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Roxanne
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on november 2nd this year i will be an absolutely gob-smacking 44 years old. ofcourse i don't look it and i certainly don't act it which leads me to my topic. sarah palin is 44 and is potentially going to become the most powerful woman the planet has ever known. now, i know for a fact that i couldn't organise a chimpanzee's tea party let alone a superpower and if she is still in office when she hits the menopause, my advice is.........RUN FOR YOUR FUCKING LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!

do you have any idea what is happening on the hormone front in that woman's body? she's a few years away from expiry as far as having kids is concerned - do you not think she will be just as susceptible to the hot flushes and mood swings as other women 'of a certain age'? have you not thought about how this may lead to some very rash and irrevocable actions in the future? don't you know that the menopause unleashes all latent man-hating ideology accumulated over the years?

is mccain's back safe i ask myself? is he gonna piss her off by saying 'hi' in the wrong tone of voice one day and end up impaled on the whitehouse flag pole?

if i were in her shoes. i would first start wearing alot less makeup. her face looks like it's held together with concrete. she should know this is ageing. i understand why she wants to dress in those horrible power-suits but that too, is sooo ageing and so my first point of radical change would be in terms of whitehouse dress policy.

then i would fire the entire army and re-recruit only women. these women would be kept in a permanent state of chemically-induced PMS and they would be the most feared warriers in the uniworld.

and then i would just see where my mood swings took me.

OMFG i'm glad i'm in europe 🙂

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cappysweetie
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HAHABABABABA!!! Roxi, you are funny LOL!!!

the only trouble is that if america fucks up it always has global implications and so no-one will be safe if it all kicks off.

Exactly 😉 Honestly, it doesn't count but I think its important that Obama has most of the international vote. Its telling people something 😉 And those who don't care about are reputation internationally have deep seeded problems that only they can solve.

Too bad Obama couldn't have choose me as his running mate. Please, a Aquaruis III verse a Saggie/Capricorn Cusp -- oh yeah, I have no competition.

Karl Rove is a Saggie/ Capricorn Cusp, this is why he's make the McCain camp look good right now because we know what to do -- the son of a bitch was born on the same day as me LOL!!!

We need a cuspy like myself with Obama, hmmm, I wonder if he'd appointment me ...
I doubt it lol, I chose the wrong major haha
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Roxanne
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bs: Nevermind .. my sarcasm escapes most

well i interpreted that as meaning she had been downright insulting. and she's right. i don't get that kind of 'sarcasm'.

cappysweetie: i don't really know too much about the manifestos of any of the candidates. my eyes glaze over if it comes on the telly. but i kinda like the idea of obama and i think his wife won the family circle cookie cook-off too so that would make his winning an absolute certainty?

but. the thought of a woman my age being number 2 in the US is too scarey for words.
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Roxanne
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europe is indeed scarey anotherscorp, but scarey on a slightly smaller scale. in fact, it's WORSE cos alot of male politicians are in their 40s in the UK and they are even worse than menopausal women cos they have mid-life crises and end up fucking the parliamentary cleaner whilst wearing a manchester united football strip (and that's on a good day LOL).

i tell you we are all doomed. mars. that is where our future lies.
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Wow, Rox, I am also a November 2 baby! (I'll be 47 though). Darn it, girl, I didn't know we were astro twins. Happy All Soul's Day to ya! (Nice to be born on a Catholic holy day).

Hon, puh-leeeeze! Do you have to delude everyone here on the board, as ignorant of women as most of them are? Menopause is really not that bad. First of all, Sarah Palin will not be in menopause until about age 55 -- definition of the meanie-pause is that you stop all periods completely.

Until that happens, you are in perimenopause. This is where I am right now. All it has meant for me is difficulty sleeping (solved by melatonin and over the counter sleep aids) and heavy periods. What happens is that your hormones start fluctuating. BTW, don't expect your ordinary HMO doctor to diagnose you this way. He'll probably tell you that you are depressed. Geeze.

