is it possible to motivate a Pisces...

...not to take excess drugs?

he is not THE Pisces of my life..
he is a junior student from my uni.

a very very talented little boy who USED TO do photography, paint, recite poem, sing and above all, he WAS a very brilliant student.

but..last day when i saw him, i was in utter shock. that cute little boy has turned into a match-stick figure with a blank stare in his eyes..
at one time he came close to me n said---"i don't want to take all these..but......(silence)....uhhh..what was i talking about??"

i couldn't say a single word..

isn't there any way to motivate him not to take drugs?...it feels really bad seeing a young talented life going into ashes.

please help..anyone?

i used to take drugs a lot.. not addict status but i love(d) to experiment with drugs but i gotta tell you that taking so many drugs is not healthy for your brain (obviously). it burns you out and i'm in the process of recovering from all of them but i feel like i'm back at that happiness level from before using them. what got me off them were the harder ones.. ecstasy in particular. they leave you feeling depressed and less able to think critically. like you said, that pisces guy stalled in the middle of his sentence and couldn't even finish it. his brain is just about completely dead right now, i'd say haha. give him time to heal; it most likely bothers him too. which is why i quit em. the only drugs i use now are alcohol and tobacco, though i try to stick to the electronic cigarettes which delivers nicotine without the tar and 4000 other chemicals found in cigarette smoke.

just look at this list of the effects of ecstasy..
"mild to extreme mood lift, euphoria
increased willingness to communicate
increase in energy (stimulation)
ego softening
decreased fear, anxiety, and insecurities
feelings of comfort, belonging, and closeness to others
feelings of love and empathy
forgiveness of self and others
a sense of inner peace and acceptance of self, others, and the world
increased awareness & appreciation of music
increased awareness of senses (eating, drinking, smell)
increased tactile sensation (pleasure from the sense of touch and being touched)
life-changing spiritual experiences
sensations bright and intense
urge to hug and kiss people
analgesia, anti-nocioception, decreased pain perception"

one of my dreams is to connect with people on an extremely deep level and ecstasy is good for that.

mushrooms are by far my favorite drug though.
"mood lift, euphoria
giggling, laughter, giddiness
creative, philosophical or deep thinking : ideas flow more easily
boring tasks or entertainment can become more interesting or funny
sensation of insight
life-changing spiritual experience
intense feelings of wonder
paradoxical feeling of a normalcy and deep alteration of psyche
may interrupt cluster sequences in those suffering from cluster headaches"

********creative, philosophical or deep thinking : ideas flow more easily********* that's my shit right there

in the spirit of mushrooms, here's a song for you

No, there's not a damn thing you can do. A Pisces will help themselves or they won't.

Actually, that pretty much goes for all signs. WHY do people keep wanting to live another's life for them?

YOU CHOOSE to be his friend, and accept him though he does things you do not like or understand.. or YOU CHOOSE to not let him affect you by not associating with him. THAT'S the extent of your "control".. aka.. control YOU, you won't control another.

Why do people confuse Pisces with not being able to handle reality?


When the truth is ... we are experts at realizing what is reality, when the other are not .. for the others think there is only one, so only do they even know is there. If we are aware of both realities, then doesn't that make us the ones that know how to handle it?

And second, aPP said, "we like the 'unknown' and living in imaginary worlds in our head lol... and drugs can just enhance that feeling." .... and I'm unclear how this is meant as a warning.

aPP, my dear, you, me, all Fish are going to enjoy the realm of the other world, regardless .. and to have something that enhances it isn't the culprit of it's existence. How does having an enhancer make it there moreso? It's still there, whether you brushing your teeth, giving the dog a bath, tying up your boyfriend, or rolling ... it's still there.

you are already addicted to visiting your other world, whether you are rolling or not

I like shrooms a lot .. they are my high of choice .. weed coming in second. Eh, maybe weed first and shrooms second ... hmmmm, they're both the best.


And if I did get high, it's by choice ... a person wouldn't be able to fix me by means of making me stop getting high because they think it's wrong ... because I don't live for them, they live for them.

Posted by dpriyu

.... isn't there any way to motivate him not to take drugs?...it feels really bad seeing a young talented life going into ashes.

please help..anyone?

What is it with control? You do realize that you cannot determine whether another person is living according to what is good for them? That you can only determine what is good for you?

