Domesticated Bull

I awoke this morning and felt a rumble in my belly. When I was alone, I probably would've waited until the annoying sounds went away because after all, what is "breakfast" anyway? I mean seriously, it's such an odd word...break-fast. First, it's not "fast" at all. I mean, it takes like 10 minutes to cook a 5 minute grit and what the fuck am I "breaking" from? I just woke up so why would I need to break, fast or eat for that matter. Hmm...that's all beside the point so I shall begin again...

I was hungry. Now given that Catfish and I are sharing an abode, I instinctively turned to him and asked if he would like something to eat. He said yes and without hesitation, I went to the kitchen to prepare food. When it was complete, I prepared his plate before making my own. I took his plate to him, before making my own and upon sitting down to eat, I realized, he appeared to have less food than me so I spooned some of mine onto his plate.

We then ate, I cleared the table and afterward, I put the dishes in the dishwasher and where this all seems pretty straight forward, pretty simple and mundane, it's actually quite profound. I, who almost never eats "breakfast," did just that. And it was second nature. It wasn't forced. I wasn't trying to impress him as I gladly dawned my invisible apron.

So I wonder, is this what naturally happens to women in the presence of a man? I consider myself fairly progressive and yet, even when I look upon my past relationships, whenever dude was around, I'd find myself doing the strangest things like cooking, cleaning, dusting and shit.

Am I alone or do you find yourself falling into a "let me cook for you and here are your slippers and pipe baby" mode whenever a man is around? Does this tendency fade or is this the natural dynamic of a "traditional" male-female relationship?

you're a man so of course it's natural for you...and claim to be a southern one at that 😛

Posted by TyDyed
On the flip side: Do you think the Man you're living with should act more "husbandly" if you're acted more "wifely"??

well therein lies the original question...is it an "act" or is it "nature" and by virtue of what transpires when a male of significance is present, for me, it feels very natural. that's not to say that i will ALWAYS be in the kitchen and he will ALWAYS take out the trash, but i do find it odd/interesting that in spite of progression, in most families, the roles and the manner in which we operate are dictated by gender and tradition.

has he prepared food for me, yes. but to be honest, his preparing dinner felt more like a treat, more like a lesson than a standard. "lesson" because in a way, i am learning what he likes and the meals he prepares will be replicated/adapted by me as he has demonstrated to me something that he likes.

Posted by TyDyed


And... so long as neither if you feels compelled to play Tarzan or Jane, it's healthy, too.

i guess that's the point. i didn't feel "compelled" or that i was playing at anything. it was a natural thing to do and the only reason why it stood out to me this morning was because it was so easy...so natural...so mundane and i guess, never having lived with a man before, even though it felt "natural" during the dating phase, the dating part had a "phase" element to it.

sure, i cooked and cleaned regardless but now, in the presence of sharing my space and life with another person who is not simply a roommate, but a partner, my "role" seems/feels predestined. it's neither good/bad, it just is and i guess, i find that odd. i'm not sure why?

it's not that i expected myself to have a perpetual, "i am woman, hear me roar" stance but WHY is this, traditional gender roles, normal/natural and easy to fall into?

Posted by THEKingofLibra
Question is, does it feel 'natural' for you to suck a man's dick? Because thats what femininity is. Submission. There is no grey area about it. And the kitchen stuff is just an icing on the cake, frankly I'd love to cook for my beau if there was one, but I won't be sucking her dick for sure. Mmmhm.

you're peculiar.

the question isn't as simple as "why do dogs bark?"

the question is, why THIS? why these particular roles and why does one naturally default to them? cooking is not submissive nor is taking out the trash dominant so it can't be regarded as such.

also, do you "submit" to a woman when you lick her kitty and ass? if so, that makes us both bitches and eh, given who i'm replying to, no surprise there.

Posted by DoubleGem2
Yes, to the OP...I have been working since I was seveteen making my own way..so I consider myself to be independent..although I go into mommy, caretaker mode almost instinctively.

do you wonder or question why?

i grew up in a single parent household so i didn't learn by example.

one gets up dresses walks down to the shop & save orders a plate of eggs, beans, bacon, a slice of tomato and fry bread with coffee. If she wants something she should do the same.

im sorry that no one loves you

Posted by THEKingofLibra
Given who you replying to, eh? I'm not the one cooking breakfast in the morning all up in the kitchen with my tits bouncing around huffing and puffing, BUT if you think I'm a bitch, by all means, throw down!

it appears we have much in common...

we're both bitches
we both have asthma
and we both like to suck on balls

Posted by DoubleGem2


i grew up in a single parent household so i didn't learn by example.