Please stop scaring the younger women on the board, Miss Roxie! I am in the best time of life I know. I look ten years younger than my age, I can't COUNT how many men want to date me because I'm now so blase about dating, and I love my kids and being a woman and a mom and a career gal! It gets better and better and better. Of course, having English skin helps, too 😉

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Umm, Eagel ... Have you seen the new studies?

some women start perimenopause and regular menopause at different times in their life. So women DO hit menopause in their 40s so Roxi isn't far off -- some women start perimenopause as early as in their 30s. Where you around that some women so not experience perimenopause/menopause/post-menopause at all? Well if you didn't know before, now you do 🙂

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Anotherscorp,

Stop with the gender stuff , just cut it out already 🙂 Biologically, Men and Women are totally different at certain ages. A man in his 40s or 50s is not the same as a woman in her 40s or 50s. Its not sexism, its reality -- it cannot be helped.

Leave Roxi alone, she's just telling the truth.

Sorry, I study biology so I couldn't let that one go lol
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can i just say something in my defence about the thread too?

i am surely allowed to be sexist to a certain degree because i am a woman myself (last time i checked anyhow) and it is a FACT that the whole menopausal thing has implications for a woman's emotional well-being. it is also a FACT that i would personally be totally incompetent in a position like hers because i'm a moody bitch and i was only putting that thought out there as a parallel cos she is the same age. (actually she is almost a year older and every month counts).

besides which, i don't really think it's sexist to believe that men and women have different roles in society. i think it's a big mistake of the feminist movement to want equality in the 'like for like' sense of the word because men and women are fundamentally DIFFERENT because we are supposed to work TOGETHER as a TEAM for the betterment of mankind. females are nurturers and males are hunter/gatherers. women don't like that because they feel it demeans them but if they choose to feel demeaned by raising kids and putting career second - that's their problem if you ask me!

the important thing to bear in mind is that if women across the globe universally stopped what they were doing and lounged on their couches all day long - the world would very quickly fall apart which illustrates the importance of a woman's role.

i don't want to be equal to a man in the 'like for like' sense. i don't want to be chairman of the board or even remotely busy and important. i want a man that does man's things in a manly fashion while i look after the kids and spend his cash and perhaps write a novel or two. what the hell is wrong with that as a life style choice??


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P-Angel: i'm not sitting in judgement over what sarah palin does with her career or life or anything. i don't care quite frankly. i was just being PLAYFUL with the subject cos she's the same age as me.

good luck to her!! i'm not asking her to be bound to my opinion. opinions are personal and as far as i know, free speech permits us to utter them on internet forums.

and as for judging her style and age - have you not noticed what your media is doing to that woman? do you honestly think she is being portrayed in the same way that her male colleagues are? how many times have you heard mccain's suits being criticised or his hair style or the fact he has a few laughter lines? NONE.

this is the way of the world. men gather respect as they age and women's 'looks fade' (apparently). women are constantly viewed on a superficial basis no matter what they do for a living. it's a sad fact but a fact nevertheless that a woman has to masculate herself to gain success, particularly in the political arena.

remember margaret thatcher? that was one women who was not judged by her appearance because she had more male attributes than female ones.
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it's sad anotherscorp but it's a fact i'm afraid. i'm not saying anyone isn't capable. women are just as capable of fucking up the planet as men but nevertheless a woman will be judged first as a WOMAN rather than the actual fuck-up itself.

it's a crazy attitude cos i believe, as you do, that women are just as capable of just about anything as men but it is still a majority view that men are supposed to lead nations and women are supposed to have babies and stay at home. people step outside this stereotype all the time ofcourse, but they have to accept that they are viewed differently by even their own gender!

i've never actually lived according to my life style ideal in any case. i've always earned my own money and did so throughout my marriage. in fact, for 10 years, i was the only breadwinner and STILL had babies and did the domestic chores.

