i did something she did not like. i went for a night out with her frenemy who is also a friend of mine. now she is ignoring me. i feel so small. she is pointedly ignoring me in front of everybody. i apologized already but i am not sure whether this is just a test or she just doesn't want to have anything to do with me anymore. should i just let her go? i am so saddened by all this. her punishing me like this has happened so many times in the past. i don't think i can bear it anymore.
does this scorpio friend want me out of her life
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LOL, you must be joking! You are going to let another person dictate who you should socialise with? Her enemies aren't yours, friends or not. She sounds controlling, maybe you should ignore her. Better still, defriend her. I hate friends like that. She is not running an army & you're not her little toy soldier.
oh watercup but i love her dearly. she's my best friend btw 😢
i was wondering maybe i deserve this bec i have been such a clingy drama queen. it was probably hard for her too. and then this thing i did just made it worse. im leo btw 😢
i was wondering maybe i deserve this bec i have been such a clingy drama queen. it was probably hard for her too. and then this thing i did just made it worse. im leo btw 😢

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I saw that! You're a leo, where's your pride? Leos hate being ignored lol & the pride kicks in. I understand she is your best friend, but that doesn't give her a right to be mad at you for having friends. That's not a crime.
I have nothing more to say to you, continue letting this person make you "feel small".

My best friend is a taurus and she is the same way, she gets jealous when I befriend other people. I don't care. Friendship doesn't = obligation. She can go find another best friend for all I care.
im a leo which is prolly why i cannot bear it any longer. it's been 2 weeks now

Posted by claaarez88
im a leo which is prolly why i cannot bear it any longer. it's been 2 weeks now
Leos are very social & likeable, you'll find a replacement in no time 🙂

I'm a Leo with a Scorpio besty too, she'll come around.
My Scorpio isn't so controlling though, she tends to withdraw when I do something she doesn't like or am hanging with peeps she doesn't get along with.
But Jesus, if she doesn't like my boyfriend or someone I work with when we breakup or I'm in a new job she unleashes on them afterwards!!! Haha!
Scorpion are amazing, deep, tender, piercing and passionate. Worth keeping, BUT if she actually cared about YOU and not about controlling you she would be behaving differently. They get a bad rap but they aren't really as petty and stabby as they're made out to be in my opinion.
I don't know if she values your friendship quite as much as you do...
My Scorpio isn't so controlling though, she tends to withdraw when I do something she doesn't like or am hanging with peeps she doesn't get along with.
But Jesus, if she doesn't like my boyfriend or someone I work with when we breakup or I'm in a new job she unleashes on them afterwards!!! Haha!
Scorpion are amazing, deep, tender, piercing and passionate. Worth keeping, BUT if she actually cared about YOU and not about controlling you she would be behaving differently. They get a bad rap but they aren't really as petty and stabby as they're made out to be in my opinion.
I don't know if she values your friendship quite as much as you do...
wagtail that last sentence just made me tear up..

Awww, Hun sorry. Sorry, it's just it could be so many things.
Don't pay me any mind, I'm probably wrong! She could love you so much she can't bear the thought of losing you and especially to an arch enemy to boot!
Man, my Scorpio has had so many frenemy situations and girls she loved/hated but after all these years she is always there when needed!
They've turned on her and she still misses them after all this time.
Maybe she misses the drama but I suspect she's just undyingly loyal underneath.
Yours is probably no different, she's going to have to marinate in her negativity for a while but before you know it you'll text or Facebook message or meet out and about and it'll be like nothing ever happened!
The key is dont buy into the bad vibes, you didn't do anything wrong, scorpions don't want you to be a total doormat, keep your self respect and she will let it go eventually.
Don't pay me any mind, I'm probably wrong! She could love you so much she can't bear the thought of losing you and especially to an arch enemy to boot!
Man, my Scorpio has had so many frenemy situations and girls she loved/hated but after all these years she is always there when needed!
They've turned on her and she still misses them after all this time.
Maybe she misses the drama but I suspect she's just undyingly loyal underneath.
Yours is probably no different, she's going to have to marinate in her negativity for a while but before you know it you'll text or Facebook message or meet out and about and it'll be like nothing ever happened!
The key is dont buy into the bad vibes, you didn't do anything wrong, scorpions don't want you to be a total doormat, keep your self respect and she will let it go eventually.
wagtail i just dont know if i should just let her be or if this is a test on her part. i have been liking and commenting on all her posts at facebook but i'm the only one she's ignored, even when i was asking something.

