HELP! SCORPIO MAN QUERY PROBLEMS

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Ladies, (regardless of sign)

I have been noticing the following thread characteristics:
You have a problem and you seek answers. So far, so good.

I am a (Your Sign) and I:
a) am head over heels for a scorpio man
b) don't understand my scorpio man
c) want my scorpio man back

Problem along with the questions often posed, we
find comments along these lines:

"I ask other women for help with my Scorpio Man."
"I don't communicate with my Scorpio Man because
he just doesn't get it."
"When I demand answers from him, I speak up and the
moment he replies, I tell him I don't want to talk
to him."
"I love him, but I want to choke him."

——

They come in ask their questions, then get mad at you for answering

Example

"HI, I am a (sign) and I am seeking advice from a Scorpio MAN...."

Everyone BUT a Scorpio MAN answers the thread.

WHEN a Scorpio MAN answers, offering the wisdom sought by the female,
about the mysterious ways Scorpio Male. He KNOWS he can offer his
answer based on his OWN personal experiences as The Scorpio Man.
When he has completed his carefully crafted but not so painstakenly lengthy
reply. The female, be it of his own or another sign will then proceed engage
in conversation with others, either in public or behind the scenes with other
women, regardless of sign, to find out what is wrong with HIM!

Am I the only Scorpio Man to have noticed this phenomenon?

And now, a word from my sponsor:
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OH OHHHHH! Hold up wait a minute. I know this thread is directed at me because in my previous thread you were throwing a tantrum and then proceeded to get snotty with me when I guess I didn't offer you enough of what you wanted. What do you want? Seriously. I know this is directed at me so here I am posting right back at you. It's not only ME who is making these posts but I supposed you get nasty with me for hell knows what reason. Im sure everyone is going to be running to your aide but you were indeed not very nice. I said thank you and I do appreciate your "in depth" retort as you put it. However....HOWEVER, I was hoping you would have had something more constructive instead of posting me videos chastising me because I am a female AND a Gemini.
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Crabmoon, ok then, but u still dont know whats going on in their heads thou. We soak in every single thing thats said and go throu it. We might seem not to be listening with the mouth going overdrive, but the brain is quietly absorbing everything said. We listen, just not now with all these other distraction. Lets face it, people rarely stick to the topic at hand in discussions, since we are easily distracted and stimulated mentally, we directly concentrate on whats stimulating us more while forgetting the main reason for the discussion.
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Posted by BullGem
Oh, Mr. F But...it was thanks to you that I got over my 1st issue with my scorp, remember? You helped and thank you.

*kisses*



Posted by BullGem
Posted by Xin
What?! Where is my constructive advice? Did he post videos for said "help"? I guess he just hates my ass cause I'm a Gem...



nope, I listened. Took his advice, straight from a scorpio man, into consideration...it worked.

Give credit where credit is due 😉
click to expand





...I TOO was helped by MrFirebird...gave me more insight on my Scorp during his brief disappearance. Now My Scorp is BACK and things are better than ever!

Sometimes you just gotta ZIP it and take IN the message. No matter what package it comes in..or multimedia choice..LOL 😉
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Xin,

1) I am patiently waiting for you to calm down from your presumptuous hyperventilative psychoanalysis.

2) This thread was NOT specifically about you, but you KNOW that it is befitting you for your outbursts.

3) You're very cute when your angry.

4) I am still waiting for you to emotionally calm down.

5) I am NOT your enemy.

6) Please, try to relax - Breath deep, exhale... Breath in the air.... That's it.... lighten your troubled mind.

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Uh oh.....
Hey! I am not sick and ... good grief I am NOT on my deathbed.
Thanks to those were concerned about me, but really, I am just fine!
Didn't mean set off any alarms and apologies for any misunderstandings.

Now.... where was I—?

Deathbed—
Public Execution—
lol, that's pretty good.

