Libra man -Is he reliable?

I went out with a Libra man on Sunday. We had a great time, he asked me out again during the date, and he called to make sure that I got home safely.
He also said that he would call me the next day (Monday.) He did not call Monday, he texted me Tuesday and said that he would talk to me later. He did not call Tuesday. Finally, he called yesterday. I was in a spin class, so I did not pick up.

He's almost 15 years older then me. I'm 36, he is 49. I would expect a mature guy to keep his word. Being a Taurus who needs to feel secure and being very sensitive (Moon in Pisces) I'm still debating if I should call him back. I really think that if a guy is really interested in a woman, he would keep his word.

Even though there are many guys interested in me, I do not have chemistry with many guys. I feel very attracted to him and I think that he is an amazing guy. We both love many the same things.

I cannot really read Libras. Sometimes I think that they say one think and mean something else. I'm a very genuine and sincere person.

Are Libras reliable?

In my experience, no, but they are also indecisive. however they are very easy to get along with and the best "team players". libras value "fairness" so try to appeal to that if you are having a rough time communicating with him.

i dont think you should read much into it - maybe when he called you he would have apologized and told you why he couldn't call. it's only the beginning of your interactions so cut a little slack and try to be patient. i would explain to him you couldn't pick up because you were in a spinning class, he will understand.

the less "games" involved between people the better, if only for the simple fact that communication (as opposed to manipulation) is key to a relationship

I do need a reliable man. Especially if I am going to be with an older guy, I would expect him to be mature, reliable, and stable. If I wanted someone who is not reliable I could date a gorgeous 28 years old.

How indecisive are Libras? People sometimes think that I'm indecisive, I do know what I want, but it changes often according to my mood.

I was involved and dated many Pisces, so I used to indecisive people. But I can read Pisces easily.
People say that Aquariuses are also indecisive. For some strange reason I attract many Aqua guys and they are always very decisive with me.

By the way, I texted him and wrote that I could not pick up phone because I was in a spinning class. He responded right away and asked me out next Wednesday. He said that his cousin is getting married this weekend, so he would like to meet me on Wed.

Are you a Libra?

That's it? He doesn't return phone calls when he said he would? You're going to say he's unreliable on the basis of that...if he made plans with you, and then cancels on the last minute, then I would be right with you, but phone calls? I wouldn't sweat it, if it makes you feel bad, ask him about it, tell how good it would make you feel to hear from him..or make plans with him, and when ya'll in person bring it up in the fashion that like hearing his voice..bet you he would more than happy to accommodate..or maybe he's about as busy as you.

Either way, I dont think this is that big of a deal. Especially in the dating stage.

I am an older libra male (cusp of scorpio).
We get a bad rap. I am very decisive, reliable,
and not a cheater. I have empathy for others....
However...I do have a low tolerance for stupidity,
violent behavior, rudeness, cheap-asses,
and low-class, uneducated, big-mouth treetrunkers in general.

Young Libras are attracted to beauty, perhaps more
than any other sign..so even after all the analysis, we are still
prone to making bad choices..and when the true person finally
emerges we run like hell.

It's really a matter of growing up for Libras.
Then we are really good mates.

good luck!

Posted by Pecheresse
I'd say no.

nice generalization.
i have a libra male friend, an aerospace engineer,
with two happy daughters, who has been married 35 years.
i'll be sure to tell him he's unreliable.

Not got much experience with older libra's but me personally I would say am VERY reliable when it matters. I hardly ever return calls and I do often flake on stuff or rearrange or turn up late or completely forget but if you need somene to pick you up from the airport at 5am in the morning then you can count on me even though you may have to remind me an hour before that i'm meant to be doing it lol. There could be a million reasons why he wasnt able to call the day he said he would. I personally no longer give people days/times that I will contact them because it NEVER happens. I try to stick more with things like "i'll be in touch at some point in the week" or "i'll see you around 6ish". My behaviour does seem to drive some people crazy and being an earth sign then you probably would be one of the ones who finds this behaviour annoying.

