Dating A Single Dad

I'm thinking this should be my online journal lol, things will get very interesting I'm sure. This is my 2nd guy that I've dated with children. I don't see it as a bad thing but I do see it as a totally different experience when you are with a single guy vs a single dad.

Now, I've been involved with a guy with kids before but this time I have a feeling things will be a bit different with this new guy. With my ex (Virgo-Libra Cusp with Aries moon and Leo venus),couldn't wait for me to meet his children but I wasn't ready to meet them, it was too soon in the relationship in my opinion -- just weeks after dating, my ex wanted me to meet his children ... no effing way.

With this current guy (Leo-Virgo Cusp with Saggie moon and Cancer venus), he is very, very, very protective with his 2 daughters, like if he's not the one taking care of him, he doesn't want anyone else to do it. Wheresas my ex couldn't wait for me to meet his four darlings -- oh brother ...

This guy is a bit more cautious which I find refreshing because I think there needs to be more time taken into account before I meet the two most important people in his life.

I've gotten mixed reviews from both friends and family about dating a guy with kids. I'm not sure where my opinion is on the subject either ...

what are the pros and cons and what is it exactly do I need to look out for?

My goodness, I'm dealing with a bunch of meanies!!!!!

No one will help me ...... ~sigh~

Well I wouldn't really know what to say on the matter either cuz I've never been with someone who has kids, but a couple of buddies of mine in the service are single dads and they always say that they'll never introduce the woman they're seeing to their kid unless they know for sure they are susceptible to children. So majority of the time they'll never say they have kids unless the girl they were seeing were to ask.

But I would normally believe that the single guys with a kid would be more mature than a normal single guy w/out one because they have a higher responsibility to take care of not only themselves but their offspring as well. So in my mind they would know how to take care of whomever is under their wing.

Who knows sweetie maybe the single dad your considering is a real gentlemen..but what do I know..I don't even know the fellow.

Now the con of dating a single dad is that he won't fully be devoted to you, he would have to occassionally blow you off just so he can take care of his kid. If you're wanting all of his attention, in a way; you're going to have to compete with his child.

But everyone on here knows you're a responsible mature woman, so we all know that you wouldn't be so bothered if he had that kind of situation come up or anything along those lines. Plus I don't think Ms.Cappysweetie would even want to compete with a child LOL. So you're cool, it's up to you.

oh YAY 😄

People came ^_^.


I wouldnt care if someone i was dating had kids. . .as long as they knew who should be spoiled more. . .me! LOL.


LOLOLOL!!! Prince!

Posted by sagigoat
sorry sweetie i have never dated anyone with kids so cannot give you any sound advice :/



i live in an area full of more selfish professionals i guess i have never even have anyone with kids approached me in real life

See, heres the thing Sagigoat, I've only had two men in my life to ever want to date me with children, so its like hmmmm, I'm not sure whats going on here.

With my ex, I had to pry it out of him that he had children, he wouldn't tell me. If I didn't ask, he would not have told me anything.

With this current guy, the 1st time we spoke about dating, it told me within the conversation that he had children -- I didn't have to ask lol.


Maybe this is a sign that I'm getting old lol. When men with children start to want you, yep lol

Posted by Smiles24
Well I wouldn't really know what to say on the matter either cuz I've never been with someone who has kids, but a couple of buddies of mine in the service are single dads and they always say that they'll never introduce the woman they're seeing to their kid unless they know for sure they are susceptible to children. So majority of the time they'll never say they have kids unless the girl they were seeing were to ask.

But I would normally believe that the single guys with a kid would be more mature than a normal single guy w/out one because they have a higher responsibility to take care of not only themselves but their offspring as well. So in my mind they would know how to take care of whomever is under their wing.

Who knows sweetie maybe the single dad your considering is a real gentlemen..but what do I know..I don't even know the fellow.

Smiles *waves*

Well, this current guy seems to still be working on his maturity level lol -- he's really shy, but can be very outspoken hahaha, he's hard to figure out -- most L-Vs are hard to muster. My ex put on a huge 'maturity' front when in reality he was stuck in the past and very use to getting his own way.

Posted by Smiles24
Now the con of dating a single dad is that he won't fully be devoted to you, he would have to occassionally blow you off just so he can take care of his kid. If you're wanting all of his attention, in a way; you're going to have to compete with his child.