Speaking of adults, naturally ....

This man you know is living his life according to his desires of his life path ... and you aren't his life director to even think you can make the assessment of where his life is suppose to be taken him.

To ashes his life is going, you say .. you have no clue what this man is doing, or where he wants his life to be, he could be conducting an experiment on himself for his whole life work on the creation of his creation for all you know.

When a person is tripping, they are closer to their true essence than they are during consious awareness ... so, you really cannot determine what is good for his life.

Would you rather die on a long great trip of being happy with your true self?

Or die resenting that you haven't lived enough yet?

well Nefer and P..i don't know from where u guys got the point that i want to control his life..
it just felt bad seeing a talented life getting ruined.
of course it's my point of view that he is ruining his life/chances.. but in his point of view, that would be different and if he is comfortable with it then it's up to him.
but then again..everyone knows the effect of taking excessive drug..n he himself said---"i do not want to take all these...but..." THAT is what made me aware..

if there's no way to bring a young life back from the clutches of EXCESS drug then let it be in that way..

I've never had the slightest curiousity about drugs and have never smoked. BUT, playing the devil's advocate, if i were in excess/addiction, i would want someone to GRAB me "very tight" by the hand and take me out to the back country or some other peaceful solace, away from it ALL to get my physical health and senses back. No, i would not want to be left alone to my own devices. A dangerous or potentially life-threathening altered-state of reality would NOT be my desire at all. Yes, give me that tough-love and action today, not tomorrow, and hopefully i would do the same for someone i really cared about. In the end, it is your own will-power & desire, but that doesn't mean *everyone* wants to be left alone - sometimes people will do things as a silent cry for help.

So yes, there are ways to motivate a pisces - through the realism of action - not more drifting, wallowing and confusion. Imo, it's better to error on the side of doing too much for someone, then not enough.. Where there's life, there's hope.

Tell him, youll call cops and he'll get aressted. Lol nah you just gotta happen to be a great source of wisdom that could affect him in both intellectual n emotional ways. You gotta carry that motivating energy in you to force him to change his mind. Depends how bad hes been consumed by the drugs. I think virgos are by far the strongest motivators. At least to me.

Posted by dpriyu

well Nefer and P..i don't know from where u guys got the point that i want to control his life..
it just felt bad seeing a talented life getting ruined.

You only know what ruins your life ... you make a dramatic plea, using the word, 'clutches' to infer that he is in dire need, use EXCESS in caps .. when in reality you have have no clue about his drug use .. he's just a student at the same university as you.

You know him so little, that you were shocked when you saw him again ... which means, you two dont' keep in contact with each other, for if you did then you wouldn't be in shock upon seeing him again because if he were your friend you would always see him.

This means .. you don't even know him well enough to conclude to what extend he does anythign in his life. You have no sufficient clues about his personal life to use any words to infer that the man is a drug user.

... OR that it's "excessive".. {--- THAT is a word YOU use to quantify and qualify HIS drug use, which is in fact your personal opinion. Unless and until HE also qualifies and quantifies it as "excessive".. he will not seek nor get "help" for this thing HE clearly doesn't see as a problem.

Why do I think you want to control him? Because you barely know him, yet you want to weigh and measure HIS choices about HIS life and make a judgment that he's "in need" of your "help" though he has not asked you for help. THAT is controlling, to try to decide for another what he "should" and "should not" be doing. It's not YOUR choice. He will pay the price and face the consequences for HIS CHOICES.. NOT your responsibility. Did you also try to tell your ex-Pisces what he should and should not be doing with his life, or silently judge him because his choices were not the ones you would have made?

Minding your own life is a full time job, sweetie. How do you have TIME to stick your nose in this fellow student's life, UNASKED?

Also.. "i do not want to take all these...but..."

BUT.. HE DOES. (If it's about drugs indeed.) That's the part I think you're missing.

When he TRULY "does not want".. then he will take other steps to change.. and believe me, when he does, it will be more than walking up to someone he barely knows, hardly ever sees, and mumbling something nearly incoherent about "not wanting" to take drugs but still doing it.

As I said originally.. YOU CAN'T HELP HIM. Until and unless he wants and seeks actual help.. comes to you and says, "Please help me, I'm addicted to these drugs and I want to stop, I need to stop. Help me find a rehab clinic, call my Mom, and drive me there to check in.".. until then, there's nothing you can do.

