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Betrayal is such a heart wrenching experience on the heart of a Stinger.

When the trust which you had placed in the person, was used against you.

The dagger stabbing you right into the depths of your soul.

The numbing pain creates this well of anger, it seethes, it hates, it bites and it lashes out.

How could you entrust such vulnerability to someone, only for them to abuse it, and manipulate you for it.

Why would and could a Stinger throw all sense of intuition and gut feelings out of the window, when you knew all along something was a miss, and to end up doing things you sorely regret.

To be made a fool, when you are far wiser than that.

Why must we love the way we do ?

Betrayal. Such an ugly word.
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Betrayal is such a heart wrenching experience on the heart of a Stinger.

When the trust which you had placed in the person, was used against you.

The dagger stabbing you right into the depths of your soul.

The numbing pain creates this well of anger, it seethes, it hates, it bites and it lashes out.

How could you entrust such vulnerability to someone, only for them to abuse it, and manipulate you for it.

Why would and could a Stinger throw all sense of intuition and gut feelings out of the window, when you knew all along something was a miss, and to end up doing things you sorely regret.

To be made a fool, when you are far wiser than that.

Why must we love the way we do ?

Betrayal. Such an ugly word.
This was all me about 3/4 months ago. Best I can say about my situation with that particular person, is that even though I knew better, I couldn't be better. I was very weak and vulnerable, too much so to make the right decision, even for the good of myself. I didn't put a lot of value in myself and was using that particular experience as a way of punishing myself. Sort of like locking onto my insecurities.

Really humiliating. And crushing for my pride more than anything else. But it's not the job of the betrayed to carry the shame of the betrayer. Sometimes you feel like you have to, especially if the person who hurt you doesn't care or at least seems not to.

You'd be a fool to not have learned. You're wiser for the lesson. Though that's a shitty platitude that doesn't bring too much comfort in the immediate lol. My friends said that and I was like 'yeah ok. I'll take not learning a lesson though of it means I don't feel this awful' lol
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Somewhere, along the way, I think I let them or allowed them to diminish the value I had in myself. Somehow, I let their warped mentality infiltrate my own. They used my own weaknesses against me, when it was entrusted to them for safeguarding, or so I had thought.

It is humiliating, Elly. My pride took a blow but it seemed to have rebounded far quicker than it had before, I thank my anger for that, for it to have kicked in, to have saved me. There is so much shame, I should have known better, I had learned this lesson in the past with other men ...

Why did I let this one slip past my radar ? why did I manage to let him get under my skin ? or did I see what I wanted to see and not what I knew was there ?

Always wanting to see the potential good in people, and when they let you down to show you their true selves, you kick yourself for it. You knew they were up to no good, but you help on to hope, the belief, that there is good in them.

What a sad trait of a Stinger ... or maybe it is simply just me ?

The strange thing is, in the past, I would not only have kicked myself but would wallow, incessantly for a short period of time. This time, I just want to work, to do things, to regain a sense of self, to enjoy and learn of my own company again for a change. The 'feeling awful' part comes from having been manipulated and used, nobody enjoys that process, the betrayal.

Astonishingly, I do not feel bitter. I merely want change, for myself.
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Betrayal is such a heart wrenching experience on the heart of a Stinger.

When the trust which you had placed in the person, was used against you.

The dagger stabbing you right into the depths of your soul.

The numbing pain creates this well of anger, it seethes, it hates, it bites and it lashes out.

How could you entrust such vulnerability to someone, only for them to abuse it, and manipulate you for it.

Why would and could a Stinger throw all sense of intuition and gut feelings out of the window, when you knew all along something was a miss, and to end up doing things you sorely regret.

To be made a fool, when you are far wiser than that.

Why must we love the way we do ?

Betrayal. Such an ugly word.
This was all me about 3/4 months ago. Best I can say about my situation with that particular person, is that even though I knew better, I couldn't be better. I was very weak and vulnerable, too much so to make the right decision, even for the good of myself. I didn't put a lot of value in myself and was using that particular experience as a way of punishing myself. Sort of like locking onto my insecurities.

