This Pisces is blowing my mind!

I'm a cancer. Last summer I was left reeling by a Scorp. The rejection almost broke me, so I bounced back socially to keep my mind occupied. I met a lot of new people and was sitting around talking at a bbq one evening when this tall, soft spoken dream slides into the chair next to me. One sideways glance at him and my body jumped. After an hour of conversation, I left thinking... "I need to stay the hell away from that man!"

Couldn't be done. 8 months later, I've side stepped my way into his circle of friends. The intensity between us is insane! He looks at me and stares right into my soul. I can read his thoughts, and we transfer emotions back and forth, even when we're nowhere near each other! I know what you're thinking... but it's true. He's a slow moving gentleman. Gentle and compassionate and has a a huge group of friends that he literally takes care of. 1 hour with him and I need to disappear into my shell to get a handle on all the emotions, and he retreats to his fish bowl. I've never had anything like this happen to me before...

The thing is, he has a girlfriend that I've never met and who no one seems to talk about. I know Pisces can stretch out a dead relationship and they always leave a part of their love with an ex. (cancers can do this too) I'm not really into labels like 'boyfriend & girlfriend' and rules regarding relationships and putting expectations on others. But, I don't want to get mixed up in a love triangle either. Situations have arisen where I have to take the existence of 'the girlfriend' into account. I'm a slow mover too and am not ready to even think about the future but I think I have to.

This Pisces is the shit and there is no way I can step away from him. What the hell do I do?

Pussy. 😄

Ha ha... yes it IS bound to happen! But he's not asking for that right now. Gentleman remember...

Thnx. I'm loving the way this is playing out and don't want to get caught up in ego and over think. Trying to go more with intuition. I love my freedom and I'm not clingy AT ALL (aries moon). This was a big problem for the Scorp-ex, but I think it'll be appreciated by this Pisces. I'm a busy girl, but I'll always have time for the L word. Once in, I love BIG!

Um, i think you answered your question when you said he was in a relationship. Unless you can bottle of all those emotions and not make it sexual, then leave it alone.

I'm not perfect, but why walk into pain? You have nothing to move to with a man that's involved, and pisces are also quite private. So just because he doesn't mention the girl doesn't mean she's not the center of his universe. If you can't just be his friend without all this extra wave length, chemistry, eternal bond stuff going on; leave it alone.

And please remember this general rule: Pisces are innate flirts, we just can't help it.

"just go ahead and give up the kitty...

its bound to happen, why fight it, right?"

And:

"I agree. This is all that is going to happen lol"

I'm surprised some think this is just about the physical... interesting...

He is hinting at more than conversation. He acts like he's courting me... he seeks me out if we're out with friends or at his house, he'll walk me to the door and hug me goodbye. He touches me whenever he passes, calls me 'baby'... We talk about our ideals, past experiences, our exchange of thoughts and feelings. He's taken the time to try and explain how he feels things and even how he sees me doing things, in his head. Like, "I bet you _____." Then goes into lengthy detail.

The exchanges our subtle, but nothing about them is surface. I'm going to hold off on the girlfriend conversation for now. So what if he does have one? It's not like I want to be his... or I expect him to make a choice... It's confusing, cause things seem right and wrong at the same time.
Oh well... thanks for listening to me work it out!

Alir0x -
pleasure and pain go hand in hand, do they not? How can you recognize real pleasure, if you haven't felt pain to compare it to? Not saying I'm a sadomasochist like some of you Pisces 😛, but I certainly get it.

It doesn't seem right to shy away from an unconventional situation that feels FANTASTIC, for fear of a little 'ouch'. Then I'd be left to wonder 'what if' or live with a regret... that's not for me. Patience... patience... I guess it's back to my shell.

Posted by shellshocker
Alir0x -
pleasure and pain go hand in hand, do they not? How can you recognize real pleasure, if you haven't felt pain to compare it to? Not saying I'm a sadomasochist like some of you Pisces 😛, but I certainly get it.

It doesn't seem right to shy away from an unconventional situation that feels FANTASTIC, for fear of a little 'ouch'. Then I'd be left to wonder 'what if' or live with a regret... that's not for me. Patience... patience... I guess it's back to my shell.

That's just down right simplistic; and i'm not even being mean. Please remember Karma is real.

Posted by ianthefish
just go ahead and give up the pussy...

its bound to happen, why fight it, right?

LOL

I agree and thus she gets rejected again...by a Pisces

Glutton for punishment some of us women....