But, THIS: at one time he came close to me n said---"i don't want to take all these..but......(silence)....uhhh..what was i talking about??"

Who says he was thinking about drugs when he said that? It could have been him thinking about the classes he's signed up for, or thinking of signing up for, or even extra-curricular activities, whatever. The point is.. you have NO idea what he was talking about, but you ASSUME he was saying he didn't want to take drugs.. He was walking along, talking to himself, and you took something out of context, assume it was about drugs AND assumed he wanted or needed your help?

That's a lot of assumptions for a "junior at uni" you hardly know, except in passing.

Hello world!
My names Peter Pan and Im addicted to ganja................and neverland and fairies and lost boys and hooks and big ass alligators
tinklebell thighs
and pixie dust

Posted by kstarks2
GeminiMind, I wonder how funny you think it will be when your loved one is laying out on the street corner strung out on heroin sucking dick in the alley for a hit...talking bout "gimme drugs"

I won't think it's funny. I'll just shrug it off, and leave their ass there. That's what I do. They made their choices, fuck them. They no longer are a "loved one". Harsh? So. Deal.

Posted by everevolvingepithet
*shrugs*
Tough love works, from personal experience.
No stats or studies necessary 🙂

Yep, it works ... no stats or studies to prove it here, niether.

Interventions work very well, but, the people doing them have to know what they are doing, and try on from a textbook.

Posted by dpriyu

but..last day when i saw him, i was in utter shock. that cute little boy has turned into a match-stick figure with a blank stare in his eyes..
at one time he came close to me n said---"i don't want to take all these..but......(silence)....uhhh..what was i talking about??"

i couldn't say a single word..

However, with this situation, dpriyu doesn't even know he's doing drugs, and is basing her assumptions that he's a drug addict off of the above.

1. he lost wieght
2. he changed his train of thought in mid-sentence, to lose focus


Hell, I did that yesterday, and the day before, and the day before that .. and I haven't smoked weed in several weeks .. why?

1. i'm on a diet
2. i'm a Pisces and can easily zone out



Jesus Fucking Christ .... he has done nothing for you to call him that ... you call him a drug addict based on no fact whatsoever ....

Posted by everevolvingepithet
*shrugs*
Tough love works, from personal experience.
No stats or studies necessary 🙂

Hear! Hear!

My Pisces ex is (and has been from an early age) addicted to anything and everything (drugs, sex, whatever) that causes a different sensation from whatever sensation he is currently experiencing. He is able to be persuaded to quit a particular substance by a heartfelt appeal (or by feeling the need to stop on his own), but needs to move on to the next substance to do it. Then the next, then the next, until he's back to the original substance and the merry-go-round continues. He is simply addicted, not addicted to anything in particular. I'm all about experimentation, but his intake is alarmingly excessive. He probably doesn't go an hour or two without some kind of perception alteration and has definitely been damaged by it. If there's a way to help him, no one has ever figured it out.

STILL.A.CHOICE.THAT.THEY.MADE.

I have no sympathy for people who choose weakness over love for themselves. Yeah, tough love works, for those who love themselves enough not to get caught up in a drug addicts world. Let's be real. There's enough information out here for people to know the effects of certain things. If you choose to go down that road, test the waters, try to cheat reality, then I'm going to disappear from your life, and let you do what you do, kill yourself. Better you than me. That goes for anybody. Deal with it. If they loved themselves then we wouldn't be having this conversation, would we? Right.

dear P..
i didn't "assume" that he is into drug.
i know the smell of weed..i myself smoke weed that occasionally.
i know how an individual behaves after taking heroin, cocaine, lsd and so on.

he can take drugs and roam into his dream world, that's not my problem.
my problem is only when it is overdosed.

a person at least has to stay alive to know the "unknown"..
i knew it very well from the beginning that he takes drugs...and i didn't have any problem with that.

but what is bothering me now is that the excessive amount he is taking.

i will not ask him to quit taking drugs..(it feels good when the head is on the cloud.)

i just wanted to know if there is a way to stop the overdosing.

