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There is a thread here now about private/sneaky ... and people who have answered have come in to describe that they do exactly as above, only I don't think they fully realize that other people don't do this, so it isn't normal.
To avoid a store, or a telephone call .... is because you have to first envision before you can relate and how are you suppose to do this if someone is presented to you unexpectedly and wants you to communicate with them?
There are indeed two realities, but, this frightens the Fish, for the most part, mainly because everyone else will tease them, taunt them and make them feel stupid about it ..
.. so the other person gets a lie, or ignorance.
For all you non-P's out there .. try it and see. Bring up a sudden subject to your Pisces friend to whom this Fish knows nothing about the topic, or maybe it's a complicated topic and watch them drop their eyes away from contact with yours, while their head shifts and you will observe a moments blankness (yes, the Pisces conscious awareness is actually gone for that nanosecond)... then thier eyes will find contact with yours and be beaming again.
Catch us unawares, though ... and we'll be ducking out of sight, we will walk right past you and pretend we don't hear you, we won't answer that phone call, we will lie to you.
Try this .. call and leave a message of what you want to talk about, but, say something came up and you can't talk right this sec, so you will call back in about an hour ... and I'd wager that the Pisces will answer the phone because they have had time to process what you want to talk about within the realm of the other side.
To avoid a store, or a telephone call .... is because you have to first envision before you can relate and how are you suppose to do this if someone is presented to you unexpectedly and wants you to communicate with them?
There are indeed two realities, but, this frightens the Fish, for the most part, mainly because everyone else will tease them, taunt them and make them feel stupid about it ..
.. so the other person gets a lie, or ignorance.
For all you non-P's out there .. try it and see. Bring up a sudden subject to your Pisces friend to whom this Fish knows nothing about the topic, or maybe it's a complicated topic and watch them drop their eyes away from contact with yours, while their head shifts and you will observe a moments blankness (yes, the Pisces conscious awareness is actually gone for that nanosecond)... then thier eyes will find contact with yours and be beaming again.
Catch us unawares, though ... and we'll be ducking out of sight, we will walk right past you and pretend we don't hear you, we won't answer that phone call, we will lie to you.
Try this .. call and leave a message of what you want to talk about, but, say something came up and you can't talk right this sec, so you will call back in about an hour ... and I'd wager that the Pisces will answer the phone because they have had time to process what you want to talk about within the realm of the other side.
It's very difficult to live it also, Details ....
I'm sure people have read in here and sure Pisces can relate when I say ... we struggle with getting people to take us seriously, and it pains us tremendously because we feel so deeply, so it kills us when we have something we are feeling and people just toss us aside as if it's nothing.
And I don't blame them for doing it because we could very easy start talking about butterflies during a serious conversation, so we can avoid the question while we slip over there to envision how it's going to feel before answering.
I'm sure people have read in here and sure Pisces can relate when I say ... we struggle with getting people to take us seriously, and it pains us tremendously because we feel so deeply, so it kills us when we have something we are feeling and people just toss us aside as if it's nothing.
And I don't blame them for doing it because we could very easy start talking about butterflies during a serious conversation, so we can avoid the question while we slip over there to envision how it's going to feel before answering.
Also, I want to address upstream/downstream which people are confused about ... this isn't referencing the type of psychological condition in which stems from trauma .. such as, a person was hurt in the past and now they are bitter, or any kind of residue from an emotional pain or injury that has jaded the Pisces. People talk a lot about that, and indeed any person can suffer from that, but, that's not what the up/down stream is.
You have to first get the above concept about the two realities .... you have to understand that we have already dreamt of what we want life to be and during this time we are so up, we are in clouds of jubliation, soaring happily because everything in the vision is so beautiful, so loving ... you just can't imagine how perfect life is .. inside of the bubble.
Up, up, up ..... soaring
Then once we come to the other side of reality, where all you non-P's live exclusively, we come to realize that you aren't aware of the realities of our life, you cannot live within the expectations of how we dreamt you would be, we become disillusioned ... spiralling down, down, down, down ....
