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I think so Hurt-Heart.....just keep it as friends though or you'll be on that rollercoaster ride forever!!!

Its when they don't call when you want to be friends and they don't want/can't that hurts more.

Just keep your distance until your emotions are gone...THEN you can be friends and only that. Waiting until his kids grow up?? that's crazy..if you love somebody you won't make them wait for this and that.

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From all these happenings here going on between leo girl and Libra man, it can be observed that libra turns cold after the initial encounter and its more or less a pattern. As you can read from any other zodiac section, its almost the same when a gemini girl chases a leo man or an aries girl chasing a gemini man and libra girl chasing a saggi man and saggi girl chasing an aqua man.

There is something which attracts them to this man but the man finds something missing in the women. I think its worth noticing that its can cause serious hurt and try to avoid jumping into such a relationship.
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Just looked up my moon sign, I'm Libra moon...Maybe this is why I feel some connection to the Libra man...I'm Leo sun but I feel like I have some quailities of Leo but not a lot...
I am more introverted than some leos that I know..And i analyse everything till I drive my self crazy..My friends always tell me that I pick apart a relationship and sabatoge it, they think i'm commitment shy, but I just think I haven't met the right person...

I believe his moon is taurus...
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hurt-heart unless he can give you total commitment I would most definitely walk away for now.....I had a very similar experience, the pulling in, the pulling away thing over and over and over again. He will continue to do this until he is READY.

Do you really want to hold somebody's hand through all his insecurities rather than enjoy a real full on relationship where BOTH of you are on the same page??

Dont do this to yourself!!
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"He told me if we see each other again he would tell me if he's gets scared so we work it through....and he said he will never treat me like he did again..."

I heard that so many times too!!! We were meant to be "exclusive", he introduced me to some of his friends as "his girl".....not once though, did he treat me like that...as soon as he said those things he did the disappearing act for a week or so.

Leo and Libra I belive can work amazingly if both are ready but when a LIbra is undecided/scared/unbalanced? I'd not bother and move on with my life.

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I dont know about the libra man..hes supposed to be charming and WONDERFUL!!! haaha
But now that he knows your "emotional" maybe its best to bot reveal so much to him. the question is
CAN HE BE TRUSTED? Esp. with your fragile emotions...

If not, then simply try to not reveal them and move on...

Although I have heard it is hard to move away from libra men..I've never sank my teeth into one

*RARARWAARR
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HH, the conversation you had with him clearly shows, his desire is to have a life of his own, being emotionally able to handle a possible relationship, but HE isn't allowing himself to. Librans LOVE their children and if they don't have a strong partner or ex-partner then they feel guilty that they have to be there for the kids. Trust I know, my ex husband is a Libra and he wouldn't move on for a very long time after I would repeatedly assure him we would never be together again. Finally he has, but I on the other hand am a very strong parent. Our daughter lives with me and he knows she will be taken care of regardless with his help or not, so he can move on and have a relationship. He is very involved in my daughter's life and I make sure they maintain a relationship regardless of the issues between the two of us.

Your libra's ex doesn't sound like she is this way so he is unbalanced and has way too much on his plate to be emotionally available as you want. Librans don't really invest their time into someone if they don't like/love something about them. I can't say he is "in love" with you because they love on so many levels. If he is in love and sure he wants to be he will "make time" regardless of his schedule. He wants to but can't. It isn't his fault or yours, it just is. Timing sucks.

If Librans want you wether they are with others or not, they won't let you go and eventually when "THE TIME IS RIGHT" they will resurface and claim their prize. Love = letting go. If it is meant to by yours it will come back to you. I believe that.
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I am saying. He wants a life and to explore a possibility of being in one with you but won't allow himself to do so. We are the masters of our fate. When librans are unbalanced it is hard for them to make decisions and stand for what they want especially when kids are involved (as a parent - kids should always come first). She could also be holding a guilt trip over him, which can be easy to do to an unbalanced libra. He really does need to grow some balls. Really. However in the meantime, don't subject yourself to this torture. It is okay to be there for him as a friend (only if you can handle it) but, wouldn't you rather be involved with someone who can reciprocate what you give? I know it is hard, Librans have been my muses for years, but I have learned how to appreciate them for what they give and leave when they can't give what I need. That goes for any man and any sign. I have just been mostly involved with librans though. (((Hugs))) It won't be easy I know.
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***Thats the thing....he knows she's being emotional and will play on it to keep her dangling...its a long-winded rollercoaster ride and HH— getting over it?? yes in time, we take so long though....Leos are too loyal...hope you don't continue to get bitten by this one ****

Chatz is gonna kill me for saying this but, I disagree that they purposely keep you dangling, they honestly care for you (at least in my experiences) maybe even love you, but timing is everything. It depends on where the two of you are in your life at the time and they will only be where you want them if they can be. You get it. Nobody's fault.
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"If Librans want you wether they are with others or not, they won't let you go and eventually when "THE TIME IS RIGHT" they will resurface and claim their prize. Love = letting go. If it is meant to by yours it will come back to you. I believe that"

Yes I agree!!