@kstarks2>>

thank u dear.

i haven't said anything to him yet.
from a couple of days he is continuing meeting me, finding some time from his drug schedule.

he comes to me being so high...then talks..n talks..n talks more.
i listen to him patiently and everyday, in the end of conversation he says to me with blank eyes, "please don't get disappointed at me."

this is why i asked the main question because excess of anything isn't good,as far as i know 😢

@Kstarks

NEVER! Why? Because it's not necessary. But, we are talking about narcotics, right? I mean, of course, aspirin, Tylenol, etc. But, barbiturates? No. Pills? No. Needles? No. Cocaine? No. Weed? Yes. Marijuana is not a drug, but a organic stimulant, and is not an addictive substance. But, alcohol can be considered a drug if you want to get technical. I don't drown myself in that shit either. I'm a control freak to the extent of being in control of myself. But, that's just me. *shrugs* I'm not a teacher, but a learner. I've learned by watching other peoples mistakes, so I choose not to be the things that I would never want to become. Again, that's just me. Kstarks, you're a Capricorn, right?

Posted by kstarks2

Posted by GeminiMind
@Kstarks

NEVER! Why? Because it's not necessary. But, we are talking about narcotics, right? I mean, of course, aspirin, Tylenol, etc. But, barbiturates? No. Pills? No. Needles? No. Cocaine? No. Weed? Yes. Marijuana is not a drug, but a organic stimulant, and is not an addictive substance. But, alcohol can be considered a drug if you want to get technical. I don't drown myself in that shit either. I'm a control freak to the extent of being in control of myself. But, that's just me. *shrugs* I'm not a teacher, but a learner. I've learned by watching other peoples mistakes, so I choose not to be the things that I would never want to become. Again, that's just me. Kstarks, you're a Capricorn, right?

Yes I'm a Capricorn, why does that matter?

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It does not. I like to be aware of my surroundings is all, Milady.

Oh, and for the record. I am absolutely NOT an enabler. Especially to Pisces. I have walked away from my own Piscean family members for trying to trap me into their "woe is me" and the "don't you feel sorry for me?" bullshit. I don't play that game, sweets, I will eat them, and they know it. It's because I truly love them, so I would never ENABLE them. Pisces surround themselves with "Enablers" (like the creator of this thread). I hope that you are not one, kstarks. Because if you are, you are in for a lot of pain. Prepare yourself.

Posted by P-Angel

Posted by everevolvingepithet
*shrugs*
Tough love works, from personal experience.
No stats or studies necessary 🙂

Yep, it works ... no stats or studies to prove it here, niether.

Interventions work very well, but, the people doing them have to know what they are doing, and try on from a textbook.

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*not* try from textbooks

Posted by kstarks2
@GeminiMind,

I didn't ask which drug you tried. I asked Have you ever tried any drug before? Essentially your answer is yes because Marijuana IS a drug. The fact that you think otherwise leads me to believe you want me to think you "NEVER" tried a drug before. Which is a lie. You have. Marijuana is a drug.

Do you know the definition of "drug"? Not all drugs are addictive substances. Not all addictive substances addict people. Drugs have different effects on people.

Well, excuse me for being honest. But, it seems that you have a bit of "Tude", so whatever. No, weed is not a drug. We can agree to disagree. But, don't try to sell me on that textbook, boxed intelligence hogwash. I like independent abstract thought. By your definition of "drug" you can say people are drugs, right? But, you seem to be just trying to prove some unprovable point in order to shut me down. So be it. Question: Have you ever been addicted to a man, kstarks? See, you should be careful with the insults, sweets. Like I stated, I like to know my surroundings.

Posted by kstarks2

Posted by GeminiMind
Oh, and for the record. I am absolutely NOT an enabler. Especially to Pisces. I have walked away from my own Piscean family members for trying to trap me into their "woe is me" and the "don't you feel sorry for me?" bullshit. I don't play that game, sweets, I will eat them, and they know it. It's because I truly love them, so I would never ENABLE them. Pisces surround themselves with "Enablers" (like the creator of this thread). I hope that you are not one, kstarks. Because if you are, you are in for a lot of pain. Prepare yourself.

Calm down. You're reaching now...

Enabler? see this is where YOUR problem lies...

