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So, I started saying that maybe she wanted to go gallivanting off to another country with him. I know I shouldn't have, but this was just out of nowhere and I was just trying to cope. She REALLY got mad then, and said, I had some nerve after what I did! Then she went on another tirade about how she didn't know how long *it* had been going on, how often I had been fucking ex virgo. She was like - how do I know where the truth ended and the lies began. I'm wondering how long I've been played the fool. How do I know that is not who you REALLY ARE! Like what the fuck do I know about us any more. She went on like that. Then she was saying she didn't know if she could trust me, didn't know if she could forget it, didn't know if it was right to try again, She went on like that for awhile.
So, when things calmed down again, I just got the sense that that last bit was really what all this arguing and fussing was about on her end. I didn't want her leaving the country having those kinds of doubts. So, I told her ok, that she had the right to have those types of questions and to ask away. Let's get it all out in the open right now. Let's deal with this shit right here, right fucking now! She acted flippant about it - like wtf ever and didn't ask anything specifically. So I just told her everything I could think of - when I first hooked up with ex virgo, why I did, what we did, how often, where,. etc. EVERYTHING. Afterwards, I said, that's everything.
Then she started crying - and she was angry because she was crying in front of me. She said, what I did really broke something in her about us. What she thought we were. What she thought we had and she just didn't know what to do and feel lost because she really loved me. Then she repeated *it broke something deep inside*
So, I started getting the feeling that - maybe it was wrong to come back. Like maybe, my presence was causing her more pain. So I asked her if she wanted to just end it - walk away from us. She didn't answer. So I said, maybe I'm being selfish for wanting you back. Maybe you prefer to try to start building the love that we have with somebody new - start over fresh with someone body else? She cried more and said she didn't know what the hell that she wanted to do. That it hurt too much to even think about ending us and it hurt knowing that I was somebody else. She said she didn't know where we go from here.
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So, when things calmed down again, I just got the sense that that last bit was really what all this arguing and fussing was about on her end. I didn't want her leaving the country having those kinds of doubts. So, I told her ok, that she had the right to have those types of questions and to ask away. Let's get it all out in the open right now. Let's deal with this shit right here, right fucking now! She acted flippant about it - like wtf ever and didn't ask anything specifically. So I just told her everything I could think of - when I first hooked up with ex virgo, why I did, what we did, how often, where,. etc. EVERYTHING. Afterwards, I said, that's everything.
Then she started crying - and she was angry because she was crying in front of me. She said, what I did really broke something in her about us. What she thought we were. What she thought we had and she just didn't know what to do and feel lost because she really loved me. Then she repeated *it broke something deep inside*
So, I started getting the feeling that - maybe it was wrong to come back. Like maybe, my presence was causing her more pain. So I asked her if she wanted to just end it - walk away from us. She didn't answer. So I said, maybe I'm being selfish for wanting you back. Maybe you prefer to try to start building the love that we have with somebody new - start over fresh with someone body else? She cried more and said she didn't know what the hell that she wanted to do. That it hurt too much to even think about ending us and it hurt knowing that I was somebody else. She said she didn't know where we go from here.
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So, I told her if she wanted to end us - I would let her go. That I would rather let her go than to continue to cause her pain - if that's what she wanted. I told her that she didn't have to answer now. That maybe when she gets back from her trip, she would have had plenty of time to think it over without me being in the way. She said, she's had a yr to figure things out and wasn't able to so what was to be gained from more time? I said, well, maybe you just need a little more time to decide how you really feel, what you really want and I'm willing to step back so you can. She said it was hell being without you during that yr but being back wasn't easy either.
Things were more calmed after that. I asked her if she wanted me to leave. First she said yes, then she asked if I could sit with her awhile. So I stayed with her awhile and she layed her head on my chest. She eventually started getting sleepy and so I left. I haven't communicated to her since and she hasn't called or texted so far.
So now, I feel this was what she was still holding on to - closure - maybe. I have no idea where to go from here - what to do. I'm leaving her alone for now, but sometimes I feel like she needs me to be with her but I also feel like she needs to be left alone. I love her enough to let her go if all I'm going to be is a bad memory and pain to her heart. Whatever she needs from me to heal from this, I'm willing to do. I'm leaving her alone. It's not what I want to do, but feel what I need to do. If this is not the thing to do, please tell me.
