stelleo
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Leo confused by Libra!
CONTINUE😱 Maybe she resents me in silence? She says it's OK to disagree. But then threatens to end the friendship unless I ??accept ??him.
A man who doesn't even belong to her, and she has said so herself! That he's not her man.
Any Leo/Libra friendships with similar issues? I think it's unlikely but hat the heck..
How do you get past something like this and save a friendship?
Is it Libra behavior from her or is she too crazy for astrology to apply?
I'm asking you guys. I fail to see her point . Completely.
A man who doesn't even belong to her, and she has said so herself! That he's not her man.
Any Leo/Libra friendships with similar issues? I think it's unlikely but hat the heck..
How do you get past something like this and save a friendship?
Is it Libra behavior from her or is she too crazy for astrology to apply?
I'm asking you guys. I fail to see her point . Completely.
What's her chart?
I've no chart knowledge I'm afraid. Bd Oct 14th.
It might seem like lying, for the first things you've mentioned because Libras are indecisive and they also are always good at seeing both sides of the picture.
She prob has some fixed aspect to her. Which makes her irrationally make up her mind one minute and change it the next. If I had to guess either a fixed aspect or impulsive aspect like Aries LOL.
The delusional part... I have definitely seen that with Libra women when they get into a relationship. My sister's a Libra/Scorpio cusper and she's married to someone verbally and mentally abusive. I keep telling her to leave him (he's a Taurus) but she refuse to and she sees their relationship is fine even though she calls in the middle of the night all the time every time he treats her bad -_-.
I can see where you're coming from though I've been there. I had two highschool buddies both end up with married men. One is actually getting married with one. Honestly, this is where we have had our falling outs because I can not support them because it goes against my morals.
At the end of the day you have to ask yourself whats more important. Your morals or your friendship? If you end up staying don't do so to protect her. You can not do that, you'll end up creating a strain in your relationship and will cause you more pain than is worth.
She prob has some fixed aspect to her. Which makes her irrationally make up her mind one minute and change it the next. If I had to guess either a fixed aspect or impulsive aspect like Aries LOL.
The delusional part... I have definitely seen that with Libra women when they get into a relationship. My sister's a Libra/Scorpio cusper and she's married to someone verbally and mentally abusive. I keep telling her to leave him (he's a Taurus) but she refuse to and she sees their relationship is fine even though she calls in the middle of the night all the time every time he treats her bad -_-.
I can see where you're coming from though I've been there. I had two highschool buddies both end up with married men. One is actually getting married with one. Honestly, this is where we have had our falling outs because I can not support them because it goes against my morals.
At the end of the day you have to ask yourself whats more important. Your morals or your friendship? If you end up staying don't do so to protect her. You can not do that, you'll end up creating a strain in your relationship and will cause you more pain than is worth.
If morals then cut all ties. But if you do truly value your friendship then I think to be a good friend you'll have to suck it up and just be there for her, and be there when shit hits the fan... a shoulder to cry on etc.
But I COMPLETELY understand your frustration.
I'm sure you just want to shake her and say "what the hell is wrong with you??" Lol.
But I COMPLETELY understand your frustration.
I'm sure you just want to shake her and say "what the hell is wrong with you??" Lol.
I'm sorry to hear that about your sister... However unlikely, I hope she'll wake up one day. Like my friend.
Yea, I've told my friend I don't support her poor judgement at all. But for me, my morals won't stop the friendship. Maybe if she starts messing with more married men. For now I tell myself she's too delusional.
I get you about the protective part, there's already so much strain that any more would break the friendship. I think it's somewhat of a Leo trait to be protective. I just want her to be real with me. I fear she'll get so used to behaving badly that she won't even notice it herself.
Yea, I've told my friend I don't support her poor judgement at all. But for me, my morals won't stop the friendship. Maybe if she starts messing with more married men. For now I tell myself she's too delusional.
I get you about the protective part, there's already so much strain that any more would break the friendship. I think it's somewhat of a Leo trait to be protective. I just want her to be real with me. I fear she'll get so used to behaving badly that she won't even notice it herself.
Posted by xtina
If morals then cut all ties. But if you do truly value your friendship then I think to be a good friend you'll have to suck it up and just be there for her, and be there when shit hits the fan... a shoulder to cry on etc.
