Leo man showing love

I've been in an off and on relationship with a Leo man and the past few months I let him know I love him with no expectations to hear it back. I know he felt the same bcus he verbalized it once. I broke up with him 4 months ago due to insecurities. Since then we've been trying to make it work (well I have) I've been doing most of the initiating communication but it's getting tiring. He'll say things like I care a lot about you more than a regular person and love so many things about me but I feel he doesn't know how to verbalize his emotions. After the breakup he did let me know that I hurt him and that he wasn't as confident with me but he wants to work to be one and to find the eagerness to be together in the same way. We don't hang out like we used to but we have gotten together for sex. I still love and care for him but idk how to get him to open up and talk to me about his true feelings without pushing him away. It's gotten to the point where if we have plans he cancel last minute bcus he knows I want to have the talk. I ended up sending a long text message 2 days asking what are we working towards. He has yet to respond no text or call and I haven't reached out either. The silence is bothering me and I am unsure of what to do. I want to reach out but don't want to seem aggressive since I sent a long message and he hasn't replied. I'm at a loss right now bcus it's hard to understand him. His Venus is Leo, moon is Capricorn and his rising is libra if this helps at all. Thanks for taking time to read and respond.

By him not answering your message, you have your answer. It's so sad to see women accepting crumbs. Know your worth.... You can do sooo, much better. If a man is truely invested and wants you, he will come for you and show it, especially a Leo male.... All the best.

Maybe after the break up the spark faded away?

I know for me if i go back and fourth it’s kind of a turn off.

The main issues in the Leo man/Scorpio woman dynamic are mistrust and obsession. Both signs can obsess over each other while failing to trust the other entirely. Even though you say that you had "no expectations" regarding the Leo's feelings, it appears that you clearly did. When he didn't meet those expectations, you became insecure and pulled the plug. So now the Leo isn't sure he can trust you at all. For a Leo an argument is one thing, but a breakup is entirely another.

Leos don't respond well to partners who act hot/cold. In the VERY beginning playing a little hard to get can be interesting, but that's about it. Past a certain point we expect things to run hot (or at least warm) as thing progress. Acting hot/cold comes across as manipulative to a Leo. Once we think you're toying with us, it's downhill from there. So if you're going to go cold, be prepared to stay cold.

Having witnessed Scorpio women do this, it is always a turn off. I've definitely walked away because a Scorpio woman went too far. Especially since Leos and Scorpios have different perspectives, we don't innately understand Scorpio energy's need to protect itself in this manner. If there is something you're feeling insecure about, it's best to hash it out with a Leo first. We respect those who push for what they want.

That being said, Leo/Scorpio relationships take understanding from both parties. It doesn't sound like there was enough understanding to keep things flowing, so it would probably be best for you to find someone new. If the Leo is avoiding and ignoring you, then that's all you need to know. He's basically done and sounds like he has no intention of bringing things to an official close.

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By him not answering your message, you have your answer. It's so sad to see women accepting crumbs. Know your worth.... You can do sooo, much better. If a man is truely invested and wants you, he will come for you and show it, especially a Leo male.... All the best.

Thank you

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Maybe after the break up the spark faded away?

I know for me if i go back and fourth it’s kind of a turn off.

Maybe so, I don't know what to think and I don't want to make assumptions, but I feel I did my part.

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The main issues in the Leo man/Scorpio woman dynamic are mistrust and obsession. Both signs can obsess over each other while failing to trust the other entirely. Even though you say that you had "no expectations" regarding the Leo's feelings, it appears that you clearly did. When he didn't meet those expectations, you became insecure and pulled the plug. So now the Leo isn't sure he can trust you at all. For a Leo an argument is one thing, but a breakup is entirely another.

Leos don't respond well to partners who act hot/cold. In the VERY beginning playing a little hard to get can be interesting, but that's about it. Past a certain point we expect things to run hot (or at least warm) as thing progress. Acting hot/cold comes across as manipulative to a Leo. Once we think you're toying with us, it's downhill from there. So if you're going to go cold, be prepared to stay cold.

