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Toxic Manipulative Women
How to Handle Toxic Manipulative Women Using Astrology Insights
Understanding the astrology of toxic women can reveal patterns of manipulation and control. Key indicators include strong Mars or Pluto placements, which suggest aggressive behavior, and challenging aspects to the Moon or Venus, indicating emotional manipulation. Recognizing these signs helps you set boundaries and protect your mental health effectively.
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Make her angry infront of everyone.
she has behaved like this, even in court to where a bailiff had to be called. She's isolated my dad from the rest of my family. It doesn't seem to matter.
Kill em with kindness.
Oh dear!
How can you handle it IF your dad is obviously weak man who is poisoned to the core by this woman! You can’t!
You choosing him will be choosing him with her. And you can’t be doing this. It’ll ruin your left over sanity!
You’ve got to talk to him and explain your position and tell him that you love him and anytime he wants to see you without her he is welcome but she isn’t welcome anywhere and that is that! However horrible it sounds - there is no other solution.
She is apparently not mentally healthy and living on Earth to ruin people and all of you must stand together agains that sicko!
Do you see any other way dealing with it?
I can’t wait to hear others opinions.
Good luck and try to not to suffer badly.
Sorry for this happening to you all.
Kill em with kindness.
is there a way to do it with a hammer and not get caught?
Kill em with kindness.
is there a way to do it with a hammer and not get caught?
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how incompetent are the cops in your area, from a scale of very to its ridiculous
Talk to your father directly, and NEVER, under any circumstance, use her as the messenger/middle man. At the next get together, lay everything out on the table leaving no room for he said, she said bullshit. It will be uncomfortable, but clearing the air usually is.
My maternal grandmother didn’t need any external influence to disown my mom (legally) for marrying my dad. For my mom’s sake, I always hoped there would be some kind of miraculous turn around where my mom reunites with her family— never happened.
If it ever gets to that point, and I hope it doesn’t, at least you won’t have any regrets about what should’ve been said.
Sounds like the entire family needs to drop in pop's house for a surprise Easter, muddafukkkas!
Yup. lol
"See, your bitch of a daughter didn't even invite you over for easter"
She had sent a group text months ago asking for all of us to all go camping with my sisters fiancé's family out town. I declined the offer and made other plans that my mom could take part in.
I asked him about it a few weeks ago, and he acted like he knew nothing about going out of town. but your right the details don't matter much, when you are dealing with ego's and this type of manipulation.
"See, your bitch of a daughter didn't even invite you over for easter"
She had sent a group text months ago asking for all of us to all go camping with my sisters fiancé's family out town. I declined the offer and made other plans that my mom could take part in.
I asked him about it a few weeks ago, and he acted like he knew nothing about going out of town. but your right the details don't matter much, when you are dealing with ego's and this type of manipulation.
I would keep talking how you talk to her, wait for her to bitch about you then call your dad up and sweetly ask him over for Easter just to prove her wrong. Predict her movements, do this a few more times, and then eventually your dad's moon will take over and he'll think he knows better than her and find her annoying. Or you could plant a toxic scorpio moon woman to ruin your dad's relationship with her.
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idk how to predict her movements. When ever she feels insecure of feels like someone has something she doesn't she starts some shit.
I asked my dad once why she makes fun of the things I like, it's weird and childish. and he told me it was because she see's me as more of an intellectual and it makes her feel dumb. So me watching the history Channel makes her act out.
You'd think at #3 you'd be numb by now.
My Capricorn dad had a Leo wife similar. I went to war with her. It almost got violent. But, I'm a Gemini dominant Aries so, I always wind up with excellent strategy. I won the petty battles she started. She actually became of her own games. That year I had to battle two Leo women. The other was a Scorpio male friend's ex-girlfriend. At one time, I was in court with my dad and Scorpio on the same day at the same time about these women.
At the end of the day, I knew possession is 9/10ths of the law and told everyone that she would not tell us when he dies. So, I said my peace, goodbyes in my mind... year by year, moments at a time well before he died.
So, when the day cane and he died, she called three weeks later.explaining to a cousin her grievances and why she did not tell his family....the whole fam knew I was right. I'm sure my dad knew she would do this.
Life is painful. Zoom out. Realize what you hsve power, control over, and let go.
I could say so much more about my analysis of my dad and the Scorpio's parts of this. But, it too much, too deep. Let's just say the knew exactly who they were with and why. It was a window to their character in ways that I really didn't want to know. At some point, I confronted them with my analysis. The Scorpio's was the darkest.