but it nearly killed me with guilt. guilt that i wasn't giving everything i had to my career and even more guilt that i wasn't giving enough to my kids either.

we ARE capable but we are NOT duty-bound to fulfill all the roles in society at the same time.

yes, it's great to have women like sarah palin in top jobs but it's not something that women generally aspire to. she's an anomaly and she has chosen to put her kids second to her career and even her country. that goes against everything a mother is supposed to represent in my opinion. that is my opinion and also the majority opinion as evidenced by the dearth of women in powerful positions internationally.

it's personal choice at the end of the day and that is something that every single individual has a right to. three cheers for sarah palin that she gives the illusion of being superwoman but ultimately, it's her own family that will pay the price for her sacrificing her role as a mother in favour of politics.
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"like sarah palin in top jobs but it's not something that women generally aspire to. she's an anomaly"


Again ... Sarah Palin is an American woman .. NOT a European one, and so the whole mind-set is different.

Women in our country ASPIRE to rise all the way to the very top of the ladder .... and there is no guilt associated with raising children, for fear that they will be lacking in guidance ...

.. because our men change diapers, make bottles, wake up in the middle of the night to aid the crying baby, give bathes, kiss boo-boos, help with homework, cook dinner, vacuum .. just as often as the woman and just as capable ..

.. so there are no roles, according to a specific gender as to who is suppose to be there for the family, and who is suppose to be the bread-winner ... it's equal.


A woman raised in Europe who is conditioned to be inferiour to men cannot understand, for they have been programmed to believe that the genders aren't equally responsible and accountible.
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""then i would fire the entire army and re-recruit only women. these women would be kept in a permanent state of chemically-induced PMS and they would be the most feared warriers in the uniworld""



omg that made me COL ( chortle out loud!)

classic roxi humor at its best, folks

You need to get back to writting some of those faux news reports like before. How's these for topics: Lehman Bros and the inevitable Wall St collapse, North Korean Kim Jong II having died, but his team of crack military advisors have sugically implanted strings onto his limbs and move him around like a marrionette (talk about a puppet goverment...) Sarah Palin's cameo appearance on Ted Nugents hunting show, where she shoots, slaughters, and grill an Alaskan caribo with her 6 month old baby slung on her back in an eskimo style papoose
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Cappy, it has nothing to do with not admitting that men and women are not the same. I know we are different and I, personally, love the differences. But just because a woman might go through a change in her body, it doesn't diminish her abilities.

And, no, this doesn't mean she's going to push the nuke button during a hot flash!! C'mon! LOL


*shakes head*

*rolls eyes*

You know I wasn't talking about capabilities AnotherScorp (maybe you took it that way). I was just displaying the biological differences between men and women -- that's all. 🙂 I didn't even refer to Palin, I was just speaking of women in general. Plus, I'm a woman so of course I think we are capable of doing whatever we want, but my opinions do not tie into Sarah Palin -- the lady can do what ever she wants for all I care lol
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The woman is strong, beautiful and capable ..... there appears to be a jealousy of this, I think. Or maybe, envy is the correct term.

For .. so far people have commented on the candidates platforms, whereas with her, comments are based around her female attributes, and sense of fashion.

And it's only woman who have made these personal judgements ... so, it leaves the impression that women are envious of her because she has her shit together enough to be where she is.
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P-angel: "A woman raised in Europe who is conditioned to be inferiour to men cannot understand, for they have been programmed to believe that the genders aren't equally responsible and accountible."

i am not conditioned to be inferior to men because i don't believe that being a homekeeper and brilliant mother is an inferior role to take on. i don't look down on any man who assumes that position either, just as my husband did when my kids were first born and for a few years into their lives.

the problem was, he was just not as capable as me in the domestic role and so i shouldered the responsibility of working and doing more than my fair share of the household/childcare duties. i was fucking superwoman for almost a decade and so no, i don't view that i'm inferior to men.

women demean THEMSELVES by denying the importance of the natural, instinctive role of a woman to nurture new life - the kind of new life that goes on to become president of the US or a captain of industry or another homemaker and mother. mccain, obama and even bush all have mothers don't they - as did hitler btw LOL!!!

i've worked with quite a few american women in the past. i worked for merrill lynch for a number of years and encountered more than a bellyfull during that time. they aren't superior to european women. they are louder and more whiney, yes but they are NOT superior because they choose to belittle the importance of the role their gender has naturally bestowed them.