But everyone on here knows you're a responsible mature woman, so we all know that you wouldn't be so bothered if he had that kind of situation come up or anything along those lines. Plus I don't think Ms.Cappysweetie would even want to compete with a child LOL. So you're cool, it's up to you.

LMAO @ 'Ms.Cappysweetie would even want to compete with a child' hahahahahahaha, 😉

Well ... I lean more towards the fact that I know I will always be 2nd, theres no choice in the matter; sure, there will always be mixed feelings there but theres no way I would be with a guy who doesn't have his children as top priority. I would dump him in a split second with he was one of those dead-beat fathers -- UGH! I turn my nose up at that.

But you are right, I'm not sure what I can do if I make plans and he breaks them and he's not sure when we can get together again. If I can't deal with the blow offs then I know I have to walk away from the relationship.

Honesty, the fact that he's such a devoted daddy is part of the attraction to him 🙂

Posted by Starfish225
Well according to Steve Harveys book its good to meet the kids rather early, bc this way you get a glimpse into who they are before you get to emotionally attached to the dad. That way if they are kids from hell you can duck out more easily..But I feel its a individual thing..Meeting a mans kids don't mean much to me, you can't form an deep attachment just meeting them..Before I start to think about how serious I will be about his kids I need to know how serious I am going to be about him..And his kids won't be calling me stepmommy after just meeting them one time..And no I don't allow men to meet my kids to soon either, but thats me and again its a individaual thing..

Hmmm, meet the kids to get glimpses into who they are? Thats a great idea!!!! 😄 Okay, I have to plan this right or else he will see what I'm trying to do.

Yes, if the kids are brats, thats it, I don't want anything to do with them. Not because I'm being mean but because they already have a mother that can and MUST put up with them. LOL, let her do it.

Although, from what I hear about the mother of the children, she is a manipulator. My first thoughts on her was, 'Oh ... one of those ...'.

He has to keep the 2 kids at night so it will be difficult for him to do anything. He works in the morning threw the afternoon so thats not cool. She can very well keep the girls at night.

Hmmm, I have another concern. What if things get really serious and I want children one say. He already has two .... then what?




Or what if I think that taking care of his children is enough for me but he wants ME to bear more kids for him ... what if I don't want to?

Posted by Starfish225
Cappy all these things should be discussed perhaps through casual conversation before you get to deep into anything..See if you guys want the same things early on, thats all..

I think casual conversation is the way to do it. Especially with him, these virgos, you must trick them into telling you what you want to know LOL!!!

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Posted by Smiles24
Well I wouldn't really know what to say on the matter either cuz I've never been with someone who has kids, but a couple of buddies of mine in the service are single dads and they always say that they'll never introduce the woman they're seeing to their kid unless they know for sure they are susceptible to children. So majority of the time they'll never say they have kids unless the girl they were seeing were to ask.

But I would normally believe that the single guys with a kid would be more mature than a normal single guy w/out one because they have a higher responsibility to take care of not only themselves but their offspring as well. So in my mind they would know how to take care of whomever is under their wing.

Who knows sweetie maybe the single dad your considering is a real gentlemen..but what do I know..I don't even know the fellow.

smiles very sweet !

cappy sweetheart- i think guys with kids look adorable and so manly while being daddy. i also believe what smiles has said regarding most will be more mature cuz of the experience (and a bonus he probably already changes diapers).
i say do not let someones past (we all have 'em) deter u from exploring possibilities...and i don't believe children should eva be a hindrance to dating someone.

good luck girl

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Same here eden! I don't think children should be a hindrance at all in dating someone. Its terrible that adults (usually the ex) creates trouble. If I meet those girls (if things get that serious), I hope that I can embrace them as a sort of sister 🙂 stepmom is something I don't want but if I have to play that role I would, if it came down to it. But no, they already have a mother, I just want their father 🙂

Posted by Starfish225
Thats why alot of relationships end up in turmoil because ppl go on chemistry and lets go with the flow but when it all folds both ppl need to be on the same page not just about what kind of relationship is is but also where they see themselves with a longterm mate in the future..You don't want to fall inlove with a man but then end up having to compromise on something that you knew you did not want or have him compromise in that same way later on..Resentment may set in later..Best to know whats up kind of early..

