Sag sun, Gemini moon and Capricorn Venus

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Hey guys, just wanted to run something by you guys, I’m in a relationship with an amazing woman and she has the placements above, I’m Virgo sun, cancer moon and Leo Venus, we have connected pretty deeply and we are very serious about the future etc, One trait I find quite frustrating with her though is the effort she puts in to her work and career, I don’t mean that in a bad way, it’s like she works herself to illness, this week for example she has done 69 hours so far and is currently working on a Saturday morning and will be there for the day I guess.

It’s a trait I seek for in a woman where they are passionate about their career etc but I’ve never met anyone who focuses so hard on it that everything else in her life suffers, she has already been ill last month due to overworking and she complained this morning that she might be coming down with something again, it’s such a fine line of being supportive but also something needs to change and I don’t know how to approach it, when she works like this her diet is bad and she stops training and of course sex is off the cards so I’m frustrated too!!

I’m guessing this is the Capricorn in her but I find the Sagittarius and Capricorn placements are quite conflicting with each other? Maybe I’m wrong, if there is anyone else with this placement that can give me any idea how to approach this with her without pushing her away, I just want her work life balance to be normal so she can actually switch off.
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The conversation will.be futile.

Until she gets to where she wants to be financially and professionally, she gonna work.

If you want her to slow down, you need to pick it up.

How much money do you make?

Do you spend on Her?

In her mind, whatever you bringing home isn't enough. So she has to get her own self together.

Don't be the typical man who can't handle a professional woman.

Find ways to support her.

Put some juice in her bag or pack her vitamin c.

Venus in cap like supportive mates.

Let her be great.

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They say that for a woman to go far in her career, she has to work twice harder than a man! SMC. I worked similar hours when I was younger (now I have people working for me).

Illness is practically a way her body makes her stop, since her brain doesn't know her limits yet. I never got sick, so maybe she is pushing too hard.

You two need to establish "together times" which need to be respected. Apart from these times, how much she works is her problem. I have Sag rising, and tend to run faster if someone is telling me to slow down (just came home from a 5K run) 🙂

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Posted by DMV
The conversation will.be futile.

Until she gets to where she wants to be financially and professionally, she gonna work.

If you want her to slow down, you need to pick it up.

How much money do you make?

Do you spend on Her?

In her mind, whatever you bringing home isn't enough. So she has to get her own self together.

Don't be the typical man who can't handle a professional woman.

Find ways to support her.

Put some juice in her bag or pack her vitamin c.

Venus in cap like supportive mates.

Let her be great.


Thanks DMV, yeah I guessed the conversation will be futile, funny enough I earn the same as her if a little more, I do spend on her too, she is generous with me to be fair, we both like spending on each other she is great with my career and to be fair I feel a lot more driven since being with her.

So this morning she was working like I said, and all of a sudden she comes in to the living room and said she sat looking at her screen asking herself what the hell was she doing and burst in to tears, she also cried in bed with me this morning thinking about work.

To give you a bit of background she has suffered with depression and anxiety in the past, this is something I need to be aware of as When she does slip there is nothing I can do until she rides it out.
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Posted by Undine
I'm actually interested in a Virgo sun, Cancer moon (Libra Venus). What do you like in a partner? How straightforward are you when you like someone?
Well I have a Leo Venus so I feel that rules my heart big time, once I like someone I pursue, I’m very affectionate and shower her with love, it’s weird I can’t control it! I need a personality to bounce off and I need someone energetic. I will say though, my Virgo and cancer placements make me so bloody sensitive!!
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Posted by Blackburn
Most probably work is her outlet, the expression of an underlying issue. You can just support her, try to find the root of her behaviour (she may be or may be not aware of it), maybe talking would help, but talking not in a judgemental or sentimental way but in an understanding way. Just don't push her.
Thanks for the post, yeah I’ve learnt a lot over the last few months, I always try to fix things and I’ve slowly realised I can’t most of the time, I now listen and empathise and offer no solutions, sometimes I think she just wants to vent?
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Most probably work is her outlet, the expression of an underlying issue. You can just support her, try to find the root of her behaviour (she may be or may be not aware of it), maybe talking would help, but talking not in a judgemental or sentimental way but in an understanding way. Just don't push her.
Thanks for the post, yeah I’ve learnt a lot over the last few months, I always try to fix things and I’ve slowly realised I can’t most of the time, I now listen and empathise and offer no solutions, sometimes I think she just wants to vent?

