Ponderings about my Pisces friend

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I've had Pisces guy friends before. They've all been odd guys but they're cool.

However, this one friend in particular has moments that still leave me a tad puzzled at times.

First off, he's one of the mutual friends with an ex. After the ex and I split, he was the only one who didn't act like an idiot and treat me like the plague, which was nice. The ex broke it off and I was treated like the bad guy. It was lame and kinda pissed me off.

He and I had contact on a semi daily basis, usually through FB because he and I are more into the techy/computer side of things than the other friends. Just bsed and had good convo. He'd talk to me about his girl issues, random stuff, etc.

However, I noticed him distance himself a tad after the ex and I hung out earlier this year. I think he assumed the ex and I hooked up (we didn't). It could be a coincidence, but I'd had an inkling for awhile that maybe he had a tad of a crush. I thought maybe it could be related, but eh. (He also seemed to open up a tad after I'd insinuated that the ex and I hadn't hooked up.)

We still keep in touch, but it's not as frequent as before. He's been consistent in inviting me to the friend/family events too, even if he knew I had work and whatnot. He'd still ask just in case.

On memorial day, last minute, he invited me to a bbq with friends/family. For once, I could make it because I didn't have anything in the way, like work, appointments, etc. However, it was almost an hour away for me and cash has been tight. I really couldn't afford the extra gas plus parking. After much deliberation (and hesitation), I had to decline. I really, really didn't want to, but I was being good. I just felt bad because I had been asking about any potential plans the night before- this assuming that these plans would be at his house/that area (much closer), and now I'm declining. Blegh. 😢

Since then, there's been two more events, one of which I could have made it to and he didn't invite me to (he has in the past), and the other, last night. Wasn't a big deal, and I doubt I would have made it because I had other plans, but I was still kinda wtf that the principle was there. It leaves me wondering if he's being vindictive at all? It's not like I totally expect to be invited to everything, but past history and all.

His seemingly moodswing moments leave me kinda baffled sometimes. :/

It could all be coincidence, but I was curious for some Pisces feedback.
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That's what I'm afraid of. I even told him when I turned down the invite that I felt bad but this was the situation and money at work had been really bad that weekend.

Sure, I was up for doing something, but I didn't think it'd involve driving an hour away plus parking. :/ Dead season at restaurants + several doc's appointments to drive to for my mom each week = financial bullshit. ghjaghjak Gawd, I was frustrated. Often, I have to miss out on things generally because I work weekends and everyone plans things on weekends. For once, something is planned on a day off with nothing else going on and I have to miss now?? Frustration!

Afterward, he ragged on me about not going, how he wished I could have made it, etc.

I dunno why he'd think I wouldn't want to go. I'm always suggesting that we need to hang out and whatnot. However, he does have a tendency to plan things last minute and/or leaves me hanging with details so there are times it's just bad timing.
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Posted by Nights22
Since you are an aries you should just ask him if he is being all moody about it!



Yeah, I know. I've asked him before when he's been moody and he either avoids answering or says "nothing."

I'll figure it out. Thanks for the responses though. I have my ponderings about people at times. :p

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People are weird. Period.



Indeed.

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How poetic. :p



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I loved everything Jim Morrison stood for.

I believe that he died on purpose because one of his obssessions was to experience death/reborn, and how beautiful is that?

There are so many people out here who want to bail on life because they can't handle a little work. They boo-hoo because life isn't handed to them on a silver platter, and think about suicide with pathetic thoughts.


Then there was Jim, who often spoke of life and all it's experiences, and a person who cherished each moment. I mean, here's this famous guy and would often go into the streets and play and sing with people of little signifigance to the world compared to him ..... because eventhough those people were small in fame, they were full of soul and he would never miss an opportunity to feel someones soul, no matter their status.

I loved him .. yes I did.