Obviously you leos have a different way of thinking. But scorpion or not, no friend should "punish" you for doing things SHE doesn't like. Are you kidding me? It's not all about her! Friendship is a two way thing & it shouldn't feel like there are rules to be followed. If it feels like that then it's no longer friendship, but ownership or even "cellmate ship". I'd drop someone who makes me feel like I need a nod of approval from her about who I should hang out with.

Meh, let her miss you a little.
Trust me. Even if its a test or she's playing games your not providing her with any entertainment.
It's coming across as being a suck up probably -way too easy and the power tripper is probably loving every minute of it.
It doesn't mean she doesn't love you, she's just got a greater capacity for heartlessness then you do lol
Buck up. Stop making everything about her, you obviously have other friends. Hang with them exclusively for a while, give you both some much needed space and after a month reach out again.
She may even reach out to you first. My scorp goes through these phases where she really misses our gal pal who screwed us all over ten years ago.
If she turned up now, scorp would both run her through with a pitchfork while also crying with joy at seeing her again.
They don't always make sense that's why we love em.
And look, sometimes astrology has nothin to do with it. A bitch is a bitch is a bitch. Sometimes we need better friends and they are always out there. So don't be afraid to lose her either =)
Trust me. Even if its a test or she's playing games your not providing her with any entertainment.
It's coming across as being a suck up probably -way too easy and the power tripper is probably loving every minute of it.
It doesn't mean she doesn't love you, she's just got a greater capacity for heartlessness then you do lol
Buck up. Stop making everything about her, you obviously have other friends. Hang with them exclusively for a while, give you both some much needed space and after a month reach out again.
She may even reach out to you first. My scorp goes through these phases where she really misses our gal pal who screwed us all over ten years ago.
If she turned up now, scorp would both run her through with a pitchfork while also crying with joy at seeing her again.
They don't always make sense that's why we love em.
And look, sometimes astrology has nothin to do with it. A bitch is a bitch is a bitch. Sometimes we need better friends and they are always out there. So don't be afraid to lose her either =)

Posted by WaterCup
Obviously you leos have a different way of thinking. But scorpion or not, no friend should "punish" you for doing things SHE doesn't like. Are you kidding me? It's not all about her! Friendship is a two way thing & it shouldn't feel like there are rules to be followed. If it feels like that then it's no longer friendship, but ownership or even "cellmate ship". I'd drop someone who makes me feel like I need a nod of approval from her about who I should hang out with.
I agree with this too, so... I dunno, I'm now officially put of my depth advice wise lol

Posted by claaarez88
wagtail i just dont know if i should just let her be or if this is a test on her part. i have been liking and commenting on all her posts at facebook but i'm the only one she's ignored, even when i was asking something.
You are making yourself look desperate with your "liking" her FB stuff & she is probably getting off on your desperation. Knowing that, she is now teaching you a lesson, so that next time you know not to go against HER wishes. Just like a little puppy you'll have to do exactly as she says if you don't want an encore of what is currently happening. Hilarious. She must be out of her mind!
Posted by wagtailPosted by WaterCup
Obviously you leos have a different way of thinking. But scorpion or not, no friend should "punish" you for doing things SHE doesn't like. Are you kidding me? It's not all about her! Friendship is a two way thing & it shouldn't feel like there are rules to be followed. If it feels like that then it's no longer friendship, but ownership or even "cellmate ship". I'd drop someone who makes me feel like I need a nod of approval from her about who I should hang out with.
I agree with this too, so... I dunno, I'm now officially put of my depth advice wise lolclick to expand
thank you to you both! 🙂 it helps a loy
i'm just trying to be a good best friend, not a doormat. you have no idea how much what's happening is taking a toll on me and my pride. i decided to put the friendship ahead of my pride, i guess. but it's killing me. i may need to hibernate soon.

Posted by everevolvingepithet
Where's that thread where Elle and someone else posted pics of doormats?
It's probably under someone's feet lol.
Btw, as much as scorps like to claim they don't like doormats, a part of them still likes having the upper hand/power over people. They go nuts each time they feel like they are losing control over their red carpet. Reason why I'd never date (again) or befriend one. I know their game.