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Yeah, don't try to fix it, I mean, is not your job, she is the one responsible for herself. The best you can do is have patience (Cap/Saturn), maybe help her dig in a supportive way, or if she's not the sharing type just help by distracting her. Is probably she wants to vent.
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Posted by DMV
The conversation will.be futile.

Until she gets to where she wants to be financially and professionally, she gonna work.

If you want her to slow down, you need to pick it up.

How much money do you make?

Do you spend on Her?

In her mind, whatever you bringing home isn't enough. So she has to get her own self together.

Don't be the typical man who can't handle a professional woman.

Find ways to support her.

Put some juice in her bag or pack her vitamin c.

Venus in cap like supportive mates.

Let her be great.


Thanks DMV, yeah I guessed the conversation will be futile, funny enough I earn the same as her if a little more, I do spend on her too, she is generous with me to be fair, we both like spending on each other she is great with my career and to be fair I feel a lot more driven since being with her.

So this morning she was working like I said, and all of a sudden she comes in to the living room and said she sat looking at her screen asking herself what the hell was she doing and burst in to tears, she also cried in bed with me this morning thinking about work.

To give you a bit of background she has suffered with depression and anxiety in the past, this is something I need to be aware of as When she does slip there is nothing I can do until she rides it out.

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You sound like a great support system

I'm currently feeling down on myself 2.
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The conversation will.be futile.

Until she gets to where she wants to be financially and professionally, she gonna work.

If you want her to slow down, you need to pick it up.

How much money do you make?

Do you spend on Her?

In her mind, whatever you bringing home isn't enough. So she has to get her own self together.

Don't be the typical man who can't handle a professional woman.

Find ways to support her.

Put some juice in her bag or pack her vitamin c.

Venus in cap like supportive mates.

Let her be great.


Thanks DMV, yeah I guessed the conversation will be futile, funny enough I earn the same as her if a little more, I do spend on her too, she is generous with me to be fair, we both like spending on each other she is great with my career and to be fair I feel a lot more driven since being with her.

So this morning she was working like I said, and all of a sudden she comes in to the living room and said she sat looking at her screen asking herself what the hell was she doing and burst in to tears, she also cried in bed with me this morning thinking about work.

To give you a bit of background she has suffered with depression and anxiety in the past, this is something I need to be aware of as When she does slip there is nothing I can do until she rides it out.


You sound like a great support system

I'm currently feeling down on myself 2.
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Thanks DMV, it’s been a steep learning curve on how to handle different situations but I’m getting there, she is so unique there is no way I would give up anyway, I just want to learn!

It’s hard when you’re feeling down on yourself as you know exactly what makes you feel better but the motivation isn’t there to do it I guess, this time of year is always gloomy, well where we are anyway in the UK, that doesn’t help.

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Posted by UnicornSag
That's not what Cap Venus is about. Maybe her Sun is close degrees to Cap? Maybe she has something else as well in Cap, or her sun might be in 10th house? We're not THAT different from Caps, only like black and white (joking ofc). If she's born in cusp with Cap that may explain it a bit too. I'd say we can over do things in every aspect, so it affects work as well. It can be quite destructive for us but we keep doing it cause we feel obligated. I got sick from working actually that bad that it affected me for 2 years even after I stopped. I saw a doctor for what happened to me that day at work, she couldn't find any health issue but stress causing it and it was serious issue tho! Now that's a bit to explain this behavior as not that strange for a Sag.

Now on what you can do is be supportive, check what's behind that kind of working. Why is she really doing it? Is that some kind of her satisfaction? Does she have problems with money and needs to work extra to cover it? Does she simply earn a lot more if she works like that so is doing it for that reason? Does she have a goal from working so much?