I can so relate with this thread 😑 my dads third wife is also causing division in our family.. she disowned my oldest sister (they both are virgos) and then my sag dad followed suit and is blatantly ignoring my sister too. It hurts my heart for my sister because our mom passed in 2009 and our dad is our only living parent and he won’t respond to my sisters text messages or calls.. he basically ghosted her. And I’ve struggled with believing that my dads wife really loves him.. I’m convinced she loves his money more.
Im sorry that you are going through this, it’s a shitty situation. ☹️
So sad to read what both you and @Astrobyn are experiencing ... i
always thought the step parent thing had potential to screw a family up.
I’m glad i didn’t choose to involve others .... too messy.
I can so relate with this thread 😑 my dads third wife is also causing division in our family.. she disowned my oldest sister (they both are virgos) and then my sag dad followed suit and is blatantly ignoring my sister too. It hurts my heart for my sister because our mom passed in 2009 and our dad is our only living parent and he won’t respond to my sisters text messages or calls.. he basically ghosted her. And I’ve struggled with believing that my dads wife really loves him.. I’m convinced she loves his money more.
Im sorry that you are going through this, it’s a shitty situation. ☹️
So sad to read what both you and @Astrobyn are experiencing ... i
always thought the step parent thing had potential to screw a family up.
I’m glad i didn’t choose to involve others .... too messy.
Wizards is right though, the two dads lack a fucking backbone. I’m so mad at my dad for letting his wife control him like this. It makes me sick and lost respect for them both. I could never choose a man over my kids. 😡😡😡 and shame on the “wives”.
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Yes very weak 👎🏻
And yes to everything you say 👍
I can so relate with this thread 😑 my dads third wife is also causing division in our family.. she disowned my oldest sister (they both are virgos) and then my sag dad followed suit and is blatantly ignoring my sister too. It hurts my heart for my sister because our mom passed in 2009 and our dad is our only living parent and he won’t respond to my sisters text messages or calls.. he basically ghosted her. And I’ve struggled with believing that my dads wife really loves him.. I’m convinced she loves his money more.
Im sorry that you are going through this, it’s a shitty situation. ☹️
It’s beyond disgusting and sickening how common this kind of behavior is among old men. My dad used to closely work with this one guy who was very wealthy that emotionally and financially cut off his first wife and kids and practically left them out on the streets while lavishly funding his second wife AND her own set of children unrelated to him from her previous, first marriage… I personally met the second wife and she is nothing short of a total fake, manipulative, grade A bitch. It’s like these lowest of low, toxic women all come from the same damn place.
You all forgetting that OP said it’s #3 wife from hell. And even I myself said ‘talk to your dad’ - I knew it won’t work because man is 100% is pussy whipped and even he is suffering - he spends with her 99% of life compare to the family whom he sees only occasionally.
I think there is no resolution to this - even intervention at Easter even can be satisfying to some extend - at the end it’ll solve nothing! Woman will throw tantrum after it’s over or while they all ranking in her ass she will probably win as she does all the time!
This family lives evolving around this woman because strangely she is stronger than the whole family! Even if dad and her not coming - what do you think conversation at the table will sound like? ABOUT HER! Because of their dad!
Man is trapped and maybe unhappy OR maybe secretly enjoying this attention and shit his wife creating around him.
I bet Astrobin wasn’t looking for analysis of her family situation but some solution - so far nobody gave her nothing. Because let’s face it - there IS no solution. It’ll continue until woman is gone. And she is not going anywhere willingly.
So it is it - cross to bare.
BTW what happened to other 2? Thing to think about 🤔
Some bad karma arriving for those guys that put the wicked step parents before their kids
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I can so relate with this thread 😑 my dads third wife is also causing division in our family.. she disowned my oldest sister (they both are virgos) and then my sag dad followed suit and is blatantly ignoring my sister too. It hurts my heart for my sister because our mom passed in 2009 and our dad is our only living parent and he won’t respond to my sisters text messages or calls.. he basically ghosted her. And I’ve struggled with believing that my dads wife really loves him.. I’m convinced she loves his money more.
