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So i posted a month ago about A virguy that i dated for six months and found out that he had a young baby that was born during the course of the relationship....

So i took it up on me to talk to him about all of whats going on and asked a few questions....At the time my reaction was to end the relationship.. call it a day because as outlined in my next thread my concern was about the baby taking up my time and that's exactly what happened plus i started seeing him once a week...So i called it quits...

After about a week of not responding to his calls our text messages he called my phone to tell me he was downstairs my apartment and he needed to talk to me...He explained to me that he realized he was putting me through alot, and it was not an ideal thing to do by hiding the baby from me..He moved on to apologize for not taking the time out to make enough time for me as he used to ... and says he has made arrangements to hire a babysitter for his child so we can spend more time together...and that he is in the process of getting a house and i am the person he wants to live with him...My response to what he said was neutral..Because he says that doesn't really mean thats what gonna happen plus for me actions speaks louder than words..

But as the time progresses i see he is a man of his word.... I even met his baby mother and we talked..he is not going to her house as often as he used to... and i realize sometimes he calls me to let me know when he is going by her ... I am seeing him more often now like 3x or 4x for the week and sometimes its me him and the baby....

I have sorta adjusted to this baby thing , but i must say im keeping my eyes open , because if i sense anything shady at all i am gone ...
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It's not cool for you to be selfish & condone him taking time away from his own family just to spend time with you

I'm not saying he's wrong b/c he wants to spend time with you
But if the only way he spend time with you is to push off his fatherly duties on some babysitter, that's wrong & it's selfish

If you don't wanna be 2nd priority in a man's life, that's understandable. BUT he has a child now & it'd be foolish of you to truly think he's a good man if he moves his child to 2nd place & you up to 1st place.

After all, what does that say about him? His child should & will come 1st. If he wanted his own free life, he should've thought about that before he knocked her up
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Posted by krysrenee7
It's not cool for you to be selfish & condone him taking time away from his own family just to spend time with you

I'm not saying he's wrong b/c he wants to spend time with you
But if the only way he spend time with you is to push off his fatherly duties on some babysitter, that's wrong & it's selfish

If you don't wanna be 2nd priority in a man's life, that's understandable. BUT he has a child now & it'd be foolish of you to truly think he's a good man if he moves his child to 2nd place & you up to 1st place.

After all, what does that say about him? His child should & will come 1st. If he wanted his own free life, he should've thought about that before he knocked her up



He hasn't pushed his child in 2nd place and i would never condone that.. The thing is before now he was always babysitting when he has his day off's, or as he leaves work its from work to babysitting as his baby mother goes to work when he gets off just to share the babysitting duties... With this he has had no space what so ever to breathe or spend time doing other things, as well spend time with me as it was moved from me used to seeing him 3 x a week to once a week and since lately he tries to see me as much he used to whether or not he is babysitting.... so sometimes the baby is around when he visits me or when i visit him and i dont mind that at all because he has his fatherly duties to do as well as if i can accept him i must be able to accept his child..... And i am not being selfish at all..in the first place when we got together i never had the slightest idea that he had a young baby hence when i found it striked a nerve with me...


he getting a babysitter does not mean its going to hinder him from his fatherly duties ...because from what i see he tries to do everything possible so that his baby is comfortable..
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"The thing is before now he was always babysitting when he has his day off's, or as he leaves work its from work to babysitting as his baby mother goes to work when he gets off just to share the babysitting duties... "

I find it very disconcerting that you consider him taking care of his child as "babysitting" and that basically he and his ex "share the babysitting duties".
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to be honest, as the years have passed and I've witnessed the Virgos in here ..... their utter density in understanding all aspects of human nature, as they interact with each other has become quite obvious.

Give them a spreadsheet, or a chore to complete, or a mess to organize and they are the epitome of perfection .... give the a person to understand, and they appear to wander aimlessly in a fog.
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For one ...you p-angel you have a thing against virgo's i notice and yet still you are married to one and bash every virgo that posts on thread in here...