You're Virgo and you're practical so it should be easy to talk to her about those things cause there must be something behind it and she doesn't see how it affects everything in her life. Try to point it out for her but not in a criticizing way, instead try to simply get her reasons and tell her your thoughts about it and how you see it. Criticizing may lead to her stepping away and maybe digging even deeper into her work but honest talk with her might be helpful if you simply show you're concerned about her
Well her main reason for working like this is because she has set such high expectations of herself and her team that she personally makes sure she checks every last detail and that it’s up to her standard, she said to me once that she has a fear of failure, this is the drive she has.

We had a good chat this morning in bed about her work, I asked questions about her work and she spoke for about 15 mins without taking a breath!! But she felt a weight off her shoulders and she had loads of fun today and it was nice to see

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You're sensitivity towards her is admirable and very touching 🙂

This sounds very familiar and Sagittarian. We are sometimes literally on the crazy treadmill of life but trying to aim for the stars and that ultimate nadir of work or personal attainment and burn out fast. We can feel like we can only reach 20% of out potential... unless we gain perspective.

I too have this predicament and insane drive to achieve (with anxiety/depression.) To reiterate the others, there are likely underlying issues with low self esteem. Perfectionism can be really tough to crack and it might go back to her childhood.

Gently encourage her by telling her she is wonderful just the way she is, that you feel she is capable and competant, but emphasis too the issue of self-care. Be supportive of her achievements too as this is probably an emotionally linked issue.

Maybe buy her some philosophically themed self-care books and meditation. Run her a bath to relax in the evenings.

Make sure you're eating healthily and a smoothie-maker is a good investment.

Something pampering for Valentines

Just be there for a good cuddle/support. Sounds like you're doing a pretty good job!
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Posted by AzureBlue
You're sensitivity towards her is admirable and very touching 🙂

This sounds very familiar and Sagittarian. We are sometimes literally on the crazy treadmill of life but trying to aim for the stars and that ultimate nadir of work or personal attainment and burn out fast. We can feel like we can only reach 20% of out potential... unless we gain perspective.

I too have this predicament and insane drive to achieve (with anxiety/depression.) To reiterate the others, there are likely underlying issues with low self esteem. Perfectionism can be really tough to crack and it might go back to her childhood.

Gently encourage her by telling her she is wonderful just the way she is, that you feel she is capable and competant, but emphasis too the issue of self-care. Be supportive of her achievements too as this is probably an emotionally linked issue.

Maybe buy her some philosophically themed self-care books and meditation. Run her a bath to relax in the evenings.

Make sure you're eating healthily and a smoothie-maker is a good investment.

Something pampering for Valentines

Just be there for a good cuddle/support. Sounds like you're doing a pretty good job!


Thanks for your message, yes there are issues going back to her childhood and she held in to a lot of resentment for years to do with siblings and her parents (she has a great relationship with them now) in her words she regrets a lot about the previous 5 years before she met me, she was literally off the rails, wrong crowd, bad boyfriends etc and that’s when the depression hit her hard, since meeting me her life has got back in track, a lot is to do with me and the way I live my life but also a lot is her inner strength and values coming through, she just needed a nudge in the right direction.

She is actually a psychologist by career choice so she knows how helpful mindfulness techniques are, she used to practice this a lot but has let it slip lately, I can’t push her to do it but we have spoken recently how positive it is, like I said she just needs a nudge every now and again and I’m just making sure I’m here to listen to her and not try to Virgo fix things!!!

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I’m a Sag sun Aqua moon cap Venus mercury & mars. I worked my ass off in my 20’s!! But I was always in a relationship or married too. ( ahhh first love was a Virgo sun cancer moon - he dumped me cuz I wasn’t domestic enough after 3 years and plans of marriage). I slowed down a ton when I had kids. In my 30’s. Being a good mom was important too! Practices, games, played, school events etc & being there to read books at night ya know 🙂

The key is balance especially with the Cap & sag placements! Yes they do conflict.
Yeah she openly admits she is difficult to be with sometimes! She has been speaking to me over the last few days about managing her workload and also having a balance in her personal life, I’m glad to say she has started a process to make things easier in work whilst still achieving her goal of promotion in 6 months, I sent her a huge bunch of flowers to work yesterday which she adored and said no one has ever done that to her, had a bath and wine waiting for her when she got home and she absolutely chilled out and it was a pleasure to see her completely switch off, she was talking a lot about the future with us and how happy she is, something I believe cap Venus is all about? The long term? She has had 5 years of waster boyfriends who have abused her good nature, so I’m mr respectful and she wasn’t used to it!!! But she embraces it now
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Posted by DMV
The conversation will.be futile.