But I COMPLETELY understand your frustration.
I'm sure you just want to shake her and say "what the hell is wrong with you??" Lol.
You really understand me! LOL And thanks for the link. 🙂
@stelleo... it's a big hearted person thing. And that is what I have always admired about you Leos, men and women, have gigantic hearts 🙂
@tiz of course 😛
@tiz of course 😛
@stelleo no prob! please do share 😄 I'm curious now
Posted by tiziani
Friendships based on ultimatums? Just sounds like a headache you don't need. Of course, far be it for me to tell a Leo to pay it no mind and move on but that's what I'd do. Just ignore the whole thing and let everyone else decide, like a true Libra 😏
Hmm... Yeah, it sure sounds like a crappy friendship. But what can you do when you value the poor woman? I'd have to try super hard to ignore it though. 😛
Posted by xtina
@stelleo... it's a big hearted person thing. And that is what I have always admired about you Leos, men and women, have gigantic hearts 🙂
@tiz of course 😛
Awww, warms a Leo heart. 🙂
Got this! "She is sometimes indifferent to others..." No kidding! 😛
Zodiac in degrees 0.00
Sun Libra 22.15
Moon Capricorn 2.16
Mercury Scorpio 16.46
Venus Virgo 12.12
Mars Sagittarius 2.17
Jupiter Virgo 27.36
Saturn Libra 2.57
Uranus Scorpio 23.52
Neptune Sagittarius 20.27
Pluto Libra 21.44
Lilith Libra 21.38
Asc node Leo 17.42
Wow, just saw that my Libra friend and I have the same signs in: Moon, Saturn, Neptune and Pluto.
I'm too much of novice to make much sense of it, but maybe that explains why I feel so "at home" with her. Despite the obvious disagreements. 🙂
I'm too much of novice to make much sense of it, but maybe that explains why I feel so "at home" with her. Despite the obvious disagreements. 🙂
Oh wow!
I see it now lol.
Libra sun/ Cap moon Yikes! Thats squared so she's always in conflict with herself. I dunno why but squared aspects are a hit or miss thing either the come out to be very strong secure individuals or very weak insecure individuals... I've never really seen an in between with that. The good thing is she has a nice balance of earth so I think if you don't push it she will eventually come to her sense... I hope LOL.
Scorpio fixed sign and in her mercury which makes sense why you would think she's a liar. Scorpios are secretive, jealous, and possesive plus they are a fixed sign so she is more likely to say something and change her mind and then stick to her guns every time even if she's not completely sure internally. And that's squared with your sun so no wonder you have a lot of disagreements.
I think the best thing to do is just let it be and hopefully she has enough sense to figure it out on her own.
I see it now lol.
Libra sun/ Cap moon Yikes! Thats squared so she's always in conflict with herself. I dunno why but squared aspects are a hit or miss thing either the come out to be very strong secure individuals or very weak insecure individuals... I've never really seen an in between with that. The good thing is she has a nice balance of earth so I think if you don't push it she will eventually come to her sense... I hope LOL.
Scorpio fixed sign and in her mercury which makes sense why you would think she's a liar. Scorpios are secretive, jealous, and possesive plus they are a fixed sign so she is more likely to say something and change her mind and then stick to her guns every time even if she's not completely sure internally. And that's squared with your sun so no wonder you have a lot of disagreements.
I think the best thing to do is just let it be and hopefully she has enough sense to figure it out on her own.
This is a good example of an insanely unbalanced Libra. I've met a few like this and it makes you want to headdesk.
In the instances where she says one thing and then changes to another, it's likely one version is the people pleasing answer/response, and the second is where she got the balls to actually be honest with what she really thinks ....and vice versa.
And yes, it's absolutely textbook that they change their minds and contradict themselves.
In the case of your cheating, moral-less friend, she's just being a dumb bitch who has issues, tbh. I have a coworker who is the same way. She's just straight up selfish and kind of a terrible person.
In the instances where she says one thing and then changes to another, it's likely one version is the people pleasing answer/response, and the second is where she got the balls to actually be honest with what she really thinks ....and vice versa.
And yes, it's absolutely textbook that they change their minds and contradict themselves.
