Virgo Father and Pisces Son

One of my neighbors is a Virgo Man married to an Aries Woman. They have two sons: the eldest is a Cappy, and the youngest is a Pisces. Both boys are preteens.

The Dad has remarked to me more than once that the younger son: "Ain't nothing like me or his mother!"

I agree. He is nothing like his parents, or his older brother. He's warm, open, self-deprecating, and overweight. Completely opposite to his family members, who are tall, slender, and taciturn.

He also confided in me that he has dreams that often come true. I told him that kids are much more sensitive to things than adults, and that he may be more sensitive than others his age as well.

I've seen his Dad lean on him more than the Cappy Son, but he's younger, and may need the extra scolding. But, I also think it's hard for his Dad to get a handle on where his boy is coming from...

I didn't always get along with my Virgo Dad, and I'm a Virgo...

Did any of you Pisces guys have a Virgo Father? What was your relationship like?

How is the relationship between the Cap brother & Pisces brother? Just curious. I've seen/heard that male Caps & male Pisces don't really get along together (it's different when the genders are reversed though, eg, Female Cap & Male Pisces are good together)

I think the Virgo father just wants his son to be a bit 'tougher'. After all, if he married an Aries woman, he probably respects strength in people....and so probably wants his Pisces son to develop the same strength. The father's occupation may be a factor too. Is he in law enforcement, armed forces, etc?

How is the relationship between the Cap brother & Pisces brother?

They get along okay, though the Cap is definitely the Leader (but that could be due to birth order). The Cap is also much more critical (and bossy!) towards the Pisces.

The Virgo Father works for an equipment rental company - bulldozers, backhoes, etc. He's a big time hunter, and the Pisces is not a very good shot. It's like, he just consistently falls short of the mark for his Dad...

And yet: I like him better than the Cappy Son.

Yes, I do. Virgo Father/Capricorn mother...
Needless to say it was interesting growing up, in that me and my father hardly talk. Or if we do its to discuss the latest matters around me and business, something I've done wrong (less discussing more inane yelling), doing some passive thing against me, or just talking my ear off for an hour while slowly leaving my room.
He always showed disappointment in that I wasn't into sports much as he was (The man ran 2 miles under 12 minutes with a bum leg in college...Not even getting run over by a truck stopped him)

Well he was really strict on me, though to me he was opinionated, whiny, ignorant, Always had to be right and was, racist (its infuriating how its based in logic and past experiences...odd), Argumentative (He'll bold face lie and say he's not bringing up and argument when he's the one goading for one to happen), Way to into how honest he is, and nit picks just off the top of my head.
I remember always feeling offended because he disliked my sister (she's a cancer, Got along with great...she was there every now and then to get me out of the house when parents fought) only because she reminded him of his mother or sister...right now I can't tell anymore. Now my sis was the type who got straight A's, partied, and played Tetris stoned. now she is a school teacher, has two kids, a great husband...and a VERY good life. My dad however...still dislikes her and holds a grudge.
That seemed to be a thing with him...once a button was pushed its down forever.
I dis-obeyed him really only once, Last year. I was an hour late getting home past my midnight curfew. I was regaled with how he thinks my friends are nothing more than Stoners, whores, Low lifes, and just plain trash. (He hates all my friends...and people in general it seems. Always something wrong with them.)

Also its hard to grow up with someone who frequently bashes you as you try to play an instrument, draw/paint a picture, dance...etc.(If you couldn't do it perfectly) Anything creative was met with stark criticism and how it wasn't fitting. Even when I played soccer he always complained.
The way he does it too is annoying as hell. He complains through his compliments. He also complains through his suggestions on how I should do things, "Well son I also read about those three discharges you can get, so if it doesn't work out for you you can always try that neutral one." Normally a decent comment...but after the 2-6 times he mentioned it...it got o

Course that just off the top of my head there...and sorry for the wall of text...didn't realize it was that big untill I hit the cap. And yes this contains a negative tone in it.

"It got old" was how that should've ended.

Bramwell: He complains through his compliments. He also complains through his suggestions on how I should do things

Yeah, I've witnessed it, and it makes me wince. Virgos can be masters of the back-handed compliment - though we seldom use that on people we profess to care about...

