My sweet/hurting never ending...

relationship with a LIBRA man... and I'm a 30 year old scorpio (of course) woman. PLEASE excuse my bad writing language; from Scandinavia. And please dont judge or give moralspeach because I've done that to myself from the beginning and I'm fully "aware".
Ok, long but please help me analyze this; 6 years ago in November I was on a girl-weekend trip and met my uforgetteble libra in a disco-bar (he was on a boys-weekend trip/sporthappening), and he asked me to dance with him. Wow... when our eyes met... we ended up having mindblowing/uforgetteble sex later at his hotel. He tried to stop before we came that far... but I'm a scorpio:-)

Him; 11 years older than me, married to a libra for 20 years, been together since 16 and having 2 kids that means the world to him. Said from the start he had NEVER been unfaithful before, just flirting.
Me; been with my boyfriend (pieces) since 14 years old, never been unfaithful except with my libra and now just got married to my boyfriend and have 2 children under 5 years. Got pregnant the year after I met LM when we were suppose to finely see eachother again to FIND OUT (he lives 7 ours away by car). Much back and forth and I could tell he was very scared of seeing me again. But every time I ended the relationship and the contact, he couldn't let me go so we contiunued and continued. There is this amazing bond between us that QS have been telling so much about. And it's impossible to get free from eachother; we fit on so many levels and have this chemistry and understanding for one another. Through all of this years I have tried to get on with my life and succeeded with great will; so now I have this double life with the perfect family, house, car, job, friends etc. And so has he. We share the same interest (many others) for soccer witch he don't have whith his wife. I know they argue alot; maybe because they are to similar just like me and my husband. Love my LM way of thinking/his mind; keeps me balanced. So gentle and charming but yet firm; I love him but haven't said it in plain words YET. He did on phone one week after our meeting and have said it many times since. Some of his words; love me, missing me, his heart bleeds, he is "mine" and hope to find things out soon when time is right. When I once asked if he had been unfaithful agian he replied; "only with you... can it be anything better than with you? No; the upbuilding, the lust and the force between us. You are burn-marked in my head forever".

so what's your question?

***can it be anything better than with you? No; the upbuilding, the lust and the force between us. You are burn-marked in my head forever".***

Wow, I have been told similar things from Libra exes... Interesting...

Well... I know judging doesn't help, but the two of you will continue to be torn until you make a final decision to go either way. End what you have builed with your families and be together, or it will end eventually.

I TRULY CANNOT EXPLAIN THE BOND BETWEEN THE TWO ON AN EMOTIONAL AND SEXUAL LEVEL..*** However, when you think about being with someone, there is so much more than that... On so many other levels their can be conflict with this combo, unless the scorp truly understands him. I am only as knowledgeable as I am about the Libra man because of my involvements and marriage with them, they weren't easy, but I learned a hell of a lot from all of my experience with them. I admire them the most for their intellect, charm, and the many levels of love they can have for people. Oh and did I say, the sex!!! I haven't met sign yet that matches better in that department!!! I don't think...

Scandie, I am also aware of how easy it must be to fall for a libra when you are with a pisces... For a scorp, a libra is easier to respect and look up too. Especially since he is older.

last post for now;

Even when I was pregnant he held on. 4 months before getting married he sends me a nude picture with my permission. And 2 months before my wedding I sendt one back but with clothes ON:-) FANTASTIC he replied. After my wedding in august I just got 1 message from him; how are you? Married now? Gave him a short reply and feel I will have to STOP our contact now next time I hear from him (but how with my incompatible emotions). It's been few and far between the messages after I told him I was getting married anyway, and that time will tell if we are ment to be together. This for me is realy a mask and I try to be the strong one and do the right thing. But what is the right thing when we still live in eachother's heads and feel this tenderness, friendship and respect? Earlier this year he tried to call me when I didnt replay to his message and thanked me when I finaly did later that day.