Posted by kalin
No we don't like doormats, that's why we walk all over them. We don't respect them. It's fun to push people's limits when they have no limits. When we respect someone we treat them as equals. We don't talk down to them or ignore them just because they didn't do everything we wanted them to.
Why pout then when somebody doesn't do as you like?
alright so my best friend doesn't respect me after all and it's my fault. aye, i tend to please people i love. now I'm confused. i don't want to be a doormat. but i didn't see that i was becoming that. i was just trying to be a good bestie. my feeling at this point is i need to get out of the situation, i couldn't breathe now. 😢
but why would she do this? walk all over me? considering i'm her best friend. 😢

Posted by kalinPosted by WaterCupPosted by kalin
No we don't like doormats, that's why we walk all over them. We don't respect them. It's fun to push people's limits when they have no limits. When we respect someone we treat them as equals. We don't talk down to them or ignore them just because they didn't do everything we wanted them to.
Why pout then when somebody doesn't do as you like?
Believe me because we know that works the wonder when the other person doesn't have enough self respect.click to expand
Meaning, you DO like things to go your way. Why do that in the 1st place? It shouldn't matter if the person have self respect or not, but you guys can't resist testing it now, can't you? 😛

Posted by everevolvingepithetPosted by WaterCupPosted by everevolvingepithet
Where's that thread where Elle and someone else posted pics of doormats?
It's probably under someone's feet lol.
Btw, as much as scorps like to claim they don't like doormats, a part of them still likes having the upper hand/power over people. They go nuts each time they feel like they are losing control over their red carpet. Reason why I'd never date (again) or befriend one. I know their game.
So long as it's navigated in the riht order and a resolution beneficial for all is the ultimate outcome, do what y'all want with y rugs n carpets hooo!! 😄click to expand
They get worn out, the carpets I mean & turn into flying carpet just to get away from the never ending attempts at control. Alladin, here I come..they say.

Posted by kalinPosted by WaterCupPosted by kalinPosted by WaterCupPosted by kalin
No we don't like doormats, that's why we walk all over them. We don't respect them. It's fun to push people's limits when they have no limits. When we respect someone we treat them as equals. We don't talk down to them or ignore them just because they didn't do everything we wanted them to.
Why pout then when somebody doesn't do as you like?
Believe me because we know that works the wonder when the other person doesn't have enough self respect.
Meaning, you DO like things to go your way. Why do that in the 1st place? It shouldn't matter if the person have self respect or not, but you guys can't resist testing it now, can't you? 😛
Well, I never even attempted to boss aroundy my Virgo friend. I know she will just walk away. we just know by observing their interaction w others. We are smart at picking our battles. If we get free maids, why not? Plus, a lot of people are desperate to be our friends so they put themselves in a lower position to begin w. who's fault?click to expand
Yeah, some of you guys really deserve to be walked away from. Too bad there are a few who will. LOL @ those desperate to be your friends. Yeah, I've seen it online too. Pathetic!

Posted by kalin
Just like this lady in my guitar class always offers to pay for the concert tickets and pick me up as incentives for me to go with her. Since she pays every single time, of course I'm not going to go if she ever stops paying. You see that? If you get everything without having to work for it, one day when it's not free, you get upset and don't want it anymore.
Next time you see her, tell her WaterCup says "LMAO". Is she a leo?

Posted by kalin
And what's worse is, after people have taken you for granted for a long time, when you finally decide not to be a pushover, they will just think either you were faking the kindness in the past, or you've changed--either way, people will stop liking you.
Now this is true.