In the case of your cheating, moral-less friend, she's just being a dumb bitch who has issues, tbh. I have a coworker who is the same way. She's just straight up selfish and kind of a terrible person.
@tiz really? I feel like with a mutable sign she'd be more passive.
@rocky good eye... I completely forgot about the people pleasing part... but yes it's true. I've know I do that sometimes automatically say something because I wanted to people please. Libra mooner here!
I really appreciate your thoughts on it! 🙂 She is for sure in conflict with herself! She has said that she feels guilty about what she's doing with that man just as many times as she has said that she doesn't feel any guilt at all. And those are many times...
Posted by tiziani
Did you put in her time of birth or leave it unknown? Because with only 2 degrees in there, she could easily be a Sag Moon. And I was thinking she sounded like a mutable moon right from the start, although I wasn't thinking Sag.
I put the time as unknown, as I really don't know it.
Posted by xtina
@rocky good eye... I completely forgot about the people pleasing part... but yes it's true. I've know I do that sometimes automatically say something because I wanted to people please. Libra mooner here!
Got to love the people pleasing in Libra! 🙂 At the same time it makes me insecure.... How to tell it's for real and not just pleasing for the sake of pleasing? Tricky!
Posted by rockyroadicecream
This is a good example of an insanely unbalanced Libra. I've met a few like this and it makes you want to headdesk.
In the instances where she says one thing and then changes to another, it's likely one version is the people pleasing answer/response, and the second is where she got the balls to actually be honest with what she really thinks ....and vice versa.
And yes, it's absolutely textbook that they change their minds and contradict themselves.
In the case of your cheating, moral-less friend, she's just being a dumb bitch who has issues, tbh. I have a coworker who is the same way. She's just straight up selfish and kind of a terrible person.
Selfish, yes. Extremely naive, yes . Desperate. I've told her those things. She doesn't care. Still she says she's NOT proud of herself... That indicates some sort of insight. Unless.... It's the people pleasing answer.
Posted by tiziani
The people pleasing is always real... for us. It's not so much about whether it's real for the other side or not. We want nothing from people but just the opportunity to impress them or make them happy. It makes us feel good when that happens.
I want to believe that. Maybe I have trust issues... lol
Posted by stelleoPosted by rockyroadicecream
This is a good example of an insanely unbalanced Libra. I've met a few like this and it makes you want to headdesk.
In the instances where she says one thing and then changes to another, it's likely one version is the people pleasing answer/response, and the second is where she got the balls to actually be honest with what she really thinks ....and vice versa.
And yes, it's absolutely textbook that they change their minds and contradict themselves.
In the case of your cheating, moral-less friend, she's just being a dumb bitch who has issues, tbh. I have a coworker who is the same way. She's just straight up selfish and kind of a terrible person.
Selfish, yes. Extremely naive, yes . Desperate. I've told her those things. She doesn't care. Still she says she's NOT proud of herself... That indicates some sort of insight. Unless.... It's the people pleasing answer.click to expand
I think theres some truth to that... she proably isn't proud of herself, maybe even ashamed yet she's so thirsty for love she can't give it up.
Posted by stelleoPosted by tiziani
The people pleasing is always real... for us. It's not so much about whether it's real for the other side or not. We want nothing from people but just the opportunity to impress them or make them happy. It makes us feel good when that happens.
I want to believe that. Maybe I have trust issues... lolclick to expand
Trust issues comes from the fear of getting hurt but as Bob Marley said once... everyone is going to hurt you, you just have to find the ones worth suffering for.
Posted by tiziani
The people pleasing is always real... for us. It's not so much about whether it's real for the other side or not. We want nothing from people but just the opportunity to impress them or make them happy. It makes us feel good when that happens.
+100
Posted by xtina
@rocky good eye... I completely forgot about the people pleasing part... but yes it's true. I've know I do that sometimes automatically say something because I wanted to people please. Libra mooner here!
Small example-
I deal with this with my mom all the time. I have to cook dinner/lunch/whatever since nobody else will. I like to experiment and am constantly asking how she likes whatever I've made. How do you like it? Is it okay?
"Yeah, it's good. 🙂"
So I make it again another time, remembering what she liked. "YOU'RE MAKING THAT?? I DON'T LIKE IT!"