And for the record babies always come first , and i would not interfere if i see i am hindering him from being a good father...So everyone in here bash me if you wanna it really doesn't change anything...

Maybe my choice of words were wrong by using the term babysit...as i only used that term because his son is only a year old..maybe i should use the term take care of instead
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Posted by krysrenee7
It's not cool for you to be selfish & condone him taking time away from his own family just to spend time with you

I'm not saying he's wrong b/c he wants to spend time with you
But if the only way he spend time with you is to push off his fatherly duties on some babysitter, that's wrong & it's selfish

If you don't wanna be 2nd priority in a man's life, that's understandable. BUT he has a child now & it'd be foolish of you to truly think he's a good man if he moves his child to 2nd place & you up to 1st place.

After all, what does that say about him? His child should & will come 1st. If he wanted his own free life, he should've thought about that before he knocked her up




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Posted by lildol
"The thing is before now he was always babysitting when he has his day off's, or as he leaves work its from work to babysitting as his baby mother goes to work when he gets off just to share the babysitting duties... "

I find it very disconcerting that you consider him taking care of his child as "babysitting" and that basically he and his ex "share the babysitting duties".



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So im selfish , i am dense , im condoning him taking time away from his family, i am foolish to think he is a good man because he moves his child to 2nd place and push me to 1st, and its disturbing that i would consider him taking care of his child as babysitting...and it goes on and on and on...

Im selfish : How am I selfish when i entered into a relationship not knowing he had a young child...I have never dealt with a situation like this before and its not as if Im telling him to stop taking care of his child or drop his fatherly duties ... If i knew he had a young child before i would have never entered into a relationship... He takes care of his child as much as he can more so he see's his child everyday..and sometimes its the three of us...

I am not condoning him taking away his family time if i did i would never in the first place end the relationship.....and if i did condone that i wouldn't endorse the idea of him having the baby when i am around either...He hasn't put me in first place over his own child.. and because he wants to spend time with me doesn't mean he is a bad father either...

Babysitting , taking care of, watching...no disrespect where i come from they all mean the same thing....

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A person who understands were i am coming from thanks AquaJ

lildol...It wasn't for me to ask, entering into the relationship on the grounds i THOUGHT we did was that we would always be honest with one another and would never hide anything and if it was his desire to be in a long term relationship which was said to me in many forms its his obligation to let me the important aspects of his life... As such his baby should have been mentioned in the initial stages..so then i could have made a decision as to whether i was willing to accept dealing with what he has put on the table or not.....with that said i did and he only made mention of was his 14 year old daughter who lives in Jamaica...
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Posted by awesomevirgyal
So i posted a month ago about A virguy that i dated for six months and found out that he had a young baby that was born during the course of the relationship....

So i took it up on me to talk to him about all of whats going on and asked a few questions....At the time my reaction was to end the relationship.. call it a day because as outlined in my next thread my concern was about the baby taking up my time and that's exactly what happened plus i started seeing him once a week...So i called it quits...

After about a week of not responding to his calls our text messages he called my phone to tell me he was downstairs my apartment and he needed to talk to me...He explained to me that he realized he was putting me through alot, and it was not an ideal thing to do by hiding the baby from me..He moved on to apologize for not taking the time out to make enough time for me as he used to ... and says he has made arrangements to hire a babysitter for his child so we can spend more time together...and that he is in the process of getting a house and i am the person he wants to live with him...My response to what he said was neutral..Because he says that doesn't really mean thats what gonna happen plus for me actions speaks louder than words..

But as the time progresses i see he is a man of his word.... I even met his baby mother and we talked..he is not going to her house as often as he used to... and i realize sometimes he calls me to let me know when he is going by her ... I am seeing him more often now like 3x or 4x for the week and sometimes its me him and the baby....