I agree Starfish but this guy want to just 'live in the moment' you know. I think he's afraid to give me too many details on things. His way of thinking is, "We are both into each, they why not. I like you, you like me, whats wrong?"

So yeah, I know what you mean but ...

Posted by lanathegreat
sweetie,

I was with someone with a kid for 3 years. In the beginning it didn't bother me, but then when things started getting more serious it changed. Like you said what if you are going to want more children? What if he's going to love his first child that's not from you more than your child?

And then there was a baby mama drama. He was spending all his money on lawyers and would let her walk all over him.

Being with someone who has children could be done, but it's not easy. My advice is to take it slow and see how it feels and if you are having any issues. If you do, do not try to supress them like I did for so long, but leave and don't look back. Being stepmom/dad is not for everyone...

He let her walk all over him? Really? oh boy, thats no good 😢 There was nothing you could do to help get him together? If the ex still has control, although she is an ex, is no good.


Hmm, I think this may be the case with me, like I said, he has the girls at night but she can have the girls at night too. Theres no reason why she can't have the girls at night ...


I may just have to be the 'devil' in the situation 😉 Nothing burns my butt more than when an ex wants to still control someone they aren't with anymore.

Posted by lanathegreat
Exactly! I got to the point where I told him to grow some balls and take control of his life and his child. He didn't and I left...damn virgos! lol


Imagine phone calls at 3 o'clock in the morning from her. Or her calling me a whore. Or taking him to court every 6 months for the stupidest shit. Too much for me!

But there are couples who have kids and no drama. Hoping that it's your guy's story!

OMG ... your ex was a virgo ... ugh LOL!!!! The dude I'm talking about is a Virgo -- well, Leo-Virgo Cuspian. That saggie moon makes him tough I think, but he has a gemini mars and a cancer venus. This may make him soft to a degree.

Damn it all.

So she would call at 3am? Fyck no way, I'd be pissed. It would be different if it was an emergencey but she was totally doing that to be annoying.

hehehe, I don't like annoying ^_^.

And he allowed her to call you a whore—? Thats wasn't right 😢 He should have put her in her place. What was she? Her sign I mean, was she a scorpio, aries, taurus, what? You should have slapped her right in the face for calling you that, she's the ex, she didn't know anything about you. UGH! That burns my butt lol

If she ever calls me a whore I'll say: "I rather be his whore than his ex"


HAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by lanathegreat
Yeah and I had three years of that!!! Can you imagine?! I must've really loved the guy! Looking back, I can't believe how stupid I was to put up with all of that and how much back bone he was lacking! Yuck!

He is a Virgo/Libra cusp just like in your post Sept 21st. She is a taurus.....

Oh wow, yeah my ex was Sept 22 and he had four girls with this Aqua woman. Can you imagine that? FOUR kids— :O LOL, these days thats unheard of, I'm not sure what planet he was on when he was screwing without a condom lol.

Yeah, I'm sorry you had to go through that. That fact that he didn't have any back born must have meant that he had a libra moon lol. Most libra mooners try their best to avoid conflict.

If you discussed your relationship in the past, I must have forgotten so I'm sorry.

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Posted by cappysweetie
If she ever calls me a whore I'll say: "I rather be his whore than his ex"


HAHAHAHAHAHA

That's very good! I should've used that a couple years ago when I had a blow out with the bitch!!!

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I knew she had to be a taurus, an aries, a scorpio, another virgo, a cancer or a aqua -- I've seen these woman try to control relationships long after its over. The guys of this sign are like this too. Except for cancer guys, once they are done, they are done lol

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Posted by lanathegreat
Yeah and I had three years of that!!! Can you imagine?! I must've really loved the guy! Looking back, I can't believe how stupid I was to put up with all of that and how much back bone he was lacking! Yuck!

He is a Virgo/Libra cusp just like in your post Sept 21st. She is a taurus.....

Oh wow, yeah my ex was Sept 22 and he had four girls with this Aqua woman. Can you imagine that? FOUR kids— :O LOL, these days thats unheard of, I'm not sure what planet he was on when he was screwing without a condom lol.

Yeah, I'm sorry you had to go through that. That fact that he didn't have any back born must have meant that he had a libra moon lol. Most libra mooners try their best to avoid conflict.

If you discussed your relationship in the past, I must have forgotten so I'm sorry.