...wtf you said you did!
"I was being polite."
No, you were lying. You need to tell me so I know what not to make in the future!
Needless to say, it's a bitch shopping and cooking for her. If she had her way, she'd eat like shit 24/7. I try to make food that's healthy and tastes good for her gluttonous tastes.
But yeah, that right there, utter people pleasing bullshit. It makes me angry because it's not helping in the long run. I don't care if she dislikes what I make. I need feedback, gawd. :/
I don't trust people pleasers as far as I can throw them, either. They're so caught up in making others happy that they can/will do some fucked up shit for the sake of keeping that pleasing going, even if it includes fucking others over. Sooo not the people you want to surround yourself with. I know I've said it before, but it's true. :/
Posted by xtinaPosted by stelleoPosted by rockyroadicecream
This is a good example of an insanely unbalanced Libra. I've met a few like this and it makes you want to headdesk.
In the instances where she says one thing and then changes to another, it's likely one version is the people pleasing answer/response, and the second is where she got the balls to actually be honest with what she really thinks ....and vice versa.
And yes, it's absolutely textbook that they change their minds and contradict themselves.
In the case of your cheating, moral-less friend, she's just being a dumb bitch who has issues, tbh. I have a coworker who is the same way. She's just straight up selfish and kind of a terrible person.
Selfish, yes. Extremely naive, yes . Desperate. I've told her those things. She doesn't care. Still she says she's NOT proud of herself... That indicates some sort of insight. Unless.... It's the people pleasing answer.
I think theres some truth to that... she proably isn't proud of herself, maybe even ashamed yet she's so thirsty for love she can't give it up.click to expand
It's the insecurity that keeps her driven to do something so self destructive. My mom did a lot of dumb shit in regard to my dad when we were growing up. Women do idiotic things for the sake of love/their guy. When you have insecurity rooted in an individual, it leaves a lot of room for some stupid, stupid decision making.
Everyone is blinded by love at some point, but some people are just permanently stuck there.
Posted by rockyroadicecreamPosted by xtina
@rocky good eye... I completely forgot about the people pleasing part... but yes it's true. I've know I do that sometimes automatically say something because I wanted to people please. Libra mooner here!
Small example-
I deal with this with my mom all the time. I have to cook dinner/lunch/whatever since nobody else will. I like to experiment and am constantly asking how she likes whatever I've made. How do you like it? Is it okay?
"Yeah, it's good. 🙂"
So I make it again another time, remembering what she liked. "YOU'RE MAKING THAT?? I DON'T LIKE IT!"
...wtf you said you did!
"I was being polite."
No, you were lying. You need to tell me so I know what not to make in the future!
Needless to say, it's a bitch shopping and cooking for her. If she had her way, she'd eat like shit 24/7. I try to make food that's healthy and tastes good for her gluttonous tastes.
But yeah, that right there, utter people pleasing bullshit. It makes me angry because it's not helping in the long run. I don't care if she dislikes what I make. I need feedback, gawd. :/
I don't trust people pleasers as far as I can throw them, either. They're so caught up in making others happy that they can/will do some fucked up shit for the sake of keeping that pleasing going, even if it includes fucking others over. Sooo not the people you want to surround yourself with. I know I've said it before, but it's true. :/click to expand
HAHA... I use to be like your mom except instead I would suck it up and eat it and say I wasn't very hungry LOL.
But now my response for everything is a noncommital... mmeeeehhh and all my friends are like *roll their eyes* "okay so you don't like it"... for me it use to be because I felt if I gave a negative response people would stop doing nice things for me. In the case of your mother it just sounds like shes not even trying /: ... sorry about that.
LOL, I don't know the impulse to not be mean is strong in me.
^^which clashes a lot with my stubborness LOL
Posted by rockyroadicecreamPosted by xtinaPosted by stelleoPosted by rockyroadicecream
This is a good example of an insanely unbalanced Libra. I've met a few like this and it makes you want to headdesk.
In the instances where she says one thing and then changes to another, it's likely one version is the people pleasing answer/response, and the second is where she got the balls to actually be honest with what she really thinks ....and vice versa.
And yes, it's absolutely textbook that they change their minds and contradict themselves.
