What am i doing wrong with my charming Pisces man?

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Hallo All! First off, many thanks for all the pisces girls and men out there who were very informative in explaining thier likes and dislikes, especially 'thefish', hope u stumble on this post as well 😄. You guys helped me alot in understanding my pisces man.

Ive been dating him for about 7 weeks now, he is 34, March 16, 76, and im a gemini, June 17, 84. We get along a lot, i guess since i have Mars and Neptune in scorpio, and his mars in gemini, aaaaaaanyways, heres my story, i hope il be able to sum t up as short as i can:

We met in a new sports bar opening; he was wearing a beret hat and was in my same group of friends, Ihe looked so calm and passive and charming, I was so curious what his sign was, so when our eyes met, I did a come here motion, nothing bitchy or slutty, very friendly, I hguess it was ok since we were all hanging around the same area/bar with our COMMON friends, I asked if he was an aqua, he said no, so I said then it much be a pisces, and needless to say he was stunned that I could tell. We started talking about astrology, psychology etc, and we cud both sense the flame and connection,
The next day I go to a friends house, and he was there, we clicked even more and talked non stop, like the whole environment around us did not exist, he would put his palm on the back of my lower back whenever we stood facing each other and chating, he would pour my glass of wine and treat me like a lady, he was so sweet and gentle and SHY, 3-4 hours later, he wasn't shy at all, he took to show me the friends house, since its new and fancy, he stole a kiss from me, a deep long kiss, I tried to resist but coudnt, we ended up kissing and kissing for like 50 minutes, it was beautiful.
Now ever since that day, I realized hes very shy and hardly initiates, its like hes waiting for me to start the communication or to be the one to ask him out, which kinda shocked me coz hes the one who did that brave mood and was aggressively making out with me. SO knowing hes the shy one, I would gently approach him every few days, I don't like calling people, id rather text them so they can respond on their convenience, so I was never a nag or clingy, yet its always me to initiates, he only asked me out twice, once for a ride, and once for valentines day, (which I found was the sweetest thing, since we only met few weeks b4 that).
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Sorry if the gemeni in me is not getting to the point!! Ok, so to make a long story short, he is a typical pisces, shy, down, very attached to his family and connected with the vibes his surrounding and environment offers, he works closely with his dad, he has his solitary moments a lot, he gets quite moody, and wouldn't go out or join plans whenever hes in one of his moods, and guess what? I completely understand him and never complain, he never even told me that the reason he doesn't join is because hes not feeling it or not in the mood, he would come up with an excuse and I would completely accept it, I know he just doesn't wana hurt me, and its nothing personal, so I play along, and am aaaaalways understanding.

When we??re together, the flame is there, the intellectual connection is there, but whenever we??re apart, communication is too slow and too direct, sometimes he never replies to my text messages, but later would text me that hes sorry, and its just that he have been having things on his mind lately, and he doesn't mean to be disrespectful when not responding.

Now, THIS IS WHAT I CALL DIRESPECTFUL: 2 days back, I told him lets go to this nice lounge that plays jazz with x , y and z (he knows them, this way he can relate and not feel stressed about joining people he doesn't know), he asked me what time, I texted him back and said between 8 and 8:30, is that suitable for you? And guess what? He haven't replied till NOW!! Its been 3 days! How rude is that? I guess he expects me to know that ocne again, he didn't respond and I have to know that he —doesn't mean to be disrespectful??. But doesn't he know that id rather hear him say NO thank you rather than no reply at all? Its OKKK to say no, its normal, its ok not to respond bcoz u don't know how ur —mood?? will be by the time its time to go out, I understand all that and accept it, last night I texted him and told him —just wana let u know I forgive u for not responding the other day (wink wink), and that know that the sky is clear above my head, and that I understand), still, no repy, 😢—

What am I doing wrong guys, pllllllllz forgive me for the long post, I already omitted many things and tried to make it as short as possible!
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leelaa
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ok so update, i just emailed him the below, what do u guys think? Will it scare him off? or make him feel better?