Im sorry that you are going through this, it’s a shitty situation. ☹️
It’s beyond disgusting and sickening how common this kind of behavior is among old men. My dad used to closely work with this one guy who was very wealthy that emotionally and financially cut off his first wife and kids and practically left them out on the streets while lavishly funding his second wife AND her own set of children unrelated to him from her previous, first marriage… I personally met the second wife and she is nothing short of a total fake, manipulative, grade A bitch. It’s like these lowest of low, toxic women all come from the same damn place.
It’s a tough spot to be in as a man
I imagine most of it comes down to money and how it is distributed
If the man were poor no one would be begging for him to be in their lives and shit
They’d be like GTFO you fuckin deadbeat dad lol
So while everyone is fighting for dad’s money
Homie just wants love and maybe some cialis sex
It is pretty common yeah
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What if the Dad has no money and the adult daughter or Son wants a close bond with him though? I think detaching from your kids whatever age they are and to put some bloke or woman before them is shitty
I’d rather be single for life than put our Son through that
The problem is with your dad not her
If he allows her to come between you then it's on him
You're trying to cut off the head of the hydra when it will just grow back
If anything you need to confront your dad about it but I doubt things will change
Patterns (i.e evil stepmom part 3) are there for a reason
I agree. I try to have a good relationship with my dad, and we can shot the shit well, we love and care for each other, but sadly I just do not trust him with my emotions.
I wouldn't even speak to his wife if I were you. The only one you should be talking to is your Dad as he is your family. Don't upset yourself by getting into conversations with her. I would treat her like an inanimate object.
Is stepmom 3 the maid??
she's a bus driver, but she stays fit and has big fake titties. he is still hotter than she is and gets lots of attention from women, he awkward has no game, so ends up with aggressive women who know how to flatter that leo moon.
She's an active alcoholic, he's somewhat of a recovering alcoholic in that he's finally learned how to drink occasionally and stop at a few.
Sounds like you need to cut out your dad. It sucks but if hes willing to let another toxic woman run his life...then let him and you go enjoy yours. Family isn't everything...even our parents.
I can so relate with this thread 😑 my dads third wife is also causing division in our family.. she disowned my oldest sister (they both are virgos) and then my sag dad followed suit and is blatantly ignoring my sister too. It hurts my heart for my sister because our mom passed in 2009 and our dad is our only living parent and he won’t respond to my sisters text messages or calls.. he basically ghosted her. And I’ve struggled with believing that my dads wife really loves him.. I’m convinced she loves his money more.
Im sorry that you are going through this, it’s a shitty situation. ☹️
It’s beyond disgusting and sickening how common this kind of behavior is among old men. My dad used to closely work with this one guy who was very wealthy that emotionally and financially cut off his first wife and kids and practically left them out on the streets while lavishly funding his second wife AND her own set of children unrelated to him from her previous, first marriage… I personally met the second wife and she is nothing short of a total fake, manipulative, grade A bitch. It’s like these lowest of low, toxic women all come from the same damn place.
It’s a tough spot to be in as a man
I imagine most of it comes down to money and how it is distributed
If the man were poor no one would be begging for him to be in their lives and shit
They’d be like GTFO you fuckin deadbeat dad lol
So while everyone is fighting for dad’s money
Homie just wants love and maybe some cialis sex
It is pretty common yeah
What if the Dad has no money and the adult daughter or Son wants a close bond with him though? I think detaching from your kids whatever age they are and to put some bloke or woman before them is shitty
I’d rather be single for life than put our Son through that
Yeah that’s possible. I just think most cases see the loss of a dad as a loss of income or money coming in but I would think that way wouldn’t I being a Taurus and all lol
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Hidden agenda 😂
The problem is both of them
They sound like shitty people ...
I had to place some distance between me and my Dad sadly because of the same reason. I’m not going to stand in the way of his happiness and who am I to make decisions for him? He gets something out of it or he wouldn’t be there. I learned a long time ago how he was though. At a point of anger years ago I snapped at him, “I don’t have to have someone in my life to be happy like you do!” I don’t regret it because it’s the truth. He seems like a very unhappy man internally. Now, all I can do is occasionally call and text him to remind him that I love him and that I’ll always be here if he needs me. I don’t expect anything from him though.
I had to place some distance between me and my Dad sadly because of the same reason. I’m not going to stand in the way of his happiness and who am I to make decisions for him? He gets something out of it or he wouldn’t be there. I learned a long time ago how he was though. At a point of anger years ago I snapped at him, “I don’t have to have someone in my life to be happy like you do!” I don’t regret it because it’s the truth. He seems like a very unhappy man internally. Now, all I can do is occasionally call and text him to remind him that I love him and that I’ll always be here if he needs me. I don’t expect anything from him though.