In the case of your cheating, moral-less friend, she's just being a dumb bitch who has issues, tbh. I have a coworker who is the same way. She's just straight up selfish and kind of a terrible person.
Selfish, yes. Extremely naive, yes . Desperate. I've told her those things. She doesn't care. Still she says she's NOT proud of herself... That indicates some sort of insight. Unless.... It's the people pleasing answer.
I think theres some truth to that... she proably isn't proud of herself, maybe even ashamed yet she's so thirsty for love she can't give it up.
It's the insecurity that keeps her driven to do something so self destructive. My mom did a lot of dumb shit in regard to my dad when we were growing up. Women do idiotic things for the sake of love/their guy. When you have insecurity rooted in an individual, it leaves a lot of room for some stupid, stupid decision making.
Everyone is blinded by love at some point, but some people are just permanently stuck there.click to expand
+10000
it's sad really. They get so deluded they make excuses for everything and when presented with the truth they think your, for some reason, attacking their character when you're just stating the truth.
I think where a lot of this indecisiveness comes from for Libras is the people pleasing aspect and at the same time their need for balance and fairness.
Libras are social butterflys, they thrive from it, that's why the need to please is so strong, it does feel really good for them and me to be completely accepted and well liked. Probably stemming from a feeling of inadequacy... like if I don't try to make these people happy they won't like me. But then that clashes with their need for balance and looking at both sides of the picture sometimes especially if the people pleasing comes in conflict with that need for balance.
Where you get the whole Libras are "fake" when really they're just trying to find a balance between their wants and needs.
Libras are social butterflys, they thrive from it, that's why the need to please is so strong, it does feel really good for them and me to be completely accepted and well liked. Probably stemming from a feeling of inadequacy... like if I don't try to make these people happy they won't like me. But then that clashes with their need for balance and looking at both sides of the picture sometimes especially if the people pleasing comes in conflict with that need for balance.
Where you get the whole Libras are "fake" when really they're just trying to find a balance between their wants and needs.
@rocky... I can totally recognize your mom's behavior in my friend.
@xtina Exactly!!! Although "my" Libra only sees her side of the picture. About her being someone's mistress...
I try to open her eyes, she goes into defense mode. Sarcastic remarks about how I think I'm a better person than she is. She's missing my points by a mile!!
I want the best for her. Does she really not know my intention?
No matter how selfish she is, I can't help but to think that beneath the selfishness, beneath the insecurities that destroys her, is an amazing person.
I have known her. I have known her sense of justice. I have known her compassion. I have known her value.
@xtina Exactly!!! Although "my" Libra only sees her side of the picture. About her being someone's mistress...
I try to open her eyes, she goes into defense mode. Sarcastic remarks about how I think I'm a better person than she is. She's missing my points by a mile!!
I want the best for her. Does she really not know my intention?
No matter how selfish she is, I can't help but to think that beneath the selfishness, beneath the insecurities that destroys her, is an amazing person.
I have known her. I have known her sense of justice. I have known her compassion. I have known her value.
@stelleo if you care or value her as you say you do you'll leave her alone. I'm sure she's dealing with enough and you don't seem to help at all
Posted by Sugarfoot
It was interesting to read the story then, see the chart then see how it all relates.
My ex BFF was libra sun cancer moon. Squared sun and moon and she was most definitely in conflict with herself. She had a goal in mind for her personal life but went totally bass ackwards towards getting it. The biggest thing was that she totally lacked any self awareness. She could not see herself and her actions with any clarity. In complete denial about her shyt, and therefore had no hopes of improving. And, if you dared call her on it, you're the bad guy. Ugh.
Good luck with your squared friend. Smh
Thanks, I do need some luck. The worst thing is that she sees me as the bad guy. I wonder if she truly doesn't understand, or if she's too stubborn to admit that there's truth to what I'm telling her.
Posted by size zero superheroPosted by stelleo
Do you suppose she expects your validation if you finally see that he's not a complete douche or creepshow?
LOL. I'm trying to understand the motive behind your friend's proposal to introduce you and her married friend with benefits...and I genuinely don't get it.click to expand
Yes, she tries to convince me that he's a "great guy". Not so much to his wife and kids. And he tells the standard bs: His wife doesn't treat him well. He's getting a divorce. It's another topic, but so what if he got a divorce? Would Libra live happily in denial? Seems like it, but then she also doesn't mind if he stays married... UGH!!