Can it be us some day? What to do? I know astrology can't solve all my problems and questions but still it would be nice if someone please can give me some advice and insight for further handeling.
Why does it feel so strong - can I trust him or is he a little unstable?

Him;
Sun Libra 20?36'32 in house 10 direct
Moon Libra 24?11'24 in house 11 direct
Mercury Scorpio 12?01'42 in house 12 direct
Venus Libra 14?03'48 in house 10 direct
Mars Virgo 0?59'23 in house 9 direct
Jupiter Leo
Ascendant Scorpio 23?40'49
2nd House Sagittarius 25?17'22
3rd House Aquarius 15?01'32
Imum Coeli Pisces 27?38'24
5th House Aries 24?01'23
6th House Taurus 11?13'41
Descendant Taurus 23?40'49

Me;
Sun Scorpio 24?13'14 in house 6 direct
Moon Aquarius 8?39'29 in house 10 direct
Mercury Sagittarius 10?21'16 in house 6 direct
Venus Scorpio 8?10'58 in house 6 direct
Mars Leo 7?33'15 end of house 3 direct
Jupiter Cancer 5?14'50 in house 1 retrograde
Ascendant Cancer 0?36'43
2nd House Cancer 11?56'08
3rd House Cancer 23?36'40
Imum Coeli Leo 8?32'41
5th House Virgo 2?38'36
6th House Libra 23?50'43
Descendant Capricorn 0?36'43

You two are the only people who will know the answer to this. Why would you get married when you loved someone else? Scorps can only normally be "in love" with one person at a time. Is it love or lust? If it is lust - it is so not worth it.

LOL!!! To be honest, I almost forgot. The first Libra I was ever involved with, was when I was engaged to a Pisces and he cheated on me with a virgo and I eventually cheated with a Libra and ended the engagement, but for the longest. I craved the libra... He was a year or two younger than me, which for me is strange, as I normally don't get involved with men younger than me.

Wow, I just remembered this!!!

One last post tonight before I go to bed:-)

Yes, but it's all about sacrifice and courage I think and I got pregnant and LM was married and live far away. I just been so confused and doubtful; I met him 1 TIME.
Normally I know exactly what I want.

"However, when you think about being with someone, there is so much more than that... On so many other levels their can be conflict with this combo, unless the scorp truly understands him. I am only as knowledgeable as I am about the Libra man because of my involvements and marriage with them, they weren't easy, but I learned a hell of a lot from all of my experience with them. I admire them the most for their intellect, charm, and the many levels of love they can have for people".

Yes, you are right and I have gotten to know many sides of his personality; not all perfect. My sister (aires) also been together with a libra for 25 years and he is a littlebit psychopath:-) My aunt (scorpio) have had a 30 year old happy marriage to a libra! Me and my husband has lost so many things on the road (true feelings etc. much is missing between us and i realy like the LM better; he does something to me that my husband never have managed. I was so young when I met him). My children now always comes first.

Your story sounds very sad ... ... Are you still in love with your husband ? If not ,dont you think he has the right to know it before things got out of hand? No secret can be safe forever , no matter how one tries.Also, I hope your children are mature enough to understand your double life when it comes to light . Calm yourself first and ask yourself where it goes , eventually , you have to make a choice so dont take it so long .And the Libra man you re with , what does he think about his involvement with you , can he see the future ? can you see the future ? Even you cant make it with him , it doesnt mean you should stay with your husband and say it's for the sake of your children ...Just my personal experience with my parents.I wish you all the best.

***My children now always comes first.***

Our children always do come first...

Yes, it can be a very harmoneous union, hence your sister and her 30 year relationship with hers,but it definitely takes work and a lot of understanding.

Those two lusty creatures are not single and they meet in a disco?

Been with him since you were 14, ok.

"just flirting".. but hasn't been unfaithful.

He didn't tell you he loves 'cept that he mentioned it over the phone .. many times?

Its just too bad that the two of you met right? wrong?

You're addicted, save and focus on your primary priority.