Things were more calmed after that. I asked her if she wanted me to leave. First she said yes, then she asked if I could sit with her awhile. So I stayed with her awhile and she layed her head on my chest. She eventually started getting sleepy and so I left. I haven't communicated to her since and she hasn't called or texted so far.
So now, I feel this was what she was still holding on to - closure - maybe. I have no idea where to go from here - what to do. I'm leaving her alone for now, but sometimes I feel like she needs me to be with her but I also feel like she needs to be left alone. I love her enough to let her go if all I'm going to be is a bad memory and pain to her heart. Whatever she needs from me to heal from this, I'm willing to do. I'm leaving her alone. It's not what I want to do, but feel what I need to do. If this is not the thing to do, please tell me.
I hear what you're saying, but it feels wrong to just walk away. I can't just walk away. But if she comes back and say she wants to end it, I'll let it go. If she want to try again, I'll try again too. That's how I feel.
Fuck if I know anymore. I don't want her to leave. But I won't talk to her unless she calls first and then she'll be with him for 3 wks. She'll call maybe when she returns or maybe she'll just cut me off again and then I'll know her decision. I don't want to guilt her into anything. But I already feel a hole in my chest in what's coming.
omg seriously? don't make her stay when it's her job. omfg that annoys me. I had an ex like you and thank god that manipulative ordeal is over with. NO SHE CANNOT JUST PASS IT OFF. what if by passing it off she misses out on some great opportunity? by GOING it shows she has initiative in her work. by handing it off that shows she is not dedicated to her work. no WONDER she got mad at you.
I understand that not everyone is faithful, but if you are so concerned with her getting with this other guy she works with then you clearly need to end it solely because you don't trust her enough to go on a business trip.
Bottom line: she's going on that trip. deal with it or don't. but DON'T try to manipulate her into staying. that sickens me.
Sorry for going on a rant. This is something I am passionate about. I have two Leo best friends, and I would never want them to be with someone who tries to confine them to a little box and deter them from their work. My Leo friend actually was just talking to a guy who wouldn't even allow her to go out to the bar with us and our group as friends. You could SEE the sadness of confinement in her eyes, the life sucked out of her. I told her she needs to dump his sorry ass because he is making her miserable by trying to control her life and decisions. Leos are not meant to be contained, and they are not meant to be controlled. If you don't trust her then for god's sake just end the relationship.
This woman does love and care for you, but by you trying to control her every move, you will make her miserable. What is more important to you? Her happiness or your control over her? Think about it.
I understand that not everyone is faithful, but if you are so concerned with her getting with this other guy she works with then you clearly need to end it solely because you don't trust her enough to go on a business trip.
Bottom line: she's going on that trip. deal with it or don't. but DON'T try to manipulate her into staying. that sickens me.
Sorry for going on a rant. This is something I am passionate about. I have two Leo best friends, and I would never want them to be with someone who tries to confine them to a little box and deter them from their work. My Leo friend actually was just talking to a guy who wouldn't even allow her to go out to the bar with us and our group as friends. You could SEE the sadness of confinement in her eyes, the life sucked out of her. I told her she needs to dump his sorry ass because he is making her miserable by trying to control her life and decisions. Leos are not meant to be contained, and they are not meant to be controlled. If you don't trust her then for god's sake just end the relationship.
This woman does love and care for you, but by you trying to control her every move, you will make her miserable. What is more important to you? Her happiness or your control over her? Think about it.
What's her moon... still want to know.
I do trust her. NOT him! None it matters anyway now, cause she's not sure she wants to continue in the relationship. So, that's why I said I'll let her go if she wants out of it.
As for your own betterment, I think you need to move on as well. You are drowning yourself in this. Your futile attempts to control the situation are only damaging your own mental/psychological health. Move on and keep her in your memories. You are both destroying each other. Leo's do what they want because they are free, and if you keep pushing for control and let your jealousy flare up like it is you will only hurt yourself in the long run.
Posted by MontgomeryBoth our moons are in Leo
What's her moon... still want to know.
Posted by tizianiME:
If anything you sound like you have Virgo in your chart.
Sun: Cancer
Moon: Leo
Mercury: Leo
Venus: Gemini
Mars: Cancer
HER:
Sun: Leo
Moon: Leo
Mercury: Leo
Venus: Leo
Mars: Cancer
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Posted by crabbycrab76And you played her for a fool... hmmm not good.