Posted by Librapride18
@stelleo if you care or value her as you say you do you'll leave her alone. I'm sure she's dealing with enough and you don't seem to help at all
She doesn't "deal" with anything. She's all loved up in her dream world. She's basically bragging about being a homewrecker...
She doesn't suffer, "her" man is crazy about her and is amazing. She'll suffer I'm sure. When he has wasted months/years of her life. I want her to open her eyes. Now.
@Sugarfoot Thanks for your insightful words, and for understanding my point in not being supportive of her current poor judgement.
Posted by xtinafor me it use to be because I felt if I gave a negative response people would stop doing nice things for me. In the case of your mother it just sounds like shes not even trying /: ... sorry about that.
But see how self absorbed that comes off as? "I'm going to pretend to be nice because they won't do nice things for me anymore if I do." You aren't sparing their feelings for the sake of their feelings, you're "sparing" them so you can continue to benefit from their actions.
Nothing wrong with being honest when it comes to stuff like that. But personally, I really dislike it when people lie to me like that. I want to know so I can better improve whatever I'm doing/myself. Sometimes the truth sucks, but in the long run, it's far more beneficial than lying.
Posted by size zero superhero
LOL. I'm trying to understand the motive behind your friend's proposal to introduce you and her married friend with benefits...and I genuinely don't get it.click to expand
Me neither. I'm convinced some people are just THAT socially retarded and self centered. Obliviousness is what they thrive in. :/
In the last year or so, I've met some individuals like that that just leave me...so stumped.
In this chick's case, the guy makes her feel worthy or some bs because he's lavishing her with attention and dick, so she wants to show off someone who's making her feel like a princess (temporarily). I think there's a lot of ego going on here.
Posted by Sugarfoot
Idk how much this has to do with people pleasing. I think it has more to do with the strong impulse in libras to not be alone. A lack of discrimination can be a huge problem. Depending on the current mental and emotional state, libras can be extremely guilty of falling for whoever shows them some attention and affection. Measures of appropriateness and compatibility be damned.
+543758943
Desperation makes people do some insane things.
Posted by Librapride18
@stelleo if you care or value her as you say you do you'll leave her alone. I'm sure she's dealing with enough and you don't seem to help at allclick to expand
You know, we had a thread in the relationships forum or something about a situation much like this one. The friend was not thrilled her friend was dating a guy who was involved (marriage, whatever), and some of the feedback... are people really that freaking retarded?
"NOT YOUR PROBLEM, STAY OUT OF IT!!"
...guilt by association, you lame shit mother effers. I mean really? That whole passive approach is what's wrong with society. It's why so much effed up stuff happens anymore- hands are thrown up and "not my problem" is uttered and nothing is done. People do not know consequences to bad behavior anymore. What this chick (and the other in that thread) are doing clearly makes a friend uncomfortable and it WILL reap consequences of possibly losing a friend, sorry. If you have a friend doing something you find morally out of line, chances are that the friendship will be strained and possibly end. Nobody wants to be friends with someone who's off doing morally questionable things. Besides, it's only a matter of time before they do the same to you.
How someone treats others should be a huge eye opener in how they would possibly treat you. I had to step back from a Scorp friend recently because his behavior was a real eye opener. Still friends, but I've distanced myself a bit. I don't have time to be treated like that by someone who's so self absorbed. You have to learn how to deal with individuals like that and being a major dipshit by saying "oh back off, the poor baby has issues" does not justify openly cheating.
You're an enabler and a loser for stating that, LP18. You should be ashamed of yourself.
@rockyroad... You hit the nail on the head. Sorry about your Scorpio, I can't help but to have hope for those individuals. Maybe some day, when "what goes around comes around" really does come around and kick them off the path of destruction. Well, it's just a hope...
Well in my experience, individuals like that eventually may have an "awakening" and realize that they've been assholes. But that's because deep down, they truly are good/okay people. They're just a tad oblivious, you know?
Some are truly lost causes. Some just... have no place in your life in the current time frame because they clearly are not at a level where their presence is to be considered, tbh.
