Jealousy!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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Another topic. Are you jealous? This is to both, pisces guys and girls. In relationships are you jealous?
If yes, how jealous are you? Do you try to forbid your partner to do things?

My Ex/Still pisces boyfriend (yes well I hate this undefined stuff)is soooooo jealous. He gets jealous about everything and then he gets mad. He hates all my guy friends. He hates not only my guy friends but he hates when I go out with my girl friends to often. He hates me going out without him too often. He hates my facebook, he hates people texting my, he hates people calling me. He would like to through my phone away I think, or at least make sure no one has my number.

I swear when someone text me when I am next to him, I fell like "oh no..." and no, I am not flirting with my guy friends or text with other men. But he is always like " it is late, who is texting you? What can be so important they are texting you at this time of the night?" And it goes on like this.

I mean, I am jealous too. But I dont show it, I am not all like who is this, why is she doing that. Who is calling you, why did you do this etc...

Are you jealous? Or am I overreacting? I mean I am kind of a social person, at least I know a lot of people....
I feel like he doesnt trust me when he acts like that and it sucks because I am not doing anything wrong.
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We broke up a couple of weeks ago and we kind of speak again and are getting back together. Well yes he knows about his status it was his decision to end the relationship and again it is him who wants to try again. Well I am okay with that, I want this to work out anyway.
But thats not the point.

Its not his jealousy right now. I as asking in general. Because for the time we were in serious relationship he was really jealous like I mentioned above.
He doesnt forbid things but he tells me he doesnt like me doing certain stuff. With some things I am okay but others are annyoing. I am jealous, I can be jealous but I dont show it like he does. I wouldnt say dont do this or dont do that.
But he gets angry, and instead of talking to me and saying "well, I dont like this friend of your because..." he acts childish and starts being angry.
And I know he is trying not to show it too much so I am not sure how much more hidden jealousy he has inside.

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"Are you jealous?"

Not particularly. If someone is going to cheat on you they'll do it whether you get jealous or not.

I have a good bit of air in my chart though so I NEED to be allowed to do my own thing and not have someone dictate to me who I can or can't talk to. You either trust me or you don't and if it's the latter then why exactly are you with me?

If you try to make me jealous in order to get a reaction you'll get one, it just won't be the one you expect. 🙂

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This is a good topic...

4fish your Pisces is young so he is very blatant about his jealousy. I think all Fish are jealous they just learn how to handle/hide it better as they get older.

They want to do whatever they want.. the more Air in the chart.. the more you will see this.

They won't fight for you if you are trying to make them jealous.. they will ignore you and get cold.. so that you will stop trying to arouse those feelings in them. They have them already so there is no need to play up on it.

However... they need reassurance so if you are not giving them full attention.. they will do things or mention people/situations that will make you jealous and wait for your reaction. Pisces like it when you get jealous.. makes them feel secure. They will play on your jealousy to make sure you love them. Confusing..

What Miss Pirate said is true.. "You either trust me or you don't and if it's the latter then why exactly are you with me"
BUT.. they will test that "trust".

I don't even think they know they are doing it. So that's why a Fish will rarely "admit" to being jealous...
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Posted by 4fish

We broke up a couple of weeks ago and we kind of speak again and are getting back together.

.... it was his decision to end the relationship and again it is him who wants to try again.

Well I am okay with that, I want this to work out anyway.

But thats not the point.








That is more the point then asking if other people are jealous because other people's qualities/characteristics have nothing to do with this equation.

Do you think that breaking up and then getting back together is going to change him?

Obviously you do. Because you don't seem to notice that you are getting together with the same fucking person.


Seriously ... wtf?
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Posted by 4fish
Another topic. Are you jealous? This is to both, pisces guys and girls. In relationships are you jealous?
If yes, how jealous are you? Do you try to forbid your partner to do things?

My Ex/Still pisces boyfriend (yes well I hate this undefined stuff)is soooooo jealous. He gets jealous about everything and then he gets mad. He hates all my guy friends. He hates not only my guy friends but he hates when I go out with my girl friends to often. He hates me going out without him too often. He hates my facebook, he hates people texting my, he hates people calling me. He would like to through my phone away I think, or at least make sure no one has my number.

I swear when someone text me when I am next to him, I fell like "oh no..." and no, I am not flirting with my guy friends or text with other men. But he is always like " it is late, who is texting you? What can be so important they are texting you at this time of the night?" And it goes on like this.

I mean, I am jealous too. But I dont show it, I am not all like who is this, why is she doing that. Who is calling you, why did you do this etc...

Are you jealous? Or am I overreacting? I mean I am kind of a social person, at least I know a lot of people....
I feel like he doesnt trust me when he acts like that and it sucks because I am not doing anything wrong.



this all sounds pretty normal to me...

to make sure i understand, you are both pisces? please clarify for me, i got confused at the 3rd paragraph where it says "I mean, I am jealous too. But I dont show it, I am not all like who is this, why is she doing that. Who is calling you, why did you do this etc..." This signifies that you are male, at least how i interpreted it...perhaps i read something wrong.

either way, regardless of who is male or female...this sounds like the behaviour of an insecure pisces...i still get like that, but as i've gotten older i've learned that it's best to just not worry about every little thing...it drives people away, it makes you go crazy, act a fool, become unlikeable, etc. and for nothing, usually...if something really is wrong in a relationship, it will make itself known in due time...