Having witnessed Scorpio women do this, it is always a turn off. I've definitely walked away because a Scorpio woman went too far. Especially since Leos and Scorpios have different perspectives, we don't innately understand Scorpio energy's need to protect itself in this manner. If there is something you're feeling insecure about, it's best to hash it out with a Leo first. We respect those who push for what they want.

That being said, Leo/Scorpio relationships take understanding from both parties. It doesn't sound like there was enough understanding to keep things flowing, so it would probably be best for you to find someone new. If the Leo is avoiding and ignoring you, then that's all you need to know. He's basically done and sounds like he has no intention of bringing things to an official close.

You make a lot of valid points I agree with. When I told him I love him it was 6 months into us dating. He didn't tell me that until after a year of dating, there was no expectation prior. Once he told me that I did expect him to open up with me, but he began to push away because I kept prying and asking him to be more transparent with me. I wouldn't say I was hot & cold, but perspective is everything and maybe to him that's what he felt, I don't know. After the break up we didn't speak for awhile, but again I initiated all contact to get back together. He opened up to me a little but not much saying that he wants to rekindle it and get back to the place we were, but he knew he needed to work better on communication, which he didn't and I began to express this to him and let him know those were his words not mines. I kept reminding him weekly in order for this to work we have to WORK and not just talk about it. If that's hot/cold then oh well. I constantly verbalized my desire to get together and build a stronger bond. I never once stated I wanted to break again. It was just the one time, to an extent I feel I was begging him to talk to me. Maybe that was the miscommunication I was putting my desires on him and expecting him to feel the same. I know I am intense, and he usually goes into his cave for a few hours or even a day but always reaches out to me and with him being such a practical guy I expected him to be blunt and tell me he didn't want to make it work than for him to ghost me this way and not respond at all, maybe you're right its time to do something new that I've never done before. I've always needed closure because once I'm done, I'm done! Thanks again or listening.

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The main issues in the Leo man/Scorpio woman dynamic are mistrust and obsession. Both signs can obsess over each other while failing to trust the other entirely. Even though you say that you had "no expectations" regarding the Leo's feelings, it appears that you clearly did. When he didn't meet those expectations, you became insecure and pulled the plug. So now the Leo isn't sure he can trust you at all. For a Leo an argument is one thing, but a breakup is entirely another.

Leos don't respond well to partners who act hot/cold. In the VERY beginning playing a little hard to get can be interesting, but that's about it. Past a certain point we expect things to run hot (or at least warm) as thing progress. Acting hot/cold comes across as manipulative to a Leo. Once we think you're toying with us, it's downhill from there. So if you're going to go cold, be prepared to stay cold.

Having witnessed Scorpio women do this, it is always a turn off. I've definitely walked away because a Scorpio woman went too far. Especially since Leos and Scorpios have different perspectives, we don't innately understand Scorpio energy's need to protect itself in this manner. If there is something you're feeling insecure about, it's best to hash it out with a Leo first. We respect those who push for what they want.

That being said, Leo/Scorpio relationships take understanding from both parties. It doesn't sound like there was enough understanding to keep things flowing, so it would probably be best for you to find someone new. If the Leo is avoiding and ignoring you, then that's all you need to know. He's basically done and sounds like he has no intention of bringing things to an official close.

You make a lot of valid points I agree with. When I told him I love him it was 6 months into us dating. He didn't tell me that until after a year of dating, there was no expectation prior. Once he told me that I did expect him to open up with me, but he began to push away because I kept prying and asking him to be more transparent with me. I wouldn't say I was hot & cold, but perspective is everything and maybe to him that's what he felt, I don't know. After the break up we didn't speak for awhile, but again I initiated all contact to get back together. He opened up to me a little but not much saying that he wants to rekindle it and get back to the place we were, but he knew he needed to work better on communication, which he didn't and I began to express this to him and let him know those were his words not mines. I kept reminding him weekly in order for this to work we have to WORK and not just talk about it. If that's hot/cold then oh well. I constantly verbalized my desire to get together and build a stronger bond. I never once stated I wanted to break again. It was just the one time, to an extent I feel I was begging him to talk to me. Maybe that was the miscommunication I was putting my desires on him and expecting him to feel the same. I know I am intense, and he usually goes into his cave for a few hours or even a day but always reaches out to me and with him being such a practical guy I expected him to be blunt and tell me he didn't want to make it work than for him to ghost me this way and not respond at all, maybe you're right its time to do something new that I've never done before. I've always needed closure because once I'm done, I'm done! Thanks again or listening.