HER:
Sun: Leo
Moon: Leo
There are more than just hurt feels there.
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I'm surprised she didn't cut you.
Posted by SsupesI don't like that he's always making his presence known knowing damn well we'll trying to fix things! What kind of person does that make him? I DO trust her. But when we're on shaky ground, I admit I get uneasy seeing him with her all the time. I don't like it.Posted by crabbycrab76This right here is why you are losing her. This right here is 100% jealousy and bulshit. Who gives a shit about this guy? You wouldn't IF you actually trusted her. Fact is, YOU DONT TRUST HER. Dig deep dude. Quit blowing smoke up peeps ass. Your very jealous and insecure.
I do trust her. NOT him! None it matters anyway now, cause she's not sure she wants to continue in the relationship. So, that's why I said I'll let her go if she wants out of it.click to expand
Sorry dude, and I really mean it, but you blew it big time.
There's too much water under this bridge to ever get back to where you were with her.
There's too much water under this bridge to ever get back to where you were with her.
So she texted and said that she's thought about it and that when she gets back that maybe we should talk to a professional relationship counselor. And if after that, we couldn't get past things, then it would be a done deal. I told her I agreed.
She said that we BOTH had things to work on and maybe trying to handle it ourselves just isn't the way to go. I texted her back and said ok and asked if she wanted me to start looking for a counselor. She said she already had a preliminary list and she would send it to me and asked if I would call and pick the top 2 or 3 and we would decide together when she got back.
She also said that maybe the timing of us getting back together just wasn't the best of timing. She said after the trip, there will be a small break before they'll have to plunge into the next phase of the project and that she was going put in for a week of vacation and that maybe I could put in the same week and we'll have that time to focus on just us. I said it was not problem with me getting approved for the time off and that that sounded like a great idea. She said putting in her request was just a formality, so there should be no problem. She said we didn't have to go anywhere, but she thought spending time at the cabin would be nice. I said that was perfect.
She said she needed to concentrate on the upcoming trip and that she'll be focusing on that. I said, yeah, just call whenever. She said ok.
I asked her, if this was what she really wanted? She said that we've been together too long, been through too much and have overcome a lot and if we're gonna walk away from this, we should both be sure we gave it our all. I said I totally agree. She said but if after giving it our all, if it's still not working then let's agree to walk away - clean. I said ok.
She said that we BOTH had things to work on and maybe trying to handle it ourselves just isn't the way to go. I texted her back and said ok and asked if she wanted me to start looking for a counselor. She said she already had a preliminary list and she would send it to me and asked if I would call and pick the top 2 or 3 and we would decide together when she got back.
She also said that maybe the timing of us getting back together just wasn't the best of timing. She said after the trip, there will be a small break before they'll have to plunge into the next phase of the project and that she was going put in for a week of vacation and that maybe I could put in the same week and we'll have that time to focus on just us. I said it was not problem with me getting approved for the time off and that that sounded like a great idea. She said putting in her request was just a formality, so there should be no problem. She said we didn't have to go anywhere, but she thought spending time at the cabin would be nice. I said that was perfect.
She said she needed to concentrate on the upcoming trip and that she'll be focusing on that. I said, yeah, just call whenever. She said ok.
I asked her, if this was what she really wanted? She said that we've been together too long, been through too much and have overcome a lot and if we're gonna walk away from this, we should both be sure we gave it our all. I said I totally agree. She said but if after giving it our all, if it's still not working then let's agree to walk away - clean. I said ok.
I still say (from experience) that it will never be the same, even if you work through this. Both of you will question your own, natural reactions to each other and eventually (I'm talking years in) avoid any and all conflict.
Maybe I'm being myopic but this happened in my relationship, and we're still in it because the bond is too strong to break. But we simply do not have intimacy. Yeah we have sex, we enjoy each other's company and we can somewhat comfort each other in difficult times. But real deep feelings, concerns, or needs are never addressed.
I say go through with the counselling, but be aware that this may end up being your dynamic as well.
Maybe I'm being myopic but this happened in my relationship, and we're still in it because the bond is too strong to break. But we simply do not have intimacy. Yeah we have sex, we enjoy each other's company and we can somewhat comfort each other in difficult times. But real deep feelings, concerns, or needs are never addressed.
I say go through with the counselling, but be aware that this may end up being your dynamic as well.
So, I'm not gonna bother her - will talk only if she calls/text.