My parents were married till death did them part althiugh my mom was not my role model my ex fiance's mother was. She taught me how to cook and everything else domestically realated. I guess she wanted me to take good care of her son. I like to do it believe it or not. I get some kind of satidfaction out of it....makes me feel like a woman.





interesting.


i haven't decided if if like/dislike it. i guess it just felt instinctual and by virtue of that, it's kind of like brushing my teeth or showering...just did it but yes, i like to smell good too. so it's not exactly a chore. not a demand/request uttered by another either, just is and maybe it doesn't baffle others as it does me but eh, i'm an odd one

Posted by THEKingofLibra
There is a sound theory that women who take on a masculine role suffer from anxieties because they are unable to be competitive with real men. Those insecurities bubble up and show up as anxieties, which leads to neurosis. Hence, a presence of a man calms down a woman, she gets her hormones balanced and starts cooking breakfast in the morning.

there is also a sound theory that boys who play at being men are rendered impotent in the presence of real women. these boys own insecurities regarding their lack of sexual stamina and the miniature size of their penis forces them into a feminine state by which they adapt the role of their partner to compensate for their inability to satisfy in the bedroom. thus, they cook, while their woman brings home the bacon.

speaking of which, maybe we can swap recipes. i'm sure there's tons i could learn from you as you seem to have this bitch thing down.

oh, but i'm sure i'm more than capable of using your dildo to fuck you properly. i mean, unless you and your chick are exclusive, i'd be happy to act out my penis envy in your ass.

we can even do it in the kitchen while you fry me up some bacon.

Posted by DoubleGem2
now I realize all they really want is a good meal and an awesome blow...

lol 🙂

Posted by DoubleGem2
When a man say go in the kitchen where u belong, he doesnt realize he is shooting himself in the foot..what he really should be saying is go to the bedroom where you belong....

mi likes

Posted by dreamer23
Caligula, I was married to an Aqua and I could cook my butt off, but after a while I wished his ass knew how to cook. Its so nice when a man can throw down in the kitchen.

But to answer your question, I was hanging out at the Taurus house a few weeks ago and out of nowhere I offer to cook for him the next time I come over. Why the hell did I do that?! It just flew out of my mouth. Now I have to follow through. FUCK. The pressure. LOL

yea, i can see how being with someone who can't cook or whose cooking SUCKS! would be rather exhausting. i suppose at that point, it would feel like a bit of a chore because you are compelled to do so rather than it being a somewhat pleasurable to please and satisfy another's needs.

Posted by DoubleGem2
I guess Caligula moved on to bigger and better threads...

nah, Catfish had to use the puter. can't wait until all this shit is organized

Posted by TyDyed

My poor Leo Mom... she had herself a Virgo Bull...

virgo bull...mmm, k

sup scorp!

yeah, i dated a virgo that i didn't respect much. overall, i knew the relationship wasn't going anywhere so i didn't give a damn how he perceived me domestically. he once asked for something to eat and i said, there's meat in the fridge, cook it. and then i joked around with him about how he should want to cook for me given i've had a hard day at work.

he cooked. hamburgers. they were awful. how can you fuck up a hamburger? either way, had we stayed together, i would've cooked then on out to avoid having to choke down his version of "food." in that case, it wouldn't feel natural because he didn't have a presence that made me want to naturally assume a traditional role.

D'awww 🙂

It's natural for me to want to cook fine meals and serve them. Then again I'm rather old school about the whole affair. I take great joy in doing this for everyone I care about. If someones gut is happy, I'm happy. And it feels so domestic and homely to do such simple things to push that little envelope along. And gratifying to see shiny faces laying waste to what I put my heart into.

It is agreed by those who have eaten my food that I am a very good cook. Men can cook. I keep telling people "it is a matter of self defense!" My scorp ex was no slouch either.