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Sounds like you were pretty direct, albeit possibly a bit intense, but that's usually fine for a Leo. When I mentioned being hot/cold, I was specifically referencing the breakup. The on and off probably threw off the Leo.

That being said, you were right to reinitiate things after the breakup, since you were the one who called it off. The unfortunate thing is the brunt of initiation is on the person who initially ended the relationship (to a point). Meaning having rekindled the relationship, it makes sense that you would be the one pushing things forward.

However it doesn't sound like this Leo is the best at communicating his feelings either. The Cap Moon people I've known seem to be more aloof on the outside and take a while to open up. As you've said, Cap Moons tend to be very pragmatic. Capricorn energy isn't known for being comfortable expressing emotions either. Instead it can be more calculated, only opening up at the right times after much consideration.

I don't think this will be the last time you'll hear from this Leo. You just need to stop reaching out. Never reach out to a person who ignores you or gives you the cold shoulder. If the Leo is being passive aggressive (possibly to punish you for the breakup), you'll need to stop validating his behavior by constantly reachinf out. It's time for you to get busy doing other things and allow him to come back to you. Your silence will inspire him to reach out.

When he does, let him know that if he truly wants things to move forward, the two of you will need to both communicate better (which I know you've already done). However instead of being critical, let him know that communication is one of your needs.

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The main issues in the Leo man/Scorpio woman dynamic are mistrust and obsession. Both signs can obsess over each other while failing to trust the other entirely. Even though you say that you had "no expectations" regarding the Leo's feelings, it appears that you clearly did. When he didn't meet those expectations, you became insecure and pulled the plug. So now the Leo isn't sure he can trust you at all. For a Leo an argument is one thing, but a breakup is entirely another.

Leos don't respond well to partners who act hot/cold. In the VERY beginning playing a little hard to get can be interesting, but that's about it. Past a certain point we expect things to run hot (or at least warm) as thing progress. Acting hot/cold comes across as manipulative to a Leo. Once we think you're toying with us, it's downhill from there. So if you're going to go cold, be prepared to stay cold.

Having witnessed Scorpio women do this, it is always a turn off. I've definitely walked away because a Scorpio woman went too far. Especially since Leos and Scorpios have different perspectives, we don't innately understand Scorpio energy's need to protect itself in this manner. If there is something you're feeling insecure about, it's best to hash it out with a Leo first. We respect those who push for what they want.

That being said, Leo/Scorpio relationships take understanding from both parties. It doesn't sound like there was enough understanding to keep things flowing, so it would probably be best for you to find someone new. If the Leo is avoiding and ignoring you, then that's all you need to know. He's basically done and sounds like he has no intention of bringing things to an official close.

You make a lot of valid points I agree with. When I told him I love him it was 6 months into us dating. He didn't tell me that until after a year of dating, there was no expectation prior. Once he told me that I did expect him to open up with me, but he began to push away because I kept prying and asking him to be more transparent with me. I wouldn't say I was hot & cold, but perspective is everything and maybe to him that's what he felt, I don't know. After the break up we didn't speak for awhile, but again I initiated all contact to get back together. He opened up to me a little but not much saying that he wants to rekindle it and get back to the place we were, but he knew he needed to work better on communication, which he didn't and I began to express this to him and let him know those were his words not mines. I kept reminding him weekly in order for this to work we have to WORK and not just talk about it. If that's hot/cold then oh well. I constantly verbalized my desire to get together and build a stronger bond. I never once stated I wanted to break again. It was just the one time, to an extent I feel I was begging him to talk to me. Maybe that was the miscommunication I was putting my desires on him and expecting him to feel the same. I know I am intense, and he usually goes into his cave for a few hours or even a day but always reaches out to me and with him being such a practical guy I expected him to be blunt and tell me he didn't want to make it work than for him to ghost me this way and not respond at all, maybe you're right its time to do something new that I've never done before. I've always needed closure because once I'm done, I'm done! Thanks again or listening.