Hey charmed
Hope you're enjoying the sunny day today!
I wanted to text you this but i figured it was too long. I have been wanting to call you lately and to check up on you, but I don't, because I feel like ur the type that like to be away until 'YOU' are ready to approach any one, because u have your own things going with you, family work etc??_ you need your solitary time, i relate to that. THATS WHY I only ask u to go out when I'm going out with a group, and not just the 2 of us, so u can feel free to say no and not feel any kind of pressure, its my way of wanting to see u 😛. Its ok to say no, it's normal and I wont take it personal, you just don't feel like it??_ thats all, it is as simple as that. Anyways, just needed to say this to you, incase you're not reading me right... And can u do me a favor? It kinda hurts when u dont respond to a question, like i said, its ok to say 'no or maybe or depends' , seriously. Its better than no response at all... thats all i ask 🙂
So no more outing suggestions for u 😛, i'll leave it to u from now on, except for this one 😛, tomorrow is RV's opening, i'll call you tomorrow and see if u can join?
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thefish
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Your first confusion. If he had had anything to drink his bravery was born of that. My girlfriend was doing hoola hoop tricks the night before last. I was about 3 glasses of wine in and was watching from the corner of my eye as her and her friend were doing these hoola hoop trick videos on you tube. Then i decided it was go time. So i picker her up threw her over my shoulder and said to her friend she will be back in a bit feel free to keep doing your thing and have some wine. We were off to bed. She totally loved that of course but the booze was my bravery otherwise i would have just thought it and it would never have come to fruition.

We require alone time but like to be checked up on. Even if we dont answer. I can tell you he reads everything you send him. But somethings wrong between the two of you somewhere here at least thats how it sounds. Theres something hes not telling you and he wants you to figure out. Grand gestures of romance and the gifts of physical interest are your greatest weapons or tools with a pisces man. We respond to fantasy and the grand but the subtle has meaning as well.

If hes distant i thougth about what nefer suggested. It works with me as well. You need to be there with him physically and touch him when your talking to him. On the shoulder or the hand, wherever. But it brings a realism to what your saying and grounds him as you do so. Texts and emails allow him to imagine you without you being present or real. The longer you allow him to escape the less chance youll become reality for him.

My suggestion is show up wherever you can that he would be alone. Hug him like you care and talk to him as suggested. It breaks our defencive barrier. We hate saying NO. We will do anything to avoid saying no. We are trainable but its hard work. You need to haul our asses out a lot but also indulge our secret selves, our longings, desires and dreams.

His situations may not allow him everything he wants with you now. Your ill match astrologically probably doesnt matter as he will change and mold himself to suit your needs if you catch him. Romance him and youll win, simple. Even broken and burned pisces will notice gestures such as this. Long exciting love letters with praise light up our minds.

If you net him youll find the best parts come out to play. Accept his failings where texting is concerned. You have to win our constant attention and pure love. If you make him feel safe just being him.
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then he will feel safe sharing with you the universe inside that many do not get to see. I know many women who have fallen for a pisces man or been loved fully by one. Then at times theyve left only to be haunted by him and his memory forever. If we fall for you hard and with abandon some part of us will always love you and you can be sure that your memories will pass our minds at least once a day.

We may be passive in many ways but if you can bolster us and our dreams. Support or even mold our belief in ourselves and in you and your devotion and safety then on your hands you have something that cannot be stopped or broken. You can turn glass into unbreakable diamonds if only your willing to fall from your airy cliff into the depths of the ocean.

You must compromise your safety for his and that gesture will bring him the the horizon. Impress him with your knowledge, flaunt your womanhood only for him and do it with flare, protect him but not shelter if he needs to get through something combine your fist with his and punch through it. Dont help him hide but break free. If he feels that from you. The acceptance and the understanding, oh my he will become more than you imagine or he himself did.