I have sorta adjusted to this baby thing , but i must say im keeping my eyes open , because if i sense anything shady at all i am gone ...



Good grief, you are getting bashed on this thread aren't you. Well babysitting isn't a term that is usually applied to parents who have their own children in their care but people do tend to use it, even those... wait for it... who have children. So no harm if you used that description, everyone surely understood what you meant, unless you aren't the dense one...

Ok so you decided not to have a relationship when you were told he had a child, that's your decision, he came back for you and you have decided to give the relationship a go. Fair play to you, at least this time you can go into it with all the facts at your feet and he knows he
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Posted by awesomevirgyal
So i posted a month ago about A virguy that i dated for six months and found out that he had a young baby that was born during the course of the relationship....

So i took it up on me to talk to him about all of whats going on and asked a few questions....At the time my reaction was to end the relationship.. call it a day because as outlined in my next thread my concern was about the baby taking up my time and that's exactly what happened plus i started seeing him once a week...So i called it quits...

After about a week of not responding to his calls our text messages he called my phone to tell me he was downstairs my apartment and he needed to talk to me...He explained to me that he realized he was putting me through alot, and it was not an ideal thing to do by hiding the baby from me..He moved on to apologize for not taking the time out to make enough time for me as he used to ... and says he has made arrangements to hire a babysitter for his child so we can spend more time together...and that he is in the process of getting a house and i am the person he wants to live with him...My response to what he said was neutral..Because he says that doesn't really mean thats what gonna happen plus for me actions speaks louder than words..

But as the time progresses i see he is a man of his word.... I even met his baby mother and we talked..he is not going to her house as often as he used to... and i realize sometimes he calls me to let me know when he is going by her ... I am seeing him more often now like 3x or 4x for the week and sometimes its me him and the baby....

I have sorta adjusted to this baby thing , but i must say im keeping my eyes open , because if i sense anything shady at all i am gone ...



WHOA!!!!!!! I give you much props for this one. He had a baby on you & you're still willing to be in a relationship with him? Kudos!!! You're a strong woman. There is no way in HELL...
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jeez, my thread got cut off;

so as i was saying

..and he knows he has been honest with you finally. You have met the mother of his child and she seems to be comfortable with the situation as do you and he, this is a very sensible thing for you all to have done. If i have a social engagement during the time that my children are with me I will get a babysitter, this does not mean that I am not caring 100% for my children. If I was with my childrens father still and we had a night out we would get a babysitter - no difference in what your guy is doing. He sounds like a good man who is balancing the life that he has now, children need parents who have lives that are varied, interesting and not revolving around them constantly, they can only learn good things from this. Keep on keeping on, you are doing good.
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I must tell you....Yes i am getting bashed at all angles... But you know something i dont make things get under my skin..and im an honest individual when i am wrong i will call myself out and i know thats not the case here because i am not selfish or self centered as some ppl assume me to be...

And yes i gave it another go because I love him and he displays to me not by his words but by his actions that he loves me as well...and since i have been aware that he has a child i have never interfered with him being a good father or doing what he is supposed to do...So to hell with what ppl think...



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Don't be worried what people think, you are entering into a relationship with a man who has a very young child, most women would run a mile, you are a strong woman. You have to take the good with the bad in this situation as its not a "normal" start to a relationship, but then that is becoming more commonplace nowadays. If you love him truly and he loves you then you will work things out with the best interest of both the child and the childs parents at heart. The fact you all seem to be working together even at this early stage speaks volumes so good luck with everything - just remember what goes on with the child is between him and the childs mother to sort out.
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Well Real the thing is that the baby was concieved before we got together...but they baby was born while in the realtionship...The only reason why im still here is because when i confronted him about it ..he kept it real with me...he never denied anything and he says his reason for hiding the fact that he had a child was because he knew if he told me in the beginning i wouldn't be in a relationship with him which is true...Which to me was a petty excuse but throughout the time being with him i realise he really loves me...
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Posted by awesomevirgyal
Well Real the thing is that the baby was concieved before we got together...but they baby was born while in the realtionship...The only reason why im still here is because when i confronted him about it ..he kept it real with me...he never denied anything and he says his reason for hiding the fact that he had a child was because he knew if he told me in the beginning i wouldn't be in a relationship with him which is true...Which to me was a petty excuse but throughout the time being with him i realise he really loves me...