Posted by seavixen2
^^ true, BUT she'll be back in a month...
asking what she did wrong and why the fish swam away
she'll do what she wants anyways..she already has her mind made up.
see ya in a few months shellshocker *waves*

True Seavixen....When some women live off of emotions she's bound to get hurt and confused over a man, she will be back because right now she's floating on clouds but a man can make a woman feel low real low if she let him, I think this is one of those real low situations....If I could suggest something to the poster, GET BOTH OF YOUR FEET ON THE GROUND AND FORCE YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE CLOUDS...This guy is not a miracle, he's not super human, he's not this svengali love God that can read women's souls, he's imperfect, he has flaws, I'm sure he farts and belches and scratch his balls like other men, he can't read your soul OMG how you talk about him is borderline ridiculous LOL (no disrespect) I just see you planting all your thoughts on him that may not even be HIM, be him as a reality of what you think you see and feel....

Good luck...

This is exactly the reason I posted here. You guys don't hold back, do you! One foot in dreamland, the other in the real world. I've only posted the dreamy, floaty stuff I think about because that's where it's the most fun. We all have a foolish side... I'm very aware of mine but I also have at least one foot on the ground.

Some of the real world side of things are... I do believe in karma. I also know I wouldn't have much respect for myself, or a man for me, if I made myself available to a guy in a relationship. Where you start in a relationship is how you set the tone... and it would go nowhere. If I did float forward, there wouldn't be any confusion on what went wrong.
There are a ton of things about this guy that are considered flaws. More than farts and ball scratching... But when I met him and his friends, I was dealing with issues of judgement and non-exceptance in my life (can't be around people like that). Who am I to make assumptions on another's character without knowing them? I'm glad I didn't.
I'm teetering on the edge of friendship or more in this situation because a decision has to be made about MYSELF. It's not about catching a fish and keeping him... (not like that's even possible right?)
2 close friends I've had for years are Pisces. Our relationships have always been a give and take, with a lot of respect and understanding. The bond between cancer and pisces can be pretty cool. This is another one of those... just a little more kick to it!

I appreciate your comments, all of them

Is there a girlfriend in this?


It sounds to me as though you are in here trying to figure out where you emotionally stand with this man.


And he isn't available ..... and you now this.

The girlfriend is being harmed by both of you, whether she is aware of it, or not. If you are willing to measure how deep this is, while knowing that there is a woman who has the potential to be emotionally hurt ... and you don't CARE .. that makes you a fucking bitch.

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Is there a girlfriend in this?


It sounds to me as though you are in here trying to figure out where you emotionally stand with this man.


And he isn't available ..... and you now this.

The girlfriend is being harmed by both of you, whether she is aware of it, or not. If you are willing to measure how deep this is, while knowing that there is a woman who has the potential to be emotionally hurt ... and you don't CARE .. that makes you a fucking bitch.

Agreed.

Typical pisces male dog. Plays the victim and tells a fool that his woman isn't living up to his needs while he is in a relationship...*knods heads*.

I agree, ian; people are fucking sick, and you can't even notice the disgust of all the so-called "positive" post that were made by 2/3rds of the people here, just make me want to vomit from the mouth.


Sorry brah, but i see some truth with the way people write about their diatribe.

oh lord... another classic pisces trait... the self righteousness!

Just because I'm not responding to some of the judgements and shit slinging... doesn't mean I'm not getting it...

why waste the energy getting upset?

I haven't even kissed the guy, and already you have me crucified as a foolish whore who makes you vomit, for even entertaining the thought? really?

between the barbs, there is some good advice... I'll take it and move on

someone is beginning to call me "sorti"...next step is to call me "daddy" >=D

😄

Posted by Starfish225
Hmmmmm, well you should always want to start off a relationship on the right foot..You can't start this out wrong and expect it to blossom into something right.. If you do then you have alot of growing to do..Allow him to let her go, if he is in a relationship that is dead and going no where and holding on for dear life, if he feels that you qualify trust me he will let that go. Not that he will be ending it for you but because he has found something better and made a new connection with a female he likes..I have ended things with guys that I really cared about and loved at the time. I walked around still carrying that love> but the minute i felt that i found someone else that i connected with i let go to recieve the new person. Don't get involed with him while he is still involved with this other woman..

BINGO!!!!!

So... I decided to step back.... WAY back and go MIA on the Pisces.

Of course a few days later I run into this man and... the girlfriend. Both of us are cool and calm on the outside... FREAKING on the inside! Walked by each other like neither existed.

What is with water signs and possessiveness? It's not something I'm proud of.
I've limited contact, but the few times I've seen him he's asking me where I've been and who I've been with. The dark side revealed...

The last time, he makes sure I'm within hearing range and starts a conversation with his buddy about ending his current relationship. How it's time to move on...