Its hard to get our mask off. We are completely different for each person we encounter. But for the one we are us with bells on. Make him yours by giving him the freedom of self and yet silently holding some reigns. Use the words "i feel" over "i think". We are built on feelings and logic rarely is the winner in choice for us. Its how you make him feel that will be your entrance or exit where his heart is concerned.

My suggestion is to tell him. "I feel such a connection with you and i want that connection. I want your happiness and you bring me happiness with your presence eyes and touch." "I wont hurt you and i want to learn all about you on your time." "Im here and if you make me wait to long. I wont leave ill come to you."

Use your personal gifts to the best of your ability im sure he will begin to come around.

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leelaa
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Thefish! I already mentioned in my post that i wish to hear to hear from u!! Many thanks for your rich rich deep insights, man i do hear you! Its a bit late my time here and am a bit buzzed, even though i read your posts 3 times already, but i will need until tom morning to be able to function enough and respond to you, thank you, you are so kind!

As for the email i sent him! worked!! Bingo! this was his response:

Thanks for being understanding....you really read me..now that you do, i feel like i can respond to your questions and invitations from now on, whatever the answer was ...so i will...and I willl pass by RV tomorrow even if it was just to say hi and see you.....thanks again.....i was not totally in my usuall mood in the past couple of weeks..
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Thanks guys! And thank sensual Pisces! 😄😄

As for you Thefish, sorry for my delayed response, the last days have been crazy, four of my closest friends are having thier birthdays this week, so i was buys either working or shopping them for gifts. Not to mention my pisces gift on the 16th :S

Like i noted earlier, i agree with every word you said, its all spot ON! I really FEEL my spices even when hes away, I understand him, i try my best to let him feel at ease, that im accepting him the way he is, that hes special, that he doesnt have to answer any questions coz i hear him anyways, that its ok to say no.. etc. And wow u were so right about the touching part. That day when he did his move ( a agree with u that the alcohol was the push), we were standing in the kitchen with a group of people, and like i said, he does this gesture where he outs his palm gently on the womans back while hes talking to her, a very non sexual gentleman move. Now, RIGHT after i did the very same move, puting my arm and palm around his waist, that was exactly when he took me to the office room and we made out.

Whenever we go out, hes always shy and aloof, but once i hold his hand and never move away his side, you can feel how calm and HAPPY he gets.

I havent seen him for 3 weeks now, remmeber the RV opening i mentioned in the email i sent him (the one i showed u above?>😉 You could see that he confirmed hes coming right? Well, he didnt come, even though he reconfirmed again the very same night of the opening, 2 hours later i text him, r u coming or what, come on! He send me a straight 'no'. I am gad atleast he replied! I would be wrong to expect the decency of an explanation? AH well, i was an ass and was STILL understanding (although deeply hurt and disappointed) and texted him told him its alright, the place is not going anywhere u can come check it out next time, all good with u? NO reposne.

this weekend i text him hows ur sunny weekend going so far, he replies and fills me up on his day and that hes out with his friend to celebrate him geting engaged etc etc. I wish him a good time, then later the same night, i text him and tell him 'tell me somehting, i wud like to see u soon sometimes, u feel the same way or what?' No reply, pisces hate to be cornered huh? wel i already knew that, but that was coz im starting to get impatient, he doesnt know what he wants doesnt he? Even if he does, he has no idea how to express it,
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leelaa
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ive read many places before that pisces would get irritated by gemini's constant need to verbalize everything, why not count on hints and gestures that are more expressive than words? right? Is that why he didnt reply to my 'tell me somehting, i wud like to see u soon sometimes, u feel the same way or what?? msg?? Dont know 😢 whats your thoughts thefish?!

Btw, i got him a bloodstone for his birthday, and made him a brochure that mentions all the myths behind it and power its supposed to have, with pictures of accessories for him to take ideas of how to accessorize his stone. You think its a good gift?