You’re a good woman
He’s lucky to have you
♥️
My Taurus uncle literally bought a hooker and everyone was mad at him like omg we can’t be seen with a hooker mad lol!
I was like chill… I can’t be seen with a hooker too uncle lmao!
But in his mind he was getting free sex and had a secretary. 😂
I♥️your family 😁🤣😂
How are your parents? I remember the edible undies story and your old man being a comedian 🤣
Sounds like you need to cut out your dad. It sucks but if hes willing to let another toxic woman run his life...then let him and you go enjoy yours. Family isn't everything...even our parents.
Yeah I'm learning this myself. Family is actually a pain in the ass.
Reading these posts have given me a new appreciation for how toxic and destructive my parents divorce was. It scared them into not ever getting married again thank fuck.
My Taurus uncle literally bought a hooker and everyone was mad at him like omg we can’t be seen with a hooker mad lol!
I was like chill… I can’t be seen with a hooker too uncle lmao!
But in his mind he was getting free sex and had a secretary. 😂
I♥️your family 😁🤣😂
How are your parents? I remember the edible undies story and your old man being a comedian 🤣
My pops is in a bad place similar to Robyn’s pops tbh
He married stepmom 2 back in the 90s when he was 35 and she was only 2 years younger than him. I think he thought she was low maintenance and coz she was on the ugly side she truly loved him lol! She was also a doctor at the time but once she married my pops she just played badminton everyday. Maintenance costs just the same as a pretty girl I think.
I can’t tell if I have an evil stepmom. I think most people don’t get over how ugly she is and then reverse halo effects happens. She might be alright.
When I was walking with my then gf around the mall and we bumped into her she was shocked at how ugly she was. Then she started assuming that she was flirty with my dad that is how she nabbed him. Reverse halo effect!
I didn’t usually think about it that way because it’s not like I’m dating her so I never paid attention to her looks. But one morning when I stayed over I awoke to her screaming at my dad saying she wasn’t happy and my pops was just sitting there. I was like jeez dad how could you let an ugly woman talk to you like that so I probably subconsciously thought she was ugly too lol! At his age he just doesn’t want his cortisol raised so he just takes it and finds enjoyment in other things like standup.
Otherwise he’s doing fine! 😂
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Standup .... healing therapy for the effects of ugly women
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My Taurus uncle literally bought a hooker and everyone was mad at him like omg we can’t be seen with a hooker mad lol!
I was like chill… I can’t be seen with a hooker too uncle lmao!
But in his mind he was getting free sex and had a secretary. 😂
I♥️your family 😁🤣😂
How are your parents? I remember the edible undies story and your old man being a comedian 🤣
My pops is in a bad place similar to Robyn’s pops tbh
He married stepmom 2 back in the 90s when he was 35 and she was only 2 years younger than him. I think he thought she was low maintenance and coz she was on the ugly side she truly loved him lol! She was also a doctor at the time but once she married my pops she just played badminton everyday. Maintenance costs just the same as a pretty girl I think.
I can’t tell if I have an evil stepmom. I think most people don’t get over how ugly she is and then reverse halo effects happens. She might be alright.
When I was walking with my then gf around the mall and we bumped into her she was shocked at how ugly she was. Then she started assuming that she was flirty with my dad that is how she nabbed him. Reverse halo effect!
I didn’t usually think about it that way because it’s not like I’m dating her so I never paid attention to her looks. But one morning when I stayed over I awoke to her screaming at my dad saying she wasn’t happy and my pops was just sitting there. I was like jeez dad how could you let an ugly woman talk to you like that so I probably subconsciously thought she was ugly too lol! At his age he just doesn’t want his cortisol raised so he just takes it and finds enjoyment in other things like standup.
Otherwise he’s doing fine! 😂
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HAHAHHAHA
Can we see how ugly??
My parents were married for 40 something years. In fact, they’d be married even longer if death didn’t do them apart. Was it perfect? No.
But I am grateful for not having the trauma of step-parents. They also showed a good example that sometimes in life you just have to make it work. For the sake of family unit, tradition and honor.
My parents were married for 40 something years. In fact, they’d be married even longer if death didn’t do them apart. Was it perfect? No.
