Devotion a turnoff to a Scorpio?

Just curious. I've lurked here a bit and at Seduction Central. Seems livelier here so I'll take a chance at posting.

I am about to end a 2 year relationship with a Scorpio male. I'm on the Aries/Taurus cusp (April 20). I love him, but he seems to indicate that he cannot thrive with a woman who wants to be:

a) faithful
b) truthful
c) reliable
d) a partner

He did not say this in so many words, but he admitted to me one day that he missed that the "challenge" was gone with us. In other words, that he knew I loved him and had his back. He said he wanted that all his life, but that some part of him yearns for the unattainable. He mentioned a recent-ish ex who seems to have been made by elves or something. She was lovely, but screwed around with every man she saw and told him about it, because she "believed" they were "just friends." He says that on just about every level, he knows that a relationship with her was and would be doomed and that the two biggies for him, trust and honesty, were not present in her, but that some part of him twigged to that excitement thing, knowing that he was better than her other conquests when she was with him. Sort of a "she chose me out of all those guys!" type deal, but that would only last until, well, she chose someone else. Which happened, hmm, like in a 48 hr time period.

So I told him that if that's how he felt, then we were through. He then sort of panicked and said that he loved me and felt comfortable and good with me, and that the part of which he spoke was a "tiny" part. I don't know though. I've read people's thoughts on Taureans - and Aries, for that matter, and I can't speak to all that, but I know MY love isn't something I dole out like a prize at a county fair. It takes a long time to earn it. And if he's saying that being loved and treated nicely by a good woman is 99 percent okay only, I'm not sure I'm with that. He has been calling me nonstop - 24 calls just yesterday, 10 so far today - and I have not answered, not sure I will. I feel conflicted. I DO love him, but I'm not going to change myself. If he wants a challenge, he can do the NYT Sunday Crossword. If he wants a good woman, he knows where to find me ... I am just wondering if he is calling so much because he is trying to do just that? ...

Haha, yes, the name threw me, too! But it is an astro site, it just seems rather slow. And the predominate topic IS Scorpio. 🙂

"And the predominate topic IS Scorpio"

U forgot to notice the number of posts on this board ?

Ooh, an Aries kindred!

No, but there, the boards aren't divided into topics by sign, etc. So one knows what one will get coming onto a Scorp board!

Sounds like the dude is immature and still wants the excitement that a stable, loving partnership would certainly kill.

yeah.

The reaction is consistent with the problem stated. It's over = excitement.

btw, taurus/aries is a tough one to hoe with a scorpio.

why would you use your real name in a depraved online community like DXP? typical clueless ram.

Thanks, Emeraldgem. That's good advice. I do need more time to think on this. I do care much about him, but he is VERY similar to your Scorp - out of on-again, off-again nonsense. Before he committed to me, he even thought about proposing to the ex I mentioned, just to get her to sit still (thinking on it, she's a Gem, too, I believe. Hee!) Only to find out she was shtupping someone in his same firehouse. That decided it for him - hit too close to home.

He must long for some sort of stability or he wouldn't bother, but I don't like being told that being a loving partner isn't enough.

"We need to rename this board as......"Seduction Central""

Makes sense. But I realize that scorpio females arent that challenging or difficult as we read.

"He must long for some sort of stability or he wouldn't bother, but I don't like being told that being a loving partner isn't enough."

That's right. Keep believing what you want to, like 99% of the people here.

"Only to find out she was shtupping someone in his same firehouse"

He's a FIREMAN??!

thatissohot.

"He's a FIREMAN??!"

Which means hez wannabe Aries.

^ lol. clever, for once.

Scorpio_rising, I considered that - that I am inadvertently giving him the drama he so craves. That's why I want to think on this a bit more and give a concrete answer, because I'm not going to perpetuate nonsense. I really don't have the time.

Ha, I have no compunctions about using my real name 🙂 Also, I really couldn't think of anything catchy. A Bull-Ram with a Pisces moon and Leo rising ... eh, nothing jumped out at me.

LOL! Not Leo or Sag? 😛

Scorpio_rising, I'm confused - a man would not want something stable and loving? Or this man does not? I am pretty straightforward - maybe as a water sign, you consider it shallow? I don't go to a poisoned well to drink. That's just dumb. So I don't see the point of a man pursuing a woman he doesn't want. Again, that's just how I see it, and of course I'm seeing it as I want to see it - it's my thought process after all!

Yes, Sea Siren, he is indeed hot and built and all sorts of wonderful, yummy things. Curiously, two months in, he asked me if I liked him for more than just sex. I found that a strange question.

"Makes sense. But I realize that scorpio females arent that challenging or difficult as we read."

A bit on the late side, but...OH SNAP!

yeah, you know.... your dude sounds like he's into you in a dysfunctional, it-won't-work-out, first divorce guaranteed sort of way. Drama doesn't mean he's necessarily into you.

Sounds like you're the ready & loyal standby. Every guy likes a ready & loyal standby, esp. a Scorp. But is that something that's fair to you or him? I say no, bigot that I am.

Ahh...But I realize that a fireman is all about water - out to douse those flames.

goddamn you rams. you make one good comment, and you're always overstretching the content for one more laugh.