Some are truly lost causes. Some just... have no place in your life in the current time frame because they clearly are not at a level where their presence is to be considered, tbh.
True. It sucks when you thought you knew someone and... STAB! Like a knife through the heart, realizing that you didn't know her.
I'll wait it out. What if her married fuucker ends up divorcing and they start a life together... My decision wouldn't be so easy then. Time will tell.
I'll wait it out. What if her married fuucker ends up divorcing and they start a life together... My decision wouldn't be so easy then. Time will tell.
@size zero... You're right about my reasons for thinking the way I do about my friend.
Posted by Lust
Hello,
I, my self confuse of some of my Leo friends. They seems always want to help people who don't really need help. Also they are magnet to people who are in a mess situation or people who has dysfunctional thought process.
Don't get me wrong, I like to help people when they ask for it, BUT not getting work up & let other consume me with their problem.
So anyway, maybe it's time for you to find a new friend who is fulfilling_—
Hmmm... But she is fulfilling! When her poor judgement doesn't consume me. I get what you're saying, I know it's healthy to take a look at yourself once in a while. I know I have to put an end to our arguments for sure, but I don't want it to cost our friendship the way she seem to want.
Posted by Lust
O,, yeah,, one more thing: I am a proud libra girl??_??_'??_
That makes your thoughts the more valuable to me. If you were my friend, you'd feel suffocated by me, or?
Would you want to end a friendship if your friend showed too much concern for you?
Sorry, don't take this persona, Lust. 🙂 I just want a deeper understanding.
I learned quickly that libra is very different from leo in the way we express and give emotional things. Or maybe it's just her and me.
Sometimes she LAUGHS at me when I've been dead serious and talked about emotional stuff. I've never seen any sadness or anger in her. And now she lacks empathy too! It's always happy, happy with her. And I love that, but why hide parts of yourself?
@Lust I appreciate your reply! I'll try my hardest to not be overbearing for my libra. What scares me is that I'll lose her out of her own will... She seems to refuse to accept that I won't accept "her" man, who happens to be someone's husband.
I've never felt that I have judged her. I disagree with her decision 100% , but to me that's not the same as judging.
I've never felt that I have judged her. I disagree with her decision 100% , but to me that's not the same as judging.
Posted by rockyroadicecreamPosted by xtinafor me it use to be because I felt if I gave a negative response people would stop doing nice things for me. In the case of your mother it just sounds like shes not even trying /: ... sorry about that.
But see how self absorbed that comes off as? "I'm going to pretend to be nice because they won't do nice things for me anymore if I do." You aren't sparing their feelings for the sake of their feelings, you're "sparing" them so you can continue to benefit from their actions.
Nothing wrong with being honest when it comes to stuff like that. But personally, I really dislike it when people lie to me like that. I want to know so I can better improve whatever I'm doing/myself. Sometimes the truth sucks, but in the long run, it's far more beneficial than lying.
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Yup, yup I know it is... selfish actually... Proabably why the majority of my friends are detached air signs or have a lot of air in their chart. But I think to an extent everyone is a little self absorbed. Without it you will always be giving without getting anything in return. Finding that even balance of giving yourself enough time and giving time to others is the difficulty.
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Idk how much this has to do with people pleasing. I think it has more to do with the strong impulse in libras to not be alone. A lack of discrimination can be a huge problem. Depending on the current mental and emotional state, libras can be extremely guilty of falling for whoever shows them some attention and affection. Measures of appropriateness and compatibility be damned.
This is true but I think this is true in a lot of people not just Libras... we as humans are social creatures and a lot can not handle the aspect of being alone, why do you think people put up with shitty relationships? Friendly or not? Why do you think a lot of people cling to the supernatural and idea of life out? The idea of being alone is a daunting thought to many human beings, not just a Libra aspect... there is a reason we've congregated into large massive societies it part of our DNA. Trust me, there are plenty of other animals that are creatures that are solely independent and don' rely on, or may never encounter in their lives, another creature of the same species. We humans are social creatures based on the fact that we've survived 170,000 years this way.
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Sorry for a long post, but I??ll try to explain.
As much as I love(d) our friendship, I??ve been forever confused by my Libra pal. I never know if she's lying about things, or if she changes her mind. A lot. I'm Leo. She puzzles me.
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