I admit my reaction to the trip was over the top. I guess what I was feeling the most was I just didn't want her to be going to a whole other country for 3 weeks with him of all people. If yall only knew how much of a slithering snake he was!. It was never about controlling her, but keeping him in check, I guess.
I admit my reaction to the trip was over the top. I guess what I was feeling the most was I just didn't want her to be going to a whole other country for 3 weeks with him of all people. If yall only knew how much of a slithering snake he was!. It was never about controlling her, but keeping him in check, I guess.
Posted by SsupesSsupes man, I do trust her. Really I do. But how would you feel if there's a guy that you KNEW wanted your woman and doesn't give a a fuck about the fact that she loves you - he just wants her as a trophy - and he always ALWAYS around your woman - doing SNEAKY shit right in front of your face - and you're trying to keep your cool and not cause trouble for her and you know he's a vindictive fucker and you want to knock him the fuck out so bad - but your woman doesn't catch everything he's saying and doing and think YOU'RE the instigator because she doesn't get where your reactions are coming from? I'm not fucking super human - eventually the dam breaks. It's far deeper than jealousy. It's a motherfucker stepping on your property line. You're not gonna feel threatened? You're not gonna want to keep her as far away from this asshole as possible?Posted by ImpulsvI know he's not like me. He's just denying the fact he's jealous as can be and he does not trust herPosted by SsupesHe doesn't trust her cuz he doesn't trust himself. But not everyone is like uPosted by crabbycrab76This right here is why you are losing her. This right here is 100% jealousy and bulshit. Who gives a shit about this guy? You wouldn't IF you actually trusted her. Fact is, YOU DONT TRUST HER. Dig deep dude. Quit blowing smoke up peeps ass. Your very jealous and insecure.
I do trust her. NOT him! None it matters anyway now, cause she's not sure she wants to continue in the relationship. So, that's why I said I'll let her go if she wants out of it.click to expand
Posted by SsupesHAHA I met her at a club man! I was scared shitless to even talk to her. I think she was on the prowl that night - cause after turning down dude after dude, she went straight for who didn't approach her me! 😄
I would hate to see your reaction if she went to the club with all those drunk horny dudes.
It took me 3 months to get her number because I didn't ask for it that first night and she didn't come back to the club until 3 months later. I know, I went every fucking weekend night waiting for her to show up again.
I'm not jealous like that man. No way she would have stayed with me as long as she has if I was. But, I am protective and know when a motherfucker is being as jackass! Then, yeah, my jealousy and protectiveness will be provoked big time!
Posted by dontgetmewrongYep. We both take blame in that. It's on me though since I went along.
Kind of like how your ex virgo shouldn't have stuck her meddling ass in your relationship with the Leo, or that you let her?......
Posted by tiziani@tiziani, I see where it is a form of control. I was trying to control the situation, the circumstances. But in general, I don't control this woman. Have you ever tried to control a leo - it doesn't work! If you want them to do something, you have can suggest things - they will take those things into consideration, but it is them who will make the final decision to do it or not. This woman is fiercely independent. Like this trip, you don't see my lioness backing down from going or even considering my (now seem insane) suggestions. There was never a debate in her mind about whether she was going or not. It was never an option! I was just in a panic because I know knowing what I know about her, that shit wasn't going to fly.Posted by crabbycrab76It'd be better off to admit it was about seeking some kind of control over her (doesn't matter if you were wrong to do so) because then at least it's an issue between you and her.
So, I'm not gonna bother her - will talk only if she calls/text.
I admit my reaction to the trip was over the top. I guess what I was feeling the most was I just didn't want her to be going to a whole other country for 3 weeks with him of all people. If yall only knew how much of a slithering snake he was!. It was never about controlling her, but keeping him in check, I guess.
If you're seriously going to go down the "i'm doing it because of him" route you've effectively saying an outsider has a key say in your relationship. And that would mean your relationship is completely done, because between her and you alone you would have nothing.
All this will come up in counselling either way.click to expand
Posted by sultrykitty@sultrykitty, I agree that it's an uphill battle. But I just feel like we will eventually work through these issues, I really do because we both really want it to get back to the way it was. Maybe it'll be even better because we'll know that our love could break even through that. Atleast that's what I'm hoping and I think her too. I don't think she will get intimate with me unless she feels she can give herself to me. And that will definitely be a big thing that determines where we are connection-wise because it was such a big part of a relationship. I say, one step at a time. First we just need to figure out how to work through the hurt and betrayal and perhaps jealousy on my part with this scorpio.