Don't you all know they write and sing about me? 😉
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OMG!LOL

Why throw tantrums dear scorpios males?
If the girls understood how scorpio men work, they wouldn't be in such state of confusion in the first place and asking for advice Duhhh Just be patient with those poor souls

Dear confused girls, scorpio men like to be listened to, and you need to sit and be VERY focused. Ultimately they like to be right and be respected for their sound advice. If you can do that and then throw a "Wooww you are so wise. How din't I saw that before? You are so awesome!!! Thank you for being in my life! Let me give you a big hug now. Do you wanna have sex?" then you seal the deal!
LOL
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Posted by Demeter
OMG!LOL

Why throw tantrums dear scorpios males?
If the girls understood how scorpio men work, they wouldn't be in such state of confusion in the first place and asking for advice Duhhh Just be patient with those poor souls

Dear confused girls, scorpio men like to be listened to, and you need to sit and be VERY focused. Ultimately they like to be right and be respected for their sound advice. If you can do that and then throw a "Wooww you are so wise. How din't I saw that before? You are so awesome!!! Thank you for being in my life! Let me give you a big hug now. Do you wanna have sex?" then you seal the deal!
LOL



Demeter, et al,
The point I am making is this:
IF you are a woman, regardless of sign, and are going to ask a question about a Scorpio Man,
you ask a Scorpio MAN, and you DO focus on what the Scorpio Man says, being mindful that he
is speaking from his own perspective and no one else's. She should focus strictly on the
Scorpio Man's answer because that is whom she directed her question toward.

This is NOT rocket science.
It's basic universal communication common sense.
EX:
You don't ask an auto mechanic a question about diesel mechanics and you don't ask a diesel mechanic
a question about rocket science and you don't ask a rocket scientist a question about brain surgery and
you definitely don't ask a brain surgeon a question about teaching and you don't ask a teacher a question
about how it all works. You ask a stupid truck driver. Why? Because he knows where it came from and
where it went and how it got there and he knows this because he picks up and delivers.

***I'll ratchet it up one more notch.***
IF you REALLY want the most accurate and concise answer to any question regarding your Scorpio Man, HE
IS...THE MAN to ask, and HE is THE MAN you should listen to.
Show him the respect he deserves and he will give you, your answer, honestly.
Throw a tantrum because you don't like what you hear and you might not get another answer, so easily.
Keep that up and sooner or later, he's hittin' the road.
Something to think about, ladies.
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Posted by WaterCup
What if something cooler happens? It would be really, really hard to focus to "the scorpio man" then imho. I know u mean well, mrfire, but some of us arent built like that, boredom creeps in pretty quick and attention span is midget sized. Please understand that too and im not being disrespectful here (promise).




WaterCup,
Ok, now we have something to work with...
You know...., when we read about this or that sign, we come across
the attributes. Sometimes, we see them listed in positive and negative
groups. I firmly believe that the point of these +/- groupings are
to offer us insights about ourselves that we may or may not be aware of.
Insights that can draw to our attention to the - things that we need
to work on and the + things we need to appreciate, nurture and encourage.
In ourselves and in others around us.

Just because you are not "built" like that doesn't mean you cannot "modify"
yourself so that you can overcome that - quality that makes it difficult
grasp and communicate with those that possess depth and passion.

Can an Air Sign and a Water sign coexist?
If we look in around in nature, it CAN be done.

What is water?
H2O
What is H2O?
Oxygen and Hydrogen
You give us air to breathe, we give you bombs.... lol.... sorry.
You can bring us up in the form of beautiful and fearsome clouds with your atmosphere
and we can bring you to the depths of our seas.
The children of our sensuously deep and explosive passion can best be described as
human water bombs at play. Visions of flying water balloon children. Sounds like fun, don't it??

Now, the only that can work is when each side is willing to compromise and the two
come together. It's no different here on this forum. To come to a common understanding
we must work on our differences so we CAN communicate effectively that we might resolve
a common conflict.
Water is heavier than air. Air is light.
That said....
Xin and her Scorpio have to work their problems out in like matter for it prosper.
She MUST be receptive to him and respectful, he may need to lighten up. But mind you
in order for the two of them to mingle they both must compromise. Either he becomes a cloud
in the sky or she becomes a peculiar bubble in the bathtub. And perfection is when
the sea foam sprays over the boards and the rocks.

With that, I say....
Come Together
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Mr fireBird, I am not against you. Sometimes I just overcome my reservations to participate in drama, hence my reply here. I am very vocal and strong opinated. I come accross abrasive at times, but I mean well and I don't like hurting others for no reason. But just as well, I just don't like unfair situations and this type of threads propagates hate and I felt like air signs were being mistreated here for just being themselves.