There are things that you may know about him and not know about him..ok? Lets put it this way f% #K morality in the ass - got it? Do you know that he want's to be married to you? No you don't and its possible that this could be the furtherest thing from both your minds - cuz now we're talkin' about a separate kind of intimacy - get the point? There is a difference betwen what is considered to be a formal marriage and an illigitimate affair that the two of you are after. Keep it that way, he's got his kids why do you need to have him anywhere near yours? You don't need that shit. What is the distance between the two of you? couple of hours right? that's good, keep it that way have your fun. Last thing you wan't him to do hon is something that he might regret - breakin' up with his woman (just for your inbred ass) and all the would be hassels that would involve a divorce. Let him fight with his bitch that's not your problem, or even your f'in business and neither is it some corny ass convoluted reason for you to justify your lust for or his lust for you. Keep it discrete, that's it, enjoy the adventure.

:-) Hello again...
Thanks for inputs. I understand your questions witch is similar to my own. Ferocity Dravidian, I think you are right in many things and thoughts. Not easy to explain how things really are but I try my best to do it short. Marriage with him is not what I prior are looking for. The "love you's" have stopped (mostly over sms but also on phone) because of my lacking of DIRECT respons. He do have his pride, but still writes me the sweetest/hottest things now and then. After we met our frinds (both singles) also staid in contact for a while (not any more) and his buddy couldn't BELIVE that we had contact and that he persued me as he knew him as the perfect family man (known eachother since kids, but kept it a secret that we had contact - confessed and told him everything when asked). I didn't want to be the reason for a divorce and thats one reason I have pulled away so many times. I do love my husband (he wasn't all that nice to me in the beginning of our relationship and he is 4 years older than me - done som stuff...) but more like a friend and on a care level. And once I was in love with him but my life changed completely after my meeting with LM and so has his life (at least he tells me; he have set many things and years in risk I think not to tell me the truth). My life is better know but the first 4 years was hard. I'm getting things in perspective now and I have slow down our contact long time ago. But I KNOW he will always try to reach out until we get some answers one day - honestly I am glad for this (sorry to admit and know it's bad). Maybe when our kids are grown we dare to take chances and mess things up - no, I don't know but I belive time WILL tell and give me some guidens. As a scorpio i do have a good intuition and it's telling me somthing good about this man and maybe spend a late future with him one day. I get glad/have a good and warm felling (little sad also) thinking of us, but I'm aware the "fantasy/addiction-land". Ok, thanks again... I really also like to know a little more what I REALLY mean to him and why so persisten? Is he so madly, deeply still...? And maybe I should have a (last) telephoneconv. as he wanted to clear things up again - I think it only will draw us back in again and not a good ide right now. There is a great respect between us.

I will also post our horoscopes at Relationships & Astrology for some feedback and how we match and attract. As a scorp I must/need to know anyway...

FD, she is a scorp... We are not known for splitting our affection. We are all or nothing people. So eventually it will be either or for her. She has to make that decision. Someone is going to get terribly hurt if this continues. It can get really ugly.

*** I really also like to know a little more what I REALLY mean to him and why so persisten? Is he so madly, deeply still...? And maybe I should have a (last) telephoneconv. as he wanted to clear things up again - I think it only will draw us back in again and not a good ide right now. There is a great respect between us. ***

According to your post. He is in love with you. Libras don't waste time contacting people they arent' seriously interested in and to say "I love you" and express what he has to you. Oh, he means it.

The feeling between the two of you is common between the two signs/sexes. It will always be intense. I have been told by libra men (even two on this board)that it is so easy for a Libra man to open up to us scorp women, because of our honest and open nature. There will always be a comfort zone he is in when with you. You will always feel special when with him. This is strong and remain. However, as previously stated. There are so many other factors to consider, so many.