Sounds like you were pretty direct, albeit possibly a bit intense, but that's usually fine for a Leo. When I mentioned being hot/cold, I was specifically referencing the breakup. The on and off probably threw off the Leo.

That being said, you were right to reinitiate things after the breakup, since you were the one who called it off. The unfortunate thing is the brunt of initiation is on the person who initially ended the relationship (to a point). Meaning having rekindled the relationship, it makes sense that you would be the one pushing things forward.

However it doesn't sound like this Leo is the best at communicating his feelings either. The Cap Moon people I've known seem to be more aloof on the outside and take a while to open up. As you've said, Cap Moons tend to be very pragmatic. Capricorn energy isn't known for being comfortable expressing emotions either. Instead it can be more calculated, only opening up at the right times after much consideration.

I don't think this will be the last time you'll hear from this Leo. You just need to stop reaching out. Never reach out to a person who ignores you or gives you the cold shoulder. If the Leo is being passive aggressive (possibly to punish you for the breakup), you'll need to stop validating his behavior by constantly reachinf out. It's time for you to get busy doing other things and allow him to come back to you. Your silence will inspire him to reach out.

When he does, let him know that if he truly wants things to move forward, the two of you will need to both communicate better (which I know you've already done). However instead of being critical, let him know that communication is one of your needs.

I can attest to the part about Cap energy being uncomfortable about expressing emotions. The Cap Moon I'm talking to only really lets out his emotions after I've already done it myself, most if not all of the time. Otherwise, he kind of just states how he feels very mildly, not fully expressing how intensely he feels about things.

I also agree with @Chuckcem about not reaching out to the Leo anymore. The more people try to grab our attention after we let them know that we don't want it at least for a period of time, the more annoyed and fed up we get. Leave him alone. If he really values you, he'll come around and you guys will be able to talk about whatever issues you're having with each other, however hard it is. If he decides he doesn't really want to go through with you guys being together anymore, you'll know. He won't give you any attention. I think Leos are pretty receptive to manipulation, and if you continue going hot and cold on him, he won't put up with it.

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As a Cap Mars I share some of those traits, at least when I'm pursuing someone. I still initiate like a Leo, but I don't let on how I feel until either it's necessary or it's pretty clear how the other person feels. Until then I can seem fairly aloof, even though I'm the one initiating things.

He sounds like he’s done .. he probably lost whatever he felt between the two of u when u broke up with him .. Leo’s have a hard time coming back from that

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The main issues in the Leo man/Scorpio woman dynamic are mistrust and obsession. Both signs can obsess over each other while failing to trust the other entirely. Even though you say that you had "no expectations" regarding the Leo's feelings, it appears that you clearly did. When he didn't meet those expectations, you became insecure and pulled the plug. So now the Leo isn't sure he can trust you at all. For a Leo an argument is one thing, but a breakup is entirely another.

Leos don't respond well to partners who act hot/cold. In the VERY beginning playing a little hard to get can be interesting, but that's about it. Past a certain point we expect things to run hot (or at least warm) as thing progress. Acting hot/cold comes across as manipulative to a Leo. Once we think you're toying with us, it's downhill from there. So if you're going to go cold, be prepared to stay cold.

Having witnessed Scorpio women do this, it is always a turn off. I've definitely walked away because a Scorpio woman went too far. Especially since Leos and Scorpios have different perspectives, we don't innately understand Scorpio energy's need to protect itself in this manner. If there is something you're feeling insecure about, it's best to hash it out with a Leo first. We respect those who push for what they want.

That being said, Leo/Scorpio relationships take understanding from both parties. It doesn't sound like there was enough understanding to keep things flowing, so it would probably be best for you to find someone new. If the Leo is avoiding and ignoring you, then that's all you need to know. He's basically done and sounds like he has no intention of bringing things to an official close.