When you ask about science or math, there is *possibly* a right answer.
You ask about feelings, and you get answers that are subjective, hence you get many answers that are right for that person. Point is, none is wrong. try not be so stuck up.

And there will be the day I mirror myself in what other scorpios say, so I don't agree a scorpio is the only qualified person to answer to a question about scorpios. I do agree they might have a privileged insight AT TIMES. But OMG! What BS comes out of my brothers and sisters at times! I just feel what the hell is she/he talking about? I am not that way and I would rather eat my heart if that was true for me!

Speak your mind by all means, but don't think your truth is gospel. Hell, I give very good advice to my daughter and that girl just does what she wants anyway. I could scream at her and say.. "listen here missy, I know better, do as I told you." But that will be so damaging for her self esteem and also so condescending, so I just give my piece of mind and LET IT GO. I often think.. "Since you choose to be stubborn, you will learn the hard way" . PEOPLE LEARN AT THEIR OWN PACE!

Lastly, I get you and men in general getting really angry when feeling disrespected or not listened to. That is really a mood killer. But take foruns with a grain of salt. It is not like you know who you are talking to. For all that matters, it can be 12yo or some troll and some really bored person. Don't take it so personal or you will lose the fun of it! Thanks for the song.
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Posted by Demeter
Mr fireBird, I am not against you. Sometimes I just overcome my reservations to participate in drama, hence my reply here. I am very vocal and strong opinated. I come accross abrasive at times, but I mean well and I don't like hurting others for no reason. But just as well, I just don't like unfair situations and this type of threads propagates hate and I felt like air signs were being mistreated here for just being themselves.

When you ask about science or math, there is *possibly* a right answer.
You ask about feelings, and you get answers that are subjective, hence you get many answers that are right for that person. Point is, none is wrong. try not be so stuck up.

And there will be the day I mirror myself in what other scorpios say, so I don't agree a scorpio is the only qualified person to answer to a question about scorpios. I do agree they might have a privileged insight AT TIMES. But OMG! What BS comes out of my brothers and sisters at times! I just feel what the hell is she/he talking about? I am not that way and I would rather eat my heart if that was true for me!

Speak your mind by all means, but don't think your truth is gospel. Hell, I give very good advice to my daughter and that girl just does what she wants anyway. I could scream at her and say.. "listen here missy, I know better, do as I told you." But that will be so damaging for her self esteem and also so condescending, so I just give my piece of mind and LET IT GO. I often think.. "Since you choose to be stubborn, you will learn the hard way" . PEOPLE LEARN AT THEIR OWN PACE!

Lastly, I get you and men in general getting really angry when feeling disrespected or not listened to. That is really a mood killer. But take foruns with a grain of salt. It is not like you know who you are talking to. For all that matters, it can be 12yo or some troll and some really bored person. Don't take it so personal or you will lose the fun of it! Thanks for the song.



+1

Wow. This made my day.
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LIB, "there are some ppl who wouldnt know the truth even it hit them upside the head"- i disagree with this cause nobody really knows THE TRUTH. Its only the truth if it sounds true/real to u and only u. Example, some ppl believe in aliens, faeries and whatnot, i dont, but it doesnt mean that what they believe in is not true or real just bcoz i dont believe in that stuff. Everybody has their own truth.
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Posted by Demeter
Mr fireBird, I am not against you. Sometimes I just overcome my reservations to participate in drama, hence my reply here. I am very vocal and strong opinated. I come accross abrasive at times, but I mean well and I don't like hurting others for no reason. But just as well, I just don't like unfair situations and this type of threads propagates hate and I felt like air signs were being mistreated here for just being themselves.

When you ask about science or math, there is *possibly* a right answer.
You ask about feelings, and you get answers that are subjective, hence you get many answers that are right for that person. Point is, none is wrong. try not be so stuck up.

And there will be the day I mirror myself in what other scorpios say, so I don't agree a scorpio is the only qualified person to answer to a question about scorpios. I do agree they might have a privileged insight AT TIMES. But OMG! What BS comes out of my brothers and sisters at times! I just feel what the hell is she/he talking about? I am not that way and I would rather eat my heart if that was true for me!

Speak your mind by all means, but don't think your truth is gospel. Hell, I give very good advice to my daughter and that girl just does what she wants anyway. I could scream at her and say.. "listen here missy, I know better, do as I told you." But that will be so damaging for her self esteem and also so condescending, so I just give my piece of mind and LET IT GO. I often think.. "Since you choose to be stubborn, you will learn the hard way" . PEOPLE LEARN AT THEIR OWN PACE!