That right there was shady. He used a manipulative tactic to try and keep you around. Do you honestly believe he wasn't involved with this woman while she was pregnant, throughout the relationship he was having with you? And do you honestly believe he doesn't still love this woman?
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Keeping in mind for all those to be aware .... when this originally was posted (see below the OP), once the situation was presented, a consideration was also presented as a condition in which we should base our thoughts on what we would do.



Posted by awesomevirgyal
The guy you have dated for six months has a young baby born couple months after you guys start dating....When you approach him about it he didn't deny it his excuse is that he wanted to tell you but he was afraid that he would have lost you and you mean alot to him and that they baby came into play but that doesn't mean life ends...Take into consideration he has been of great help to you in any way he can... What would you do ??






This consideration, which must be huge since relating with a person has many factors to consider .. but, none of them were worth mentioning, which obviously means none of the other factors outwiegh that he has been of great help in any way he can.


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Posted by awesomevirgyal
well im on my gaurd ...trust me...I do believe while she was pregnant he was involved with her...trust me i do..but the fact that he introduced us ...( me and his baby mother ) and we could actually have and adult convo says something...But if i sense any form of decieve i'll be gone and this time it wont be temporary it will be for good...




IDK, don't get me wrong...I am not saying at all that he does not care for you, but he doesn't seem trust worthy, just my opinion. The introducing you to the child's mother to me is suspect. I mean, granted, it may seem like a mature gesture but for what? Why would there be any reason at all for you to have met her? What is he trying to prove? I'm just saying, I believe he's going above & beyond. He's just being a little too "extra" for me. But hey, if it works for you so be it. But don't be blinded.
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No i believe he introduced us because i found out about the baby from her plus she had told me before we met that they both lived together so i think the point of him introducing us is to get to the bottom of the situaution or prove he wasn't lieing saying they dont live together...

Im open to ur opinion and i do see where ur coming from realtalk...I dont disregard what you think of the situation at all thats why im on my gaurd..I know what i deserve because i am a good woman and if i get anything short of that i just got to move on
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So, let's review:

He didn't have as much time to spend with YOU as he used to because he became more involved with his child's life and you got jealous — nope, not selfish at all.

You even broke it off with him because the baby was taking time away from YOU — again, not selfish in the least bit.

You disregard him as a parent and consider it an inconvenience for YOU — yup, you totally get what parents do and no selfishness present.

And, because you are complaining to him about how YOU don't get any time alone with him, he is pushing his obligations off. It's not that he NEEDS a babysitter, it's that you are insisting it is cutting into YOUR time with him — no, I don't see where that is selfish on your part.

Let's not forget that you resent his child and him for doing the right thing or shall I say —baby thing?? — that's loving your man alright!
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Posted by lildol
So, let's review:

He didn't have as much time to spend with YOU as he used to because he became more involved with his child's life and you got jealous — nope, not selfish at all...

REALLY R U SERIOUS JEALOUS OVER WHOM, R U KIDDING ME BECAUSE I COULD NEVER BE JEALOUS OF A CHILD THAT IS INNOCENT AND DIDN'T ASK TO BE HERE...IF ITS ONE THING I DONT DO...IM NEVER JEALOUS OVER ANYTHING OR ANY ONE AND JEALOUSY IS NOT A HEALTY TRAIT

You even broke it off with him because the baby was taking time away from YOU — again, not selfish in the least bit.