My first love and serious relationship was with a Scorp and I have had others. Take it from me that if the two of you do not fully commit and then spend A LOT of energy and time in trying to understand and appreciate each other for who you are it will not work. Libra male Scorp female is a double edged sword. The attraction is there, the sexual compatability is there BUT both look at life in a different way, sometimes a very different way and it is hard a lot of the times to even fully understand let alone respect and admire the other person. A of time Scorp will hold on tighter than normal and feel less secure than normal because of Libras charming and mental over emtotional nature.

*** of time Scorp will hold on tighter than normal and feel less secure than normal because of Libras charming and mental over emtotional nature.***

This is the only thing I have found to be different in my relationships with Libras. I took their charm and over emotional nature as an asset. Never felt insecure with any of them, because when they seriously want you they do. I found a different comfort with them, even in a casual relationship, but then my chart is full of air and fire.

If he's cheating with you SD, he's a cheater and their are other women he's with also...Why wouldn't he?

Tiki this could be true, but, it might not be. Look at her.... He is the only person she is cheating with. Libras ARE very capable of having casual sex without attachments, but in my experience, they are honest about it. For instance, he wouldn't say the things he says to her for the heck of it, if he doesn't really feel it. Meaning, she means more to him than just a fling. This much I know.

If his heart is set on someone, then it isn't likely he will persue someone else on the same serious level.

you know QS you may jus be right, I respect your insight..I'm not that experienced with issues like this, I jus figure once a cheater he will always be one no matter what, I guess the same could be said for her too but hey whatever floats their boats...I think its sad though b/c its not fair to their spouses and families but hey maybe thats the lesson they need to grasp out of it all.

Tiki, I am not that experienced with cheating and being cheated on either (outside of the one incident with the Pisces). However, you never know in any situation. Oh, and I didn't say the situation wasn't sad. It is and the children will be the most affected in both families. 😢

Got a "polite" happy birthday txtmessage from him a few days ago which wasn't very surprising; "happy birthday beautiful... have a nice celebration today!:-) Many long warm hugs from me. xxx" Only replied thanks:-) There wouldn't be any contact if it wasn't for him and he knows that. He also knows the risk of beeing caught; my husband takes care of the cellphone bills/prints. I feel I have tried the best/ALL I can to stop this but very difficult. In the past I have ended it 5 times with both nice and bad closures and NOT responded when he have reached out again. He knows me very well and that I try to do the best for all parts. He just acts so typical LIBRA-way described on this board here so it's realy not easy to STOP entirely. (In respect and feelings for both families) I just hope that we/I don't have to learn the hard way (for now at least) when we/I have come this far regarding having very little contact. As I have hoped and belived from the beginning; THE TIME have solved many things out for me and wounds have healed.

But STILL (in between) I daydream (thats allowed)... wondering about him/us and it fills me with som kind of hope and SOMETHING indescribable. Nevertheless, for now and some years to come I will keep beeing strong and hold on to my principles no matter outcome. IF it opens more up in the future for us though, which strategy would be best for me to use, helping also him to make up HIS mind about his wife if it gets LIBRA-comlicated-back and forth- style (we have not been discussing this, but he have hinted that he may leave her for me in the future if I want him to). I'm NOT the typical possessive scorpio type (I analyse a lot, and belive scorpios get calmer, more confident inside with age), dignity means much to me. If/when I completely decide, do I keep holding things back from him? Good/honest communication is important for both of us, but he is a libra; weighing and maybe difficult taking a final decision:-) After reading my/our story how do I "tip the scales" if it comes to that someday - nice if the guys on this board also can give some insight/answers. Thank you in advance and please again excuse the messy/wrong spelling and writing...

My two cents? Don't let your imagination go wild.

Scandi, if you have decided to remain with your husband. Do so. Have you seriously explained to the libra your intensions (I know even if you have he won't let go completely). Some how you have to disconnect yourself from him totally for awhile that is the only way you can manage this. I sense deep inside you don't want to lose contact with him completely. Change your number.

"Scandi, if you have decided to remain with your husband. Do so. Have you seriously explained to the libra your intensions (I know even if you have he won't let go completely). Some how you have to disconnect yourself from him totally for awhile that is the only way you can manage this. I sense deep inside you don't want to lose contact with him completely. Change your number".

