My Disasterous Love Life

I am starting my own thread so I don't derail everyone.

I called the Leo last night. I left a message. He didn't call back. So the wait begins. I am pretty sure he will call, just a matter of when.

What kind of message did you leave? Did you sound like a skidrow wino?

From your last post on the Libra board it sounds like your love life is going pretty well otherwise... 😉

What kind of message did you leave? Did you sound like a skidrow wino?

Possibly. lol!

My roomie was out so I was dancing around the apartment like a lunitic.

I left a really boring message. I wasn't expecting his answering machine. And when I heard it, everything I planned to say was forgotten.

"Hellloo Leo. It is Little Sparrow calling to say hello. It is around 8:30 (or whatever time it was) on Wednesday night. Hope you are well. And I really think you should call me back. ### ### ####. Bye."

You think it sounds unsure of myself? I thought it was a little flirty.

Imagine it more sultry with this intonation:

And I REALLY think .. you should call me back. 😉

Maybe I should scrap them both and start over with a third man. It might be easier than repairing either relationship at this point. lol!

The sparrow always gets what she wants.....doesn't she!!!!
Of course, he will call back with that sultry intonation.....men know the difference betweeen desperation from a woman and flirty playfulness!! and Little Sparrow is master of the second:-)

Keep us posted Little Sparrow:-) - derail that Leo and make him roar:-)!!
Alana x

More in a dangerous blatant sexual way. I am hoping the subtext is ... you know you want to, you know I want you to, so be a good boy and just do it.

I was pretty sure he would be busy last night. I thought he would pick up but I was pretty sure he wouldn't be able to talk long.

Regardless, it was a good time to leave the message. He can relisten to it and stew in its meaning for a few days.

*** The sparrow always gets what she wants.....doesn't she!!!!

lol!

I don't know about that. I am, however, a master flirt. It is just the Leo never gives me a chance. He just pounces.

*** THat's what i'm trying to tell this crazy ass libra girl,

lol!

You are the best chocolate!

I kind of feel like Rocky.

I go in for a round or two with the Leo. the bell rings. I stumble over to my stool in the corner and Cookie and Chocolate rub my shoulders and tell me to go for the left hook. 🙂

He didn't call.

I know he likes me and is intrigued. He is just being silly.

I know he will call too. I just know deep down.

How do you handle the trying?

Bah...men and this not calling thing. It's f'ing rude. I just posted a topic in the Cap board because my guy is pissing me off. Shame on them. :-)

*** just send him a picture of you you know or do something of the naughty nature!!

Never! This is war my friend. Plus, I would never do anything so crass. Sending a dirty picture of myself is amateurish not to mention desperate. Flirting is all in the subtext. The trick is to say everything without saying anything. And that my dear Mr. Kris is exactly what I am very, very good at.

(((Leowith)))

I am declaring war on the Leo. If he wants to play this game, we can. I will win though. I always win.

He will call. They always call. Eventually. You just need to give them enough rope to hang themselves with.

The longer you wait for him to call, the sooner he will.

I agree that not returning calls promptly is rude and immature, but you don't know for sure if he's playing games. You'll have to give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

Are you sure that he isn't married?

Are you sure that he isn't married?

yup. Absolutely. I have been to his place and for one thing no woman would allow that. lol! If I ever go back, he has to sit on the couch and amuse himself while I have happy cleaning time.

Plus, it would be very easy to double check as we come from the same small town and I if I dug, I would find people that know him.

I know he will call. I am not too worried. It is just a matter of when.

*** The longer you wait for him to call, the sooner he will.

Very true!

** but you don't know for sure if he's playing games

You are right. I don't.

I am not going crazy at all. I was a little annoyed earlier but now, I am completely detached from the situation. I am curious but detached. I won't call.

Libras are different from all other females. We don't cling. Hence his attraction.

He'll be back. Of that, I have no doubt.

"Sending a dirty picture of myself is amateurish not to mention desperate."

And who gives the fuck about that?


You know, I was unsure about Libra women being stupid creatures among all others, but now I'm 100% sure. Trust me LS, there is nothing you could do about that. It's just a result of your nature and you can't change it. Just accept it and move on.


I'm sure this guy has tonns of other things to do rather than run after you and try to sniff your underwear. Don't you get it? He does not give a damn about you.

Haffo

It must be odd to be such a failure. You are too dim to even be annoying.

This is his pattern. I am not worried at all. And it doesn't matter if he cares or not. That is hardly the point. The point is he will come back.

Then you are more stupid than I thought.

I read LS's post on the Libra board and it gave much insight to the innerworkings of the Libra woman's mind, information that I wish I would have known a few years ago. Does the Libra woman worry about the flipside? That after a wonderful evening their man might go home and wonder if she is worth it?

On another note, what's the latest update on the Leo front LS?

I could write a book on the art of flirting.

hee! We should team up!