But I am grateful for not having the trauma of step-parents. They also showed a good example that sometimes in life you just have to make it work. For the sake of family unit, tradition and honor.
Fuck that.
Fuck tradition, fuck honor whatever that means (professional martyrdom?) and fuck the family unit. Fuck settling and fuck being unhappy.
It's your life, you don't owe any of the above to anyone. You owe it to yourself to live true. Be respectful, kind, give your time and effort and energy... but always be true to yourself even if it means getting a divorce. It doesn't have to be an ugly thing. After all, what are you teaching your kids by settling - how to be a bitter, passive aggressive martyr? How to live a half-life?
Op you’ve got firm boundaries and she manipulates to break them. Maybe you being frustrated is a sign your boundaries are working. Since she’s getting more annoying. She’ll stop as long as you keep being staunch with her.
Do you have to have a relationship with her?
I figure any wife after #2 should be just an ornament existing in his house that you see in passing. None of this texting Bs.
I’d be livid if my dad gave me a back handed compliment, because his alcoholic, fake tittied-bimbo needed to make fun of me for attention. He’s making excuses for her disrespect.
I’d cut off communication with and block her number and stop initiating contact with dad.
Why do ppl keep getting married? Isn’t that shit expensive?
Can’t ppl just live together?
Why do ppl keep getting married? Isn’t that shit expensive?
Can’t ppl just live together?
Same dumb reasons most ppl insist of having kids without thinking twice
Why do ppl keep getting married? Isn’t that shit expensive?
Can’t ppl just live together?
Same dumb reasons most ppl insist of having kids without thinking twice
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True
I’ve met plenty of people who should never bring babies into the world ...
So this is how its going..
my dad asked me to work on a project for him to give to my sister. I told him I was busy but I would get to it. So I finally had time and started working on it for like an hour. I called him because I had a question and he told me "I got that figured out already" meaning he didn't need my help. so its was clear to me that this was affecting him.
Me: Hey dad, (your wife) told me this week "I choose those other people over my dad" because i had plans for easter. I made other plans when (your wife) said you were going camping with (my sisters fiancé's) family months ago. I really hope you don't feel that way. I love you and I make you a priority, I balance my relationship and my life as best as I can.
My Dad: Well, you could have touched base with me before making those other plans. I knew a long time ago that I wasn't going camping with (your sister). It didn't feel right on Easter. It's not your problem the way I feel about "your" family. (your aunt's husband) made (your sisters) life hell when she lived there with her grandma. It isn't just the (Great Aunt) bullshit that I'm defending. I couldn't have any more hatred for the way they manipulated people. (your aunt) is just as guilty. She defended his actions. Sorry, I have to draw my line somewhere. I had enough, and I will cut that out of my life so that I may have peace.
I can so relate with this thread 😑 my dads third wife is also causing division in our family.. she disowned my oldest sister (they both are virgos) and then my sag dad followed suit and is blatantly ignoring my sister too. It hurts my heart for my sister because our mom passed in 2009 and our dad is our only living parent and he won’t respond to my sisters text messages or calls.. he basically ghosted her. And I’ve struggled with believing that my dads wife really loves him.. I’m convinced she loves his money more.
Im sorry that you are going through this, it’s a shitty situation. ☹️
It’s beyond disgusting and sickening how common this kind of behavior is among old men. My dad used to closely work with this one guy who was very wealthy that emotionally and financially cut off his first wife and kids and practically left them out on the streets while lavishly funding his second wife AND her own set of children unrelated to him from her previous, first marriage… I personally met the second wife and she is nothing short of a total fake, manipulative, grade A bitch. It’s like these lowest of low, toxic women all come from the same damn place.
It’s a tough spot to be in as a man
I imagine most of it comes down to money and how it is distributed
If the man were poor no one would be begging for him to be in their lives and shit
They’d be like GTFO you fuckin deadbeat dad lol
So while everyone is fighting for dad’s money
Homie just wants love and maybe some cialis sex
It is pretty common yeah
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Like I said - wife is there 24/7. Kids - only sometimes. So for him she is more because she is with him.
How do you know he has money? Does he?
He just have to understand why he isn’t invited for family gatherings. Wife can make a dinner and if they have friends - invite some. If not - quiet night together. But bitch wants actions!
Here I am lost! I am blessed not to have a big family. She would be crying holding pieces of her dress in her hands trying to escape at the very first time she acted up! Can’t stand shit!