When we are single we are up because we are then making your reality of how you are going to partner with us ... once we are partnered we are down because you cannot live within the fantasy.
You have to first get the above concept about the two realities .... you have to understand that we have already dreamt of what we want life to be and during this time we are so up, we are in clouds of jubliation, soaring happily because everything in the vision is so beautiful, so loving ... you just can't imagine how perfect life is .. inside of the bubble.
Up, up, up ..... soaring
Then once we come to the other side of reality, where all you non-P's live exclusively, we come to realize that you aren't aware of the realities of our life, you cannot live within the expectations of how we dreamt you would be, we become disillusioned ... spiralling down, down, down, down ....
When we are single we are up because we are then making your reality of how you are going to partner with us ... once we are partnered we are down because you cannot live within the fantasy.
In essence .. the up/down stream has nothing to do with anything, or anybody of this reality .. it's about co-existing within the two realms simultaneously ... in which the two cannot ever be on the same page.
Just like ... a Fish could have everything in the world, and still be compelled to spend a gross amount of time alone, dreaming. If we have everything you could imagine, then we are dreaming about going out onto the streets to live like the homeless, so we can relate to them and help them.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ everything is a living contradiction.
Everyone (non-Pisces) needs to think about this in order to get it/us .... if you hear/see us upstream, then on the other side in our other reality, we are suffering something.
Just like ... a Fish could have everything in the world, and still be compelled to spend a gross amount of time alone, dreaming. If we have everything you could imagine, then we are dreaming about going out onto the streets to live like the homeless, so we can relate to them and help them.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ everything is a living contradiction.
Everyone (non-Pisces) needs to think about this in order to get it/us .... if you hear/see us upstream, then on the other side in our other reality, we are suffering something.
"Try this .. call and leave a message of what you want to talk about, but, say something came up and you can't talk right this sec, so you will call back in about an hour ... and I'd wager that the Pisces will answer the phone because they have had time to process what you want to talk about within the realm of the other side."
hehehe..... I am a triple pisces and this is just so true it made me laugh. I wish all people would do this and then I might answer the phone! 🙂
hehehe..... I am a triple pisces and this is just so true it made me laugh. I wish all people would do this and then I might answer the phone! 🙂
It's very exhausting, and it's frightening as hell, which is the main reason why Pisces themselves tend to be in denial about it.
No, I don't think this makes another Pisces easier to get on with in a relationship. I think what makes it easier to relate to with a Pisces is the total understanding of that we live like this, naturally.
If you have a Pisces partner, regularly ask what they are feeling, so you can grasp it. I mean, for real, not for pacifying because we can tell the difference.
We don't need or want a person to understand us on their level of understanding, we want you to feel us on our level of understanding ... there's a difference, especially when the reality is that there are two, and you only comprehend one.
You are coming at us from ONE side of our existence ... how can we possibly own up to what you want of us? The answer is to fully comprehend that there is another side of us, that is obscure, ambiguous to your interpretation ... so the only way to get to us so that we don't keep flipping up/down, in/out of realities is to "get" that there are TWO sides to relate to.
Bijou is likely the only non-Pisces I've ever met in dxp that got that.
No, I don't think this makes another Pisces easier to get on with in a relationship. I think what makes it easier to relate to with a Pisces is the total understanding of that we live like this, naturally.
If you have a Pisces partner, regularly ask what they are feeling, so you can grasp it. I mean, for real, not for pacifying because we can tell the difference.
We don't need or want a person to understand us on their level of understanding, we want you to feel us on our level of understanding ... there's a difference, especially when the reality is that there are two, and you only comprehend one.
You are coming at us from ONE side of our existence ... how can we possibly own up to what you want of us? The answer is to fully comprehend that there is another side of us, that is obscure, ambiguous to your interpretation ... so the only way to get to us so that we don't keep flipping up/down, in/out of realities is to "get" that there are TWO sides to relate to.
Bijou is likely the only non-Pisces I've ever met in dxp that got that.
It's probably also the answer as to why we are naturally both genders inside.