Until she gets to where she wants to be financially and professionally, she gonna work.

If you want her to slow down, you need to pick it up.

How much money do you make?

Do you spend on Her?

In her mind, whatever you bringing home isn't enough. So she has to get her own self together.

Don't be the typical man who can't handle a professional woman.

Find ways to support her.

Put some juice in her bag or pack her vitamin c.

Venus in cap like supportive mates.

Let her be great.


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Posted by DMV
The conversation will.be futile.

Until she gets to where she wants to be financially and professionally, she gonna work.

If you want her to slow down, you need to pick it up.

How much money do you make?

Do you spend on Her?

In her mind, whatever you bringing home isn't enough. So she has to get her own self together.

Don't be the typical man who can't handle a professional woman.

Find ways to support her.

Put some juice in her bag or pack her vitamin c.

Venus in cap like supportive mates.

Let her be great.


Thanks DMV, yeah I guessed the conversation will be futile, funny enough I earn the same as her if a little more, I do spend on her too, she is generous with me to be fair, we both like spending on each other she is great with my career and to be fair I feel a lot more driven since being with her.

So this morning she was working like I said, and all of a sudden she comes in to the living room and said she sat looking at her screen asking herself what the hell was she doing and burst in to tears, she also cried in bed with me this morning thinking about work.

To give you a bit of background she has suffered with depression and anxiety in the past, this is something I need to be aware of as When she does slip there is nothing I can do until she rides it out.

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Just listening and patience helps miles. I'm a Gemini moon that can relate...
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I’m a Sag sun Aqua moon cap Venus mercury & mars. I worked my ass off in my 20’s!! But I was always in a relationship or married too. ( ahhh first love was a Virgo sun cancer moon - he dumped me cuz I wasn’t domestic enough after 3 years and plans of marriage). I slowed down a ton when I had kids. In my 30’s. Being a good mom was important too! Practices, games, played, school events etc & being there to read books at night ya know 🙂

The key is balance especially with the Cap & sag placements! Yes they do conflict.
Yeah she openly admits she is difficult to be with sometimes! She has been speaking to me over the last few days about managing her workload and also having a balance in her personal life, I’m glad to say she has started a process to make things easier in work whilst still achieving her goal of promotion in 6 months, I sent her a huge bunch of flowers to work yesterday which she adored and said no one has ever done that to her, had a bath and wine waiting for her when she got home and she absolutely chilled out and it was a pleasure to see her completely switch off, she was talking a lot about the future with us and how happy she is, something I believe cap Venus is all about? The long term? She has had 5 years of waster boyfriends who have abused her good nature, so I’m mr respectful and she wasn’t used to it!!! But she embraces it now

Ah very sweet 🙂 yes that would be good for her to help her relax. Yes Cap Venus when you’re happy & comfortable is very much the long term relationship type. If not, between the Sag Sun & Cap Venus you’re running away. I think Sags tend to be taken advantage of. People are always surprised when we stand up for ourselves.your approach is much better.

Also the things is I think working hard is a good virtue, you just need someone who understands that. And supports you in it as long as you are keeping things balanced, it works. My ex husband would have dinner ready for me & the kids when I got home. I sacrificed a huge career for a more middle of the road career for the sake of family. 40 hour’s a week vs 60. I think the balance was worth it 🙂 Sag is about fun too, and that is important also.

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Oh god fun is always around us, I’m as playful as her, we are constantly winding each other up! We are also adventurous and spend a lot of time outdoors, me more so than her so she has jumped on my back and come with me on many trips and walks up mountains or down the coast, she calls the coast her happy place, no brainier really!

Her hard working ethic is actually a trait I was looking for in a woman, someone who is passionate about their career, she has no doubt pushed and encouraged me in my career and I’m seeing the rewards, she gets excited seeing me do well, we are both quite competitive actually so it’s healthy