The question is are you able to cope with ths kind of behaviour because it isnt usually something that a person can change.

So I guess talking to me and keeping his words did not matter to him. I could accept him not calling when he said he would as long as it is not an indication of lack of interests. Changing and rearranging plans are fine if a person has a good reason to do it. I'm very busy with my life. I have full time job, commute 1 hour each way to work every day, I'm training for a triathlon ( which is like a second job time wise) and have many many more interests and passions that I tried to find time for. I also have many friends that I make plans with in advance, so It is not easy to re-arrange things for me. If someone wants to re-arrange thing just because he simply forgot about it or has something else to do, It would probably drive me crazy.

If I''m really into guy I can make time for him. I feel that guys are the same.

Thanks for your response. I see that Scorpio's influence gave you some good qualities lol Having mostly Scorpios friends and being able to have their loyalty and support I'm a bit biased.

I hope my older Libra guy has already grown up. Many guys ask me out, but I do not meet many men that I have chemistry with. I do have incredible chemistry with this older Libra. We also have many more things in common. We are both very athletic and love tennis. We are also into theater, travel, mountains, and healthy life style .

I hope it will work out, but he has to learn how to keep his word.

LOL...wow, okay...was Sunday your first date? So would Wednesday be your second date?

I don't really subscribe to the older guy/younger girl dynamic after age 30..you're 35 , whether he's 15 years or 5 years, ya'll are both grown. Chill out, you are in no position to determine a person as unreliable...you guys are not in a relationship, you are just dating. I understand that you like him and that you want to see more of him, but you are going to project a very 'needy' vibe that's going to drive him (and most guys ) away if you make a big deal of this. I understand you have standards and you don't want to waste your time but one, it's WAY too early to say anything and two, those are the breaks of dating, sometimes you'll like someone a bit more than they like you. You could look at a chart and those aspects can be very apparent, it sucks but don't sweat it..you have a life right? He doesn't need to be a priority and you shouldn't feel that he has to make you a priority. If you guys were dating for a couple of months...THEN i'd be right along with you, but the first week? Chill...

It's not that we dont think, just that we think diferently haha. I prefer to call it unorganized rather then unreliable 🙂 but I would always warn people that THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE, its not the sort of thing that you can work on later on in the relationship, my grandma is a 69 year old Libra and we still have to ring her to see why she is not in when she is the one who invited us round for dinner lol. If you need organization/reliability then prob best to find yourself a virgo 😛 who I must admit drive me crazy because they are so anal compared to me, just differnt strokes for different folks I suppose!

That is us trying! haha! I try a million times a day but it will never stick. Just fall back into the same old ways eventually and then people get annoyd all over again. With me people have accepted how I am and know that its nothing personal, those who cant accept it tend to not make plans with me which is fair enough. It is never a conscious decision for me to let someone down, it just kind of hppens no matter how good m intentions are.

To OP have you talked to him about his behaviour? Because maybe then he will tell you that it isnt personal if thats what you need to hear from him. Or maybe he will sa he's not that interested but either way you will know where you stand. But like I said this behaviour isnt likel to change even if you are the love of his life! but then again theres always an exception 🙂

I don't agree with that, the only time where I'm 'unreliable' is when I have too much on my plate, when I have said 'yes' to like ten million things all trying to keep everybody happy and as much as I try, maybe one or two things fall through.

Unorganized is right...sometimes it's an issue of self-control and not being able to say no. And then when we can't balence it all and it all falls apart, people start coming at us like we don't care or that we're flakes..which really hurts when it's your loved ones telling you this.

Pisces are dingbats too... so most of the "dingbat" Libra traits don't BOTHER me like they would bother.. saaaaaay.. a Scorpio... or their opposite Aries :p

If that kind of stuff bothers you, date people who are more "solid" and "reliable" and never get busy or forget to call.. like.. fuck, wait.. we're talking GUYS here, right? Y'all are fucked. :p You can't CHANGE anyone.. if they're FLAKY.. bitching about it isn't gonna make them less flaky, just more resentful. YOU CHOOSE who you let into your life, and how important you allow them to become to you. If he's not a good fit, let him go.

