, shut my door for 3 straight days too, because I was scared I'll be hurt if I kept going on with my current boyfriend. What if he doesn't fall in love with me after all, what if I fall in love with him too much and he decides I'm not worthy of a relationship? What if eventually I'm not who he wants?

And I live it occasionally, wondering if to let him go so he can find his love elsewhere. Because it's been 7 months going on 8, and he's never said the words.

Sigh. I'm being a fool myself, right?
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Words are just words, i can give anyone those words.. what matters is the heart.. you will feel it if he truly does love you.. is your bf a scorp?
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Posted by Jynja
Oh, and I must explain myself before I'm eaten alive 😛

I'm well aware she might have expressed her feelings of "fear" to open up to him and take things a step further, and not necessarily a fear that he will harm her. I also know that her "fear" could be a deep sense of respect in the same way that I feel about my boyfriend (with a bit of trembling in appreciation of the good person I'm lucky to have), or the anticipation that coils in my belly when I think about him... etc. -hopefully this is not exclusive to my D/s life style -

But anyways, I think that expressing this to a friend outside of the relationship, who might not understand the actual dynamics of the relationship so might judge the Scorpio out of term, makes it a red flag.

Of course, Mr. Scorpio here could well have been just a little stalker-ish, and could have projected some degree of obsession as well or made her teary-eyed kittenish again. 😛 But, she broke bounds that don't allow Mr. Scorpio the chance to reply to the accusations leveled against him and she needs to grow a little more.



The thing i fear most is a woman crying... yes i do get angry and i do scream but i will never hit a woman.. and i never have.. Even when i was angry, as soon as she started to have watery eyes i gave her a hug right away and apologized for screaming at her.. i do not see what there is to fear.. infact she said she feared seeing me.. i am possesive and a little stalkerish (only fb) but i do not drive around following her to see if shes lieing.. but she has to get things stright you cannot judge someone for something they did 4 years ago.. relationship or not does she not care about this friendship at all?
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So its a good thing thats shes talking about me? but thing is lately i feel her avoidance i cant get her to go out at all busy all day even on my bday yepyep.. i think its best i back down a bit.. i dont want to seem desperate which im not..



It is a good thing. It means she's thinking about you 24/7, and giving yourself some space is actually a good idea at this juncture. And give her good enough space - if she breaches that space use your stinger. But don't be gone too long... in 2weeks you'll have your kitten back.

Just make sure you don't mince words when you tell her you found out she went talking to people about you and you won't tolerate it. No heart considerations there.

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i mean as in i wont message or ask her out.. she doesnt reply lol.. its like talking to air.. should i be the first to message or wait till she messages...
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Uncomfortable advantage? How so..? I havent talked to her since.. Am i still interested? Yes, yes i am.. I took the time to analyze what she said after i calmed down.. The fact i had to find out she was scared of me from someone elses mouth ticked me off.. The fact after she said it and still asked me to go out and stay for a drink confused me.. She does seem confused in a way, she says she needs time next she will go looking for me asking where i went.. Another one would be scared of me but asking to go for a smoke.. She would warm up to me one day and dissapear the next.. She would say she misses me and be stone cold a few hours later.. I know one thing, as for myself i do not even mention somones name to a frd if i dont care in some degrees.. But yea i decided to back down for a bit, if its mine it will come around.. Your thoughts?
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Posted by Jynja
@Sc0rpyking89 - Have you thought about presenting your issue on the Scorpio board for advice? I presented your situation hypothetically to my boyfriend and he talked about holding on to someone because you don't believe your inner radar is off track and also something about intensity driving you to do every single thing possible to get that person, but also training and controlling yourself and questioning your self about your ideal partner and stuff...

*sorry, I didn't want him to think it was a real issue going on in a real person's life so I pretended it was just a question that popped into my head. 😛

It just made me think you could ask people who might understand you better, too. Maybe they can help the "you" side of this issue a little more than we/just you can.

Just a suggestion.



Not trying to be sound like a ass, but ive never had any woman reject me.. I do have a thing for unobtainable things.. and i do question who my ideal partner is..
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I sat down and thought about all your wonderful advices and i came to a conclusion.. I just got out of a 4 year relationship and the leo was hurt, regardless of leo striving for relationships i think i should respect her decision and give her the time she needs to heal her wounds.. she knows i got out of this relationship maybe this is holding her back as well.. I dont want to repeat the incident where i get in a relationship with her and end up going out of it.. I want to give her the best side of me, and i think it is best to work on myself right now.. If the affection was there it will be there again.. Im leaving stuff as it is, its better this way than to mess it up.. trying to find myself the real scorp she was interested 4 years ago.. Im not giving up im just starting over, clearing the tables and finding myself.. thank you guys agian for all the wonderful advice's and help you've given me.. trust me ill get her ^-^ once i remember who i once was..