Really humiliating. And crushing for my pride more than anything else. But it's not the job of the betrayed to carry the shame of the betrayer. Sometimes you feel like you have to, especially if the person who hurt you doesn't care or at least seems not to.

You'd be a fool to not have learned. You're wiser for the lesson. Though that's a shitty platitude that doesn't bring too much comfort in the immediate lol. My friends said that and I was like 'yeah ok. I'll take not learning a lesson though of it means I don't feel this awful' lol
Somewhere, along the way, I think I let them or allowed them to diminish the value I had in myself. Somehow, I let their warped mentality infiltrate my own. They used my own weaknesses against me, when it was entrusted to them for safeguarding, or so I had thought.

It is humiliating, Elly. My pride took a blow but it seemed to have rebounded far quicker than it had before, I thank my anger for that, for it to have kicked in, to have saved me. There is so much shame, I should have known better, I had learned this lesson in the past with other men ... why did I let this one slip past my radar ? why did I manage to let him get under my skin ? or did I see what I wanted to see and not what I knew was there ?

Always wanting to see the potential good in people, and when they let you down to show you their true selves, you kick yourself for it. You knew they were up to no good, but you help on to hope, the belief, that there is good in them. What a sad trait of a Stinger ... or maybe it is simply just me ?

The strange thing is, in the past, I would not only have kicked myself but would wallow, incessantly for a short period of time. This time, I just want to work, to do things, to regain a sense of self, to enjoy and learn of my own company again for a change. The 'feeling awful' part comes from having been manipulated and used, nobody enjoys that process, the betrayal.




Yeah the last few months have shown me new uses for anger than what I previously had opened my mind to lol. I never knew I could be so casually cruel until someone very knowingly and obviously lorded my misplaced trust over me. Surefire way to send a Scorpio into cutthroat mode, public humiliation + using our greatest insecurities against us for personal gain.
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Anyways Elly, (((hugs))) and I am glad you are doing better for yourself. 🙂

I suppose we will never truly know our strengths until we are pushed into a situation, which puts our limits to the test.
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Betrayal is such a heart wrenching experience on the heart of a Stinger.

When the trust which you had placed in the person, was used against you.

The dagger stabbing you right into the depths of your soul.

The numbing pain creates this well of anger, it seethes, it hates, it bites and it lashes out.

How could you entrust such vulnerability to someone, only for them to abuse it, and manipulate you for it.

Why would and could a Stinger throw all sense of intuition and gut feelings out of the window, when you knew all along something was a miss, and to end up doing things you sorely regret.

To be made a fool, when you are far wiser than that.

Why must we love the way we do ?

Betrayal. Such an ugly word.
This was all me about 3/4 months ago. Best I can say about my situation with that particular person, is that even though I knew better, I couldn't be better. I was very weak and vulnerable, too much so to make the right decision, even for the good of myself. I didn't put a lot of value in myself and was using that particular experience as a way of punishing myself. Sort of like locking onto my insecurities.

Really humiliating. And crushing for my pride more than anything else. But it's not the job of the betrayed to carry the shame of the betrayer. Sometimes you feel like you have to, especially if the person who hurt you doesn't care or at least seems not to.

You'd be a fool to not have learned. You're wiser for the lesson. Though that's a shitty platitude that doesn't bring too much comfort in the immediate lol. My friends said that and I was like 'yeah ok. I'll take not learning a lesson though of it means I don't feel this awful' lol
Somewhere, along the way, I think I let them or allowed them to diminish the value I had in myself. Somehow, I let their warped mentality infiltrate my own. They used my own weaknesses against me, when it was entrusted to them for safeguarding, or so I had thought.

It is humiliating, Elly. My pride took a blow but it seemed to have rebounded far quicker than it had before, I thank my anger for that, for it to have kicked in, to have saved me. There is so much shame, I should have known better, I had learned this lesson in the past with other men ... why did I let this one slip past my radar ? why did I manage to let him get under my skin ? or did I see what I wanted to see and not what I knew was there ?