He wanted to die, and not because he had no hope, not because he thought of himself with useless and miserable thoughts .. he wanted to experience death. He couldn't wait to die, so he could feel the soul leave his body and ascend into the cosmos.

He was a genuine person through and through
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Digging this back up.

Gradually, he's gotten back to being semi talkative again via text (I've been working on him). I attempted to make plans with him yesterday and that was no dice, but he said we should aim for today after. He might be doing x, y, or z. Okay cool.

He gets back to me and says he's out running errands with the parental. Okie doke. Figure nothing is going to come of it and go ahead and do my thing.

I talk to him again tonight and he's got nothing going on.

...kay. :/ Tells me that all his plans fell through for the day. Okay one was fishing axed by errands. What was the other? "Dinner."

So essentially, he really had no intention of hanging out today. Only if he went fishing. Why? Because fishing is free. And he knows I won't pay for him with anything else we do.(He doesn't have a job)

Then I realize that he picks and chooses his plans based on who will pay his way. I didn't even form this line of thinking until after he'd made a comment last night about how he'd only go to a theme park if he didn't have to pay. How was that? "Whoever takes me pays. lol"

He's a fun guy to be around, but fucking a. I'm kinda over this shit. Flakiness, last minute plans, gets butthurt if I can't go to them, but leaves me hanging almost always at this rate.

Not ditching him, but I sure as hell am not making any effort anymore. :/
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Posted by rockyroadicecream
I've had Pisces guy friends before. They've all been odd guys but they're cool.

However, this one friend in particular has moments that still leave me a tad puzzled at times.

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His seemingly moodswing moments leave me kinda baffled sometimes. :/

It could all be coincidence, but I was curious for some Pisces feedback.



it seems like you don't have time for him...

and besides what do you want from him anyway?

the mood swings are never going to go away, so you might want to take note of that...

his behaviour is acceptable in my opinion...

--Jack
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Posted by Nights22
Since you are an aries you should just ask him if he is being all moody about it!



an aries? oh lord...that poor fish...

--Jack



Did you even read the whole thread? Doesn't sound like you did.

You sound as self absorbed as my friend here. As Nights said- Grow up.
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typical aries aggression...it bothers me all of...none....

so, whenever you get through...

i DID read the entire post...and i replied as i went along...so sorry if you read something that bothered you...

and, like it or not, this is a public message board...

i can say whatever the fuck i want to on here...

--Jack
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Posted by Nights22
Since you are an aries you should just ask him if he is being all moody about it!



an aries? oh lord...that poor fish...

--Jack



Did you even read the whole thread? Doesn't sound like you did.

You sound as self absorbed as my friend here. As Nights said- Grow up.



typical aries aggression...it bothers me all of...none....

so, whenever you get through...

i DID read the entire post...and i replied as i went along...so sorry if you read something that bothered you...

and, like it or not, this is a public message board...

i can say whatever the fuck i want to on here...

--Jack
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And so can I, sweetcheeks.

The only thing that "bothered" me was your lack of reading comprehension. But hey, you wanna be all big bad wolf on the internets, go for it.
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Posted by 8835Pisces
Mr. Aries,

If he doesnt have a job, he is bviously strugling in making up his mind of what he can or cant do. no money not enough options. If you didnt have any money what would you do—? ehhhh

Now he wants to hang out with you, but the poor fish thinks about it all day long, and at the last minute to come up with the idea that as much as he wants to he can't really do it...

you are very blunt & funny to me, but Aries need to go pass their anger to be able to use their head & connnect with some emotions sometimes.

& I bet you won't even respect me and will start insulting me because you dont give a dammm who you insult or not.

I have an Aries brother & he is the same frikken way as you Sr...... when pissed off he tells me the worst things ever, I dont text him back, & I dont respond to his voice messages and calls till he gets a hold of himself & thinks like a reasonable person & his anger has calmed down....

I understand where you are coming from, if you don't want to pay then don't pay. If he has no job, you know he can't pay. & if you don't want to pay, then agree with him on going fishing if that is all he can afford..... sheeshhhhh why is that so hard to understand.