I BROKE IT OFF BECAUSE I DONT WANNA BE INVOLVED IN A RELATIONSHIP THAT I DIDN'T AGREE TO IN THE FIRST PLACE WHERE A YOUNG CHILD IS INVOLVED AND I KNOW THAT IM NOT THE FIRST OR THE LAST WOMAN WHO WOULD WANT TO FIND THERESELF IN THE RELATIONSHIP THAT I AM IN

You disregard him as a parent and consider it an inconvenience for YOU — yup, you totally get what parents do and no selfishness present.

R U BLIND..I THINK YOU NEED TO GET GLASSES...I WOULD NEVER TAKE AWAY FROM HIS FATHERLY DUTIES...

And, because you are complaining to him about how YOU don't get any time alone with him, he is pushing his obligations off. It's not that he NEEDS a babysitter, it's that you are insisting it is cutting into YOUR time with him — no, I don't see where that is selfish on your part.

I DONT NEED TO COMPLAIN...IS IT WRONG FOR HIM WANTING TO SPEND TIME WITH HIS GIRLFRIEND...REALLY ...OBVIOUSLY YOU CANT READ AGAIN BECAUSE I AM SURE I MENTIONED MORE THAN ONCE THAT SOMETIMES WE SPEND TIME TOGETHER ( ME, HIM AND HIS SON )

Let's not forget that you resent his child and him for doing the right thing or shall I say —baby thing?? — that's loving your man alright!



I DONT OWE YOU OR ANYONE AN EXPLANATION ITS VERY OBVIOUS THAT YOUR MORE DENSE THAN I AM OR IS IT THAT YOU CANT COMPREHEND WELL OR UNDERSTAND WHEN SOMEONE WRITES SOMETHING...FOR NOW YOUR JUST A WASTE OF MY TIME...AND I REALLY DONT GIVE A RATS ASS THE JUDGEMENT U WANNA PASS ON ME...
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Also, I don't blame you for wanting to dip out when you found out about the baby. I probably would have.
I'm not ready to be a step mom...fuck that.

But since you did choose to give it a go...you really need to get a better attitude about that baby.
Stop looking at him/her as a "thing" (you clearly do, and it's not due to "bad word choice" you never once mentioned the baby's gender...)






Did you have a father growing up?
Curious

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I truly wasn't ready for a step mom role..i actually adore his son , he is a sweetheart i always play with him...

Im not a drama queen and i wont go off on you , i just hate to be misinterpreted..Im actually a nice person...

Yes i had a dad when growing up but my mom was not there when i needed her most and when asked about it she gave me a petty excuse ...
This thread however has made me put some things into perspective..
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Posted by awesomevirgyal
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Posted by lildol
So, let's review:


I DONT NEED TO COMPLAIN...IS IT WRONG FOR HIM WANTING TO SPEND TIME WITH HIS GIRLFRIEND...REALLY ...OBVIOUSLY YOU CANT READ AGAIN BECAUSE I AM SURE I MENTIONED MORE THAN ONCE THAT SOMETIMES WE SPEND TIME TOGETHER ( ME, HIM AND HIS SON )





I did mention the gender ^^^^
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sorry, didn't read the shit in caps because it seemed a bit dramatic
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Posted by awesomevirgyal
I truly wasn't ready for a step mom role..i actually adore his son , he is a sweetheart i always play with him...

Im not a drama queen and i wont go off on you , i just hate to be misinterpreted..Im actually a nice person...

Yes i had a dad when growing up but my mom was not there when i needed her most and when asked about it she gave me a petty excuse ...
This thread however has made me put some things into perspective..



You're human...if you weren't ready to be a part of a child's life, no one can blame you.
& you shouldn't feel bad (or be attacked) for being honest.

But try to think about the child when you start feeling a little inconvenienced.
He deserves a father. He's an innocent child, he didn't ask to be born into this situation.

& since you have made the decision to stay, you too have a responsibility in being a part of that child's life now.



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