Damn you are good! He does have a libra moon I think! :O I never discussed him on these boards. What's done is done...

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Really? Yeah, those with the moons in libra have no back bone at all. A capricorn or a taurus with a libra moon is okay because theres a strong enough base there. But a virgo with a libra moon is just as bad as having a virgo with a pisces moon :/

I've been seeing someone for four months and haven't met his kids yet, though I've met some of his family.

His Ex plays a lot of head games and he (quite rightly I think) is very wary of putting anything/anybody else into the mix. No matter how well it's going, you can't be sure this early and, much as I'd love to meet them in some ways (I love kids and mine are grown) I think he's absolutely right. If we met and got attached and then he and I split, that's another trauma for them. If we met and didn't get on -unlikely but possible - it would probably wreck things as it's early days.

He also - very honestly - told me that his time with them is precious and it would be hard for him to share that at the moment. I know when they're there he still thinks of me - he contacts me to comment on their day, etc. But they are the most precious things in the world to him. In an ideal world he would have them with him and it still tears him apart that he doesn't.

I can't begin to think I am more important than that. He's had some short relationships which have ended because the women couldn't deal with the huge flexibility required when dealing with a combo of kids and an Ex who likes to change plans frequently and wrong-foot him (presumably to sabotage his chances of a normal life?) I've seen it happen, and his sister says it's always been this way.

So - my choice is to hang in there, be around when I can, not be devastated if plans change last minute, and also continue to habve a life so he isn't guilty that I've missed an evening out if something goes wrong.

I don't have the complication of wanting kids. That's a tough one. I did have to be very honest with him once when I couldn't go to an event cos his kids were there. He kept asking what was wrong so eventually I had to explain that although I didn't expect to go at all, I had felt very left out and unexpectedly hard-hit. But that I knew the score and it wasn't a criticism, just me acknowledging my feelings in a difficult situation.

I will meet them when the moment's right but it's no good being impatient. I trust him to know when it's the right time, for him and them. He knows them and I don't. I know it frustrates him too, but he is really trying to protect them and I'd rather I bore the brun of any emotional fall-out than them. They are kids. I'm an adult!

I believe that this man is serious, he's upfront with you that he has kids and also protective of them that he isnt going to introduce just anyone into their lives. It may not be a big issue for some people but it is REALLY huge for the kids involved. Remember they have had to deal with alot for being so young. Losing their parents whether it be divorce or death and then having to greet someone else in their place.

After 4 years my girls who are all teens dont even like to entertain any idea that either their father or I may one day have another partner.

That is only one issue Cappy but if this man is worth it you then have to consider...

-Meeting the kids & learning to love them
-Going from singlehood to instant family
-whether you want more children
-dealing with the ex if she is still around

just a few things to consider but you have to be ready for it and know it's what you want and if not bail before meeting them!

Posted by ScorpAscVirgo
I've been seeing someone for four months and haven't met his kids yet, though I've met some of his family.

His Ex plays a lot of head games and he (quite rightly I think) is very wary of putting anything/anybody else into the mix. No matter how well it's going, you can't be sure this early and, much as I'd love to meet them in some ways (I love kids and mine are grown) I think he's absolutely right. If we met and got attached and then he and I split, that's another trauma for them. If we met and didn't get on -unlikely but possible - it would probably wreck things as it's early days.

He also - very honestly - told me that his time with them is precious and it would be hard for him to share that at the moment. I know when they're there he still thinks of me - he contacts me to comment on their day, etc. But they are the most precious things in the world to him. In an ideal world he would have them with him and it still tears him apart that he doesn't.

I can't begin to think I am more important than that. He's had some short relationships which have ended because the women couldn't deal with the huge flexibility required when dealing with a combo of kids and an Ex who likes to change plans frequently and wrong-foot him (presumably to sabotage his chances of a normal life?) I've seen it happen, and his sister says it's always been this way.

So - my choice is to hang in there, be around when I can, not be devastated if plans change last minute, and also continue to habve a life so he isn't guilty that I've missed an evening out if something goes wrong.

I don't have the complication of wanting kids. That's a tough one. I did have to be very honest with him once when I couldn't go to an event cos his kids were there. He kept asking what was wrong so eventually I had to explain that although I didn't expect to go at all, I had felt very left out and unexpectedly hard-hit. But that I knew the score and it wasn't a criticism, just me acknowledging my feelings in a difficult situation.