Excuse my bad spelling!! And thanks again for ur responses above!
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thefish
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We appreciate gifts of the heart. Lore behind them is a delightful frosting. It sounds like hes interested but at the same time not sure where it all stands. Like i said youll have to go to him. He wont just show up somewhere. Hell get cold feet and back out. So find out where he will be and show up. Remember the touching when you talk. Make sure its... unreadable.

If you want him win him by attrition. Your gift should be well received it would be on my end. I received wonderful gifts from my own girlfriend. Hand made by her a few items are now priceless relationship artifacts. Its really up to the story you wish to write in the empty book between you two. Most of us like aggressive or rather strong women who know they want us.

The longer you let him away the further he will drift or swim. You could seriously become a dream that never happened. We need to be hooked or netted we are slippery but loyal once caught.

Good Luck!

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leelaa
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AHhh i hear you, i KNOW i need to see him so i can bring him back to reality, its not as easy as you say, i cant just show up, especially me being kinda hurt now for him no responding to my text, coz he knows him not respond, means, 'no i dont feel the same way', even if i know better.

If i get intouch again, he wud be a fool not to decide i have no ego or self respect, him bailing at me, and now not responding, what else can i do?!
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Time heals all wounds or situations is not true for pisces as we dont have any concept of time. # weeks to him or days of not responding is perfectly acceptable. We only begin to communicate regularly when we are caught by a woman and she becomes important. You have to be able to sacrifice your own emotional safety.

We desire to become one with someone to such a point that when we find them full become physically entwined that we can spiritually emotionally and physically pass within and through them and come out on the other side more than we were originally. You must cater to his emotions only. Gifts of silence and no expectations are the most well received ones.

You can say look boy i wish to know you however im not gonna take all your shit. Respect me and ill respect you. Glances and gestures are more effective in our attention department. Im rarely verbal in person with my pisces girlfriend. In fact its coming to the point where we dont talk hardly at all but theres a mutual understanding of whats happening between us.


She knows and i know and its unspoken but without question. Your words secure you but not him. So drop them and give him your gift without a word without anything but a glance and a touch. then leave. That gesture would mean volumes more than anything you would consider verbally prudent. We see the value of things like this.

Rather than write the words on a thousand paper hearts littered upon the floor for her. I would hold each one and think on it why i loved her and then place it there. For she would never read each and every heart but she would feel them upon the glance. You must fail yourself to pass him. Only then will you see his distance was never that far and all that time waiting while eons for you was seconds at most for him. We remove that which vexes us from view and love what interests us to the end of time.

Its simple you got hurt but he may not really realize hes hurting you. Our moods can last months. But we can be molded. Like i said show up give him the item Look him straight in the eyes and walk away. ~ youll get what your looking for.

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leelaa
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hmmm show up and leave, i dont know where and how seriously, donno where he lives, and he hardly goes out, my friends birthday is today, he knows her and we invited all our friends (most of him r his friends too), shall i call him? text him? tell him to come? If he does, then on his way out, i can join him in his car for a second to just give him the gift, with a kiss on the cheek and a glance and then leave back inside with the birthday gathering? Sorry if my questions r becoming too much :S
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As for your other kind insights, I am going to have to sacrifice my values and emotional safety, i have to remember those words of yours, since pisces have no sense of time and prob doesnt know he is hurting me, this occurred to be before but i just find it hard to believe anyone can be lost in time or doesnt know the 101 standards for communication, which is a response after a question! period! But ok, i will try to relate and and comprehend 😄
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If youre gonna send pisces guys texts make sure they are of the sweet nothings variety. That's the kind of language they like. Try to corner them and they will swim away. You can certainly lure a pisces if you send them lovey dovey texts and if you phone them to say you just wanted to hear their voice. If you start to analyse them forget it. Unless they are already in love with you that's bound to put them off. Pisces & gem is not a great mix so you have your work cut out. Communication wise it's difficult because gems are not as much into emotional bonding as pisces. Pisces needs someone totally into them and willing to put up with their individuality and refusal to conform to someone else's game rules. They need to be lured softly not chased. It's ideal if he is the one contacting you. If it's all coming from you then it's not just shyness that will be keeping this guy away, it's the just not into you scenario.
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HEy Cappy, many thanks for your kind input. I hear you.. but theyre tough work huh? You say gems have no intense emotional bonding, personally that definitely does not apply on me, maybe its my mars and Neptune in scorpio, but i do feel things to the core, i feel like a sponge sometimes sucking in the way he is feeling, and it makes me sad to see him so lost , insecure and unsure.