You make a lot of valid points I agree with. When I told him I love him it was 6 months into us dating. He didn't tell me that until after a year of dating, there was no expectation prior. Once he told me that I did expect him to open up with me, but he began to push away because I kept prying and asking him to be more transparent with me. I wouldn't say I was hot & cold, but perspective is everything and maybe to him that's what he felt, I don't know. After the break up we didn't speak for awhile, but again I initiated all contact to get back together. He opened up to me a little but not much saying that he wants to rekindle it and get back to the place we were, but he knew he needed to work better on communication, which he didn't and I began to express this to him and let him know those were his words not mines. I kept reminding him weekly in order for this to work we have to WORK and not just talk about it. If that's hot/cold then oh well. I constantly verbalized my desire to get together and build a stronger bond. I never once stated I wanted to break again. It was just the one time, to an extent I feel I was begging him to talk to me. Maybe that was the miscommunication I was putting my desires on him and expecting him to feel the same. I know I am intense, and he usually goes into his cave for a few hours or even a day but always reaches out to me and with him being such a practical guy I expected him to be blunt and tell me he didn't want to make it work than for him to ghost me this way and not respond at all, maybe you're right its time to do something new that I've never done before. I've always needed closure because once I'm done, I'm done! Thanks again or listening.

Sounds like you were pretty direct, albeit possibly a bit intense, but that's usually fine for a Leo. When I mentioned being hot/cold, I was specifically referencing the breakup. The on and off probably threw off the Leo.

That being said, you were right to reinitiate things after the breakup, since you were the one who called it off. The unfortunate thing is the brunt of initiation is on the person who initially ended the relationship (to a point). Meaning having rekindled the relationship, it makes sense that you would be the one pushing things forward.

However it doesn't sound like this Leo is the best at communicating his feelings either. The Cap Moon people I've known seem to be more aloof on the outside and take a while to open up. As you've said, Cap Moons tend to be very pragmatic. Capricorn energy isn't known for being comfortable expressing emotions either. Instead it can be more calculated, only opening up at the right times after much consideration.

I don't think this will be the last time you'll hear from this Leo. You just need to stop reaching out. Never reach out to a person who ignores you or gives you the cold shoulder. If the Leo is being passive aggressive (possibly to punish you for the breakup), you'll need to stop validating his behavior by constantly reachinf out. It's time for you to get busy doing other things and allow him to come back to you. Your silence will inspire him to reach out.

When he does, let him know that if he truly wants things to move forward, the two of you will need to both communicate better (which I know you've already done). However instead of being critical, let him know that communication is one of your needs.

I can attest to the part about Cap energy being uncomfortable about expressing emotions. The Cap Moon I'm talking to only really lets out his emotions after I've already done it myself, most if not all of the time. Otherwise, he kind of just states how he feels very mildly, not fully expressing how intensely he feels about things.

I also agree with @Chuckcem about not reaching out to the Leo anymore. The more people try to grab our attention after we let them know that we don't want it at least for a period of time, the more annoyed and fed up we get. Leave him alone. If he really values you, he'll come around and you guys will be able to talk about whatever issues you're having with each other, however hard it is. If he decides he doesn't really want to go through with you guys being together anymore, you'll know. He won't give you any attention. I think Leos are pretty receptive to manipulation, and if you continue going hot and cold on him, he won't put up with it.

As a Cap Mars I share some of those traits, at least when I'm pursuing someone. I still initiate like a Leo, but I don't let on how I feel until either it's necessary or it's pretty clear how the other person feels. Until then I can seem fairly aloof, even though I'm the one initiating things.

Yeah, this dude pretty much always initiates conversations with me (I should do the same...) and clearly shows that he's attentive to me to quite an extent, lol. But he seems to be relatively closed off unless I get really emotional. Then he brings that part of him out at least partially.

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Yeah it takes a more emotional person to draw that out. It's weird because I've dated a Cap Sun woman and a Cap Mars woman before and it took a WHILE for both of those to launch. Granted those two were also both work related, but yeah it can take a while for Cap energy folks to open up.