... ehhhhh—?



...I'm a female dear. Seriously, pay attention.
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Posted by 8835Pisces
lmfao, oh you are a female?? you always sound like a RUDE abnoxious man.. hahahhahaa

Oh now it makes more sense. HE IS HE, & HE IS A MAN, now I get it. YOU WANT TO WEAR THE PANTS at all times, shhheeshhh..


sorry for you.



Wtf, how did you miss any of that in what I wrote?

And what the hell is wrong with you? I've seen your other posts around here and you always come across like some schizo with zero manners and retorts of a 12 year old. :/
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Posted by rockyroadicecream


It could all be coincidence, but I was curious for some Pisces feedback.



Could be that he had some sort of crush yeah. He invited you and you couldn't make it, perhaps this was his turning point. We don't exactly invite just about anyone to family events.. trust me. This might just be the wake up call he needed to make him think: is this actually going anywhere? Am I make a fool out of myself thinking she wants me back? Do you?

If he feels that you don't return those feelings or give hints that you do, this is just natural. Him retreating a bit, taking some time for himself and to place you in a new spot in his life. If at all. Don't make it complicated, this is quite simple. Straight guys & girls are rarely close friends without one party trying for something more sooner or later. That's the way the cookie crumbles sorry.
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Posted by rockyroadicecream


It could all be coincidence, but I was curious for some Pisces feedback.



Could be that he had some sort of crush yeah. He invited you and you couldn't make it, perhaps this was his turning point. We don't exactly invite just about anyone to family events.. trust me. This might just be the wake up call he needed to make him think: is this actually going anywhere? Am I make a fool out of myself thinking she wants me back? Do you?

If he feels that you don't return those feelings or give hints that you do, this is just natural. Him retreating a bit, taking some time for himself and to place you in a new spot in his life. If at all. Don't make it complicated, this is quite simple. Straight guys & girls are rarely close friends without one party trying for something more sooner or later. That's the way the cookie crumbles sorry.
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Omg we weren't together ever. You guys are killing me here. He's just a friend.

Also note, he knows I don't see him that way. I made it clear I don't date friends of exes.

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Posted by EusiveSoulll
LOL radio....


Poor soul. I can see steam coming out of your ears right now 😉


Honest, I agree with you

Just let him be... some of us fish can truly be flaky

Just keep in mind that fish and aries don't get along for the most part. It is not that either is wrong or right...just different ways of going about things

My moom is an Aries... I'd know 😛 😉



Yes, but I'm a very watery Aries and a cusper. Oddly enough, I've gotten along fine with most Pisces. Long term can be eh, though.

These last few responses remind me of P-Angel- lack of comprehension and making shit up out of info given. Useless posts. :/ Seriously, is it a Pisces thing not to comprehend what's being said and they make up their own tall tales in their head or something?? I see it often on DXP.

The flakiness can be frustrating, but it's this opportunistic bit that bugs. Like I said, I'm not going to make as much effort from here on out.

However, on the bright side, he is opening up to communicating again. It's slow, but gradual. I can live with that.
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Yes, but I'm a very watery Aries and a cusper. Oddly enough, I've gotten along fine with most Pisces. Long term can be eh, though.

These last few responses remind me of P-Angel- lack of comprehension and making shit up out of info given. Useless posts. :/ Seriously, is it a Pisces thing not to comprehend what's being said and they make up their own tall tales in their head or something?? I see it often on DXP.

The flakiness can be frustrating, but it's this opportunistic bit that bugs. Like I said, I'm not going to make as much effort from here on out.

However, on the bright side, he is opening up to communicating again. It's slow, but gradual. I can live with that.



You're giving us one side of a story and ask US for info.
Of course we speak out of our own experience, if you don't like that then don't ask us?
We comprehend far better than you think.