Always wanting to see the potential good in people, and when they let you down to show you their true selves, you kick yourself for it. You knew they were up to no good, but you help on to hope, the belief, that there is good in them. What a sad trait of a Stinger ... or maybe it is simply just me ?

The strange thing is, in the past, I would not only have kicked myself but would wallow, incessantly for a short period of time. This time, I just want to work, to do things, to regain a sense of self, to enjoy and learn of my own company again for a change. The 'feeling awful' part comes from having been manipulated and used, nobody enjoys that process, the betrayal.




Yeah the last few months have shown me new uses for anger than what I previously had opened my mind to lol. I never knew I could be so casually cruel until someone very knowingly and obviously lorded my misplaced trust over me. Surefire way to send a Scorpio into cutthroat mode, public humiliation + using our greatest insecurities against us for personal gain.
Anyways Elly, (((hugs))) and I am glad you are doing better for yourself. 🙂

I suppose we will never truly know our strengths until we are pushed into a situation, which puts our limits to the test.
Which is so hard as a Scorpio! I really love breaking my limits.

My libra best has a Scorpio son and even at his young age she is baffled at how he's attracted to the more macabre and complicated aspects in life. She often says 'why do y'all always have to be so interested in scary and creepy things? Why can't you want candy and puppies?' Lol. To which I tell her that to is, we feel about the scary and creepy things the way most people feel about puppies and candy lol. It tests our limits which gives us growth and peace.

Probably also contributes to the problem of trusting when you really know better. 😆 I think water signs are suckers for a good story. We love a narrative.
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Hmm, I do not think we enjoy breaking limits and conventions as much as those Aquas do.

Instead, we merely relish the change in transformations, to see what we could resurrect as. We enjoy shedding layers, to reinvent ourselves. That curiosity, in combination with a lack of fear, to delve into our own inner well of potentials is why most others believe us to be mad.

Strange though, since we are a fixed sign, yet we enjoy going from one point to the next, always growing. Perhaps unlike other energies, such as the cardinal or mutable, we do not enjoy flickering between states, back and forth. We go from one to the next, without ever looking back, concrete in our resolution.

We are truly 'suckers for a good story', or because we understand the subtleties underlying human complexities and intentions. We understand nothing is as simple as it appears at times, nor as complex as it appears as well. We see too much, more than we should, but our emotions collide with our logical rational. There lies the grave fault in our otherwise great analytical abilities. 😆

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Betrayal is such a heart wrenching experience on the heart of a Stinger.

When the trust which you had placed in the person, was used against you....

How could you entrust such vulnerability to someone, only for them to abuse it, and manipulate you for it...

Betrayal. Such an ugly word.

I'm sorry this happened to you.

The last time I allowed myself to truly be vulnerable, place trust in someone with any piece of me that could be used against me I was 13. I've never made that mistake again. With anyone. Yes I share, but nothing that if shared, tossed around carelessly or used to try to manipulate me or hurt me would have any impact.

I know that leaves me somewhat distant from my lovers, less connected, unavailable to touch, it's not something I am willing to push through right now. I can't bring myself to walk through the same door twice.
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Betrayal is such a heart wrenching experience on the heart of a Stinger.

When the trust which you had placed in the person, was used against you....

How could you entrust such vulnerability to someone, only for them to abuse it, and manipulate you for it...

Betrayal. Such an ugly word.

I'm sorry this happened to you.

The last time I allowed myself to truly be vulnerable, place trust in someone with any piece of me that could be used against me I was 13. I've never made that mistake again. With anyone. Yes I share, but nothing that if shared, tossed around carelessly or used to try to manipulate me or hurt me would have any impact.

I know that leaves me somewhat distant from my lovers, less connected, unavailable to touch, it's not something I am willing to push through right now. I can't bring myself to walk through the same door twice.

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I had no fear in placing my vulnerability into the hands of another, some may call it foolishness but I believe it takes this open honesty for solid trust to be built. It may not be for everyone, however any and all pieces of vulnerability could be used against you if the individual in question is a master manipulator. There is no escaping those who have dedicated their lives, to prey.