I know I (probably) should but still/right now I want to know MORE that's not possible to have knowledge of... for the moment at least (but maybe some day I will)... and I keep wondering... and at times I DID let my imagination go wild (less and less fortunately, I do my best to be grounded and it's easier to cope now). Yes, I have seriously explained to the libra my intensions, but I belive he thinks that we HAVE experienced this... there will always be a bond that I or he can't run away from. Complicated, but I sort of know how he thinks and it's tricky to completely (I DID THAT...) get away from all of his persona/relationship etc. He makes me questioning if WE are ment to be and if we have good chances one day...

I think one reason for not get fully peace about this is that my father passed away (cancer) a few years ago... little hard to explain but maybe you get the picture anyway... You get so aware of how fast/short life can be - It's alot about taking paths and choices you can stand for (and still not stepping on/hurting pepople you love, encluding yourself) etc...

"Yes, I have seriously explained to the libra my intensions, but I belive he thinks that we HAVE experienced this... there will always be a bond that I or he can't run away from. Complicated, but I sort of know how he thinks and it's tricky to completely (I DID THAT...) get away from all of his persona/relationship etc. He makes me questioning if WE are ment to be and if we have good chances one day..."

Well, he have given me these answers back when I have told him my resons to break the relationship; He says he accept my decition and can't force me (but still coming back) "but then It's ME alone who take the choice for us to not ever be true - that I don't find us/the relationship/the pain and love worth it, so I'M running from what is between us and dont let us maybe together one day. I will anyway be with him/in his mind and what we have shared forever no matter what I choose". His words.

You have to make a decision and stick to it. Inquiring about you and the Libra will never allow you to honestly chose your husband/family. You will continue to keep what you have alive and eventually fall back into the same cycle.

This is also a moral issue/topic (difficult) and I understand the reactions. But for me who's in middle of it it's more than just black/white. Thanks for feedback and wice advices QS - I would ment the same if I hadn't gone true this myself (not so easy to find the right words).

In the real world I dont really know him, but still feels like it because of the spesial connection over so long period of time; we know a lot about eachother/families - I know he tries to be more of just a frind now so I don't feel guilty and can keep stay in contact a "little", but thats not right to the families we both love. I guess I just trying to understand all I can about the LIBRA male in general and if any libras here can identify/relate to his (simple/naiv) behaviour; if you truly think YOU LOVE someone/and maybe met the ONE and were in that kind of "situation", would you really hold on so strongly and in that way over so many years like I have described etc. What does he want/hoping for... what is it I "trigg" in him... I think it can give me more peace if I knew...

I am were I am today and have managed to focus well/OK I think (even though I can blame my self for my situation). My thoughts will still be wandering anyway I'm afraid, and I think forum/boards is a good way to get some perspective and maybe some more (various) feedback.

Thanks anyway to all of you for reading my dilemma/story - have a nice day:-)

***In the real world I dont really know him, but still feels like it because of the spesial connection over so long period of time; ***

Exactly, attraction and sexual connection between Libra man/Scorp woman is always intense and connecting, however, as I mentioned before there is so much more and this relationship (if you were in a real life one)would take work when it comes to communication and understanding eachothers point of view. So, in actuality the two of you aren't living in reality. You have the sexual connection and the comfort each provides for the other. However, you don't deal with the "day to day life" of being with eachother so you don't really know what it would be like.

***if you truly think YOU LOVE someone/and maybe met the ONE and were in that kind of "situation", would you really hold on so strongly and in that way over so many years like I have described etc.****

Librans hold on to the ones they love for a very long time even after it is over. Mostly in their heads if the other has made a decision to end the relationship/involvement. So to answer your question. Yes, they do hold on, but not forever.

Thanks again for putting words on my own thoughts and belives; feels sort of good to get this form of confirmation about him/us... and it's not something you go around talking about, even to friends...

"Scandie"