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i'm glad you saw the humour at least tollbooth. some women don't appear to have any sense of humour on this subject which smacks a little of sour grapes if you ask me. i LOVE being the age i am and i would make the most brilliant world leader (in my own underwear at least LOL) but i CHOOSE to dedicate most of my life to being there for my kids, which to me means getting a job that keeps me close to them rather than desparately clambering to the top of a career ladder and farming them out to nannies.

both my parents worked. they were and remain strangers to me. my kids don't even know their names. i am not doing it to my babies and if that makes other (american) women look down their noses at me then so be it. i'm sure i won't lose any sleep over that.

there is nothing wrong with a man assuming the domestic role if the woman has more earning potential but nevertheless, it is not a natural thing for a man. women are the ones who give birth to children for a REASON. it's not just that we are biologically geared to do so but because we are instinctively programmed to nurture.

and men, you may have noticed.........aren't.

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p-angel: i am not jealous or envious of sarah palin. i am so much better looking than her and in a totally natural way, free of botulism injections too. i am also, undoubtedly more intelligent than her and have far better dress sense. admittedly, she is wealthier and more powerful but this is something i look for in a man and don't aspire to achieve myself.

this topic was supposed to be F-U-N-N-Y

so fucking LAUGH woman and get your head outta your ass.
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Ro, the problem here is that you have referenced your own self and how you view yourself, and the role you take in life .. as a point of reference to make a determination about Palin's capabilities. Even in your last 3 posts, you still make reference about Palin wanting to be the woman she is based off of how YOU view yourself, and your chosen role in life.

That's pretty narrow .. and that is the point I've been trying to make. You say you were just making a joke .. but, in reality, you were actually insulting Palin for her choice to be in the white house, while using her age and style as the target.

Just because you put funnies into it doesn't change the fact that your OP clearly insults her capabilities of being a world leader BECAUSE of her age and style . Your humor is merely your mask .. I'm spot-on with your intentions, and I know it, and so do you.

You merely "play" innocent .. your intent was to make her look smaller as a woman in comparison to you.
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In fact, this whole thread starts off with you tooting your own horns .. a flag waving about how "it" you are as a woman. And perhaps you are, I'm not disputing how "it" you are as a woman.

But, in so doing .. this stroking of your own ego .. you make smaller another woman by targeting her capabilities and competence within her status, by making reference that because YOU would not conduct yourself this way, and live your life this way .. it means she is less of a woman for it.


And that's just arrogant, concieted, vain and fucked up. You can use humor if you choose as your defense to make yourself sound innocent .... but, what I've just said is the truth. I'm just the only person with enough balls to say it, is all.
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Hi bs,

No, its not a tough crowd at all 🙂 Everyone just has there opinions and we are alllllllll free to express them. So people are more serious then others and some are more humorous then others. It just comes with the territory I suppose.

If I didn't lose my internet connection a couple of hours ago, I would've said this a long time ago.

Roxi and P-Angel are both stong personalities but they can handle themselves pretty well, but its the typical Scorpio/Pisces misunderstanding lol.

But even if this thread was a serious one, its an opinion, nothing more 🙂
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Roxi: "i am not jealous or envious of sarah palin. i am so much better looking than her and in a totally natural way, free of botulism injections too. i am also, undoubtedly more intelligent than her and have far better dress sense. admittedly, she is wealthier and more powerful but this is something i look for in a man and don't aspire to achieve myself"





You know what they say, behind every good woman is a better man......
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