It is said by many Oracles that our soul mate, our guardian angle is our self, our other side of the gender since our souls are androgynous and people are split in two to be able to be born in the physical form for experiencing life in the flesh.
If that is true .. then it's likely that this other side is us actually living with the actuality of our souls.
It is said by many Oracles that our soul mate, our guardian angle is our self, our other side of the gender since our souls are androgynous and people are split in two to be able to be born in the physical form for experiencing life in the flesh.
If that is true .. then it's likely that this other side is us actually living with the actuality of our souls.
Pisces people are bi-sexual .. naturally. There are some who say no to this, but, I believe they are in denial.
"Pisces people are bi-sexual .. naturally. There are some who say no to this, but, I believe they are in denial."
So now because you are bi-sexual,and are a Pisces,you assume all other Pisces are aswell?
So now because you are bi-sexual,and are a Pisces,you assume all other Pisces are aswell?
Love?
Pisces don't really love people ... we do love the idea, though
Pisces don't really love people ... we do love the idea, though
😄..Hi ScorsagianX!..
Nah,Im not worried..Im just intrigued why and how P-angel is making this assumption.
Nah,Im not worried..Im just intrigued why and how P-angel is making this assumption.
So now because you are bi-sexual,and are a Pisces,you assume all other Pisces are aswell?
Im directly addressing this to P-Angel.
Im directly addressing this to P-Angel.
I would believe you two to more homo than the rest of the peoples.
I've said a lot in here, and your only protest is what occurs on the physical side?
When the other side is our natural existence? That side yu don't question?
Only the side where other people might judge you?
Ok.
I've said a lot in here, and your only protest is what occurs on the physical side?
When the other side is our natural existence? That side yu don't question?
Only the side where other people might judge you?
Ok.
Posted by piranhaparadisePosted by P-Angel
First, let me say this .... we envision how our life is, then we live it ... everything. Every single situation that happens to us in life, we dream about it to see how it's going to feel .. then we bring it over to this side of reality, where the non-P's live to share with you our take on the situation.
I'm well aware I do this...infact this is comfort for me...I know people often call me strange the way I process thoughts when my thoughts come out for them to know lol...
I wouldn't want it any other way...envisioning is what I do best, and I need a hell of a lot of space and time to myself just so I can jump to the other side...without the other side
I just can't survive without being there 99% of the time...
So yes I live inside my mind inside where the visions take place...and it soothes me...If you take that time away from me...it is not a pretty sight...and that there is when the dark side of Pisces comes out lolclick to expand
Me too, definitely .. I wouldn't even want to live in an existence where I had to "think" first and feel afterwards. When I look around me I see people who are positively suffering with having to try and make the feelings right from a thought, rather than think to mold their life based off of feelings.
Everyone else is backwards to me, and I wouldn't change a thing, either.
Look just in here at the amount of people who are miserable in their life, trying to force-feed their feelings onto their partner, and have these feelings reciprocated, simply because they think of what they are/want and then try to apply feelings to it ... and in here is a small fraction of all the adults in the world.
We feel it, we experience it through envisioning how it feels .. then make thoughts to describe it to see if anyone else feels it .. if they aren't feeling it, we move on.
If you scroll through the threads we make, rare is the day that you find us upset because of relationship issues. Nope, because if a person isn't feeling it, we just keep it moving.
'Pisces people are bi-sexual .. naturally. There are some who say no to this, but, I believe they are in denial.'
I say no to this,so you believe that I am in denial.
Why?
Is it because that you are bi-sexual,and a Pisces you assert all other Pisces must be also?
I say no to this,so you believe that I am in denial.
Why?
Is it because that you are bi-sexual,and a Pisces you assert all other Pisces must be also?
good read!
Posted by JayDee33
'Pisces people are bi-sexual .. naturally. There are some who say no to this, but, I believe they are in denial.'
I say no to this,so you believe that I am in denial.
Why?
Is it because that you are bi-sexual,and a Pisces you assert all other Pisces must be also?