I have learned from my experiences, you could not stop others from choosing to harm you. I have also learned, that I would not let them dictate how I will or will not go about living my life. To close and reduce myself to a lesser version because of what they would do. They could very well go to bloody hell, I may feel pain but I will rise like a phoenix would and be on my way towards a transformation.

It hurts, it is heart breaking, but I also know what does not break me, will make me stronger. Nothing will break me, as long as I remain without fear. I do not fear the door, the only fear I fear, is the inability to ever get up again. Live to fight another day, thrive and be a survivor.

(((hugs)))

I always appreciate your kind words and sentiment, PR.
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Also, one person may have harmed me in the past but I would not carry the wrong doings and sins of that person unto the next. That is unfair to all those individual who are yet to come into my future.

I believe in consequences for the now, those who inflict damage, will get their dues. However, all those in my future, receives a clean slate.

Call me foolish, but it is something in which I believe in. 🙂
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A hug from a Crabette moon would be nice about now, the wind chill factor has gone drastically up in here. 😆

(((hugs)))
*run and tackle hugs you.*

*knocks you over.*

*picks you up*

*picks you up with a hug and spins you in three precise circles and puts you down gently*

*falls over cause dizzy*
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I knew I could always rely on a Crabette Moon to save the day with a hug. 😄

Elly, I am dizzy as well ... care for a cupcake ? 😆

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Also, one person may have harmed me in the past but I would not carry the wrong doings and sins of that person unto the next. That is unfair to all those individual who are yet to come into my future.

I believe in consequences for the now, those who inflict damage, will get their dues. However, all those in my future, receives a clean slate.

This may be true. I suppose when I made the promise to myself I had yet to master my anger. As a immature and very volatile Scorp, the alternative to continuing to trust others with the ability to harm me was the most favourable. I still don't have a good handle on my anger, and have only learned to internalize it vs manage it.

With that said, I always keep my promises, since very few in my life have.

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Also, one person may have harmed me in the past but I would not carry the wrong doings and sins of that person unto the next. That is unfair to all those individual who are yet to come into my future.

I believe in consequences for the now, those who inflict damage, will get their dues. However, all those in my future, receives a clean slate.

This may be true. I suppose when I made the promise to myself I had yet to master my anger. I still don't have a good handle on it, and have only learned to internalize it vs manage it. With that said, I always keep my promises, since very few in my life have.

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PR, I am sorry to hear that and I truly empathise with that pain.

Now the anger I relate with, I would hold it in, let the resentment build especially when I am not allowed to express myself, to have my voice shut down. This is compounded with the fact that, even after having developed great communication skills, when they are taken away from me because of stone walling and silence as a means of control. The anger will eventually cause retaliation.

Once it blows, I have no way of repairing that blown fuse. My anger will set me on a path of action, a rage of sorts, but not the rage of abusers or bullies, but a rage which causes change, change within me.

There is still unmastered anger within me as well, but I am always trying to learn to not fight it, but to speak with my anger, to try to understand it. To be comfortable with my anger, for that alone dissipates the atomic bombs that could potentially be released from it.

I very much doubt the anger would truly be gone, it is valuable fuel when used correctly. We need anger, the anger, is a vital signal to us, a barometer which keeps us from danger.



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Lady,

There are very few things I see in distinct black and white. Betrayal is one of those things. There is no justification one could give me to explain it away. I will listen, nod and proceed to distance myself from that person. There is no empathy. I'm not angry or holding a grudge. Simply placing that person in the category of "experience" that will slowly fade from memory. Like an old scar that has faded and healed over. You really need to search for it to see.

As for:

"...That is unfair to all those individual who are yet to come into my future.

...all those in my future, receives a clean slate."