Posted by kalin
@WC: I'm pretty sure you were catering to the scorp in the beginning, that's why he knew he could control you. You were just like the guitar lady. Your fault. I dated a scorp before. He didn't dare to make me do anything because he knew I won't. He got upset when you were worn out and stopped doing things, because YOU CHANGED, of course he will push harder to make you change back. If you still don't get it, forget about it, just stay away from scorp as you planned, beside the way you are is prob asking people to walk over you. It's weird when you see a doormat you don't walk over it. Do you hang your doormat up as walk art? Ridiculous.
Well you're "pretty" wrong. LOL! Not in this lifetime! I dated him less than 3 mnths because he was giving me a headache. And the best part is, *I* ENDED IT & he went nuts for a while until I changed my number. Didn't want to hear him rant & rave. He even got himself transferred elsewhere after he embarrassed himself by being jealous during a Christmas party at our job (we worked together). I've seen him 2 times since & he is still bitter over the breakup. Btw, in both time HE approached MEEEE! He even told me that he is attending AA now, alcoholism is not why I dumped him though, I don't get why he doesnt get that. His jealousy, suspicion, him wanting all my time etc is WHAT did it. It gets annoying to constantly hear "I feel like we're drifting apart" just because I'm not in the mood to spend time with him. It went on & on until I got fed up and said "ciao". He never controlled me, I only went/spoke to him when/if *I* wanted, not the other way around. Nice try though.
Posted by WaterCupPosted by everevolvingepithetPosted by WaterCupPosted by everevolvingepithet
Where's that thread where Elle and someone else posted pics of doormats?
It's probably under someone's feet lol.
Btw, as much as scorps like to claim they don't like doormats, a part of them still likes having the upper hand/power over people. They go nuts each time they feel like they are losing control over their red carpet. Reason why I'd never date (again) or befriend one. I know their game.
So long as it's navigated in the riht order and a resolution beneficial for all is the ultimate outcome, do what y'all want with y rugs n carpets hooo!! 😄
They get worn out, the carpets I mean & turn into flying carpet just to get away from the never ending attempts at control. Alladin, here I come..they say.click to expand
flying carpet! _?? kalin, that was harsh.
Posted by WaterCupPosted by kalin
And what's worse is, after people have taken you for granted for a long time, when you finally decide not to be a pushover, they will just think either you were faking the kindness in the past, or you've changed--either way, people will stop liking you.
Now this is true.click to expand
oh come on! everybody loves a flying carpet! 🙂

Btw, it's normal to spend SOME time with the person you're interested in. Its nothing special or meaning you are "under their control", you're just studying them. And besides, I'm an aqua, after I'm done studying a person, I see less reasons to spend more time with them. He must have confused my "studying time" as a habit or that he has me under his thumb or whatever. Not the case!
Posted by WaterCup
Btw, it's normal to spend SOME time with the person you're interested in. Its nothing special or meaning you are "under their control", you're just studying them. And besides, I'm an aqua, after I'm done studying a person, I see less reasons to spend more time with them. He must have confused my "studying time" as a habit or that he has me under his thumb or whatever. Not the case!
Don't put us in the same "cliche" "in the box" clique. Maybe YOU don't like it.
However, I love studying on subjects I'm interested in. Human relationships too. Your partner in life isn't supposed to be part of that study. Supposedly in a perfect world a couple is supposed to "click."
It didnt click with you, that's all.

Posted by kalin
@WC: I dated an Aqua and it was bad too. He was super clingy and jealous. I guess Aqua/Scorpio is just not a favorable union.
LOL @ your aqua, he had scorpionic traits. Now THAT'S interesting! Yeah, the combo doesnt work too well for some. Scorps aren't bad, don't get me wrong, they just aren't tailored for me personally.

Posted by lisabethur8Posted by WaterCup
Btw, it's normal to spend SOME time with the person you're interested in. Its nothing special or meaning you are "under their control", you're just studying them. And besides, I'm an aqua, after I'm done studying a person, I see less reasons to spend more time with them. He must have confused my "studying time" as a habit or that he has me under his thumb or whatever. Not the case!
Don't put us in the same "cliche" "in the box" clique. Maybe YOU don't like it.
However, I love studying on subjects I'm interested in. Human relationships too. Your partner in life isn't supposed to be part of that study. Supposedly in a perfect world a couple is supposed to "click."
It didnt click with you, that's all.click to expand
Excuse me? I have a right to say "aqua" in my sentences. I am an aqua after all. Unless I say ALL then there's nothing wrong with my statement since I'm speaking about MYSELF & saying the aqua behaviours I see in MYSELF.

Posted by lisabethur8Posted by WaterCup
Btw, it's normal to spend SOME time with the person you're interested in. Its nothing special or meaning you are "under their control", you're just studying them. And besides, I'm an aqua, after I'm done studying a person, I see less reasons to spend more time with them. He must have confused my "studying time" as a habit or that he has me under his thumb or whatever. Not the case!
Don't put us in the same "cliche" "in the box" clique. Maybe YOU don't like it.
However, I love studying on subjects I'm interested in. Human relationships too. Your partner in life isn't supposed to be part of that study. Supposedly in a perfect world a couple is supposed to "click."
It didnt click with you, that's all.click to expand
And exactly, I WAS talking about myself! Where did you see me talking about YOU? My partner in life IS going to be studied. Now who is trying to box people here? LMAO

it's funny i posted at scorpio forum expecting that there will be a positive light or interpretation as to my scorpio friend's actions because it's all hard on me you know and i love her to bits. but i guess naye?
i think i did my part already. i said sorry. many times. i explained i never said anything to the other friend. we just had fun. i kept reaching out publicly and i have been pointedly ignored there too. there's just too much that i can take. and i can't anymore. this is just not sustainable if it were to go on.
it's a hard and sad thing to go through 😢