I still say (from experience) that it will never be the same, even if you work through this. Both of you will question your own, natural reactions to each other and eventually (I'm talking years in) avoid any and all conflict.
Maybe I'm being myopic but this happened in my relationship, and we're still in it because the bond is too strong to break. But we simply do not have intimacy. Yeah we have sex, we enjoy each other's company and we can somewhat comfort each other in difficult times. But real deep feelings, concerns, or needs are never addressed.
I say go through with the counselling, but be aware that this may end up being your dynamic as well.
I thank you for sharing tho, cause I need to clearly see what may be ahead for us and not be so hopeful that it will just work out.
Posted by Montgomery@montgomery, yeah, she's a lot more angry about it than I think she's willing to admit to herself. What I did really hurt her pride too. So, yeah, there's a lot more than than I first saw. But it's expected when someone you trust and love does something like this. I just hope counseling will help us cause she's made it clear if it doesn't work, then it's over 😢
Thank you.
Posted by crabbycrab76And you played her for a fool... hmmm not good.
HER:
Sun: Leo
Moon: Leo
There are more than just hurt feels there.
Posted by crabbycrab76😐
Mars: Cancer
I'm surprised she didn't cut you.
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Posted by Ssupes@Ssupes, I agree, I should focus on her and not him. And for the most part I am. But some people don't get a fucking clue until you set them straight. I've done what you've said and then some. He can't stand it that she STILL wants to be with me. It's like it's a fucking game to him. I know he's only doing it because he doesn't have a chance with her now and he knows it. I know that even if we don't make it, she already has x him out - she made that decision when she came back to me . And she has seen some of the things he's done and it she doesn't like it. It's not about being afraid of losing her to *him*, it about have someone being so damn obnoxious and disrespectful. Ofcourse, in general, I just don't want to lose her. Period.
I am not gonna feel threatened in the least bit. If anything, I'm gonna kiss the shit outa her in front of that dude to show him who's smashing that ass at night. Your sooooooo worried about the other dude that you could be paying her that attention, helping her to love you more and maybe getting some affection from her. Instead, your being an insecure and jelly guy and driving her away. Why don't you worry about HER and NOT him.
Posted by SsupesSo you're gonna let a motherfucker keep on stepping over the line - over and over and over again? Naw, man, I doubt it. Maybe I'm wrong. But for me, hell no - he and I will have words and eventually, the words will stop and we'll just settle it man to man. That's me. I've only kept my cool so far because of lioness works with the fucker and I know his type. No worries. He's got it coming that's for fucking sure. Time is but a thing and karma is a bitch!
I am not gonna feel threatened in the least bit. If anything, I'm gonna kiss the shit outa her in front of that dude to show him who's smashing that ass at night. Your sooooooo worried about the other dude that you could be paying her that attention, helping her to love you more and maybe getting some affection from her. Instead, your being an insecure and jelly guy and driving her away. Why don't you worry about HER and NOT him.
Don't be stupid. if she wanted the other guy, she wouldn't be with you.
Absolute nonsense arguing.
I've been telling you insecure men
IF you don't have a big cock, lots of money or are famous or something then a lioness must love you to be wwith you.
I commend you on hkuf decision to stay though. Once you start running, you'll keep running.
Absolute nonsense arguing.
I've been telling you insecure men
IF you don't have a big cock, lots of money or are famous or something then a lioness must love you to be wwith you.
I commend you on hkuf decision to stay though. Once you start running, you'll keep running.
lmao at hfuc.
I mean your decision.
I mean your decision.
Posted by dontgetmewrongMaybe Karma is paying me back, but I would think it wouldn't punish her twice for my mistake. I made a mistake, he IS a mistake!
Dont you think that's what you're afraid of as well, karma. You're protective because you know what kind of guy he is, a douche just like you were to her. Maybe the guy isnt the asshole you think he is..perhaps he knows the kind of guy you are as well, and he's calling you out for what you are undeserving bc you can do that to her. Yes, he's gonna think hes the better man and he has no clue why she's still with you. You cant hate on the dude for that.
I don't blame him for wanting her. But there's a lonnng fucking history with him pertaining to her - which started before I got in the picture. His problem with me is personal - the dude just doesn't like me. But whether he thinks I deserve her or not, it's not his decision, it's hers and she's made it. He just refuses to accept it and that is what gets my goat.