Couple of days ago it was his birthday, thefish, i did call him and invited him to the the brirthday (even tho he didnt reply to the msg i sent him last time we were in contact, asking him if hes interested to see me sometime soon or what) i guess he didnt reply coz he hates to be cornered. ANyways, he said he will show up, and guess what! He did!! I guess he sensed it was me giving it one last shot. Anyways, he came and i gave him his gift (his birthdays today) he loved the bloodstone, he was very appreciative and all. BUT, later he leaves us, and when we were off to go, guess what? My friend realizes he forgot his mobile!! So i took it back home with me and returned it to him the next morning when he called to come get it.

I did not look thru his phone, but one of my friends told me that she did coz she knw i wudnt, and found love messages from him to a girl, like 3-4 months ago, and that apparently they broke up coz theres a msg from her telling him to stop calling, and that she doesnt wana be with someone who is not serious or doesnt know what he wants. She said theres no msges to or from girls ever since he met me.

ANyways, i wish i didnt take the phone back with me, coz now he will think i mustve looked thru it!! when i didnt!!!!!!!! and i hate the fact that my friend, someones phone is just too private, and am worried that now he will fish away coz he will assume i mustve looked thru it.

Yes i did tell him consider it was with no body, but i dont think he heard me coz he was busy checking his missed calls, its his birthday today, i called twice, he didnt answer (i know hes at work), i texted him to wish him happy birthday, no answer yet...

so ye cappy, pisces, toooo much patience needed here, but man, i think he is worth it, hes too sweet and pure to ignore.. i want to do him good so bad and help him, i know i can pull him up from the abyss he's in. If not as a lover, then as a friend.
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"You say gems have no intense emotional bonding, personally that definitely does not apply on me, maybe its my mars and Neptune in scorpio, but i do feel things to the core, i feel like a sponge sometimes sucking in the way he is feeling, and it makes me sad to see him so lost , insecure and unsure."

I think it's a different type of emotion. Gems are very sensitive to emotions around and tend to get a buzz from others, but pisces wants a deep connection and gems are not really into getting that emotionally messy or heavy with someone. It's not so much fun. When the going gets tough they tend to want to leave and go onto someone a bit more fun. But really if this guy had a girl ditch him because he couldn't commit then youd do well to give him a wide berth. Sounds like he is a bit of a playa who doesn't know what he wants (not knowing what you want is a typical pisces trait by the way).
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leelaa
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Cappy, i will have admit, that you hit the nail on the head. I am not going to kid myself or u and claim that i know i cant handle the emotional baggage later on if things got intense, its not that i dont like intense, i do, i was very intense and committed in my past 2 serious relationships, but ur right, pisces is not exactly 'fun' for gems. I enjoy solving the mystery of him, and i so want to help him, most of my friends r pisces btw, male and female, and of them told me i changed thier lives to the better, that i have my 'way' in asllowing them to see things in other perspective, that i make them feel good and they find themselves acting a lot like me and the person. Something pisces tends to do with other signs as well i know..