Lastly, I get you and men in general getting really angry when feeling disrespected or not listened to. That is really a mood killer. But take foruns with a grain of salt. It is not like you know who you are talking to. For all that matters, it can be 12yo or some troll and some really bored person. Don't take it so personal or you will lose the fun of it! Thanks for the song.




Demeter,
Allow me to try again.
This post is on this wise:

"Hi everybody!
I have a problem with my boyfriend, he is a scorpio."

and all the women said:

AYE!

Scorpio Man offers his two cents... as best he can, from HIS perspective and
somehow.... some way..., some, not all the women say....

NAY!

Now.... I am thinking.... ok, that didn't work.... and try another tact.

This has happened on a number o
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Posted by Jynja
Wonder if everyone has realized Mr. Fire's not the first Scorpio man to complain about this?

Wonder if Mr. Firebird has realized half the people who come on to complain about their Scorpio men were not listening to him in the first place?

Wonder if Mr. Firebird and other Scorpios have noticed Scorpio/Scorpio unions are rare and far between because Scorpio man says Yay, and Scorpio woman says Nay.

Wonder if Demeter can agree that people learning at their own pace has nothing to do with anything. If you don't listen to your Scorpio man and won't listen to other Scorpio men, you should consider just cutting them out and finding one that blabbers on forever, then you can tune him out or learn to be with him at your own pace. Because, obviously, Scorpio man wants to be heard now.

Wonder if Mr. Firebird might be too "nice" Notice Mr. Dazed - you get the reply cut square from granite (gotta love and hug that Leo moon with kisses and smooches). Mr. Firebird is sweet Scorpio man, or?

Wonder if all Scorpios can agree to ask for a person's chart before addressing their problems, so when Mr. Firebird sees sun sign in air, he can make informed decision based on past experiences and other Scorpio women's "comments" before he offers advice... or go hang out in Cafe and play us awesome music.

Me likey!

*meow*


Demeter here thinks that people learning at their own pace has everything to do with everything IN LIFE. Basic wisdom. Basic respect for others. When we can't put ourselves in others shoes it is kinda of hard to understand them and makes a very stubborn, stuck up person that feels frustrated because other people don't understand them. Now, that is a general view on why we don't all get along. We often can see our own belly button and forget to acknowledge that others have different life experiences and hence different perceptions, different ways of processing data. Shove your opinion down their throats is a very aggressive way to deal with other people. You don't have to get along with others you don't like, but then complain "it is them, not me.." Seems very lacking of self awareness.

As for scorpio men in particular, your damn right they want to be heard. It is a very simple concept, glad you grasped that one. Totally agree.
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Jynja:
HA! So that is what you wanted all along? I was wondering what your true intentions were some hours ago. You were baiting me to have an intelligent discussion? HA! Makes sense. Not sure if I am up to that challenge LOL I will give it a try! 😉

But if we are to get along, let me first set my boundaries and explain why the way you communicated before, sends me to defense mode.

—I Wonder if Demeter can agree that people learning at their own pace has nothing to do with anything. Bla bla bla??

Well, being addressed in the 3rd person isn't my cup of tea. For me it sounds kinda of sneaky and passive aggressive. And starting a sentence by casually wondering (assuming?) I will agree to something you believe is rather arrogant. I might, but just ask me directly, explaining what your stance about that topic is. Finally taking a sentence of mine out of context, patch it up with several other lines that are musing about something that I inclusively agreed before and accepted as being true for me, sounds wayyyy deceptive, like manipulating words to make it look you are right.

By reading your next response, I can see now you didn't really had any negative intentions. So ok, fair enough, misunderstandings happen. Thank you for your kind reply, taking the time to write a long response as to explain your perspective. In return, I will have the same courtesy so sorry in advance to you because it might get a bit lengthy. I am in chatty mood LOL