Just because I don't walk away from my loved one's who are addicts doesn't make ME an enabler. Addicted individuals?? behaviors are confusing and it takes a very STRONG minded well aware individual to know how to deal with them. and NOT get caught up in their "woe is me" tactic. See you're taking it personally as if this is some sort of character weakness that they have and its not. They are on DRUGS! Not just Pisces but all addicts often hurt those who love them. They can steal, become violent, cheat,lie, use kindness for weakness and so on. And to some (YOU) this is viewed as betrayal because you can't recognize a person is suffering when they are causing YOU pain. This is why I said you fold under pressure and you're the weaker one. You feel angry because can't control what is happening to them.

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Nope! That's just not the way my mind works, sorry. But, I can see how you could to that conclusion. And I'm not hyped up sweets. Really. I just tell like it is. *shrugs*

To become addicted you have to get that first hit. Which is what they are always trying to get, again, yet, never do. What drove that person to that first hit? Weakness, fear, lies, self hate, self deception, and the list could on. No, I will not enable those people who cannot face their fears. I don't have many 'hates'. But, the one hate that I do have, and will always maintain, is cowardice. Which is the foundation for all addicts. If you want to help them and/or enable them, be my guest. That's why there are loving people like you out here. My love is directed towards people who love themselves.

Maybe you should have asked me if I've ever been addicted to anything or anyone? I'd still say....NEVER! But, maybe we just had a misunderstanding.

Posted by kstarks2
oh no no no Geminimind. I have NO attitude. Just a regular discussion. Why are you being so defensive? You just proved my whole point.

I didn't say people are drugs. YOU said that. I asked you the definition.

Obviously i hurt your feelings, but unfortunately for you, there isn't any insult you can ever say to bend my spine of steel, short stuff. Remember that. i'm flattered that you following me around reading my every post. I haven't read anything you've posted beyond this thread so I categorize you as irrelevant...unimportant..and pretty much "loser"

I argue on point whereas you divert from the topic at hand.

What's up with that shit kstarks, huh? I mean really, following you around? C'mon. I'm Gemini woman, I follow EVERYTHING!! No one in particular. On the Home page you and your problems are usually on the front page, sorry, it's true. So don't flatter yourself, you and the problems with your Pisces man are a foregone conclusion and are famous on these boards. Direct your anger towards him, not me babycakes. Or are you addicted to the pain? Right.

I'm not your enemy, sugar. I'd help you before I'd hurt ya. You only proved a point to yourself, not to me. But, like I said, I'd help you before I'd hurt you. You can't hurt me sweets. But if it serves you to think so, maybe that's what you need to do. And as far as me being a "LOSER". Okay. HaHaHaHa! That was good one! Not original! But, a good one! HaHaHa! You be safe out their kiddo. I'm going to go fire up a joint with my Piscean billiards mate. He treats his Cappy wife like shit too, and I talk about him like the dog that he is. If you only knew. HaHaHaHa!! 😄

I agree with geminiminded but for the rest of the general population weed is a drug. You just one person going against a nation of millions. Its hard getting people to see your point of view since there mind is set.

I can dig it bruh. But I don't know who's keeping count, nor would I trust them. *shrugs*

Posted by GeminiMind
I can dig it bruh. But I don't know who's keeping count, nor would I trust them. *shrugs*

Just because the point of view is different doesnt mean you shouldnt trust. Some people grew up listening to mama all their life they too blind to see the world for what it really is or they just dont believe cause "mama" said thats how it is.

Posted by FebruaryFish

... for the rest of the general population weed is a drug. You just one person going against a nation of millions. Its hard getting people to see your point of view since there mind is set.

FF, there can no more be a label 'drugs' as there can be a label of 'love'.

Caffiene is a drug, nicotene is a drug, love is a drug.

To say that weed is as bad a drug for a person as is heroine is a huge leap. It's like saying you love dandilions the exact same level as you love your mother.

Weed was put on this planet for us, it's not man-made .. every plant on this planet is here for us ... carrots, the shade of an elm, the scent of a peonie .. this also include peyote.


An addiction belongs to the person, and not the substance .. don't ever forget that. I have a friend who has never touched a drug, as you would label all to include marijuana, never smoke the first blunt in her life, and is such a raging alcoholic that it's a miracle she hasn't drowned in her own inebriation yet.

So, to say someone has a drug problem is a false statement .. because a drug isn't a problem, it is a tool to utilize while experiencing this problem.

