Dealing with Betrayal w/o being vengeful

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I'm going through my saturn return (in scorpio) and have had some pretty heavy betrayal issues come up. I was severely betrayed by some close friends.

What it did do was shed a light onto the fact that these relationships were not good for me, and I wasn't getting anything out of them.

However.

They still want to be friends with me.


What happened was unforgiveable, not to mention the fact that they also tried to manipulate me. I saw right through it. But not before they screwed me over. They got what they wanted.



I really hope this isn't something I continually have to deal with. Is this a common theme for you scorpios? How do you deal with it without getting revenge?
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As a Scorpio that has dealt with betrayal before. Forgive them. Not for their sake, but for your inner peace. And never let them in your life again. They made the decision to cut you off when they did whatever they did. Not you & the forgiveness is for you. You don't even have to tell them you forgive them. It's gonna be easier said than done, but revenge will not solve anything. It feels good for a little while, but the pain & anger is still there. Trust me.
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"Hell no you can't be friends with them." --hah! I totally agree with this.


PhoenixScorp--Yeah I know getting revenge will get nowhere. I forgive them but i'll never let them in my life again.


The last ties are on facebook and I know deleted them will result in a lot of phonecalls/text messages/ and them turning other people against me (that is their nature i've seen it) so do I keep them on facebook? ....i may have answered my own question.


this betrayal thing sucks. watching people trying to manipulate you is even worse. Its like I can see them trying to manipulate and it makes me want to punch them.
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Saturn's not reached Scorpido yet dude.. you fastforwarding it? It's still in peaceable Libra.

Saturn in Scorpio will restrain any thoughts of revenge.

I've seen the ugly side of human nature with manipulation. Yes I've tried revenge. And no, it didn't work.
The message I imbibed from the universe is this: You can't control or play God for someone elses' wrongdoing. The universe will punish them on its own. You aren't suppose to interfere with its plan of punishment.

If you interfere, you are only ging to hurt yourself. Because manipualtive people have mastered that art and honed it for ages. Also, some people are just toxic. They play games because of a unresolved or unhealed sickness within them.

I saw it from the horses mouth (my ex friend). She was very desirous of attention, had control issues and wanted everything to bend her will. Sort of like a puppet master.

But please know that they are very very sick individuals inside.. very very miserable and unhappy. Much more than you could ever dream to be.

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Posted by caprio
I'm going through my saturn return (in scorpio) and have had some pretty heavy betrayal issues come up. I was severely betrayed by some close friends.

What it did do was shed a light onto the fact that these relationships were not good for me, and I wasn't getting anything out of them.

However.

They still want to be friends with me.





Ever walk into a seedy nightclub and see the bartenders
who steal each others tips, do each other's bfs behind
one another's backs, etc. —

Ever wonder why they pretend to be friends with each other?

They are whores. Nobody else wants them. They are all they've got.

( and someday LOVE ITSELF will humiliate them. ... because
they cannot have it. )

WE HEAR YOU. WE KNOW YOU.
MOVE ON. HANG OUT HERE FOR A WHILE.
DRESS AS RESPECTABLY AS YOU CAN
SPEAK AS RESPECTFULLY AS YOU CAN

BE BETTER THAN THEY ARE
LEAVE THEM BEHIND



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What happened was unforgiveable, not to mention the fact that they also tried to manipulate me. I saw right through it. But not before they screwed me over. They got what they wanted.



I really hope this isn't something I continually have to deal with. Is this a common theme for you scorpios? How do you deal with it without getting revenge?
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A whore's intention is to WRECK another person's life
by making them ANGRY too. Dracula was a whore who manipulated
everyone - sucked the life force right outta them ( blood )
and of course - a vampire becomes a vampire by being bitten
by another vampire.



Wut I'm saying is:
Whores are Vampires. Vampires are whores.
You've been bitten once already.
Stick around - you'll be bitten until YOU become
a vampire just like them. I don't care if you are
a male or a female - same rules apply.



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Posted by caprio



The last ties are on facebook and I know deleted them will result in a lot of phonecalls/text messages/ and them turning other people against me (that is their nature i've seen it) so do I keep them on facebook? ....i may have answered my own question.







Yes. Keep them on Facebook.


But in fine Scorpio fashion
CREATE A NEW ACCOUNT
and be more selective with
who you invite to be a friend.

Then just never log into your old one
with them and all their friends.

They probably have 9,000 friends each
because they think it means social status.
Have 5 - 50 good ones you really like
and WHOM YOU TRUST
and you smile quietly....knowing.

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Dang. I don't go down well being taken for a fool. I think its the worst possible thing someone could do no?

Even if u cut them out of your life,you still wana make them pay.
Think of it this way. You deserve to have friends that are actually true to you. The ones that you lost did you a favour. Now you knw whose true,and who is a manipulator. U dnt need people like them. They are gona realize what a true friend they just lost and it'll be too late. The best revenge is looking at the silver lining at this point,and that they are not worth your time. Focus on you swty. They made you angry as hell,but never let them get to you. Next time you see them,thank them for letting you see what a waste they were to your life. And that nw you can focus on the people that love you. By hurting you, they just added onto your strength as a person. Indirectly ofcourse.when ur able to simply walk away frm ths,you'll realize that that is pure revenge in its way.
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"If they snaked you once, they'll snake you again. " AGREED
I might just wait on the FB thing and delete them once enough time has passed where we havent talked. I don't want to get revenge, although I know a few things that would DESTROY them. But I know it would backfire and make me look bad.




The betrayal was pretty serious, and what makes it worse...is that they lied about it when confronted. I know this is teaching me to approach relationships with people differently, and when the red flags pop up... to listen to them.
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I personally would delete them because I just naturally hate people in my business. What I hate worse is people I dislike in my business. Who cares if they turn other's against you...obviously those people weren't your friends either. I personally don't seek revenge...my revenge is pretty much cutting people off cold. That's as far as I'll take it...all the other stuff is petty.
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spica....MY saturn is in scorpio.... that is what I was talking about.



Saturn in Scorpio won't let you succeed in your revenge endeavours.

Trust me I had a friend betray me quite similar to your story. It was either do or die. I couldn't really do anything about it though I tried my darndest.

I gained a whole lot more about it - I tried going into her mind and enacting out what she did mentally. I never felt so damned before. You either sink like the victim they want you to be.. or swim through the flames. They are your teacher; without them, the breadth of your knowledge of human nature would be seriously restricted.

I actually thank that episode because although it was extremely painful, I survived and saw her for who she is. That is the ultimate victory. Truth and not illusion.
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Wow reading your post was eerie. I was wondering if I typed it in my sleep or something lol. Except I am in a difference phase. Recently I'd considered reconciliation with a life long friend who betrayed me. Also I decided to send one more smoke signal to a friend who decided to ignore me for reasons I can't decipher. Im a scorpio with a pisces moon. So my scorpio was quick to cut the first individual off, and ignore the second as well. Now my pisces is doubling back (which it does ever so often). I sent the smoke signal out but I am torn about reopening the lines of communication with the betrayer. I just want to reconcile and move on. I don't want to be this person's friend, because if its one thing the past has taught me---I don't value relationships where the trust is even slightly impaired.

Anyhow good luck! I say if you need to, have a conversation airing out your feelings, but let the betrayers go. Folks who betray tend to have deep seeded issues anyhow. Let them work out their issues while you continue to grow on your own.

Hmmn...maybe I just received my own answer. 😉