I will meet them when the moment's right but it's no good being impatient. I trust him to know when it's the right time, for him and them. He knows them and I don't. I know it frustrates him too, but he is really trying to protect them and I'd rather I bore the brun of any emotional fall-out than them. They are kids. I'm an adult!

Thank you for sharing your insight SAV, you gave a great deal to think about. The whole Ex thing seem to be a real bugger, never dealt with anything like this before. Its like, why can't you just move on already. Does kids make a difference? As to why an Ex doesn't want to move on that is ......

If you're getting on with your life then why can't you partner get on with their's? I don't get it but theres something in me that wants to stop this woman from controlling him. Whats holding me back is the fact that I don't want to make matters worst on him ...

Posted by sweethearts
I believe that this man is serious, he's upfront with you that he has kids and also protective of them that he isnt going to introduce just anyone into their lives. It may not be a big issue for some people but it is REALLY huge for the kids involved. Remember they have had to deal with alot for being so young. Losing their parents whether it be divorce or death and then having to greet someone else in their place.

After 4 years my girls who are all teens dont even like to entertain any idea that either their father or I may one day have another partner.

That is only one issue Cappy but if this man is worth it you then have to consider...

-Meeting the kids & learning to love them
-Going from singlehood to instant family
-whether you want more children
-dealing with the ex if she is still around

just a few things to consider but you have to be ready for it and know it's what you want and if not bail before meeting them!

You have a point ... thats what happened with my Ex, I bailed before meeting them ...

You are right, I have a step-father so I understand what you are talking about. I didn't think about it that way. However, I think I'm different, before my father passed away, I wanted my parents to get a divorce because I thought it would be better if they weren't together anymore.

Posted by machiavelli bull
I wouldnt date single dad because i dont like kids.And i dont like to pretend that i like them.kids are boring.

See ... I love, love, love children 🙂 🙂 🙂

I make them believe that I can't stand them at times however lol!!!!

I don't want to give birth right now but I really like kids.

Posted by FLeo Lives On
I've never dated anyone with kids and I wouldn't be interested in dating anyone with them, unless the kids were in AT LEAST a junior in h.s. Catch me in a flexible mood, and I'll drop that down to sophmore but that will be my bottom line.

Hopefully though, this one works out for you cappysweet. Are both the kids by the same mom and, what are their ages?

Yes, both of the kids are by the same mother. Their ages are 5 and 3. Yes, they are really young, which is part of the problem here.


The Leo-Virgo keys them in the evening, this sucks because he works during the day. She won't keep them in the evening, she always has something else to do ...

Posted by machiavelli bull
Thats nice Cappy.Im sure you would be great mum.You seem such a sweet person.But for me kids are so boring and the worst part is when i have to pretend that im interested and participate in conversations about kids:"my kid did this and that and etc.etc.What a boredom!

oh see, children are so darn exciting for me. They always went to explore stuff and I'm very inquistive so I can appreciate that about them.

I'm always running around with them and so on. No matter how tired I am they want to do something else. I don't want as long as they can all their assignments done and all the homework is turned in on time and they clean their area after lunch.

One of my jobs involved working with kids. Sure, there are pitfalls here and there but just stay try to youself and good home at the end of the day 🙂

Posted by machiavelli bull
Nice.But im rather cold person so its not for me.

lol, well ...

I wouldn't call you called, you just don't like kids ^_^.

3 & 5 will be easier to deal with, everything your parents do and say is right at this time, as they get a little older and start school all of a sudden nothing a parent says is right because they start to question things. So long as the other parent isn't adding in their 2 cents worth you may only get a few tanties...

called = cold

LOL! sorry, I always have a spelling screw up or two, in every post lol

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Nice.But im rather cold person so its not for me.

lol, well ...

I wouldn't call you called, you just don't like kids ^_^.

Random question, cappy how do you make those little eyes in your smile above? lol

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oooohhh, its easy 😄 I use the shift key and press 6 then I use the shift key again and I press underscore then I press the shift key one more time and I press 6 again

Thats how I do it ^_^

lol!!!! see I did it.