—Well, these people can afford others some basic respect too. Joining in the fray to oppose someone's whose opinion they specifically asked for in the first place makes them disrespectful, too. If a person feels frustrated with another and shoots him, does the law say, "don't worry, we don't understand you so you can go?"
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I think the world would be a better place if we all would give respect to each other. When a person gives his advice with the best of intentions, I think it is mindful to get a thank you. Credit should be due where it is deserved. That being said, I see people replying to threads all the time with the intention of just voicing their own judgmental opinion, mocking, be entertained, to make themselves feel superior. They give their biased, negative experience, try others to agree to it. Often they have a gang mentality, some signs are always in the wrong, others are in the —do no wrong??club even when said guy of —do no wrong group?? is an asshole Arghhh Just because some people takes the time to answer, doesn't mean they want to help. Period. Can't blame OP for failing to realize what your true motivations might be. Also while giving your opinion at a forum, you are not invested in the situation, the OP probably (??!) is, he would be more vulnerable and ready to jump and get defensive? My point is that some tact is needed when replying to other people and be consistent with that through the all thread. So I am not advocating for rude people in either side, OP or advisers. I abhor cruelty, rudeness and inconsideration. I have also seen some really funny OPs in the short time I have being here too hahaha Well, some things aren't really funny, I guess one needs to take it with sense of humor and think they are trolling?

I digress. I think it is a more human stance to say to someone —we don't understand you, you can go?? then to say —we don't understand you, you are stupid??. Both are damaging thought, but I assume the later is worse? Not sure, because ideal for me is —we don't understand you, can you explain it to me again so I can see if I can help you—. Not feasible? I guess realistically it isn't, given that people aren't that invested in giving opinions to people they have no connection with, aka forum. So, that leads to other of my personal observations: that when someone is so upset over a forum reply from some unknown person, it has to do with personal issues that need to be addressed and solved. Why take it out on others? Not productive for either. Hate, hate, hate! We as a group have forgotten how to love and be supportive. Just want to be understood, but not giving understanding back? Double standards much?
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—I, honest to God, don't understand what "seeing our own belly button" is. However, even on dxp there are people with different perceptions, experiences and ways of processing data (as you put it) too. How do we learn to keep it generally calm? because respect comes from both sides of the divide. —
Seeing our own belly is what we by default learn. And it couldn't be in any other way, since our opinions are based in our own reality, our experience and perceptions. It is a step further to be able to see how other people might feel in a given situation. It is called empathy, though it is up to debate if it is real or not. Imho we learn to keep it generally calm when we find a balance inside of us, when we are happy by just being us. When others opinions don't make us doubt who we are. When what they say doesn't threaten our world. When you are free to say what you want (within ethical principles), knowing that you will meet resistance when your opinions aren't popular but that is ok for you, because you are who you and you love yourself the way you are. And when learn how to differentiate what is really important and should affect our well being and what it isn't that important (or shouldn't be)...
Opinions and attitudes of a loved one, friend you really care and has known you for years? Very important even when it something you??d rather not hear! They care.
Opinions and actions of strangers? Should be taken into consideration, but just as well taken with a grain of salt till further analysis and processing. They probably don't care more about you then what they care about themselves. Why the anger?

—I've read through this portion several times but can't understand it. Are you saying the Scorpio men need to get along with the OPs? Or do you mean they shouldn't express a different opinion because they haven't examined themselves? —
I am saying that you should express yourself freely and honestly but have no expectations about how it is received by the other side. If it is nicely received, then you get your heart filled and a big smile. You might be paving your way to gain an online friend. If the other person fails to see your point, make a decision if you want to make a further effort or just let it go. We are who we are and it is our personal responsibility to be grateful for the good people we have in our life and at the same time understand that just as much as we don't like everybody, not everybody is going to like you
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Furthermore, at a forum, we don't see people in full, we see their opinions (words), non verbal language is absent so it so easy to get upset for imagined offenses. I raise my hand for being guilty of this too, it really depends on the day mood LOL. But ultimately if you don't like a poster or his opinions, it is your right, say your piece by all means, but being petty and blame it on their sun sign, for instance??_ Now that is lame and an undignified way to carry yourself.

—Now this^^^
Correct my ascension and moon if they're wrong, but this comes off as impassioned, condescending and insulting. This is merely an intelligent discussion, and if it will degenerate into a flagrant display of roiling emotions, then I'm outta here.
Cheers!??

It is a bitter sweet last remark, I agree. Sarcasm shows at times, like when I am not certain about what others motivations. It was fun for me, but obviously not so much for you. I could have been more sensitive, so sorry about that! I can see why you felt offended.

Cheers right back at you and have a nice weekend!