That's why I already know that you're going to keep at it to make him talk, and he's going to keep flaking out.
Have you ever asked him why he didn't invite you? How's that for being proactive instead of coming to a forum and ask stranger to 'make shit up and not comprehend you?' 🙂

Just saying
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Of course we speak out of our own experience, if you don't like that then don't ask us?
We comprehend far better than you think.

That's why I already know that you're going to keep at it to make him talk, and he's going to keep flaking out.
Have you ever asked him why he didn't invite you? How's that for being proactive instead of coming to a forum and ask stranger to 'make shit up and not comprehend you?' 🙂

Just saying



If you comprehended so well then why did you assume that we were together? Go read what I wrote. WHERE did I say that I was ever with this guy? That's what I don't get. So yes, I do question comprehension here.

I already confronted him about not inviting me. He just jerks me around with no direct answer, and then rubs it in. He did it to another friend and I when we both asked him about not inviting us to something else. "You guys are too far. Don't be sad! Besides, I had fun!"

Gee, thanks. :/

In fact, I'm pretty sure I even mentioned how I have confronted him before about stuff like this and his moods and he gives me the runaround.

Comprehension issues indeed....
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Of course we speak out of our own experience, if you don't like that then don't ask us?
We comprehend far better than you think.

That's why I already know that you're going to keep at it to make him talk, and he's going to keep flaking out.
Have you ever asked him why he didn't invite you? How's that for being proactive instead of coming to a forum and ask stranger to 'make shit up and not comprehend you?' 🙂

Just saying



If you comprehended so well then why did you assume that we were together? Go read what I wrote. WHERE did I say that I was ever with this guy? That's what I don't get. So yes, I do question comprehension here.

I already confronted him about not inviting me. He just jerks me around with no direct answer, and then rubs it in. He did it to another friend and I when we both asked him about not inviting us to something else. "You guys are too far. Don't be sad! Besides, I had fun!"

Gee, thanks. :/

In fact, I'm pretty sure I even mentioned how I have confronted him before about stuff like this and his moods and he gives me the runaround.

Comprehension issues indeed....
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I never said you were together. Did you not read what I wrote in my first reply to you making this topic?
Quote me where I say 'you guys were together' 🙂
If you cannot even bother to understand or listen to what people write here, how on earth will you understand another one of us? If you don't like dwelling on this Pisces board *newsflash* you're probably not going to get along with Pisces people easily. Especially since we all have the same basic blueprint.

I won't "guess" anymore why he does what he does, but I know why this Pisces won't answer your questions anymore.
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Posted by EusiveSoulll
I'm glad to hear about your moom. That must be some relief


Thanks. It is for now. 🙂

Tho one fact I do have to agree on Orms has mentioned and I can relate is that I do not invite people I care for to my family gatherings which somewhat goes to support Nigth's initial post suggesting that the guy might have had feelings for you and got lost somewhere along the time line. On the other hand, that should be your problem. I find Aries folks to be rather honest and straight to the point thus I doubt there was any mixed msgs coming from your sine in regards to where you guys stand.



The thing is that I have been very honest and straightforward. I've told him I don't date friends of exes (dating around a group of friends = ew and skanky :/). He's been flirty and tried to get me going with his flirtations, but I ignore them or give a very indifferent reaction. I've seen it from a mile away but never fed into it because I didn't want to encourage squat.

Best thing for your sanity and piece of mind is to not invest much mental energy into it and just deal with him as you deem it to be fit.

He'll come around when he's ready....that's if you feel like having him around at that time.
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Yeah, I know. Whenever I've picked up the distant responses from him, I've backed off and left him alone and just try again later. As of hearing from him recently, I hadn't really communicated with him for a good 2 weeks.

