Still wrestling with the belief ....

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... that to give your soul to this god (if souls exist) .. then it IS the eternal damnation.

This is something I've been wrestling with for quite some time. It started when the realization hit me that all ghosts I've ever encountered were people of this creator god. The energy of their life-force is tied to earth, they are still here. Visiting a graveyard in West Virginia was the clencher for me, though, not exclusive to this theory ..... years ago, my partner and myself were led around a graveyard, learning the history, about the people laying at rest there by a Preacher.

He was a full apparation, solid, we could smell him, touch him .. and he was quite dead.


His body was also resting in the cemetary ....




When people believe in this creator god, and give their alleged souls to "it" .... it means that they no longer accept that their energy is apart of The Collective. This creator god is a fallen angel, he IS the beast, and he is earthbound, which is where your soul lives for eternity if you give it to "it".



Years later, and I'm still trying to believe this .. I haven't found anything to turn my thoughts around. Everytime I visit a different church or talk to a person of this creator god, my belief is only further embedded as truth.



:::: sighs ::::
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Imagine a giant tapestry ......

............. all energy woven together in perfect harmony, at the edges are threads extended out that enter our bodies upon conception, we walk upon the earth as animals with intelligence while these threads govern our spirits, give us a conscience .... we all feel apart of something greater, we feel connected, while also feeling individual, seperated ........

.... from this Collection of energy, all gathered and tethered within each other .. a thread broke loose .... it is all powerful, as we all are as a thread resides within us from the magic carpet .... it is alone, it fears, it is jealous, it pines away for attention, it wants love, it wants to be apart of a fellowship again ...

..... it knows that we are barbarians by nature, we will kill each other, we need direction to keep us calm or all will be in chaos .. it has found out that we have the ability to severe our own connection from the tapestry, we can do it by choice, free will.



It's not alone now, it has other threads walking around (the dead) ... energy that can manifest, can sense, can feel, can move objects, can exist in another dimension .. these threads are still as powerful as the Collective of energy, but, alone, unguided .. lost in a world of tortured souls who are also lost, and walking upon this earth's plane.


Forever
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energy that can manifest, can sense, can feel, can move objects, can exist in another dimension ..


This is so damn funny, you don't believe in GOD but you talk lengthy about the souls and the spirits and their existence in our vicinity. You either need to re-think your thoughts about the GOD or give up this stuff all together for good.


Remember that the GOD is like a MAGIC, it exist as long as you believe in it.
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Posted by Hypnotic1o1
I never understood why people needed to put their life in god's hands, if this is what the topic is about ..
everyone should understand life is manily in his/her own hands ..

- It feels safer to believe a great being is watching over me (than actually realize that more important is the fact that .. I'm the main actor of my life)
- Oh, an obstacle .. what to do ? (...) Dear Lord, help me ..


don't care about the energy stuff ..






Not really about that ..... close ...





"I never understood why people needed to put their life in god's hands"

That comment ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is making the assessment that there is an entitiy for a person to put their life in who is actually a god .. while I'm making the suggestion that this entity isn't a god, rather, a devil.
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And I say "devil" simply because that is what can be comprehended.


But, what I really mean is an entity that used to belong to the Collective, but, has broken away .. so has fallen into wickedness, not necessary spawn from evil .... and in it's lonliness, in it's despair of despondency, it has found a way to have a company of other fallen souls ....

... free will ....



If you choose to be severed from the Collective, then you will be, you will walk forever upon this earth, as a child of this that you call 'god'.


However, to be one with him, isn't a uniting, as he (It) would tell you ... it's actually a seperation from your real existence.




In other words .. I'm not saying this god isn't real .. I'm implying that it isn't what you led to believe it is .. it's a deception to get you to choose to dislodge yourself from the Collective Consciousness.
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Posted by deemnsout4ever
That's a nice way of putting stuff,P-Angel, made for a good read....ta





I'm nearly convinced it is the answer, Blingy ..... that's why we suffer in a world we think is designed for love, that's why we feel connected to other souls who stand next to us on equal terms while feeling forsaken by the mighty king soul who promises to stand beside but doesn't.



It's trying to come full circle in my head ...... alls I know for sure is that this god that people think is beautiful, is actually harming this world, encouraging us to kill on his behalf, and no matter which way you slice that ..... it's equal to getting fucked up the ass with a shovel.
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I'm sorry, I don't like religious debates, but I cannot help but point out the contradictions you have just made.
If you believe "we're all connected and we're all part of the same continual stream of energy." Then you would not deny that this involves some sort of balance. You would also agree that everything in the Universe comes in pairs of oposites. If there is this evil deceiving Devil (which I agree, obviously exists) then there also has to exist a good and compassionate God.


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Good and evil is an illusion. When Adam and Eve ate from the Tree of Knowledge, they gained knowledge of good and evil. Fear entered their souls. As well as shame and other negative emotions, which is why they covered themselves. Think about it. Adam and Eve weren't born and they weren't the first either. The Garden of Eden couldn't have been created right off the back, because there were people outside of it that Cain encountered. People with the same knowledge. I don't know. The theory's still under construction if you will. I think there could have been many generations before Adam and Eve and there could be things that happened then that we could never find out today. But Jesus said that if we seek, we'll find and to not stop seeking. So that's what I'm trying to do.