I don't know if keeping a part of myself to myself is being unfair. We share ourselves as we are fit. It's our choice to make. Not unlike the average Scorp keeping parts of themselves hidden until they feel the time is right. Whether it is months or years, you don't reveal all of yourself until you begin to bond with another, right? I simply don't make that shift at any point. My mind and body can be shared, but is not given to another. If that makes sense. Given my limitations in this area, I try to avoid losing a potentially decent person from my life because I have yet to master the ability to see grey.



Put another way, one can't take issue with something they don't know they don't have. The partners in my life have no idea they do not have my whole heart. None (to my knowledge through communication) felt less loved or connected to me. Even without words of love expressed. They are simply under the impression that this connection is with everything that make up who I am. I don't bother to correct them.

The only person I am being unfair to is myself because I am fully aware of what I am going without.

PS This was edited 6x. I am sure they're is still an error in there somewhere 😄
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Also, one person may have harmed me in the past but I would not carry the wrong doings and sins of that person unto the next. That is unfair to all those individual who are yet to come into my future.

I believe in consequences for the now, those who inflict damage, will get their dues. However, all those in my future, receives a clean slate.

This may be true. I suppose when I made the promise to myself I had yet to master my anger. I still don't have a good handle on it, and have only learned to internalize it vs manage it. With that said, I always keep my promises, since very few in my life have.


PR, I am sorry to hear that and I truly empathise with that pain.

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I can't speak for you, but I wouldn't describe it as pain. More like acceptance of what is.

I learned at a very young age that the things that go bump in the night aren't mystical creatures at all.

I've learned to accept them for what they are and exist with them, albeit at a distance in some cases vs hope they will change.
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People who have betrayed me will always remain a scar, I react in a similar way as you do, not quite the same, but similar. However, I differentiate people who have wronged me and people who I have not yet met. I do not see the two as the same experience, though I do gather the lessons learned from the former and apply it to the latter, when needed.

Until I fail yet again, but if mistakes are made, I will go about refining my sensibilities again and go out there to meet a new day. The only failure to be had is when you stop getting up to fight once again, if you keep trying, you will never fail ... or so that is how I see it.

Perhaps because I have been on the receiving end of knowing, figuring, or finding out (you see, there is betrayal even within that) I never received the whole heart of another before, more than once.

That makes me realise that, it would be unfair to love another like so. I know the pain of having to live with only part of their love.

Different life experiences shape us, to be different people and how we deal with our situations.

From what you have shared, I understand completely as to why you do what you do. @PhoenixRising, I would never doubt your experiences as any less, merely different means of coping, managing, and making do with what we have. 🙂
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Also, one person may have harmed me in the past but I would not carry the wrong doings and sins of that person unto the next. That is unfair to all those individual who are yet to come into my future.

I believe in consequences for the now, those who inflict damage, will get their dues. However, all those in my future, receives a clean slate.

This may be true. I suppose when I made the promise to myself I had yet to master my anger. I still don't have a good handle on it, and have only learned to internalize it vs manage it. With that said, I always keep my promises, since very few in my life have.


PR, I am sorry to hear that and I truly empathise with that pain.



I can't speak for you, but I wouldn't describe it as pain. More like acceptance of what is.

I learned at a very young age that the things that go bump in the night aren't mystical creatures at all.

I've learned to accept them for what they are and exist with them, albeit at a distance in some cases vs hope they will change.

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Well PR, then I am glad to hear it is not pain, rather that it is acceptance.

For most, there would be pain within those past disappointments, alongside the acceptance. Even when, future choices, have been accordingly adjusted for.
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I've never met a romantic partner that can see that in me. And this has only been a recent realization for me, past month maybe. But really taking that in has made it all the more difficult to connect long term.

But I have found it with friends. The Pisces Sun/Libra Moon. And Capricorn/Gemini. They always fucking know. Yet they're still tender with my fragile heart and call me on it extremely sparingly and with incredible gentleness.

For me it's a Fish with a Gem moon.

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I don't know about you. But at my core I still want it all. Just afraid to want it enough to believe it's real.
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Well, this. Exactly.

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Ever meet someone where every time you're with them you feel like you need to take three days alone afterwards just to process? Lol.