Overall, I'm just going to detach a bit. I don't think he's a bad guy, but I don't think I should be putting much effort into someone who clearly can't be bothered 70 percent of the time.
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I never said you were together. Did you not read what I wrote in my first reply to you making this topic?
Quote me where I say 'you guys were together' 🙂
If you cannot even bother to understand or listen to what people write here, how on earth will you understand another one of us? If you don't like dwelling on this Pisces board *newsflash* you're probably not going to get along with Pisces people easily. Especially since we all have the same basic blueprint.

I won't "guess" anymore why he does what he does, but I know why this Pisces won't answer your questions anymore.



When you say "does she want me back?" it implies "relationship." What the hell are you talking about then if you aren't referring to a relationship?? Nobody I know refers to their friends in that context.

I understand more than you realize. I just choose not to acknowledge some of the bs spewed here because it's so far off base it's ridiculous. Believe it or not, there are snippets of what you said that I've taken into consideration.

And "dwelling?" Seriously? :/
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Lol I kinda feel like lildol coming in on this thread...... ha!

Lmao!!!! The entertainment value in this thread is through the roof!!! I can't stop laughing ....

Hmmmm.... an Aries female...... interesting

I do see a little bit of myself in you..... wow

I have learned a lot from this thread and also had a great laugh ....in a good way....

Hello fishes.... I missed you guys.....
What's good rocky?

Can't blame this on me E..... I had nothing to do with this. 🙂
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Its funny... I'm noticing more women are starting to flirt with me.... I don't mean like at the bars
or clubs.... like at the convenience store or just out and about..... its not like it hadn't happened
in the past .... it just seems like more attractive women are starting to do it now....

Which is quite strange because normally they make you chase them... interesting

* side note... this is the time of the year (right before the major holidays) when a lot of single
women put a little more effort in finding a man..... it seems that way every year around this time.

Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year's Eve, and then Valentine's Day....

I was thinking about making a thread to ask that question. Is that true? Hmmmm
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Hmm.

I have a bit of a different take on this from everyone else.

You said he was also a friend of your ex and the only one who didn't "take sides" when you guys split. Cue him backing off a bit after he knows you've spoken with the ex again and eventually not inviting you to things he had before.

I just wonder if it's not a crush at all but rather he's worried about what your ex, and mutual friend, may think about him having stayed friends with you.

Maybe he's worried that you told your ex about talking to him and hanging out with him and you then declining his next invitation has him thinking "shit have I been overstepping the mark here?" causing him to back off. Or he may worry that your ex thinks more of it than there actually is.

I just know that I hate taking sides myself and have been in situations where I've stayed friends with both parties after a break-up, only to find that by attempting NOT to take sides have been accused of just that.

Just a thought.

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You said he was also a friend of your ex and the only one who didn't "take sides" when you guys split. Cue him backing off a bit after he knows you've spoken with the ex again and eventually not inviting you to things he had before.

I just wonder if it's not a crush at all but rather he's worried about what your ex, and mutual friend, may think about him having stayed friends with you.

Maybe he's worried that you told your ex about talking to him and hanging out with him and you then declining his next invitation has him thinking "shit have I been overstepping the mark here?" causing him to back off. Or he may worry that your ex thinks more of it than there actually is.

I just know that I hate taking sides myself and have been in situations where I've stayed friends with both parties after a break-up, only to find that by attempting NOT to take sides have been accused of just that.

Just a thought.



I get what you're saying but I don't think it's the case. These guys hang out all the time and over the span of 2 years before all this, the ex was well aware that I communicated frequently with the Pisces, so it's not like it's some hidden secret. And I know the Pisces doesn't give an eff. The ex has done some shady bs to him so I doubt he really cares if the ex is butthurt over the fact. I asked him at one point if communicating with me was causing any problems between them and he told me no. The ex seemed a little jealous/butthurt, but the Pisces didn't seem too concerned where he stood and figured the ex just needs to get over it.

I came to the crush conclusion because of how flirty he can get at times. He does the same thing with other girls he likes too.

Btw, never dating someone within a circle of friends ever again. Gawd.