In my heart, I know this Virgo Dad loves his Pisces Son. He simply doesn't understand the boy.

Hi Bramwell 🙂

Yes, I do. Virgo Father/Capricorn mother...


hmmm


Well he was really strict on me, though to me he was opinionated, whiny, ignorant, Always had to be right and was, racist (its infuriating how its based in logic and past experiences...odd), Argumentative (He'll bold face lie and say he's not bringing up and argument when he's the one goading for one to happen), Way to into how honest he is, and nit picks just off the top of my head.


Sounds like my dad but he was a Scorpio lol I think he had alot of virgo in his chart actually :/


Now my sis was the type who got straight A's, partied, and played Tetris stoned. now she is a school teacher, has two kids, a great husband...and a VERY good life. My dad however...still dislikes her and holds a grudge.


I can see that, my Virgo brother doesn't seem to like those who seem to be doing better than him.


That seemed to be a thing with him...once a button was pushed its down forever.

That totally sounds like my step-dad, he's like that too. His moon is in Taurus -- most of them with the moons in taurus can be a bit rough.


I dis-obeyed him really only once, Last year. I was an hour late getting home past my midnight curfew. I was regaled with how he thinks my friends are nothing more than Stoners, whores, Low lifes, and just plain trash. (He hates all my friends...and people in general it seems. Always something wrong with them.)


Whoa ... damn Nevermind, his moon must be in capricorn ...


Also its hard to grow up with someone who frequently bashes you as you try to play an instrument, draw/paint a picture, dance...etc.(If you couldn't do it perfectly) Anything creative was met with stark criticism and how it wasn't fitting. Even when I played soccer he always complained.

My step-dad didn't come into my life really until I was like a teen but even then it felt as if I couldn't do anything right. He's totally not the kind of guy to say, "I'm proud of you" or whatever.


The way he does it too is annoying as hell. He complains through his compliments. He also complains through his suggestions on how I should do things, "Well son I also read about those three discharges you can get, so if it doesn't work out for you you can always try that neutral one."

Sounds like my ex-virgo boyfriend. He would give me compliments, but he would bitch and moon about ... shit.

My uncle is a virgo, and his son is a pisces. They don't live together, but the relationship is not very good.
My uncle does come off as being overbearing when asking his son questions, but these are always questions about his education.
My cousin has been skipping school since elementary and barely finished high school. Last year my cousin broke the ice and sent my uncle a mailed letter saying he wants to go to college and get an education. My uncle was happy to hear, bought him a lap top and paid for his first semester...and hasn't heard from him since. My cousin is ignoring him once again.

NO ...and thank gawd for that. That would be a nightmare for me. I grew up with a libra father...that was bad enough.

PD

Me too PD.
My Dad was my hero for a long time and then he lost his friggin mind one day. Up and walked out without warning for another (younger) woman and HER kids. He had no remorse about it either. 😢

Posted by No1delete2

P😱 I grew up with a libra father...that was bad enough.

Really?? I would think a Libra Dad would be much easier to get along with than some others...

Ginger: Up and walked out without warning for another (younger) woman and HER kids.

That sucks!

But, I've seen other guys do similar things when they hit 35 to 40 -- they go nutz, and do things you'd never expect... Male menopause??

Probably DA. He and mom had me when they were still in high school. So ... he lost most of his childhood due to having me 😢 Makes me feel somewhat responsible which is why I took it the most personal.
My bro is a Pisces and that messed him up ALOT. My Dad was always hard on him though. He forced him to play football and do "manly" things before he left. It wasn't hard to tell that Dad was disappointed that I was born a girl(before I was born he called me Jr. and had a mini football jersey made for me that looked like his that he wore. They thought I was a boy 😛) and that my bro REALLY disappointed him as a son.

It's like he left to start fresh with a new family because we weren't what he wanted.