Pretty much every one tbh
Really?! This isn't my first time dealing with it. But it's my first time dealing with it in a healthy way. Or at least trying to. I always know pretty immediately what I think and feel with someone.

Is it your sun square moon you think? Or the aqua mars?
It's like that with people I already know also.

People in general just drain a lot out of me.
Introvert life man.

I'm the opposite usually. If I go three days without any social contact I'm probably depressed af by the end. People energize me, get me out of my head and I feel I connect better with myself through connecting with others.
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Haha saw this after. I think I'm too aware of everything that it gets draining. Gift and a curse
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I've been reading horoscopes and watching YouTube videos on scorps for the year and they are all so different.

I know all scorps must be going through their own stuff, but I think 2016 was mostly ruled by my Taurus moon, meaning I realized in November(!) That I had basically "wasted" all year carrying a load of emotional baggage of a past *guy* from 2015, where things didn't work out. This was all unconscious as I thought I was over it. I had even dated a little early 2016 and it was fun for a while, but I got bored of it and then became so unhappy with my work situation that I decided to focus all of my energy on that.

Well, a little after my birthday it all hit me like a ton of bricks. I realized (after I finally found a better job placement) that this emotional situation was in fact still weighing heavily on me. Now I know, I had let go, but was still holding on to the pain. I was in a funk where, instead of being happy about my job, I was trying to get a hold of myself and my emotions.I kinda hated my Taurus moon for it for the past 2 months, but now I realize I HAD to carry this weight in order to finally purge this situation as well as all of my romantic situations that went wrong. So really, i think it was necessary. It makes me wonder, if I was still in that same old job I hated, would I have noticed my unhappiness in my romantic life.

I had to take a DEEP look into the patterns of my past love life, and take responsibility for my part. What bothers me is that I now have ill feelings toward this last guy, and I know it's not healthy, but heck I'm a Scorpio. I'd love to say I'm moving on with no regret, but I guess I am still learning how to "forgive and forget".

All in all, I can finally say (for real this time ha!) that I think I "get" it. I'm ready for a mature relationship. Not some crap where there is a huge *spark* as soon as I meet a guy, because, well, that has left me high and dry lol. I've just outgrow that.

I guess I'm just finally feeling like I'm getting out of that bad place, letting go and just being optimistic about my future love life, and just life In general. I feel I have better tools. I'll be holding myself to this and hopefully later this year won't be kicking myself in he ass! Lol.

2016 I felt stuck and in 2017 I really hope this feeling of moving forward will continue.
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Ever meet someone where every time you're with them you feel like you need to take three days alone afterwards just to process? Lol.

1 1/2 days...air moons move at an accelarated rate 🙂.

Jokes aside it's exciting and jarring. I look forward to more and also want no part of it.
😆 only wish I could keep up with you air moons. Lol.

That is so fucking true. My brain is like 'I want to see you now, all the time, every second' but also 'holy fuck I can't think straight go away why is it so hard to calm down.'
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Posted by ScorpioStarGazer
I'm not sure what has gotten into me. When I was in my twenties I was excited to go on dates, looked forward to them and did not hesitate. Now I'm more hesitant. I've come to expect the dates to not go anywhere, end the same way and just not work out. On the other hand I fear what if I meet that one who does work out and I fall hard and get too attached only to get hurt or for it all to fall apart? Now I feel it's too risky to put my heart on the line like that. I had 2 potential dates this weekend with an Aries and a Cancer. All we had to do were sort out the details, but I flaked on both of them. Just completely stopped talking to them out of the blue. This is so unlike me. I just had this overwhelming feeling to spend my weekend alone. I'm really embracing being an introvert lately and not sure why. I wouldn't mind keeping in touch with one of the guys and possibly going on a date at some point when I'm ready, but it would just be awkward if I reached out to him at this point after not talking to him for days. Wth would I say anyway? "Hey, sorry I flaked on you. I just got scared." Besides, I can't expect guys to just wait around for me to be ready to go on a date. That's just plain silly.
I hear you on the dating. In the 20's it was fun. From mid 20 I was at my peak. Meeting guys was exciting and fun.