I have never lost one yet either. They ALWAYS come back. Well I may have lost one but a female friend interfered and that is a shame. She might have to go because she enjoys creating drama in other people's lives and interfering. She is underhanded and competitive especially with me because the men she likes generally like me even if I don't so much as look at them. But you are right, they always come back. It is the eight month rule.

** Does the Libra woman worry about the flipside?

This is a really tough question Cooks. Yes. And no. Everyone has insecurities and Libra is a people pleaser so by our very nature we need to be approved of and make others happy. So yes, I do worry if I did this right or that right. But deep down, I know who I am and what I offer. At my base, I generally see it as their loss and eventually they do too.

I wasn't around this weekend so I have no idea if he called or not. As I said, I am not too worried. He is processing.

I've never heard of the "eight month rule", but I broke down and called my Libra ex this weekend. I hadn't talked to her since late January (what's 9 minus 1 ?). It was her birthday and I just wanted to see how she was doing.

She was cordial as ever, but I realized that the closure I'm looking for is that it will always be open-ended. That's just how it is, friendship and relationship are the same in Libra-land. Her voice sounded sad, she's as confused as ever. Still searching, for what she does not know...

Yup. He is.

🙂

Actually, my best friend just married a Leo from her past. While he was processing, he did the same thing just disappeared for a week or two. She would freak out. I told her he is processing. This is his pattern. And sure enough ... I was right. They were married a few months later. (Not that I am going to marry the Leo or anything like that.)

In the meantime, I am busy. My spring collection has returned. lol! I have been bombarded with old admirers. Even guys I haven't seen in almost a year I have either run into or been emailed by. Weird. I was beginning to think Venus was retrograde or something.

The eight month rule is my observation on male behaviour.

What closure are you looking for cooks? I am pretty self-aware perhaps I can help.

good point chocolate, remember LS no white boys after Labor Day 😉

Yeah, you gotta love LS. She's very wise. You too, Chocolate. I just think it's fascinating how sure LS is about her Leo guy. I hope the next guy I meet, I'll be just as sure. Well, right now I'm too busy with schooling to deal with a guy.

Yeah, you gotta love LS. She's very wise. You too, Chocolate. I just think it's fascinating how sure LS is about her Leo guy. I hope the next guy I meet, I'll be just as sure. Well, right now I'm too busy with schooling to deal with a guy.

Man, when I post a message and try to go back to the message board, I get stuck. Then suddenly I've posted twice which wasn't the intention. Oh brother....

remember LS no white boys after Labor Day

You people and all your "rules"!

lmao!

Mystic

The thing is you can't take it serious. This is the biggest mistake girls make. Just enjoy it.

Even if the leo never contacts me again, which I really don't think is going to happen, I just shrug and move on. Women are conditioned to believe there is a lack of great guys. This is just not so! The world is brimming with great men.

Just go. Flirt. And have Fun.

And don't see flirting as a bad thing. It really is a gift you give other people. It makes you feel good and it makes them feel good.

Chocolate,

This past week, since I last wrote about my situation, has been one my best for months. What you said really hit home, and changed my outlook completely. You were like an angel guiding me in the right way. I thank you very much. It's like you knew exactly how I was feeling and knew just what to say. I don't know what profession you have, but psychology is something you are very good at.

I'm still trying to find myself. Not quite there yet. I thought I knew what I wanted out of life but got side-tracked. I'm back on track now. Life is too short to feel down. I've learned to turn a painful situation into a positive one. Positivity comes from within and I just have to keep living by that. Things will fall into place. I just can't speed things up when I think it's going to slow. When I set my sights on something, I go full-force. Also I'm very goal-orientered. Regarding myself, things never happen when I plan them, they always happen when I'm least prepared. Just like life is. We also always learn from our mistakes (should at least) because if we never make any mistakes, there isn't any learning to the situation.

chocolate and I are having a mind meld today. lol!

LS,

I get what you are saying. However, it takes me so long to finally like someone. Then when I finally do, I'm in it for the long haul. I won't turn my back on them. I'm not the type who falls in and out of love like most of friends do. I find that too time consuming. Therefore I watch and observe. When I see someone I like, I'll talk with them and not take things seriously at all. Then I get the guy chasing me because I'm so aloof (being an Aquarius). After a long while of the chasing, I feel I should meet them halfway. For some reason this has never been a problem until this last Virgo guy. I still don't understand why he's acting the way is. However, I'm not bothered by it anymore. I'm looking at it as it's his loss and he'll realize it soon enough. He knows I'm a great catch but got scared for what ever reason. Yes, I did tell him I likeed him in a subtle way months ago. Then is when he started acting all weird. I got that Leo moon so I love showing attention to the ones I like. He must have realized he wasn't the right one and didn't want me to waste more time on him. However, I wish he'd let me make that decision for myself. I know the difference between right and wrong. I think it was wrong of him to ignore me like he has. However, I'm being the mature one and letting go of everything. He'll realize one day what a mistake he made. I, on the other hand, will have moved on way past him. I guess I should thank him for letting me see the real him before I went even deeper.