*DY* not DA. Sorry *blush*

To be honest its not the worst thing in the world. I mean sure we come at odds with each other all the time, and he is a control freak. But I have to admit, if it wasn't for him we wouldn't be where we are right now. Plus I only have to listen about how his mother was worse than him and I can sort of see how he keeps thinking that his mother was the Satan of earth. (My mother believes it too as they had to live with her for two years before they finally got back on their feet...two decades ago-ish?) Not to mention terrible ties with his own father who left his sister, and his mom when he was two.
He is overly paranoid and general, and has this un-godly temper and rage. He blames the temper on the family genetics though so I have no idea if its an actual Virgo or whatever plagues his chart's trait.
And yes he is a complete hypochondriac and has complete fear of not being in control of a given situation.
Heck one of the major reasons why my sister and him never got along was because she never took his crap and never stopped to argue right back at him. (go cancer sister.)
Granted after taking I would say 16 years of his crap, for good or for mostly ill it seems, he's gotten extremely annoying.
Mostly Because he Loves?? to monologue on and on about some topic or other.
And the usual snide glib about how he thinks of a certain situation should be this way and not that way and it may be better.

Though that's something I would like to ask right now, is it really a Virgo trait to completely lose it in a fit of rage? For really any reason at all no matter how minor it seems?
I decided one day, around last week I believe??_.he asked me if he said something that upsetted me. I answered yes and that it was throughout mostly the day (He was regaling how the military was for the loser??s in life and that my best friend who was going into the military, was a loser too who couldn't think for himself??_etc), and he got curious??_and asked me why? I answered because I didn't agree, and that's when he just left silently as could be. Later that night he said I was challenging his authority, and making snide comments about how I am ungrateful.

(yes, Bramwell again, got tired of the name)

Posted by No1delete2

P😱 I grew up with a libra father...that was bad enough.

Really?? I would think a Libra Dad would be much easier to get along with than some others...

Ginger: Up and walked out without warning for another (younger) woman and HER kids.

That sucks!

But, I've seen other guys do similar things when they hit 35 to 40 -- they go nutz, and do things you'd never expect... Male menopause??

Dy - My grandfather seems like he is on two spectrums of the scale......really great or sometimes real asshole. *sigh* He really knows how to push my buttons. Me and Cappy grandmother get along well for the most part ...I just find a bit needy ....but she is still loving. Perhaps this is not an astrological thing but more old latin american traditions .....grandfather is still trying to control me at 38 ....geesh. I don't think I could deal with an overly critical virgo parent.

PD

I'm a Pisces daughter with a Virgo mother.

I LOVE my Mom, make no mistake about that. But honestly, I only partially understand her, and she doesn't understand me at all. Makes a valiant effort to -- or maybe just gave up trying to understand and/or change me... and now just accepts me.

She's logical; I'm emotional. She's practical; I'm intuitive. She's rigid; I'm adaptable. She's uptight; I'm easy-going. She's judgmental; I'm accepting. She's critical; I'm compassionate. She's a skeptic; I'm open-minded. She's proper; I'm improper. She worries about what people think; I couldn't care less. She's modest; I'm proud. She's sensible; I'm crazy.

We're polar opposites. But I'm lucky she was a very good and loving mother, even if her oldest child completely baffled her. 🙂

Posted by Shaks
how can you fishies not be thankful? thanks to your virgo parents you grew up to be the bastards you are now 😉

I was born six days before my parents' first wedding anniversary, and they're still married to this day. That makes me NOT a bastard, thank you very much!

😛

Even worse - Libra father partnered with a Pisces son, he [son] should have been aborted; the life style stinked, was broken, abandoned, and homeless, that stupid prick is overly concerned about himself and his image than others, and his son. I hate him and he's dead, literally. Now, I'm an architecture graduate; thanks to grandma'.

Posted by lalalala
Even worse - Libra father partnered with a Pisces son, he [son] should have been aborted; the life style stinked, was broken, abandoned, and homeless, that stupid prick is overly concerned about himself and his image than others, and his son. I hate him and he's dead, literally. Now, I'm an architecture graduate; thanks to grandma'.

That is awesome lalala ...how you came out on top. Congrats on your victory. I was raised by my grandparents too. My grandfather is the libra. My gem mother had me when she was 15, in a catholic upbringing in the 70's was not a good thing. I am definately more close to my cappy grandmother.

PD