Once this is understood, it is possible to reach a person .... key word person.

If you try to treat the drug addiction .. then you've lost.


Think of Patch Addams .... a person, not a patient

Posted by P-Angel

Posted by FebruaryFish

... for the rest of the general population weed is a drug. You just one person going against a nation of millions. Its hard getting people to see your point of view since there mind is set.

FF, there can no more be a label 'drugs' as there can be a label of 'love'.

Caffiene is a drug, nicotene is a drug, love is a drug.

To say that weed is as bad a drug for a person as is heroine is a huge leap. It's like saying you love dandilions the exact same level as you love your mother.

Weed was put on this planet for us, it's not man-made .. every plant on this planet is here for us ... carrots, the shade of an elm, the scent of a peonie .. this also include peyote.


An addiction belongs to the person, and not the substance .. don't ever forget that. I have a friend who has never touched a drug, as you would label all to include marijuana, never smoke the first blunt in her life, and is such a raging alcoholic that it's a miracle she hasn't drowned in her own inebriation yet.

So, to say someone has a drug problem is a false statement .. because a drug isn't a problem, it is a tool to utilize while experiencing this problem.

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Currently, If you dont live Cali, weed is a crime even tho the plant isnt man-made but man made a rule and the general population sees it as a crime. Crime=bad. the next I get popped by a cop you think I could tell him everything you said and get off of that ticket?

Posted by FebruaryFish

Posted by GeminiMind
I can dig it bruh. But I don't know who's keeping count, nor would I trust them. *shrugs*

Just because the point of view is different doesnt mean you shouldnt trust. Some people grew up listening to mama all their life they too blind to see the world for what it really is or they just dont believe cause "mama" said thats how it is.

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Dude, I'm a statistician by trade. Statistics are the most manipulated thing on this here Earth my man! My mama is a Virgo, and don't listen to shit she has to say either! HaHaHaHa!! But, hey, I pay her mortgage so she should be happy, right? NOT! She's a Virgo, remember? She's never happy! HaHa!

Crime?


If you want to talk about crimes, then I suggest you start a thread about it ... here, we are discussing what a drug is, as it is relative to addiction.


What does you getting popped by cops have to do with me and what I said?

If you're getting popped by cops then have enough sense not to be carrying in your car, Einstien.


Now, if you'd like to address the matter of what is a drug and it's addiction, this thread is open .. if you'd like to discussion geography as it's relative to criminals .. then start a thread.

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Posted by FebruaryFish

Posted by GeminiMind
I can dig it bruh. But I don't know who's keeping count, nor would I trust them. *shrugs*

Just because the point of view is different doesnt mean you shouldnt trust. Some people grew up listening to mama all their life they too blind to see the world for what it really is or they just dont believe cause "mama" said thats how it is.

Dude, I'm a statistician by trade. Statistics are the most manipulated thing on this here Earth my man! My mama is a Virgo, and don't listen to shit she has to say either! HaHaHaHa!! But, hey, I pay her mortgage so she should be happy, right? NOT! She's a Virgo, remember? She's never happy! HaHa!

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Thats you and what you believe....but there is still grown ass people who still believe what mama told them to be true. You cant deny that, and thats the people you would have a hard time converting(to your point of view). For instance, Sally grew up in the church, shes catholic, mama says the catholic religion is the right one everything else is false, Sally believe mama and live her life like that without researching Jews, muslim, baptist, etc, so how she know catholic is right when she doesnt know any other religion? mama told her it was.

Posted by P-Angel
Crime?


If you want to talk about crimes, then I suggest you start a thread about it ... here, we are discussing what a drug is, as it is relative to addiction.


What does you getting popped by cops have to do with me and what I said?

If you're getting popped by cops then have enough sense not to be carrying in your car, Einstien.


Now, if you'd like to address the matter of what is a drug and it's addiction, this thread is open .. if you'd like to discussion geography as it's relative to criminals .. then start a thread.

I thought this thread was about cookies and milk................I glad I didnt start smoking yet or you would blown my muthafucking high. Lets backtrack.
I said "I agree with geminiminded but for the rest of the general population weed is a drug. You just one person going against a nation of millions. Its hard getting people to see your point of view since there mind is set."

