I have to honestly say that I am not against cloning. I am not particularly for it either though. (If this story is true and not a hoax) I hope that the baby Eve and her mother/twin is not found by reporters who expose them and torment them... Eve should have a normal life as should the mother. I understand why some people would want artificial/cloned children and I am not adverse to that. Like Morgan, I fear a Gattica world in which a person's DNA tells everything about them. Also, it is the environment that I think accounts for most of the personality differences.
Lawgoddess- the way you say it, I agree with you against cloning for parts. But I don't belive that is how it is going to be. Taking a cell, scientists can regrow the parts individually without needing the whole person. Therefore, they clone a liver or an ear. I am for this but I know that it will just lead to the rich who can afford the treatment to live longer healthier lives while to poor are (as always) left behind.
PS. If we can clone ears on rats then can't we clone wings on pigs...?
yeah thats what ive been wondering, but you know...maybe the aliens dont even know themselves! maybe theyre just like us, except have more knowledge about..scientific butter. But who knows, this could be all be a hoax..and if its not, then o_O
and somehow i feel like this could be hoax also, because the rael dude says that if they make enough money, theyre going to make an embassy to welcome the aliens and you ask, why cant the aliens just make their own f*kin embassy, well they want us to make it to make sure that they are welcome since you know if they just landed, the world would be in hysteria. Anyway, basically 50 thousands or more are in this right now, which is just krazy. But its weird how this rael guy is a race car driver, and that butter is pretty expensive to maintain.. so where does the money go hm?
ok so basically this "rael" guy is saying we were created by aliens but the funny thing is, is that he says we misinterpreted the ways of the "bible" or any other religious preeches/stories/yada yada DA. It says that we mistook them as "Gods" when theyre just merely like US people but more tiny like frickin mini me's running around. About 4 feet. *cough* anyway, they are supposedly scientists in another planet and discovered how to create life, thus they wanted to experiment and "make life" but the government they had over there had strict rules and didnt allow such things on their planet, so these mini me scientists searched for vacant planets and found EARTH.
So they created all these life forms such as plants, animals, and blah blah to make an equal balance which we call today, "The cycle of life". Then they started getting more curious and decided to make human life forms in their own image(sound familiar? look in the bible dear.) so! they made humans in their image and they supposedly "love" us like their own children(sound familiar again).. It also says that in the hebrew bible that in the beginning it started off with some s**t about elohim which means something from the sky, and thus that is the name of their government(pretty tripp ne?) and it also says that they sent prophets down to earth such as jesus, ghandi, moses, etc etc. To teach us since they left us ignorant and naive. So basically we were created from DNA and such from their labratory.
This rael guys says that he met with these "aliens" and they took him to the four corners of the earth to explain what happened in the begining, etc etc. He also claimed that in the bible it says that in the end you can spend eternal life with god, well i guess that was "Twisted" around like what rael says. Because nowadays, scientists are doing that whole cloneing butter, and it says that they can make humans have eternal life by making a clone of themselves and transferring their memory and stuff into that cloned body which will "deliver" eternal life. And that is said in the bible. About the eternal life thinger..
People claim this as a cult, most likely it is, but isnt your religion somehow a cult also? This is trippy... i was curious and i researched over this, so sue me -_-. Blah blah!! bored, going to go read or watch tv or talk on the phone, online, fweh latez!
Wow Star. Thanx for those kind words. I really like everyone here...I think we are a diverse range of ppl all with valid opinions and perspectives. This site sometimes is thought provoking, which is always a great thing. A big thankyou should go to DXnet, who brought us all together and has allowed us the freedom to openly discuss what can sometimes be controversial topics.
Inspiration is always a good thing...I too, get inspired by reading posts here, and sometimes get so frustrated by other posts...but all is good.
Cortica is in the process of moving house. She has been through some sad times lately (lost her mamma dog and one of her pups) I will definetely pass on your message to her (re: tarot reading) and I am sure she will oblige when she has time to do so. The family will be taking off soon (today) to see her and hang out abit.
Star, I believe you are an incredible person who is ALSO ALL the things (and more) that you have said about me. I think you are a fabulous mum and that your openness with your daughter will only grow stronger and closer b/c of this. She is lucky to have you and I am sure she will excel at anything she does b/c of the lessons you have taught her.
Have a great New Year...and that goes to everyone here!
THIS WEBSITE SUCKS! NEVER JOIN THIS FORUM! DELETE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hmmm... What define's a person's personality has little to do with a person's genes and mostly to do with a person's life experiences. That's what's wrong with all those science fiction stories about the cloning of people to bring them back. It's a new person, with a new life. You can clone the body, but you can't clone the memories, or least not yet... That would be very scary of you could, sort of a Sixth Day meats Dark City... What a wierd world we live in... It's only going to get weirder.
How do I explain this without without seeming like the weirdest person on the planet??? There is a different feel on this astrology board site (for me)...many times, I feel an incredible amount of energy...good energy (positive energy)..sometimes the negativity overwhelms me...
I become impelled to respond and feel inspired at times...the more inspired I feel, the faster I type, and, the less I do a spell check or a did-I-make-sense-check!! LOL!
(I suppose this is a disclaimer of sorts regarding my posts and what I say! LOL!)
I know that emotionally, for me, at this time, Venus is f**king with me! Aquarians (at least those with Capricorn Rising and a Gemini Moon), resent this interfence with our aloof, seemingly-in-control, personna!!
It is not like I am possessed or anything...OK, well, maybe I am...but, if I am, it is a friendly ghost! (So, would this like come from my Scotish/Irish heritage??)...
I need a tarot card reading! Where is Cortica when I need her??
Lawgoddess, I love to read your opinions! The wisdom of your soul shines brightly! You always present in a practical, unpretentious, down-to-earth manner. You display confidence, yet, you are not in any way conceited. You are compassionate and much of what you say rings a vibration that is needed amongst the collective soul. I am very grateful for that and feel the need to thank you personally....
I think the facts here in this article are way way off the truth of the circumstances.
That 'religion' is involved, sounds like a hoax to me...rather fantastical. WE had the same report in our newspaper here in Australia.
I believe the cloning of humans is happening (it has been banned in Australia)throughout the world. It would be interesting, if nothing else, to see the progess of these infants..will they be EXACTLY the same in personality, intellegence etc...an EXACT clone, or will they be proper individuals (As I believe) with their own life path. This may prove other things, eg, that astrology plays a part in determining character traits, that the 'soul' or 'consciousness' are separate from the physical being, etc..etc..
BUT, cloning for body parts is a huge NO NO....b/c like it or not, these infants ARE PEOPLE..and as such, have human rights that are afforded them by the International Covenant on Human and Political Rights, and therefore cannot legally be harvested.
One last thing, I hope these kids arent put under a microscope for their entire lives, and have the chance to lead a normal life...if that's even possible.