All Pisces are bi-sexual .. the secret into being able to accept this is to free yourself from believing that you are a physical being first and foremost .. because you are not, physical form and every expression of physical form is not natural to Pisces, it is a condition of existence.
A Pisces man can love a man, just as profoundly as a woman .. dont' get confused about the sexuality part of that 😉
Posted by P-Angel
I would believe you two to more homo than the rest of the peoples.
I've said a lot in here, and your only protest is what occurs on the physical side?
When the other side is our natural existence? That side yu don't question?
Only the side where other people might judge you?
Ok.
That first sentence bettter not be refering to me.I was merely questioning what your grounds were for making such a large generalization.
And I wasnt making any ad hominem attack on you either.
Attack?
Why would you think that?
Look around you .... does it look like I view other people addressing me in terms of attack?
Why would you think that?
Look around you .... does it look like I view other people addressing me in terms of attack?
People amaze me sometimes ... you say that to me as an automatic defense, just in case I might view you as doing that .. and nothing that even resembles a reality of my character.
Just like, my Virgo husband comes home and hollers upon entering the door .. "I'm home" eventhough I can't hear him.
Just like, my Virgo husband comes home and hollers upon entering the door .. "I'm home" eventhough I can't hear him.
People shouldn't confuse living with existing ... unfortunately, confusing the two is so common that people begin to not be able to live in support of life, rather in spite of it.
Thanks for the responce.
A Pisces man can love a man, just as profoundly as a woman .. dont' get confused about the sexuality part of that
If you are talking about a Pisces man being able to 'love' another man,just as profoundly as woman,the type of 'love' that doesnt involve a sex act why do have to use the term bi-sexual?..
A Pisces man can love a man, just as profoundly as a woman .. dont' get confused about the sexuality part of that
If you are talking about a Pisces man being able to 'love' another man,just as profoundly as woman,the type of 'love' that doesnt involve a sex act why do have to use the term bi-sexual?..
Posted by Lena282
This topic is both profound and deeply confusing. Overall I like it.
I agree it is profound... and needlessly,pointlessly,deeply confusing.
The word 'Bi-sexual' here needs to be substituted to something like Bi-gender,Bi-sex or something,or make up a word like gender-dual,...ah whatever Im off to bed.Its late on my side of the world.
As weird as it may seem for an earth sign, I am actually at the very edge of understanding. Thank you P.
You are welcome, my dear 🙂
My other eyes never been this open. P-Angel, thanks to you everything's almost lucid.
As you can see, people heard the word "sex" and couldn't comprehend much after that .... isn't it scary how powerful of a hold sex can have on a person.
This wasn't about the act of sex .. but, people seem to not be able to get past sex.
People read in the news about sexual things that happen ..... preists, rapist, child molesters, and all those bad things ... but, you know, it's obvious to me from just in dxp that when a person hears the word "sex" or reads it .. they lose sensibilities, and the act of sex seems to be their only focus.
Now, if people are that out-of-control of themselves .. then is it really a wonder that there are so many sexual deviants in this world?
The power sex has over people frightens me .... I thank my lucky stars everyday that I was born the exact moment I was
Anyway ... I made it for people to try and understand us.
This wasn't about the act of sex .. but, people seem to not be able to get past sex.
People read in the news about sexual things that happen ..... preists, rapist, child molesters, and all those bad things ... but, you know, it's obvious to me from just in dxp that when a person hears the word "sex" or reads it .. they lose sensibilities, and the act of sex seems to be their only focus.
Now, if people are that out-of-control of themselves .. then is it really a wonder that there are so many sexual deviants in this world?
The power sex has over people frightens me .... I thank my lucky stars everyday that I was born the exact moment I was
Anyway ... I made it for people to try and understand us.
I'm glad you enjoyed ... hopefully, this will help some people who are trying to figure out why we seem so vague.
Posted by LoveBucket
She said the thing with love and Pisces is Pisces need to feel loved, they want to be loved -- that that's very important to them. That's all good, but they don't love the person back?