I can so relate with this thread 😑 my dads third wife is also causing division in our family.. she disowned my oldest sister (they both are virgos) and then my sag dad followed suit and is blatantly ignoring my sister too. It hurts my heart for my sister because our mom passed in 2009 and our dad is our only living parent and he won’t respond to my sisters text messages or calls.. he basically ghosted her. And I’ve struggled with believing that my dads wife really loves him.. I’m convinced she loves his money more.
Im sorry that you are going through this, it’s a shitty situation. ☹️
It’s beyond disgusting and sickening how common this kind of behavior is among old men. My dad used to closely work with this one guy who was very wealthy that emotionally and financially cut off his first wife and kids and practically left them out on the streets while lavishly funding his second wife AND her own set of children unrelated to him from her previous, first marriage… I personally met the second wife and she is nothing short of a total fake, manipulative, grade A bitch. It’s like these lowest of low, toxic women all come from the same damn place.
It’s a tough spot to be in as a man
I imagine most of it comes down to money and how it is distributed
If the man were poor no one would be begging for him to be in their lives and shit
They’d be like GTFO you fuckin deadbeat dad lol
So while everyone is fighting for dad’s money
Homie just wants love and maybe some cialis sex
It is pretty common yeah
What if the Dad has no money and the adult daughter or Son wants a close bond with him though? I think detaching from your kids whatever age they are and to put some bloke or woman before them is shitty
I’d rather be single for life than put our Son through that
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Being single is not natural for people.
Some can pull it off. Most can’t.
Why is man supposed to be alone just because his kids having Christmas and Easter and BDay parties? How many days is he supposed to be alone waiting for that family event?
Not all of us can enjoy solitude. Men specially.
Some bad karma arriving for those guys that put the wicked step parents before their kids
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Those kids are ADULTS! And karma is a word.
The problem is with your dad not her
If he allows her to come between you then it's on him
You're trying to cut off the head of the hydra when it will just grow back
If anything you need to confront your dad about it but I doubt things will change
Patterns (i.e evil stepmom part 3) are there for a reason
I agree. I try to have a good relationship with my dad, and we can shot the shit well, we love and care for each other, but sadly I just do not trust him with my emotions.
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When you alone with him - do you talk about how is he feeling about wife being a bitch?
Your father sounds like a simp
Why do ppl keep getting married? Isn’t that shit expensive?
Can’t ppl just live together?
Exactly! That was my question. First marriage for kids growing up in a full family…etc.
Then why? My ex who maried #5 and moved out already keep on asking our daughter when am I getting married…after ‘happily’ leaving #FIVE!!!
Are some people just ‘serial husbands/wives’?
Why do ppl keep getting married? Isn’t that shit expensive?
Can’t ppl just live together?
Same dumb reasons most ppl insist of having kids without thinking twice
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Naaaah. Kids is a different story. For women specially. It’s security. Men’s short leash! You know…
I wouldn't even speak to his wife if I were you. The only one you should be talking to is your Dad as he is your family. Don't upset yourself by getting into conversations with her. I would treat her like an inanimate object.
If that ‘object’ IN YOUR FACE - and #3 IS!
What do you do then? Shaking up during whole family event waiting for the brawl?
What I hate is cleaning gravy off the floor and having my towels all smelly after the ‘victim’ showered 🤢
I wouldn't even speak to his wife if I were you. The only one you should be talking to is your Dad as he is your family. Don't upset yourself by getting into conversations with her. I would treat her like an inanimate object.
If that ‘object’ IN YOUR FACE - and #3 IS!
What do you do then? Shaking up during whole family event waiting for the brawl?
What I hate is cleaning gravy off the floor and having my towels all smelly after the ‘victim’ showered 🤢
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See I'd make the victim wear the gravy home and not mess up my towels. I don't mind cleaning the floor up.
I wouldn't even speak to his wife if I were you. The only one you should be talking to is your Dad as he is your family. Don't upset yourself by getting into conversations with her. I would treat her like an inanimate object.
If that ‘object’ IN YOUR FACE - and #3 IS!
What do you do then? Shaking up during whole family event waiting for the brawl?
What I hate is cleaning gravy off the floor and having my towels all smelly after the ‘victim’ showered 🤢
See I'd make the victim wear the gravy home and not mess up my towels. I don't mind cleaning the floor up.
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You mean others don’t grab you and hold you so you calm down and they can have desert?
It sounds like Drama bonding.