Posted by claaarez88
it's a hard and sad thing to go through 😢
Oh for goodness sake, you have a choice in all this- to break the friendship or to wait around until your friend thaws. Be sure to learn how to say "sorry" in many different languages while you're waiting, though. How many time have you apologised in the past for other "slights"? And how long is this friendship? TBH, I'd be fed up after the first two apologies. How is it possible to be ALWAYS so wrong?
Posted by WaterCupPosted by claaarez88
it's a hard and sad thing to go through 😢
Oh for goodness sake, you have a choice in all this- to break the friendship or to wait around until your friend thaws. Be sure to learn how to say "sorry" in many different languages while you're waiting, though. How many time have you apologised in the past for other "slights"? And how long is this friendship? TBH, I'd be fed up after the first two apologies. How is it possible to be ALWAYS so wrong?click to expand
many times i did. i always was rhe first to reach out. sigh. chill ac 🙂 hence, the title of my post.
ooops sorry for the typos..

Posted by claaarez88
i did something she did not like. i went for a night out with her frenemy who is also a friend of mine. now she is ignoring me. i feel so small. she is pointedly ignoring me in front of everybody. i apologized already but i am not sure whether this is just a test or she just doesn't want to have anything to do with me anymore. should i just let her go? i am so saddened by all this. her punishing me like this has happened so many times in the past. i don't think i can bear it anymore.
I would do the same thing.
You're either with me, or against me; the end.
🙂
montgomery, you would? and then what? blow off your best friend even if she said nothing to the other? perhaps a narrow definition of loyalty i think as what kalin was saying..

Posted by claaarez88
montgomery, you would? and then what? blow off your best friend even if she said nothing to the other? perhaps a narrow definition of loyalty i think as what kalin was saying..
I'm confused-- how do you go for a night out with someone and not say anything?
And how is all or nothing narrow?
Aren't you a LEO? 😕
sus
Posted by MontgomeryPosted by claaarez88
montgomery, you would? and then what? blow off your best friend even if she said nothing to the other? perhaps a narrow definition of loyalty i think as what kalin was saying..
I'm confused-- how do you go for a night out with someone and not say anything?
And how is all or nothing narrow?
Aren't you a LEO? 😕
sus
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there are sooo many other topics that can be talked about . yes it is narrow

Posted by claaarez88Posted by MontgomeryPosted by claaarez88
montgomery, you would? and then what? blow off your best friend even if she said nothing to the other? perhaps a narrow definition of loyalty i think as what kalin was saying..
I'm confused-- how do you go for a night out with someone and not say anything?
And how is all or nothing narrow?
Aren't you a LEO? 😕
sus
there are sooo many other topics that can be talked about . yes it is narrowclick to expand
You mean you didn't talk about her.
lol
Anyway-- like I said: Aren't you a LEO?
If you are, then this shouldn't be difficult for you to understand.
there are sooo many other topics that can be talked about . yes it is narrow
You mean you didn't talk about her.
lol
Anyway-- like I said: Aren't you a LEO?
If you are, then this shouldn't be difficult for you to understand.
yes it is. the sweeping all or nothing will be quite unfair esp if i we did not talk about their issues. she knows i'm friends with the other person anyway.
there are sooo many other topics that can be talked about . yes it is narrow
You mean you didn't talk about her.
lol
Anyway-- like I said: Aren't you a LEO?
If you are, then this shouldn't be difficult for you to understand.
haha, i'm a leo and i'm okay with her hanging out with people i don't like as long as she is on my side 100% which i am to her. the other friend knows this which is why we are careful steering clear of any chat involving my bestie

Posted by claaarez88
there are sooo many other topics that can be talked about . yes it is narrow
You mean you didn't talk about her.
lol
Anyway-- like I said: Aren't you a LEO?
If you are, then this shouldn't be difficult for you to understand.
haha, i'm a leo and i'm okay with her hanging out with people i don't like as long as she is on my side 100% which i am to her. the other friend knows this which is why we are careful steering clear of any chat involving my bestie
I agree with this. Why should you two talk about her anyway, is she a celebitchy? Paranoia is not a healthy state of mind. Meds, anyone?
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