Flirting is something I do have a problem with. It's great talking to guys as I have no problem with that. I've tried the flirting thing and then I start laughing because I think I look so stupid with it. There are gals who are professionals with the flirting part. My department is to talk and have a good time. I do notice most guys laugh when they are around me. I don't do anything to make them nervous but somehow they laugh. Not always am I trying to be funny either. Like there is a Leo guy who always smiles at me when I'm talking to him. I can't understand for the life of me why he's always smiling when I talk to him. Then there was another Virgo who always teased me and smiled. Things like this I don't take seriously because they're just being polite in my opinion. Then I don't know when a guy likes me either because they haven't shown me anything. When they finally do, I'm stumped. It's like they like me? This is why when I like someone, I have a hard time letting go.

Stop thinking. Start doing.

Just have fun damnit! lol!

Who cares if they like you? Don't put that expectation on it/them. Just have fun. Like yourself when you are with them. That is all you have to do.

And laughing is flirting. Just smile, laugh, and be happy.

LS,

Very true. I think too darn much. I'm a very happy-go-lucky type of person. This is why I have no problems attracting guys and keeping them. I'm going to have to take even more chances than I already have. Things will pick up again.

"And laughing is flirting. Just smile, laugh, and be happy."
I'm perfect at laughing at the correct times. Guys I come across just seem to laugh a lot more than I do. Being happy has been tough through the years. Life hasn't been so easy with moving to another country, another language, culture shock. It's been years ago since I left the States at a tender age but it has left it's mark with self-doubt. It's taken me years to like myself and have self-confidence that I can do anything I set my mind to.

Don't laugh at the correct times. Laugh because the joy bubbles out of you and you can't help it.

Seriously. Men cannot resist a happy woman who is having the time of her life. It is a greatly underestimated aphrodisiac.

And let the past go. You aren't that person anymore.

LS,

You are absolutely right I'm not that person anymore. I'm a stronger type of person that has become too independent. I don't want to rely on some man to get by. Oh, how I dislike to ask for help if I can do things myself. I know, a gal should have a guy help her out but I don't want to be looked upon as weak. The past is gone. However, it's difficult with trusting people. I don't trust easy at all. Like my friends are more trustworthy than I am. With me trust has to earned, and I give it too. People know they can always rely on me, but I can only count very few who I can rely on. The lastest person who knew he could rely on was Virgo guy. I couldn't rely on him for anything. Then I get disappointed. Just this year alone I've grown in confidence which is a positive thing.

I think you are in a great headspace Mystic.

The thing is you shouldn't give your trust/heart/anything completely until it is earned. This is the best headspace to be in.

I may have to write more tomorrow. I have a bad headache starting and it is making it hard to think. Damn air pressure.

🙂

Take care. Don't think too much. One of many lessons learned this year. Write when you can. It's been good chatting with you.

Oh I promise to write tomorrow. work has been so slow lately.

I am really hoping my head clears. I have to take two of my best friends to dinner tonight. One, we are celebrating her getting a new job, the other it is her birthday. going to be an expensive night for me. lol!

But I just hope the headache clears as I would love to have fun tonight.

Well, have a great time tonight. I'm sure when you are with your friends the headache will clear up. You'll be too busy to think then. 🙂

I think I am going to treat myself to a mini-massage before going out. I find it helps with the dizziness I get with my headaches.

🙂

Alas, there were no additions to my fall collection last night.

I am having the weirdest week. All these synchronistic events are happening in my career. As a result, I am going to start my own business so I might not have a lot of time for boys in the near-future.

I'll pm you about it.

It is connected to the art industy.

I am pretty certain he believes I am too nice and that he would eventually hurt me. Actually, I am 98% certain that this is what has happened. He believes I am quite pure, innocent, and all around good girl which I have always been up and which my demeanor projects. He tends to be very edgy and I can be but you need to know me before you see that side.

* We have a very weird effect on each other. I believe he is a lot more charming and charismatic and socially graceful than he has come across. I definitely am. We do everything wrong around each other. We clod about in the mud together which is weird for me as I am ALWAYS graceful, yet with him, I am not. We make each other nervous as it is a very intense connection.

* He may be very embarrassed about something that happened the last time we were together.

* He just doesn't believe it is worth it given all of the above.

or

* He is very casual and spontaneous, something has come up and I will hear from him next week.

I am leaning more towards He just doesn't believe it is worth it given all of the above.

which is totally fine.

I am going out this weekend to drum up business. 🙂

Who knows what goes on in other people's minds, you would think that he'd be mature enough to talk about something if it was bothering him. Maybe he's not as edgy as he thinks...

Good luck on this weekend's IPO, hopefully you'll hit your target market. 😉

Exactly Cookie. They are his secrets to keep and I respect that.

Tonight will not be a "target rich environment" but tomorrow will be fun regardless and who knows who I will run into.