--Jack
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Posted by shellshocker

I think all Fish are jealous they just learn how to handle/hide it better as they get older.




omg i so did not see this before i made my post...i'm so bad about reading a post and then seeing something i want to reply to before i read the entire thing...stupid ADHD lol

at least now we know that two people shared the same idea unprovoked...so, it must be true right?? lol 😛

--Jack
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glad to help. after all, pisces first instinct is to help...and we are the emotional servants (water/mutable) of the zodiac...

and i am not sure if there is anything you CAN do to make him feel more secure, seeing as how this an internal issue on his part...the best idea i can think of is to just sit him down, explain your concerns, how this is affecting you and ask if there is anything you can do to make it better...that's typically the generic pisces solution to just about anything lol...

'how can i help?' lol...like we work a drive thru or some shit...lol

--Jack
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Posted by yellow01gt
and by the way, the pisces/pisces couple can be challenging, but also very rewarding...it's nice to have someone around who is THAT much like you in so many ways...but then again, when it comes to same sign relationships, each person needs what the other doesn't have...so it's hit or miss really...

best of luck and keep us posted...

--Jack



yes... sometimes it really really sucks. Like right now 🙂
Thanks for the nice wishes 🙂)
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Posted by 4fish

I am not trying to change him.






Posted by 4fish

... it is him who wants to try again. Well I am okay with that, I want this to work out anyway.
But thats not the point.

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It is the point.

The point isn't that he is jealous, because jealousy is a trait of the person, not the person.

You want it to work out, which means you want it to be different from what it is ... because what it is doesn't work, hence: it broke up.

Are you thick-headed?

They only way to "make it work", is by fixing it ... yet, you say you don't want it to change.



wtf —?



Pisces are so fucked up, dude, seriously ......
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Posted by 4fish
I just want him to want me back.

even more important I hate to loose, I hate to give up.



I'm very curious about these two sentences...

Is your investment in rekindling this relationship more about not facing rejection and "winning"..Or do you really want to be with this guy?

Obviously the extent of his jealousy bothers you... or you wouldn't have create a thread about it and pointed out how you don't like how he gets angry and tries to tell you what to do. Hey, that's ok.. you don't have to like that...

But you should be ready to 'own' the fact you don't like it instead of sweeping it under the rug saying "I don't mind a little jealousy" He doesn't have a little jealousy. He has a lot.

what you have said here is..
he ended it but you didn't think there was anything wrong.. (so why did he end it?)
you find his jealousy a bit much
you want him to want you
you hate to loose

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Obviously anything in excess is tending towards if not outright badness.

Ironic statements of the day to follow: absolutes are dangerous.

Absolutely there is another person involved. Absolutely you can say what the fuck you want and will deal with. Absolutely there is a line of excess and foolery. But to call anyone with even a twinge of jealousy (acted upon or not - this is the problem with your broad statement of which was being pointed out)... was my point about antagonism and close mindedness.

I'll admit to having a jealous streak. Never to the point of forgetting about the other person involved. More of an internalization, which for my own sanity I have worked on (thank goodness). But yes, I will also say, you are touching a nerve to push out there the word "fool" because I a) experience the emotion and b) am big enough to admit to it, instead of pretend I don't have it to fit your form of what is acceptable behaviour.
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Posted by Nicrobliz

And that was my point - to provoke, in the hope that some people here would wake up and smell the coffee. Get on your high horse, nit-pick and make love to the golden PC calf all you want (as a form of detraction because a raw nerve was touched) but such behaviour has a ripple affect among others in the long-term.

It's funny how you omitted what I said about being concerned...

You can discuss, debate and philosophise about politics, morality and the problems in modern society (while patting yourselves on the back for being oh so civilised and intellectual) but, if people looked closer to home, we'd already be half-way to a much better world.




Posted by deezie
Absolutely there is a line of excess and foolery.....
....Never to the point of forgetting about the other person involved....
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Wait... Wait... No... I didn't omit the part about the "concern". I specifically addressed it. Yet again, not in the manner that you find acceptable. Regardless, yes, we covered that you struck a nerve. Because in all honesty, I chose to take your post personally, when it was likely directed at the OP (yes, my mistake - sue me, I take things personally).

I'm not trying to detract - I do it naturally.

And to be fair - I wasn't talking about society. I was talking about you. Everything you are saying can be directly reflected back upon yourself. So.... whilest I'm up here on my high horse (with all of my overtly stated faults in this post and previous), did you notice that you're right at eye level. Stop acting like you're not doing the exact same thing with all your own "civilisation and intellectuality".