Child support

Should men pay child support while they're still in a relationship with the mother of the child?

My neighbor's boyfriend is on child support, even though they're together. I heard them arguing about this yesterday & he really resents her for that fact.

Technically, child support is about support of the CHILD, & supporting that child needs to happen & be 100% guaranteed whether the parents are still together or not. So why do women only jump to get a child support order once her relationship with the father is no longer standing?! It's like which 1 is it...is it about YOU losing the title as his girlfriend OR is it really about the child?!

I'm 50/50 on this. If a man isn't paying at all, I think he should be ordered to pay child support, especially if the 2 aren't together anymore. However, if you're still together & yet he's inconsistent when it comes to helping out with the kids...then what? Put him on child support OR wait until he dumps you to do it?! =P

If you've never been involved with child support, then you don't evn know what you're talking about. What people argue about in their relatinship isn't your business unless they bring to you to discuss.

Posted by P-Angel
If you've never been involved with child support, then you don't evn know what you're talking about. What people argue about in their relatinship isn't your business unless they bring to you to discuss.

It's "Get P-Angel STRAIGHT" time again!:
1. You don't even know my 1st or last name, so you don't know what I've been involved with. Once you get to know me, THEN you can tell me what I can/cannot discuss.

2. This couple has come to me before about their child support issues. I'm friends with them both. So in your own words P-Angel, YES they've "brought it to me to discuss" lol

3. I've been involved in child support cases before. Sorry to break it to ya AGAIN but I absolutely DO know what I'm talking about.

4. Nice try trying to change the subject AGAIN! I didn't ask for NOR do I need your "permission" on whether or not it's appropriate for me to get opinions on how people feel about child support. If you're here to attack me, escort yourself out b/c YOU seem to be the one who "doesn't know what you're talking about" every time you come here with your assumptions of what goes on in MY life. POOF! BE GONE!

Posted by ellessque
I think the entire child support system and laws need to be reorganized.

Most of the time it used more as a weapon then means to support the child.
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I totally agree. And that was kind of my question...I get that men may not be as likely to financially/emotionally support their children IF their relationship with the mother is tarnished, BUT what I find odd is that women associate "child support" with whether or not she's still in a good relationship with him vs. it being about the child & the support that they'll need REGARDLESS of that fact.

Again, it's almost as if "child support" is some kind of punishment. I think some women only care about child support when they know they can use it as a weapon.

People only get defensive when a nerve is hit .. apparantly I hit the nail exact.

If I had missed, you would have just kept it moving.

They didn't come to you to discuss it .... you heard them argue about it. Whether or not they came to you a million times, or one time, is irrelevant.

What two people argue about within their relationship isn't your fucking business to then come in here to talk about ... you're a busy-body, and extremely nosey, and very sexist.


If you had experienced child support issues personally, as you lied and said you had in defiance against me because I hit the nail, then you wouldn't have had to start this topic off by stating it as being someone else's gripe .... you would have started it off by saying it's one of your experiences .. but, you didn't.


Because you can later come up with that excuse doesn't count as being honest .. because if it were the truth, that is how you would have started this topic.


psychology101

Posted by krysrenee7

I think some women only care about child support when they know they can use it as a weapon.

I think you would do that. I've read many of your posts where you describe how you would punish people emotionally if they didn't recognize what you think you're entitled to.

Posted by P-Angel
People only get defensive when a nerve is hit .. apparantly I hit the nail exact.

If I had missed, you would have just kept it moving.

Righttttttt...Isn't that why you just wrote 3 different posts? lol lol Guess my "nail" hit your nerve about 3 times more than you think yours hit mine! Ouch!

Poor thing, you don't even realize that what you just said applies more to YOU than it does me. You clearly 1. Got defensive & 2. Didn't keep it moving! Take your own advice before you come trying to "school" me.

Btw, you never answered my question P-Angel...what's 1st & last name?..........(crickets).........

Posted by krysrenee7

Btw, you never answered my question P-Angel...what's 1st & last name?

You're an idiot, Krys .... if you've never revealed your name, then there's no way of knowing this information .. yet, you hold this hostage in terms of me being so stupid that I don't know what it is.


When in reality, it's you being stupid because you never disclosed your name to me for me to know. You think you're being clever, like in an .. I gotcha .. kind of way, and the only thing you accomplish in getting when you do that is your ticket to ride the short bus.


Thing is, though, you don't know it ... you'll surely come back and mention it again.


:::: sighs ::::


Many things can be mended .... but, ya just can't fix stupid

Again ..... this was none of your business to discuss in here.


They have a right to their argument without you exploiting it with intentions of us to take sides.

Posted by krysrenee7
I'm 50/50 on this. If a man isn't paying at all, I think he should be ordered to pay child support, especially if the 2 aren't together anymore. However, if you're still together & yet he's inconsistent when it comes to helping out with the kids...then what? Put him on child support OR wait until he dumps you to do it?! =P

Odd situation... So the couple is together and have a child and the guy is "inconsistent" in helping support it? First, I'm curious what inconsistent means. If they have a kid and are living together then the finances are known and if the money isn't there then they need to plan together to make it work out. If they can't make a budget and stick to it then disputes about money aren't surprising.

When the relationship is healthy it isn't called child support, it's called taking care of your family. It's something that both parents should be working at together.

what Sid said.

My only problem with child support comes at tax time. I pay all year and then don't even get to claim them as dependents on my taxes. That sucks ... my wallet is all shriveled up and pruney looking this time of year because of that rule.

Pisser's just pissed because her daddy never bought her a crisp white linen dress or bought her a lollipop, much less hugged her... definitely didn't pay child support either. He didn't sign up for that when he rolled off her mom in the whore house, in fact, he signed a release agreeing not to sure over possible contraction of sexually transmitted diseases.

I agree with you LibraSid.

On 1 hand, just b/c a couple is living together, does NOT mean that the child is being taken care of financially from BOTH parents. Then again, I'd assume that 2 people wouldn't even last as a couple to begin with if 1 person wasn't helping out or fulfilling their share of the duties, especially financially.

I've seen cases where the woman in the relationship still decided to make her man pay child support. I thought it was kind of strange though considering they were still together. Who knows, maybe it was the woman's way of guaranteeing that the father paid for his child just in case a breakup were to happen later on...kind of like her already getting court out of the way so that she wouldn't have to deal with it later persay a breakup were to happen.

@P-Angel...You prove my point over & over again. There's ALOT of info that I did NOT disclose about myself, yet you STILL continue to swear that you've got me all figured out. That's the irony. How can you expect anyone to take your opinion of me seriously if the person you feel so strongly about is someone whose name you don't even know?! Think about that 1.

you produce them you should pay for them
more important you should be part of there lives