And yes, first week of dating and he doesn't call the day he said he would.. but lets you know later? Umm.. maybe it's cuz I'm a friggin' dingbat.. but what's the problem here? So he got busy/forgetful or had to bail his brother out of jail or something personal and private he doesn't feel comfy sharing with a relative stranger he went out with two times..

Iunno.. maybe I'm missing something here. Maybe some people just aren't suited to accept certain common Libra traits.. nothing wrong with that.. just throw back the stunted specimens and fish up another one, one more suited to your personality and in line with what you want and need in a relationship.

This thread is funny because I personally know several taurus men that were extremely flaky when it came to returning phone calls...the first one I dated he would straight up leave me before I had a chance to come over..wouldn't call me to tell me where he was, wouldn't leave a note..and he'd rarely answer my calls..I just took it as a hint that he wasn't interested.

Now my husband and I on the other hand, when we dated, he didn't call that often ethier, and the first couple of times we had to reschedule dates because we both had things coming up, but it didn't strike me that he wasn't interested because he WOULD call..even now..we still get into mini arguements about phone calls..he'll get upset that I wouldn't return his call when he knows I don't have my phone on me at work. And despite that I tell him incessantly what time I get off, and he ALWAYS comes late(doesn't matter if it's four in the morning or int he afternoon..he's rarely ontime). And as much as he gets on me about how 'flaky' i am about communication, I can probably count the number of times on my hand that he would actually answer his phone on the first couple of rings.

Anyway, I just accepted that is the way he is, and chose my battles accordingly..I suggest you do the same..or give him some slack because YOU GUYS ARE NOT IN A RELATIONSHIP YET!

Oh and OP, despite that he(my husband) is unreliable in communication, doesn't make HIM an unreliable person, he's always ON it when it came to making money, or know when I'm upset or apologize when he was in the wrong. He always down to helping his family, or his friends and he's through when he can get to it..he probably can juggle multiple things at once better than I could and I'm a Libra (multi-tasking is my specialty). So again...it's a little early to be making judgments, and this could just be a small inconsistency that doesn't reflect the 'whole' of a person.

I know he's a taurus and not a libra, but I think that goes for most men.

re: initial post

no

Oh and just throwing something out there...Libras are only unreliable to people that we are comfortable with letting some things slide..and people that we're don't find 'as important' as other priorities. Exception is if you articulate that it means something to you, than we'll accomodate accordingly. Or, if it means a lot to you that we get there on time, we will get there on time.

Job, we have to make it on time(don't want to get fired)...children? they come first...friends? depending how close I am to you, or what time/energy I have left over, I'll try my best but please don't be mad if I don't follow thru, unless I make a firm commitment or i'm able to schedule you in.

my personal experience (lots of them) found libras shy away when things get difficult

Posted by zeoblade
my personal experience (lots of them) found libras shy away when things get difficult

Sometimes we believe that leaving is the best 'fix' to a situation, sometimes it's to reassess and come back, sometimes it's the frustration that one can't do 'well' in this respect that makes us insecure thereby we'll just find a situation that we 'can' fix.

Mind you, we're air signs, and we're in between gemini's that are the perfect balence of action/thought...and aquarius that are 'all thought'. We're right in between, we can't think and act on the fly as well as a gemini can, and we can't completely remove ourselves and think objectively as well as an aquarius..we have to do these one at a time...first I think, then I act...if I can't figure a way to act, I'll take a step back, regroup..and then try again, if that doesn't work, I'll take another step back..etc.