So, what we would do if we were having a large group over was to split the cooking between us. Worked quite well. I tend toward the more hearty stuff. Meats and potatoes, stews, hearty soups. She liked doing deserts and other lighter fare more than I. Nice combo, all in all.

One of the things we talked about and really worked on when we built a house was what to do with the kitchen. We built one that had lots of cupboards and counter space so we could both spread out at the same time.

This stuff of him cooking for her, or her cooking for him, nonsense. Cooking together can be a lot of fun. And you know what, if he can't cook, let him starve until he learns!

^ lol

Am I alone or do you find yourself falling into a "let me cook for you and here are your slippers and pipe baby" mode whenever a man is around? Does this tendency fade or is this the natural dynamic of a "traditional" male-female relationship?


It isn't a tendency that can fade, it is just there I believe.

Hmmm, my mother basically realised from day one that I abhorred domesticity so she made it her mission to ensure my sister and I were well versed in the kitchen, home, etc. While she let my brothers off to their football games, TV, etc.

I can now cook and clean good, doesn't mean I enjoy it or want to particularly do it, it doesn't matter whether a guy is around or my friends are around, they all get the same treatment. No 'mode' what-so-ever, in fact pisses me off to get my arse into the kitchen and turn around and the guy (or girl) isn't behind me... wtf?! I will cook it and bring it to you?! Wow...
When I have guests, I provide, ensure they are taken care of as I invited them over

Now, with my sister, it is the total opposite, she does it all for the man/friend, then complains of being tired of it all but doesn't try to stop doing it because she says she has to. *shrugs*

I see it as a pattern, if you keep doing it, it becomes an expectation.

I honestly believe a lot of it is socially/traditionally programmed, then it becomes part of the subconscious. I know guys who can't get out of the 'I'm the man so I must make more money' etc, mode.

if he can't cook, let him starve until he learns!

lol! Mama like.

Also, there are some people that can't cook, no matter how many lessons or effort, seriously. There must be something wrong with their sense of taste once they begin the process :S

hahaha^ I hear hypnotism works to overcome fear 😄

Get hypnotised so you can be one with the seasonings and things 😉

lol

this thread gave me a god damn boner. when i heard men speak of how woman were programmed to stay in the kitchen and fulfill the "traditional woman role", i thought they were just being discriminative douchebags, but this has opened my eyes, thank you all, i find it extremely fucking sexy.

Posted by TasteOfChaos
im so angry at u

OMG! aussie bff 😛

i feel like crap because i miss our daily banters too but right now, i'm knee-deep in boxes so it's hard to focus.

on a side note, i think the presence of a man, depending on the sign of the woman, cause us woman, to act like a damn fool. i've been more concerned about my legs being hairy than i have about organizing my office. his happiness is more important that my monetary happiness...and i'm a taurus!!! wtf is going on?!?!?!?

i feel like i've been body-invaded and the odd thing is, i dont feel as if i'm doing anything wrong. i'm an earth sign. we're grounded and yet, where is my discipline—?

fuck, he made my OCD go away 😢

Posted by ellessque

Posted by amethyst2002
It's called breakfast because you're breaking the fast you had between dinner and the next morning. :p

I never knew this. Very good explanation. 😄

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she wants to be a smartass is all. i think she writes all the shit on wiki.

why is not call lunchfast? there were several hours between lunch and breakfast and therefore, i want it to be considered fasting too 😛

i want to contribute but i feel i'm out of my depth?

If a person is gay what happens then?

Only you caligula question your womenhood and the fabric of your genetics

next time i finish my dinner, lick the plate, belch then fart i'll stop to question what just happened and ask myself why? In the name of you!

Posted by AA
If a person is gay what happens then?

gay folks are anomalies because usually, one of the pair takes on the "role" of the opposite gender...sometimes in totality. for this reason, this pairing isn't "natural," nor is it "traditional"...and this has nothing to do with it being "right or wrong."

Posted by Strider
This means he is a "real man". They make a woman really really emo and vulnerable and butter . This is good ! Keep it up ! when he sees you acting like a ..... "1950's housewife" ,he will get the strongest urges to tree trunk you night and day .

but i'm not "emo and vulnerable."

i'd fuck him day and night too so uhm...

i get what you're saying though.

Its natural. Jus don't get lost in it.