You replied to that some with bullshit about
"FF, there can no more be a label 'drugs' as there can be a label of 'love'.
Caffiene is a drug, nicotene is a drug, love is a drug.
To say that weed is as bad a drug for a person as is heroine is a huge leap. It's like saying you love dandilions the exact same level as you love your mother.
Weed was put on this planet for us, it's not man-made .. every plant on this planet is here for us ... carrots, the shade of an elm, the scent of a peonie .. this also include peyote.
An addiction belongs to the person, and not the substance .. don't ever forget that. I have a friend who has never touched a drug, as you would label all to include marijuana, never smoke the first blunt in her life, and is such a raging alcoholic that it's a miracle she hasn't drowned in her own inebriation yet.
So, to say someone has a drug problem is a false statement .. because a drug isn't a problem, it is a tool to utilize while experiencing this problem."
Now what the fuck this has to do with me "agreeing" with Geminiminded's opinion and most of the US fucking A view weed as a drug whether you think so or not.
Lets get to my crime point...which i was replying to this
you said "Weed was put on this planet for us, it's not man-made .. every plant on this planet is here for us ... carrots, the shade of an elm, the scent of a peonie .. this also include peyote."
You comparing weed to carrots, elm, the scent of peonie, if Im i

You comparing weed to carrots, elm, the scent of peonie, if Im in possession of a carrot, elm, or a scented peonie and I get popped by a cop Im not getting a fucking ticket. The thread is about drugs, weed is a drug, illegal and a crime, which fits...here ok

You know what ... maybe you should be smoking pot ... you took two different posts and convoluted them together ... yeah, that's some good herb.



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maybe you should put some thought into why you continue to get popped, though

When you grow some focused thought processes .. look me up

Posted by P-Angel
You know what ... maybe you should be smoking pot ... you took two different posts and convoluted them together ... yeah, that's some good herb.



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maybe you should put some thought into why you continue to get popped, though

Did I say how many times I got popped? No. Stop reaching for shit thats not there. I said the next time. Do you know when was the last time? No. Im just saying if it happens Ill tell the cop the bullshit you said "weed is man-made just like carrots and peonies and blah blah blah" and hope I get out of a ticket. Do me a favor and stand in front the police station smoking a blunt and eating a carrot, and let me know if they pop you for eating eating a carrot and smelling like peonies.

Posted by P-Angel
When you grow some focused thought processes .. look me up

I thought this thread was about drugs. Start a new thread if you wanna talk about focus thought processes hypocrite. In the meantime shut the fuck up if you have no clue what person A and person B is talking about.
Whats that old cliche
ALL IN THE KOOLAID.

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Posted by GeminiMind
I can dig it bruh. But I don't know who's keeping count, nor would I trust them. *shrugs*

Just because the point of view is different doesnt mean you shouldnt trust. Some people grew up listening to mama all their life they too blind to see the world for what it really is or they just dont believe cause "mama" said thats how it is.

Dude, I'm a statistician by trade. Statistics are the most manipulated thing on this here Earth my man! My mama is a Virgo, and don't listen to shit she has to say either! HaHaHaHa!! But, hey, I pay her mortgage so she should be happy, right? NOT! She's a Virgo, remember? She's never happy! HaHa!

Thats you and what you believe....but there is still grown ass people who still believe what mama told them to be true. You cant deny that, and thats the people you would have a hard time converting(to your point of view). For instance, Sally grew up in the church, shes catholic, mama says the catholic religion is the right one everything else is false, Sally believe mama and live her life like that without researching Jews, muslim, baptist, etc, so how she know catholic is right when she doesnt know any other religion? mama told her it was.

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Man, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about! I didn't understand none of that gibber jabber! :\ I'm not trying to "convert" jack shit, money! Gawdayum some of you Pisces are so fucking slow it's downright spooky! Practice whatcha preach son, and stop driving around with shit in your car that you know you can get pinched for! Damn, man, think! The Po Po in the "Dirty" ain't playin wit ya'll bruh! And I believe FACTS, not the opinions, theories, and conjectures of people who are just.......guessing. Fuck that shit! Smoke em if ya got em!! I stand by my original posts. All of them. Addiction is for losers! Especially people who get addicted to people. I'm not an addict, and damn proud of it!

*RUBS KNUCKLES ON ARROGANT CHEST*