PATHETIC

Well no SR - that was my philosophical moon.

"Well no SR - that was my philosophical moon."

My bro & sis do that all the time, overstretching the same line.

The 2 ram dykes who come over here love to rehash the same gay/genital humor.

I say it's a ram thing.

LOL @ the fire puns.

Scorpio_rising, you are speaking my language. Heck no, it's not fair. I told him in all honesty that I loved with my whole heart, no games, no bullshit, no little tests or tricks, and if that was not what he was into, no probs. I admit to be confused that he says I am throwing away two good years and a great relationship over, in his words, a "tiny" part of him that seems to want to wonder if the woman he loves is going to come home to him at night.

I mean, seriously, who the hell thinks like that? He retracted that statement and said it came out "wrong." Doubtful.

baby, if he were into you, you'd know it with no doubt.

That goes for any man regardless of sign. Bank that.

Well, according to him, his Gem ex pretty much said he was good for two things - his cock and his wallet. So the genesis of the question wasn't odd, but I found it weird he was asking ME that. I do like his cock, not overly concerned about what's in his wallet, though. But I do like the whole package, and told him so.

"A bit on the late side, but...OH SNAP!"

Just dont commit the mistake of being loyal - rest will be a smooth ride.

I believe that US Americans are retards. Oh, wrong topic.

I believe the Scorpio-Aries attraction is one of life's mindfucks, so you get your head straight and get to the real task of living.

"Curiously, two months in, he asked me if I liked him for more than just sex. I found that a strange question."

Uhhuh.....*scribbles on notepad* Did he have his little uniform on when he asked this....ahem..just trying to get a mental picture here...so as to better assist you, of course. 🙂

Looks like Geminis can cause some serious troubles for scorps.

Sigh, Scorpio_rising, you are so right ... but what is a mindtreetrunk? At any rate, onward and upward.

Yes, Emeraldgem, she was a freewheeling Gemini, seemed like a nice girl, loved sex, nothing wrong with any of that in my eyes, but doesn't want to settle down and told him so very early on. Hmm .. A challenge?

Haha, Sea Siren, he actually was not - I've only seen him in his gear once or twice "live." It was very, very nice, I'll say that. 🙂

Am3, I know, but I love the idiot, so I guess it is taking me time to get my head and my heart on the same page. 😢

Gaurav_Aries - really? I'd never heard that. I don't know many Gems ... or Scorps either, for that matter.

""but what is a mindtreetrunk?""

lol

classic.

A good friend of mine had a gemini tormentor ....then U have Hypno always lost amongst the twins ...

Well, folks, looks like I got my answer.

I checked his myspace out of curiosity, and he's uploaded a new pic of him - shirtless and near naked.

Whatever. Bye, Mr. Scorp.

"I checked his myspace out of curiosity, and he's uploaded a new pic of him - shirtless and near naked."

Maybe if you post that URL, we'll be able to examine this more thoroughly...

🙂

I can't believe I'm actually crying over this dickhead. I am glad he cannot see me.

Awww...don't cry Ann. 😢 Are you on his friendslist on myspace? Maybe he's showing off for you.

"you stay away from gerard you hear me—!!!"

Damn, that's three people who have told me that today, including my mother... 😛

"Maybe if you post that URL, we'll be able to examine this more thoroughly..."

Bad SeaSiren! Bad!

No, I am not on his friends list. I go there sometimes because he DID have the cutest picture of himself in college posing with his college's mascot. And he's just changed it in the past 24 hours.

I feel sick and numb. I know i don't deserve this, but cannot stop crying. I feel stupid and weak, not a good showing for a bull.

"Bad SeaSiren! Bad!"

*hangs head in shame* 😢

"including my mother"

so sad.

"I feel sick and numb. I know i don't deserve this, but cannot stop crying. I feel stupid and weak, not a good showing for a bull."

Are you officially a bull or ram? That would determine how much I despise you.

Guess Yuma was right when he proposed a relationship board for such issues.

"I feel sick and numb. I know i don't deserve this, but cannot stop crying. I feel stupid and weak, not a good showing for a bull."

You know what would make you feel better? Revenge!

Just post a picture of yourself half-naked in some website, it will be cathartic. You can't do it in myspace, though, as that would be too obvious...but where..?

pretty good yum. if you (AnnBarrett) posted yourself half-naked around a handsome dude, i'm sure fireman scorp would stalk you.

devotion vs. stalking. tough call.

Ann, he has to know you look at his myspace, yeah? And he called ten times today? Maybe he realizes messing this up with you would be a big mistake.

"You stay away from him only cuz you're mine. GB is ugly to me though, but I understand why he appeals to others."

That second clarification has me in stitches.....LMFAO! Only you...ONLY YOU would feel the need to add that...lol

Strange - but I also got revenge related advice from my scorp friends.

^ oh goodness, the mountains of deep-seeded personal experience gushes out.

If you cry the terrorists win!

lol @Yum

too funny

moon, how many dozens have you dimed? I bet quite a bit.

hatred involves a lot of emotional investment, which frankly, is too valuable to waste on rams.

scorn, that's the ticket.