I couldn't help but smile.

***Pisces isn't for the faint of heart!!!! We are extremely complex...nothing is ever black or white for us
simple things are never simple
Hence the many many many tear-stained posts about Pisces men particularly in this forum.
The best thing you can do is form a bond with him, make him believe that you can take care of him and provide him with things no one else can
weave a fantastic fantasy...BUT YOU BETTER BE ABLE TO MAKE IT REAL****

yeah, tons and tons of grey.
I'm very kind and generous around this guy. I'm only like that when I really like someone, and feel they won't take my nature for granted.
I think I've always been able to incorporate fantasy into my reality. I've done/do some pretty bold things in my life... maybe he sees that.

It really is about the journey with this one... whatever happens, I'm learning a lot.

so what happened shellshocker? Did he actually leave his girlfriend?

Nope, he didn't leave his girlfriend - or she'd be back to smugly gloat. She was here to get reassurance and validation that she should "follow her heart" and go after a TAKEN Pisces man because he looks at her just so, and talks with her just so, and makes her feel and think all these things just so, and it's destiny and love and hearts and flowers and stars. She wanted our permission to poach on another woman's man, but we don't tell you what you want to hear on these boards. Do what you want, especially when it's clear you've already made up your mind, no matter what we say. But don't come crying to us when he fucks you and then fucks you over.

So THEN she ran into the Pisces AND his girlfriend (that I think shellshocker was HOPING was just a little rumor or flawed assumption) and she seems to think she knows WHY he was "freaking" inside as he pretended she didn't exist... if he WAS freaking inside, I daresay it's because he was afraid there might be a scene.. shellshocker seems quite borderline obsessive and there's NO WAY that Mr. Pisces didn't pick up on this. Fun to flirt with, and the tension and intensity pretty thrilling... but shellshocker should come with a warning label that someone *other* than a Pisces can read, one that says, "BEWARE: POTENTIAL HOMEWRECKER!" LOL

Posted by seavixen2
hey tiki! *waves*

shellshocker...
yeah, right now all you see with him are sunny skies, holding hands, eyelid kisses, and sweet whispers...
if you REALLY want to see the reality...then sleep with him~ it will be mind blowing and unlike anything you've ever felt (DAMN PISCES!)
but soon that will fade because the harsh reality is that he belongs to someone else.
Pisces that cheat *no good*....we believe in karma as well, and a guilt ridden Pisces is a rollarcoaster ride. (if he wants to be with you after, he will..but he'll run back to his girlfriend in guilt, then he'll run back to you, then back to her)---> some of us have A REAL HARD TIME DOING WHATS BEST FOR US AND NOT OTHERS

Pisces almost always puts others happiness before our own.
The Piscean indecisiveness is epic

Pisces are always looking for the dreamy shit and when deceive ourselves it's crushing.
He very well will sleep you, he very well may leave his GF for you...
but he won't be happy because you weren't attained in a destined fashion.

so true suh gentlemen ... But I do believe they go back to their old loves to suffer more with them looking to work things out even when they know it's over. I got that sense from my Pisces when he talked about his ex.... But I'll never know I guess ..these Pisces guys love flirtig make you fall for them and disappear!!

Nah... that didn't happen. I came here to get advice because I was conflicted.

I backed off the Pisces, because I made the decision that I wasn't going to fuck with another person's emotions (the girlfriends) and karma (my own). And yeah, he did pick up on my tension when I saw them, just as I picked up on his. I know this because we talked about it. I don't think it was a coincidence that I ran into them a few days after posting here... but then again maybe I'm just crazy. He also knows I'm not the type to cause a scene.

This guy is in a relationship and it doesn't matter if it's dead or not. Even if they do break up, past relationships take reflection so you don't repeat destructive patterns. You need time to get over that person, so he would probably be emotionally unavailable for a while anyway.

BUT, we have a connection... and the flowy, mystic shit still happens. It's not love.. it's just a connection. Our friends are intertwined so we see each other often, and it's cool because the boundaries have been established. Honestly, I think he likes me more now. You Pisces... wanting what's just out of reach.

I'm genuine Nefer, and cute. I won't STAY obsessed with a guy if things aren't flowing in the right direction.
There are many available distractions around... One I recently met is yet another Pisces! Not the same vibe as this one, but still... the fish are fun.

How come there is no reference to the fact that this Pisces was all over me, even with a girlfriend that he failed to mention he had? I could only be a HOMEWRECKER if he was willing to let me be.