And define 'difficult'...if someone is yelling at me that I'm a horrible person, but gives me no feedback as to why..or what i can do to change this..what the hell do you expect someone to do? Take it? Just sit there and listen to that person vent..no, I'm going to leave that person alone or find a person that doesn't think I'm a horrible person...sure things get difficult but in some respects, does it HAVE to be difficult. If the road is difficult does it HAVE to be, or does it mean i'm on the wrong path? We aren't talking about something difficult where we it's unpleasant but there's a end in sight, we're talking about a situation where hindsight isn't apparent to us. Or we can't determine where this is going..for younger libras, maybe they don't have a larger scope of figuring things out, but for older libras, we can determine which is 'worth' working through and which is wasted energy.

In YOUR terms, as a virgo..I want to be in a place where I'm most useful, If I find myself in a place where I'm idle..or I can't do anything, what can I do?...that makes me personally feel inadequate. I don't like feeling inadequate. To you, it looks cowardly, to me, it's self preservation because if you actually force me in a situation that backs me in a corner, you will see a mental breakdown, trust.

Posted by TheBeautifulStruggle

Sometimes we believe that leaving is the best 'fix' to a situation, sometimes it's to reassess and come back, sometimes it's the frustration that one can't do 'well' in this respect that makes us insecure thereby we'll just find a situation that we 'can' fix.

Mind you, we're air signs, and we're in between gemini's that are the perfect balence of action/thought...and aquarius that are 'all thought'. We're right in between, we can't think and act on the fly as well as a gemini can, and we can't completely remove ourselves and think objectively as well as an aquarius..we have to do these one at a time...first I think, then I act...if I can't figure a way to act, I'll take a step back, regroup..and then try again, if that doesn't work, I'll take another step back..etc.

And define 'difficult'...if someone is yelling at me that I'm a horrible person, but gives me no feedback as to why..or what i can do to change this..what the hell do you expect someone to do? Take it? Just sit there and listen to that person vent..no, I'm going to leave that person alone or find a person that doesn't think I'm a horrible person...sure things get difficult but in some respects, does it HAVE to be difficult. If the road is difficult does it HAVE to be, or does it mean i'm on the wrong path? We aren't talking about something difficult where we it's unpleasant but there's a end in sight, we're talking about a situation where hindsight isn't apparent to us. Or we can't determine where this is going..for younger libras, maybe they don't have a larger scope of figuring things out, but for older libras, we can determine which is 'worth' working through and which is wasted energy.

In YOUR terms, as a virgo..I want to be in a place where I'm most useful, If I find myself in a place where I'm idle..or I can't do anything, what can I do?...that makes me personally feel inadequate. I don't like feeling inadequate. To you, it looks cowardly, to me, it's self preservation because if you actually force me in a situation that backs me in a corner, you will see a mental breakdown, trust.

if the road was easy, what is the point in taking it? (non-rhetorical question)

the rest i will put in the lashing out thread, i feel thats more relevant

Posted by zeoblade


if the road was easy, what is the point in taking it? (non-rhetorical question)

the rest i will put in the lashing out thread, i feel thats more relevant

Define 'easy'...are you saying if a relationship is too easy, you wouldn't think the relationship is worth anything? Or if a situation is too easy, it isn't worth doing?

I know I stated the difference between something being difficult as in a challenge, and "difficult for the sake of being difficult." the latter is what i'm referring to in my post.

easy means you dont build anything together, thats boring

difficult means making effort to build and share life together

but other than love, why would you do something that you already know you can do? its like boxing with someone thats inferior to you, whats the point?

Posted by zeoblade
easy means you dont build anything together, thats boring

difficult means making effort to build and share life together

but other than love, why would you do something that you already know you can do? its like boxing with someone thats inferior to you, whats the point?

You do realize that, that's an opinion right, a relative one at that? Why would I do something I already can do? because I love doing it? because it's effective? because it will free me up to do other things...

why boxing with someone that's inferior to you? Because I want to help that person be a better boxer? because I love to share my desire of boxing with others? because when he gets better, than I will eventually have to step up because I will facilitate creating a 'better opponent.'?

Easy doesn't always translate to 'boring' and difficult isn't always 'worth the effort.'