Set your boundaries and follow them like you are.
Bypass her whenever you get the chance or at least be sure to talk to your dad separately about the same thing. Never demonize her. The differences of what you say and she says will add up. Like planting a seed to bloom later.
Most importantly don't give her any info on anyone including yourself. At most be super vague.
That's the high road.
*Moon-mercury
Venus-venus
Leo and Pisces dynamic.
They actually have really decent synastry.
Look at his chart. Those Leo placements. Ya, stop attacking her. It will just push him closer to her.
Can't use negative energy against her. Just feeds her and she will use it got justification.
She ego strokes him yes? Granted it's negative stuff but ya.
Ask a favor of him and praise him for being a great dad for doing it for you. Things like that.
It sounds like Drama bonding.
Set your boundaries and follow them like you are.
Bypass her whenever you get the chance or at least be sure to talk to your dad separately about the same thing. Never demonize her. The differences of what you say and she says will add up. Like planting a seed to bloom later.
Most importantly don't give her any info on anyone including yourself. At most be super vague.
That's the high road.
*Moon-mercury
Venus-venus
Leo and Pisces dynamic.
They actually have really decent synastry.
Look at his chart. Those Leo placements. Ya, stop attacking her. It will just push him closer to her.
Can't use negative energy against her. Just feeds her and she will use it got justification.
She ego strokes him yes? Granted it's negative stuff but ya.
Ask a favor of him and praise him for being a great dad for doing it for you. Things like that.
this is all very accurate, someone else pointed out to me that my dad's love language is acts of service. I'm just tired of it all, I need a real conversation, not a one sided conversation about how much he hates his family, its becoming unfair to my thoughts and feelings.
I really need some time to figure out how I'm going to proceed with her, all I want to do is "cut her out of my life" but that means I'm not spending family time with my dad and sisters. so idk what that looks like.
I wouldn't even speak to his wife if I were you. The only one you should be talking to is your Dad as he is your family. Don't upset yourself by getting into conversations with her. I would treat her like an inanimate object.
If that ‘object’ IN YOUR FACE - and #3 IS!
What do you do then? Shaking up during whole family event waiting for the brawl?
What I hate is cleaning gravy off the floor and having my towels all smelly after the ‘victim’ showered 🤢
See I'd make the victim wear the gravy home and not mess up my towels. I don't mind cleaning the floor up.
You mean others don’t grab you and hold you so you calm down and they can have desert?
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No they usually gag me and sit me in the corner until they finish dessert. LOL
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These are the ones my father likes most. Now that we are on evil stepmother #3. She has taken my father’s issues and grievances he has with his family and twisted them into full on disownments towards his own family. Like my dad didn’t talk to his mother for two years then refused to show up on her death bed, because he always treated his brothers and sisters better than him (middle child/Leo moon syndrome)
And it was the little things over the last 10 year, “oh look how she says nice things about your brother but never you”, “see how much money she spends on your sisters family” “you mother just treats me like hired help” because my grandmother paid her to clean her house.
I have also watched her lie about the dumbest shit and twist things between me and my dad. I have been very clear about what my boundaries are between us. Do not talk to me about my family (the ones her and my dad hate) and if there is anything that needs to be discussed, my father can do that with me.
The latest is… she calls me this Tuesday before Easter to ask me if we can do Easter at my house. I only provide simple factual answers.
Me: I am having Easter at my house
Her: With who?
Me: My family
Her: Oh you mean those other people
Me: My family
Her: well is your aunt and husband going to be there? (the people she hates most)
Me: Yes, my family
Her: (starts to says something hateful about them)…
Me: (I interrupt) I told you told you I would not talk to you about my family
Her: well you are the one choosing those other people over your dad
Me: I’m not doing this *hangs up*
I am honestly at a loss for how to handle this. My instincts are to confront bullshit head on, but she lays down so many sticky manipulative traps and victim cards, if I defend myself, I am mean tbh I did go full bull in a china shop, and told her she was a piece of shit that runs her mouth, lies and ruins everything that comes close to her, and nobody wants her around. Just the true stuff. but she pokes me in the most fucked up ways to get me... this was when she called me and started talking shit about my family who was sitting right in front of me as we were planning my grandmothers funeral.
How do I handle this? do I handle it at all? my biggest fear is that she will turn him against me like she did everyone else. I'm super insecure about this because all the shit step mom #2 pulled (libra/scorp moon)
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