He doesnt know what he wants, very true, he likes the attention, he likes the fact that i get him, without him needing to verbalize it, without me aking him questions, without me showing that there anything wrong with how he is (moods and depression). I make him feel so wanted when am with him the glance the touches, the compliments, im just o into him and wana reach out, but i cant force myself, like for example, its his birthday today, i called him twice, he didnt pick up, he was at work prob, then later i texted him and wished him a happy birthday, i also sent him a funny nice ecard.

10 hours later, just 2 hours ago, he sends me text 'thanking me for my wishes', i feel i put so much effort already, and i feel like im forcing myself, wch is why i sent him back a 'ur welcome can i call u? or r u still in football game' msg, but he didnt reply..

When am with him, his eyes talk, when i hold his hand, he grips hard, but yeah, like u said, doesnt know what he wants..

What do i want? Thats something else he prob is wondering about, what am gonna say now is very important: We both are not the 'playa' types, yes he did make the first move when he kissed me and asked me out couple of times, but that doesnt mean he has the energy or the desire to take this further BCOZ he is not a player, we both know our relationship is not going anywhere. Why? 1- we r not from the same religion, wch is an issue from where i come from. Personaly i dont give a dam, but we never talked about this. 2- im leaving to the US for a year in august, so whats the point right? Why go thru pain, why invest in more emotions and get hurt? I can handle pain, i ACCEPT pain, i dont AVOID pain, pisces?!?! They RUN away from pain. I find romance and love
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leelaa
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Lauren! thanks for ur reply! U are right, with all the effort am putting (even tho i never call, just text coz i dont wana be too much plus i hate phone calls, makes me awkward in the beginning of the relationships) and yet, i feel like he doesnt know how i feel, or maybe, what I want, and yeah, i agree that he doesnt know that his actions hurt, coz when i express myself gently sometimes that t does, i realize that he just found out..
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Hey leelaa, I read all this and I think you should leave him alone, If he wants to be with you he will miss your attention and look for you. The reason I say this is because it sounds like he's not over his Ex, sounds like he is holding on to hope. No that don't mean he tricked you with some of his affection, it just means he liked the attention he was getting from you cause after the break we are hurt and feel lonely and down. He probably developed feelings for you but pushed it in the back of his mind. Because like I said sounds like he holding on to the past, and we tend to do that.
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Posted by leelaa
AHhh i hear you, i KNOW i need to see him so i can bring him back to reality, its not as easy as you say, i cant just show up, especially me being kinda hurt now for him no responding to my text, coz he knows him not respond, means, 'no i dont feel the same way', even if i know better.
If i get intouch again, he wud be a fool not to decide i have no ego or self respect, him bailing at me, and now not responding, what else can i do?!



Whoooaa....wait a minute...hold on here...Why in the hell are you jumping through all of these hoops to get this man. Last time I checked, you are the woman...YOU ARE JUST AS MUCH THE PRIZE, as he wants to be. Outside of letting someone know that you really like them and is very interested, there's nothing else left to do. I'm sorry, but I say FUC% 'EM FEED'EM FISH!!!. Is not that serious. I wouldn't give a good goddang what sign a person is, common courtesy and respect is due to a dog! You should never allow anyone to mistreat you. If you must have a fish, there's a whole sea of them out there. Cast your rod and get to fishing! And as a Libra, you can't find anyone more understanding, patience and can see both sides, but this is ridiculous.
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What the hell is Hallo?

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Hallo | Define Hallo at Dictionary.com

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(used to call or answer someone, or to incite dogs in hunting.) noun, plural hallos. 2. the cry —hallo!?? 3. a shout of exultation. verb (used without object), halloed, ...

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so the very first definition means = to incite dogs?
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Posted by Damnata
^^^Why are you posting on a 4 years old topic?



LOL..I know right?...didn't even look at the date, but somehow it ended up front page of the DXPNET website—. Let me just go back and look and see if someone else brought it back up maybe— If it's this old, why would it be on the front page? I dunnoo, but thanks for bringing it to my attention. Wonder what happened with their relationship though-🙂