Posted by machiavelli bull
Yeah.Im as cold as ice🙂

All bull girls I know want people to think that way. You just have you likes and dislikes thats all. Don't worry, children aren't for everyone. I'll tell you what, after working with kids for while, I'm not pushing to have my own anytime soon.

The guy that I created to post about his 2 daughters and thats wonder and I would accept them along with him. However, at the end of the day, unless we get married -- those 2 girls belong to him and if we break up they'll belong to him 😉

So yes, I like kids and all but I don't mind when each of them go home to their parent or parent or guardians at the end of the day.

Hey Cappy maybe you should post your "Last Night" thread on Health forum too.Its quite shocking!Maybe you should buy an autoclaveJust a friendly suggestion


haha, looks like everyone has seen that thread. It was making me sick so I had to get rid of it. I'll be so happy when I get rid of him and go on my own. I'll try to get the cheapest place I can't find, anything to be able to sit on my own toilet without worry ....

Dirty flats and kids hm..not good.You have to be careful


Oh no, the Leo-Virgo dude would not let the girls come to my place, not as long as I live with the guy I'm with. My roommate and the Leo-Virgo don't get along :/ So no way, I would have to come to him and always to him until my lease is over lol!!!


You are such a warm person



Me or ianthefish? He's a sweetie, I agree ^_^.

But if you're talking to me, then thank you ^_^. Some people think others wise so you have promise not to tell anyone that I'm warm-hearted 😉

🙂

Posted by Jason2213
I possess a great deal of respect for single parents who try hard.

Me too, especially if its a guy ...


Thats why I'm trying really hard to be a patient because I know its not a basket of fruit having 2 really young girls. He's determined to be in their lives, whether his ex wants him to be or not. So keeps them in the evenings towards the night.

Posted by sweethearts
3 & 5 will be easier to deal with, everything your parents do and say is right at this time, as they get a little older and start school all of a sudden nothing a parent says is right because they start to question things. So long as the other parent isn't adding in their 2 cents worth you may only get a few tanties...

Really? Well, the ex is already a problem ............ she won't keep the girls on Friday nights and on the weekend.

That sucks ....

Well is it a problem for him or just you? Cos if it isn't a problem for him then that's what you need to except, but if it is a problem for him as well then he needs to get some balls and make a fairer arrangement with his ex!

Posted by Prince_Pisces
I wouldnt care if someone i was dating had kids. . .as long as they knew who should be spoiled more. . .me! LOL.

HAHAHAHA!!!

Well cappysweetie my grandmother said however he treats his kids is how he will treat the woman he's with. If he treats his kids well, i don't see the problem with being with him, he could be the one and you lost your chance bye picky. Not saying you picky but some people are.

Posted by sweethearts
Well is it a problem for him or just you? Cos if it isn't a problem for him then that's what you need to except, but if it is a problem for him as well then he needs to get some balls and make a fairer arrangement with his ex!

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Posted by machiavelli bull
Yeah.Im as cold as ice🙂

All bull girls I know want people to think that way. You just have you likes and dislikes thats all. Don't worry, children aren't for everyone.

I want to have kids.🙂

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Oh okay lol. I'm sorry about that, I didn't think you wanted any.

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Posted by cappysweetie
Dirty flats and kids hm..not good.You have to be careful


Oh no, the Leo-Virgo dude would not let the girls come to my place, not as long as I live with the guy I'm with. My roommate and the Leo-Virgo don't get along :/ So no way, I would have to come to him and always to him until my lease is over lol!!!


You are such a warm person



Me or ianthefish? He's a sweetie, I agree ^_^.

But if you're talking to me, then thank you ^_^. Some people think others wise so you have promise not to tell anyone that I'm warm-hearted 😉

🙂

hmmm... thanks cappy
didnt even know you knew who i was...
i tend to hide in the shadows and only come out in the blanket of night...
^^^ see above for example.. 😄

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Of course I know who you are 🙂 Just because I don't comment doesn't mean I don't read. I remember there use to be a user who was a virgo girl you spoke to often.

Posted by The-Dream
Well cappysweetie my grandmother said however he treats his kids is how he will treat the woman he's with. If he treats his kids well, i don't see the problem with being with him, he could be the one and you lost your chance bye picky. Not saying you picky but some people are.

Really? The way he treats his children is just wonderful. I admire him greatly 🙂 Actually, I told him that the fact that he's a father is a huge attraction factor ^_^.