Posted by TheBeautifulStruggle


You do realize that, that's an opinion right, a relative one at that? Why would I do something I already can do? because I love doing it? because it's effective? because it will free me up to do other things...

why boxing with someone that's inferior to you? Because I want to help that person be a better boxer? because I love to share my desire of boxing with others? because when he gets better, than I will eventually have to step up because I will facilitate creating a 'better opponent.'?

Easy doesn't always translate to 'boring' and difficult isn't always 'worth the effort.'

its definitely an opinion, i wouldnt share with you my opinion if i wasnt seeking yours to better understand the sense of reliability of a libra

of course its effective if you keep doing something you know you are good at, but how can you tackle more difficult problems? how can you increase your capacity?

same as boxing, your progress increases so slowly, you decelerate. of course you help out your team and improve their boxing, but there are so many people superior to you. people that spend too much time with inferior people arent able to overcome stronger people. teaching is fine but picking your opponent for a match just for the sake of improving your record is pretty weak

difficult is definitely worth the effort. maybe that is the difference in our opinion. maybe you believe the destination is important, goal focused. i believe the journey, the struggle is more important

how this relates to libra and reliability, maybe this does explain why the libra in my life dont show any reliability. maybe they arent in control of their element? what do you think?

seriously, what do you think you could accomplish here let alone prove a point if at all? i'm just waiting for her opinion, whats it got to do with you? you talk like a fool

who's attention are you seeking? why dont you send them a private message? what about create a thread and call it 'pay attention to me because i'm lonely'

or do you actually have something relevant to contribute? maybe my suggestions would appeal to your nature

otherwise is there anything serious you want to address? what exactly do you want to accomplish?

of course i worry about you, if you're a fool its best if i put you on ignore. why bother with an attention seeking fool? whats the benefit for me?

fool, to pass the time? you are sad, i pity you but your weakness gives me this dirty feeling if i put myself in your shoes, begone!

Posted by zeoblade
seriously, what do you think you could accomplish here let alone prove a point if at all? i'm just waiting for her opinion, whats it got to do with you? you talk like a fool

You aren't waiting for my opinion, you're waiting for me to tell you something you want to hear.

Posted by TheBeautifulStruggle

Posted by zeoblade
seriously, what do you think you could accomplish here let alone prove a point if at all? i'm just waiting for her opinion, whats it got to do with you? you talk like a fool

You aren't waiting for my opinion, you're waiting for me to tell you something you want to hear.

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i'm just trying to see if there is a similarity with the libra that are in my life. thats why i wait your opinion so i can accept or reject their behaviour as libra or not. but back to the question - what is your opinion about the situation i gave you before?

Posted by Liberal777Libra

Young Libras are attracted to beauty, perhaps more
than any other sign..so even after all the analysis, we are still
prone to making bad choices..and when the true person finally
emerges we run like hell.

It's really a matter of growing up for Libras.
Then we are really good mates.

I totally agree with you. The younger/immature/insecure libras give the mature/grown-up/reliable Libra males a very bad reputation. There are 2 types of libra from what I've read about them. There's the young ones who are immature, superficial and have a fear of commitment, which results in them either cheating or stringing people along. The young libra also has a low self-esteem. He/she thinks they're not attractive, and constantly jump from one relatioship to the next to seek approval/ego boost. Mind you, this is all that I've read on the young and immature libra who has yet to grow up. I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule, the young libras who aren't like that. The mature/older libra is usually the opposite of the younger because he's learned from his past mistakes.

When astrology compares and contrasts between young and old libra, that's not necessarily referring to the age factor because maturity has nothing to do with age. It has to do with mental maturity.

Posted by LibraLuv

Posted by zeoblade
who's attention are you seeking? why dont you send them a private message? what about create a thread and call it 'pay attention to me because i'm lonely'

or do you actually have something relevant to contribute? maybe my suggestions would appeal to your nature

otherwise is there anything serious you want to address? what exactly do you want to accomplish?

Damn...I get bad vibes coming from you...It appears as if you are in the mode of "attack all air signs"...Let me see if you've been on the Aqua board.

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you imagine too much