I work with a Piscean male who I like so much that I wonder at times if he can feel it, if he can even feel me wondering if he feel it!! lol I don't like him in a lusty way or anything even remotely close to that -- I just like him because of how he do his Piscean thing and now that he just married a Leo, and I know, but not factly, that he's said I love you to her, yall got me wondering.
How could you possibly know, measure or be able to determine "how" or "how much" someone loves another? Different people, different ways of loving...
I'm only a Pisces rising but yeah... it is very important for me to feel loved AND a large part of my love for someone else is based on them loving me.
But you say that like it's a bad thing...
I'm with a Pisces, he loves me but does he love me the same way I love him? or does he just love me because I love him? Who knows, who cares!!!! It really isn't something I'd waste my time trying to measure. I just enjoy the loving.
Maybe you should think more about finding a man to love ... and stop worrying about how much your boss loves his wife.
@lovebucket are you only looking for P-Angles opinion?
just like this thread was derailed by the mention of bi-sexuality, all you heard was my last sentence...
and no, I don't only comment on things when a nerve is hit? nice try...
if your interested in your co-worker and his wife is so innocent, you wouldn't have taken offense to my comment
whatever... just read the first three paragraphs of my post then if those sit better with you
just like this thread was derailed by the mention of bi-sexuality, all you heard was my last sentence...
and no, I don't only comment on things when a nerve is hit? nice try...
if your interested in your co-worker and his wife is so innocent, you wouldn't have taken offense to my comment
whatever... just read the first three paragraphs of my post then if those sit better with you
Posted by LoveBucketPosted by shellshocker
@lovebucket are you only looking for P-Angles opinion?
just like this thread was derailed by the mention of bi-sexuality, all you heard was my last sentence...
and no, I don't only comment on things when a nerve is hit? nice try...
if your interested in your co-worker and his wife is so innocent, you wouldn't have taken offense to my comment
whatever... just read the first three paragraphs of my post then if those sit better with you
In order for me to get offended, you've got to first say something offensive when, you said nothing offensive, if anything, defensive, but enough of that because I'm not one of those here who are interested in the back and forth.
Yes, on the re-read, what I posted is that I'd like to hear from P-Angel since she made the statement in her capacity as Pisces and, from Piscean men because when it comes to *some* input, depending, I highly value what men have to say. However, that was yesterday -- today is a new day so I'm off of that subject and on to the next. Toodleloo!! 🙂click to expand
I should probably just let this go but something is tugging at me... your ass needs to get called out!
I've seen some of your posts on here before and yes, I already knew about your Piscean boss and his Leo wife. (I have a memory like an elephant) At first reading your posts about the two I thought... This lovebucket is validating herself through this Leo fiance!
You admire this Pisces so much... not saying you "like" him like that but you have a lot of admiration and respect for him. When you found out his fiance was a Leo it was like you could now wear a badge for the team! You'd pop up with post about how, "Pisces only want the best!" and shit like that. That made me raise an eyebrow...
Now, here you are questioning, 'specifically' if Pisces MALES really love their women? Or if they can love more than one person? and mention how most Pisces guys you know have one main woman and more on the side...
Your ass is suspect. Toodles! 🙂
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First, let me say this .... we envision how our life is, then we live it ... everything. Every single situation that happens to us in life, we dream about it to see how it's going to feel .. then we bring it over to this side of reality, where the non-P's live to share with you our take on the situation.
Have you not noticed that Pisces will sometimes shift/zone for a second or two, their eyes might glaze over ... just fractions of seconds, mind you .. yep, you just said something and we had to shift over to the other side to envision the situation so we could relate.
We might lie, we might evade, avoid, distract, ignore, etc ... and this is the reason why, because until we've been able to envision the situation, we cannot answer you.
I've lived a long ass time in my Fishie self, so I've come to grips with this .. but, most Pisces cannot relate to the realness of this, and have no clue that they live inside the fantasy of how they think life is, rather than how it actually is .. most of them think that they are right here, right now, living as everyone else .. but, they are not .. they are confused and the reason for being confused is because it is normal to them, so they believe that they are like everyone else.
In essence Pisces lives vicariously of how they vision their life to be.