"Chatz is gonna kill me for saying this but, I disagree that they purposely keep you dangling, they honestly care for you (at least in my experiences) maybe even love you, but timing is everything. It depends on where the two of you are in your life at the time and they will only be where you want them if they can be. You get it. Nobody's fault"

QS what I wrote didnt come out as I meant it but I agree with the above also....problem is he does know that he can't give her what she wants/needs but still gives, then takes away....Ive been there all too long myself. They definitely DONT WANT to hurt anybody - I know this all too well too....argghhhh@how I typed that out.....you all know what I mean - sheesh LOL.

"If Librans want you wether they are with others or not, they won't let you go and eventually when "THE TIME IS RIGHT" they will resurface and claim their prize. Love = letting go. If it is meant to by yours it will come back to you. I believe that"

AGAIN, i AGREE totally....live your life for now HH and if you find "the one"? then letting go was totally worth it don't you agree? If he comes back and you haven't found "the one" by then?? totally worth having let go for now rather than riding the roller coaster ride from hell don't you agree? Us Leos tend to read into every little thing when we are in love...look after YOU for now 🙂

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"We tried to talk today about seeing each other, I told him that I would not tell him not to see other people, because I feel that is his choice at this point, i don't want to try and control him..He said if we were intimate again that we should tell each other before we are intimate with someone else...So it sounds like he wants to see other people but will tell me before it progresses to intimacy...Sounds like a big ball of hurt waiting to happen...Should I have told him that I don't want him to see other people, if I agree to see him again..I don't want him too, but I also want it to be his choice..."

OMG yes that is a big ball of hurt waiting to happen alright....do you really think you could handle him seeing others? then the shell-shock when he says he wants to become intimate with them?? Just remember, they can have sex with a multitude of women and still make you feel like you're the only one!!
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***I don't want to force his hand, but I also have to do whats right for me...I think seeing other people will wreck any chance of a future together and build resentment and hurt...I am going to tell him that if he wants to see other people, we will remain just friends and if he wants a committment in the future...Who knows..***

This is exactly what you should do and mean it.

Don't even think about the home buying thing (jointly). Why would you even consider doing something with him and you'all are not even close to having a relationship, let alone a future. Don't make that mistake!
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Ofcourse he said that HH. He isn't ready sweety. Nothing you can do to make this happen right now. He just isn't ready. It is about him, not you.

Also, I thought you didn't want a casual relationship? If you send him mixed signals he will be confused and may disappear because you are unbalancing him. You don't seem to be capable of being just friends with this guy too many emotions. You fire signs don't give up easy at all geeze!!! J/K I know it is hard.
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H-H....go back and read my posts...I did EXACTLY what you are doing now (being a Leo), turning myself inside out, back to front and doing handstands for my guy but at the end of the day there is something stopping him from being emotionally involved...in your case,it seems there are a few issues, not just one. We are very loyal and he knows of your loyalty.....i did all the same stuff, I didnt want to lose mine's friendship and so I kept offering it to him and we kept going back to the FWB thing because we couldn't keep our hands off eachother but this time we have separated and not spoken, not emailed, not texted, not anything so that eventually we can be friends.

Talking every day isn't going to help you, telling him what you want isn't going to help you....tell him what you feel/think/want/need and stand by your convictions and don't back down - you will not only unbalance him but you'll lose your dignity. He does not want to hurt you but he won't back down from having sex with you. He clearly is unable to be just friends right now so you have to be the strong one. Oh and by the way, I notice they love strong women.

Dont do this to yourself HH....like I said, go back and read MY posts...I did the same as you and tried to analyze absolutely everything that he did/said....and boy was he wishy/washy....

Good luck with that and be strong 🙂
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I don't really think he is thinking about that aspect (bonking me and others)...He hasn't been with anybody else(intimately) since we were together..I think it's more he's not ready to trust and he's not ready to deal with the complications of a relationship...

and yes I am having a hard time giving up, but I am patient and I think he will be worth the wait...Maybe he should date other people, I am the first person he dated after his separation...
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***I figured if he wanted to go ahead with the casual sex than he dosen't want and isn't looking to the future with me but if he wants to wait until he's ready than he must care about me and want a future with me..****

Not necessarily true. He doesn't want to have casual sex, because he can see you are too emotionally invested and you can't handle it and he doesn't want to hurt you further. As far as the future goes. He isn't sure if you are the one for him, because if he was there would be no question, he would take you now! He isn't sure about alot of things in his life, so why are you torturing yourself. Like I have told Chatz, why sit around and wait for "Mr. not right now" when you may find a perfect "Mr. right now" for you if you unblind yourself from him? It is up to you, torture will be the future for you because he simply isn't sure or ready right now. Don't wait on something that might not ever happen. Don't put your life on hold. It could devastate you. Ask Chatz.
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Good girl....yes mine was the same (so very wishy washy although he didnt mean to be)....yes he also got sad when he finally realised he was hurting me...but not as hurt as I was when I found out he was seeing others, not intimately but the fact he was looking elsewhere all the time? and being online every damned day and night? was enough for me to finally walk away. It made HIM sad though...can you believe it?? he didnt love me or he'd have devoted that time he spent behind a f^% king computer screen each night to me.

H-H your Libra is going to be this way for a VERY LONG time....they take forever to work themselves out and he is so very unbalanced. Its probably best you dont even remain friends for the time being and you will understand why in time.

Sad but oh so very true...you can't make him be ready either - he'll do it in his time and that could take years. He does not know what he wants and a Libra like that? argghhhh!!!

Good luck sweetie, Im proud of you for standing your ground 🙂