I see this guy every week, sometimes twice... out dancing, at birthday parties, at dinners; most of these at HIS house. The girlfriend is NEVER there... so yeah, I did think she was a bit of a rumor. A few months back, I guessed his birthday.. plucked it right out of his head, the day before the actual date. He looks at me in disbelief. I later find out NO ONE knows his bday because he doesn't like to make it a big deal. Not even his best friend OR girlfriend knew the exact date... weird.

If the girlfriend is stuck in a tower somewhere and only gets to see him, on HIS schedule when HE wants... then I'd rather be the 'friend' that gets to hang out and enjoy.
Don't listen to what a Pisces says... pay attention to what they do.

I agree 🙂 Gosh damn Pisces men!

Holy crap I've come a long way.

I still remember all the hate I got on this and I really, really deserved it. So many people who commented deleted and are gone... but I still remember them. P-Angel and IantheFish tore me a new asshole!

Anyway... there is a lot of grey in this story.. but it's real!


So... what ever happened with the Scorpio?

Here is the Male fishes side of the story. They are very private and you rarely get to hear such things. But I have permission..

His version of how it ended...

He likes to dominate so he was firm about some things. Wanted her to see things from his perspective. Wanted her to understand how things worked in his world.

Things worked differently in hers. She wanted to —save?? him from himself. His choices, his insights, and the path he was drawn to. She was smart, so when she told him how he should look, where he should go and what he should aim for... he listened. he didn't agree... but could see her side of things. He questioned, pondered and wondered.

She could not see his side. She wanted the relationship to move in a certain direction, that met her satisfaction... even though he was reluctant. She wanted things to move at a certain pace.. even though that was not his style . She became increasingly judgemental, critical and hyper sensitive. She did not want to discuss her feelings. She only wanted to discuss her needs.

So when he began to resist her demands and she in turn resisted his views... a drift began to happen. Distance and lack of communication. The more she pushed.. the more he resisted. He became increasingly silent. And she became increasingly hostile.

And when his interest began to turn... he felt guilt. When he could not meet her demands... he felt guilt. pain.confusion. The distance and the arguments increased.

And when she sensed she was loosing him... she created a web of drama to end things and teach him a lesson.
She went to his friend. She cried on his shoulder about how her needs weren't being met. She asked him questions. She drew conclusions that weren't true. She let her imagination get the better of her.

And instead of talking about her thoughts and fears. Instead of speaking about her doubts and confusion... she acted on her delusion and suspicions... and she slept with that —friend??. Sting.

Then she said nothing. She sat back and waited for the drama to unfold. He sensed something. Somehow he knew. But she said nothing. She would just smile and ask him what was wrong. Then she would continue to talk about what she wanted. Not about her feelings. Not about what she did. His anger towards her grew. But it was riddled with confusion and guilt. Why? why? Why? What the fuck was going on here? What the fuck had he done wrong?

But he didn't directly act. He just became increasingly cold and distant. Resentful and silent. Absent. She got nothing out of him. So she dumped him.

She broke up with him... without any explanation. She refused to talk about it. She refused to speak to him again. She refused to confess.

Only when she heard of his possible happiness with another did she resurface and want to speak. To tell her side of things.. and how surprised he might be by his —friends?? actions. How she was seduced and it was his fault because he didn't choose her. and her way of doing things. and denied himself salvation with her.. but chose —these?? people who would stoop so low as to seduce her in her time of pain. The pain which he had caused her because he wouldn't do things her way.

No admission of guilt. No apology for her betrayal. Only justification.

tHe eNd

Posted by xxnightbynight
ShellShocker - are you talking about the Pisces or the Scorpio? - Either way - this sounds like a very VERY similar story with me and my ex (also a pisces) and the time line is almost exact too... so weird.

Hope all is well now with ya! 😄

I'm the Cancer (who backed off) He's the Pisces and the Scorpio was the girlfriend (now obviously ex)

small world, huh?

Posted by piscespassion
So shellshocker are you now with that same Pisces?

Yup! 🙂 A year of bringing friends since that last post in 2010. Then a year in a relationship since 2011.

good things come to those who wait...

Posted by shellshocker

I'm genuine Nefer, and cute. I won't STAY obsessed with a guy if things aren't flowing in the right direction.
There are many available distractions around... One I recently met is yet another Pisces! Not the same vibe as this one, but still... the fish are fun.

I had to laugh at this part...

This other Pisces I met, just at the time it was clear I needed to step away from this situation... turned out to also be a Feb.22 Fish! can you say, wtf?

do you believe in magik?

Hey Shellshocker, I'm a Pisces with an Aries moon.. and I've never been clingy before until I met a Cancer Man.. 😄 Any other man, I wouldn't be patient with and just swim away.. I hope our story ends up happily ever after too! lol