Some of the management who are at the same level as her, are flat out dicks, but some are pretty cool. I get along with her entire staff and for the most part they are the ones I hang with at company events. She works in a male dominate field - working with men comes with the territory. I don't have a problem with that at all. And frankly, feel proud that she is able to hold her own in such an environment.
Posted by SsupesIf you ever dealt with a scorpio who felt wronged or slighted in some way, you'll know what I mean. He is not the fucking type to do any of the things you described, but he doing shit still the same. Maybe as a water sign, I just feel the shit he's doing deeper that most, where others would just brush them off. And yeah, IF I wanted to just completely blow it with lioness, then I would have done something already. And though it may not look like it from my threads on this forum, I am trying NOT to fuck up on purpose. There's a lot of shit that's been going on that I don't fucking have the time or energy to go into. But like I said, he'll be dealt with eventually. You can believe that!
If you were gonna do something you would done it already. She's a big girl. I'm sure she woke up this morning and put her big girl panties on too.
HOW IS THIS DUDE CROSSING THE LINE?
From everything you've posted I have seen no evidence that he has kissed her, fucked her, grabbed her ass/tits. Is he texting her at all hours of the night? If the answer is no to any of this then your mad at him for no reason. It also confirmed my saying that your just jealous and insecure about absolutely nothing.
Posted by 037I know.
Don't be stupid. if she wanted the other guy, she wouldn't be with you.
Absolute nonsense arguing.
I've been telling you insecure men
IF you don't have a big cock, lots of money or are famous or something then a lioness must love you to be wwith you.
I commend you on hkuf decision to stay though. Once you start running, you'll keep running.
Posted by SsupesWhat advice is that? Walk away? Give the fuck up? She knows me. She knows I'm trying and I feels that's why she's hanging in there with me. So if she's not gonna give up on us, I'm the hell ain't gonna give up on us!
I don't know what else to say dude. Everyone here has repeatedly given you the same advice and you ignore it. SHE is doing absolutely nothing wrong whatsoever and yet you keep treating her like crap.
I know she hasn't done anything wrong! Don't you think I know that??! And I'm not trying to treat her like crap!
You nwed to find a new way to deal with Scorp if he works with her.
You need to understand that she works with him. So, things can get awkward. With Scorp, just ignore the dude, man.
Treat your girl like u only have eyes for her. Your girl will bask in the attention and Scorpio will eat his heart out.
You need to understand that she works with him. So, things can get awkward. With Scorp, just ignore the dude, man.
Treat your girl like u only have eyes for her. Your girl will bask in the attention and Scorpio will eat his heart out.
Posted by dontgetmewrongShe's not having him walk her out. This is that sneaky shit I was talking about. He's timing his lunch to walk out with her. And she's not going to deal with him on that level because in her mind, she needs to get her man (me) in line. She feels if I handle it right, what he's doing wont matter - and I know she's right on that, but fucking emotions just get the best of me sometimes.
Leo girl can cool it with having Scorp man walk her out of the building each time. I would put him in his place as well if she seriously didn't want any of the drama. She knows it bothers you. I feel like in some turn she wants it to, not to hurt you on purpose but perhaps she probably likes a little of the jealousy bc it helps her get some of her pride back. However, she doesn't want to be controlled by your insecurities bc she's not the one who screwed up the trust in the first place, it was you.
And trust me, she does not want the attention. She's completely different when it comes to her job. Anything, ANYTHING that makes her look unprofessional is unacceptable - which is why she was so livid with me Friday. She even said during the argument, that she had given me space and time to deal with it on my on terms, but *enough is enough*.
I don't get why people say leos just do shit for attention, they like attention, but not at any cost.
Posted by 037Yeah, you're right. I do. Idk, I just let the dude get to me. I'll get myself straight in how I'm dealing with it. Lioness has drawn the line in the sand on that matter - so I know, no more.
You nwed to find a new way to deal with Scorp if he works with her.
You need to understand that she works with him. So, things can get awkward. With Scorp, just ignore the dude, man.
Treat your girl like u only have eyes for her. Your girl will bask in the attention and Scorpio will eat his heart out.
Ssupes, hun, please chill.
It's not life and death. He will need time to change. These things don't work overnight.
It's not life and death. He will need time to change. These things don't work overnight.
Posted by SsupesI admit I've overreacted to a lot of stuff. I can't overcome my fucking nature overnight! But Ssupes, man, I don't get where you're coming from saying I *refuse* to trust her or give her credit.Posted by crabbycrab76Every single person has told you that your overreacting to this and that your being jelly and insecure and to stop it. Yet, each time you post a new event it's because you blew up from jealousy.Posted by SsupesWhat advice is that? Walk away? Give the fuck up? She knows me. She knows I'm trying and I feels that's why she's hanging in there with me. So if she's not gonna give up on us, I'm the hell ain't gonna give up on us!
I don't know what else to say dude. Everyone here has repeatedly given you the same advice and you ignore it. SHE is doing absolutely nothing wrong whatsoever and yet you keep treating her like crap.
I know she hasn't done anything wrong! Don't you think I know that??! And I'm not trying to treat her like crap!
Not one person has told you to give up. I know I have not. Your refusing to trust her and give her some kind of credit. I mean holy crap!click to expand
I'm currently seeing a Cancer.
You let yourselves go too much. Scorpio is goading you and you keep falling. Best way to get Scorp is pretend you know his plan and are one step ahead.
You let yourselves go too much. Scorpio is goading you and you keep falling. Best way to get Scorp is pretend you know his plan and are one step ahead.
I'm currently seeing a Cancer.
You let yourselves go too much. Scorpio is goading you and you keep falling. Best way to get Scorp is pretend you know his plan and are one step ahead.
You let yourselves go too much. Scorpio is goading you and you keep falling. Best way to get Scorp is pretend you know his plan and are one step ahead.
on other boards they are so cruel, they'd say you were attention seeking (well they say always attention w.horing).
I think you just need to vent. Or extened analyse. I mean for what are you a cancer if not for talking your hurts.
Things need their time to be settled down. Sometimes your first instinct is right. Sometimes you lose cause you were grabbed by paranoid ideas. Which one is true you can only know later. Not today. I guess.
I think you just need to vent. Or extened analyse. I mean for what are you a cancer if not for talking your hurts.
Things need their time to be settled down. Sometimes your first instinct is right. Sometimes you lose cause you were grabbed by paranoid ideas. Which one is true you can only know later. Not today. I guess.
Posted by 037
Ssupes, hun, please chill.
It's not life and death. He will need time to change. These things don't work overnight.
I was typing the same idea when you posted this.
Posted by dontgetmewrongNo, not even for pride sake in this case. She's just not like that when it comes to her job.
Nobody said for attention, but to get some of her pride back. I'm sure the insecurities eats at that. Most leos are not stupid, i'm sure she knows he times it just right. All I'm saying is, she should put him in check too, then everything would be solved on his end. Make am excuse, go to the bathroom if hes walking out and walk out after or flat out tell him if indeed she is that strong. In these cases, sometimes the woman has to step up. Then she just has to focus on getting you in your right mind, since yoire being such a baby, not this "days of our lives" shit.
Also, he doesn't walk out with her every single time and she does do things to avoid it, but at the same time, she's not going to make a big deal about it with him because she has to work with him on a professional level, but she has made a big deal out of it with me.
But she made her point with me because she said that he's only doing it because it gets to me and he gets some sick pleasure out of knowing it does. So, no, she's not dumb, but she doesn't see everything and that's when she lights my ass up about what I'm doing it. But I'll change strategies. I obviously am responding to it the wrong way.
Posted by Ssupes@Ssupes, not a problem man. You always have given it to me straight - I dig that about you and appreciate it.Posted by 037You're right. I'm getting too worked up.
Ssupes, hun, please chill.
It's not life and death. He will need time to change. These things don't work overnight.
Sorry dude, just trying to help out.
It's best I retire from the thread.click to expand
Posted by 037Yeah. I'm just gonna ignore from now on. That POS doesn't fucking even exist to me anymore.
I'm currently seeing a Cancer.
You let yourselves go too much. Scorpio is goading you and you keep falling. Best way to get Scorp is pretend you know his plan and are one step ahead.
Posted by DwellingOnMoveBut maybe one day. 😉
on other boards they are so cruel, they'd say you were attention seeking (well they say always attention w.horing).
I think you just need to vent. Or extened analyse. I mean for what are you a cancer if not for talking your hurts.
Things need their time to be settled down. Sometimes your first instinct is right. Sometimes you lose cause you were grabbed by paranoid ideas. Which one is true you can only know later. Not today. I guess.
"It's far deeper than jealousy.
It's a motherfucker stepping on your property line. "
Counseling is a formality.
It's a motherfucker stepping on your property line. "
Counseling is a formality.
hmmmm interesting....
look at it this way, when you become jealous like that and have this huge meltdown all you are doing is bringing her closer to the Scorpio guy and you dont want to do that. You need to relax but at the same time i can see youre upset because you are scared she will do the same to you. You need to forget about the co worker completely and focus on you and her and stop with the fighting and accusing. Forgive yourselves or it will never work out. You dont need a counselor you need to understand that she is not like you she wont cheat on you and it seems to me like she is trying desperately to forgive you, now do you forgive yourself? it doesn't seem like it. You cant reflect your insecurities on her that would really fuck her up inside. Take things slow and show her she CAN be with you again with no problems or she will back down for good.
look at it this way, when you become jealous like that and have this huge meltdown all you are doing is bringing her closer to the Scorpio guy and you dont want to do that. You need to relax but at the same time i can see youre upset because you are scared she will do the same to you. You need to forget about the co worker completely and focus on you and her and stop with the fighting and accusing. Forgive yourselves or it will never work out. You dont need a counselor you need to understand that she is not like you she wont cheat on you and it seems to me like she is trying desperately to forgive you, now do you forgive yourself? it doesn't seem like it. You cant reflect your insecurities on her that would really fuck her up inside. Take things slow and show her she CAN be with you again with no problems or she will back down for good.
I called those counselors she sent me with the list of questions she said to ask them and she said to select one based on how I felt about their answers to those questions. The one I picked did not think we should wait until she returned from the trip to get the initial session in. So, lioness agreed to an initial session which was this morning.
One thing lioness said to the therapist was that she felt I have become *extremely protective and territorial* and she didn't understand why i've changed because I wasn't like that during our whole relationship before. She also said that she felt my hostility towards scorpio has escalated *unreasonably* and she doesn't feel like she can predict my behavior anymore and that was a *real* problem.
So the therapist asked each of us what we hoped to achieve from counseling and we both pretty much said the same thing.
She suggested separate one on one counseling once a week each alongside couple counseling once a week. So I'm starting this week, and then lioness and the couple counseling will start when she gets back.
I thought the initial session went as good as expected, but when I took her back to work, she sat there for the longest time and then said that she couldn't *go back in there* and to take her home. So I took her home and she went straight to bed and has been sleeping for a few hours - so now I'm really worried about her because it's not like her to blow off work. So I called her boss and told him she wasn't feeling well and would probably be in tomorrow. He said no problem.
My question is, is this how Leo's normally respond to being over-stressed? The session covered a lot and so maybe it was additional stress that pushed her to her limit?
One thing lioness said to the therapist was that she felt I have become *extremely protective and territorial* and she didn't understand why i've changed because I wasn't like that during our whole relationship before. She also said that she felt my hostility towards scorpio has escalated *unreasonably* and she doesn't feel like she can predict my behavior anymore and that was a *real* problem.
So the therapist asked each of us what we hoped to achieve from counseling and we both pretty much said the same thing.
She suggested separate one on one counseling once a week each alongside couple counseling once a week. So I'm starting this week, and then lioness and the couple counseling will start when she gets back.
I thought the initial session went as good as expected, but when I took her back to work, she sat there for the longest time and then said that she couldn't *go back in there* and to take her home. So I took her home and she went straight to bed and has been sleeping for a few hours - so now I'm really worried about her because it's not like her to blow off work. So I called her boss and told him she wasn't feeling well and would probably be in tomorrow. He said no problem.
My question is, is this how Leo's normally respond to being over-stressed? The session covered a lot and so maybe it was additional stress that pushed her to her limit?
I couldn't even read the whole thing. I am surprised she let it get that far. Have you LOST your mind?
1. Never Mess with a Leo's money and Career. NEVER.
2. Repeat number 1. over and over and over again.
SMDH
You are suffocating her with your insecurities and fucking with her career. I would clawing out of this relationship. Leave her alone.
1. Never Mess with a Leo's money and Career. NEVER.
2. Repeat number 1. over and over and over again.
SMDH
You are suffocating her with your insecurities and fucking with her career. I would clawing out of this relationship. Leave her alone.
She feels drained :/
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