Nowadays, I think we just learn to want more from dating, and a relationship. Being disappointed so much after dating and wanting to meet someone of substance can make you fearful. That, and sometimes you just need some time to yourself.

I would still message those guys. These days with dating, people seem to be pretty forgiving. I would also check in on how you really feel, like do you really want to go on a date with one of them? I gave up on the online dating. Honestly don't think I would do it again. Its the easiest way to meet a guy, but its also so fickle and tiresome.
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I started dating at 14 and didn't experience a huge gap between boyfriends until I was in my early-mid 20s. That was a lot of time spent being with others vs being with myself and really knowing what I wanted and needed. Figuring out who I was. That gap was a conscious effort. After that I was bound to only choose someone that would be worthwhile. Fit me vs changing, bending and twisting to fit others, which was what I was doing. Odd for a fixed sign, but astrology doesn't account for everything I suppose.

So I searched out the best sex toy---(toys, who am I kidding 😄) I could find and waited that dry spell out until I was satisfied with who was standing infront of me attempting to offer me the world. Hit a few speed bumps along the way, but I kept it moving.

The gap changes things.
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Posted by PeanutButterandElly
I feel way more at ease now though. I don't ever spend the same energy analyzing for the sake of anxiety. If I analyze its moreso to see how I feel, what I want to do and what fits best with me.

And I don't think too many of the people I've dated very recently are used to it. I think people are either distant and chill or kind and clingy, because I've been told how confusing I am for being both ha.

That was my experience as well. Still is at times.

It confuses and scares, but intrigues them. The punks that can't hang eventually fall to the wayside.

It's like natural dating selection lol

#TheseBootsWereMadeforWalking

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Posted by ScorpioStarGazer
...I wouldn't mind keeping in touch with one of the guys and possibly going on a date at some point when I'm ready, but it would just be awkward if I reached out to him at this point after not talking to him for days. Wth would I say anyway? "Hey, sorry I flaked on you. I just got scared." Besides, I can't expect guys to just wait around for me to be ready to go on a date. That's just plain silly.

Why do you need to offer fear as an explaination or one at all? Why not simply call them up, apologize for not getting back to them sooner to finalize plans, but you'd really like to get together, and see if they're willing to move forward and go out. Or if you're not ready, let him know you like his energy and would like to stay in touch if he's cool with that. I think as Scorps we often use the rule "treat others how I want to be treated" to a fault. Sure an explanation would be nice---because we expect it from others. We tend to personalize flakiness as if it's a personal affront. However, these guys are not Scorps and may not be as easily bothered by slight flakiness. My ex Gem taught me that. I'd be so preoccupied with how my moodiness would affect him when we first started dating because I used myself as the guide. He was like "Meh. I barely noticed. You want to have some fun now? Cool let's go". As we got closer, yeah it had to shift because he was more invested, but that was down the line. Not prior to the first date.

You call and the worst that can happen is they don't reply or have an emotional meltdown (true story) because you flaked. If that's the case, take note and you do better next time with the next guy.



Unless they ask for an explanation, it probably isn't required at this stage of your courtship.
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I feel way more at ease now though. I don't ever spend the same energy analyzing for the sake of anxiety. If I analyze its moreso to see how I feel, what I want to do and what fits best with me.

And I don't think too many of the people I've dated very recently are used to it. I think people are either distant and chill or kind and clingy, because I've been told how confusing I am for being both ha.

That was my experience as well. Still is at times.

It confuses and scares, but intrigues them. The punks that can't hang eventually fall to the wayside.

It's like natural dating selection lol

#TheseBootsWereMadeforWalking


The funny part is most men think I need a 'macho man', full of dominance and aggression to break and conquer me. Those types bore me easily though and they fade away or I create drama and slip into playing games to sabotage it and make them go away lol. I aim for slow fades these days. Trying to live clear, simple and practical ways only.

Without fail the personality types that instantly make me want to give in are the soft, sweet and reserved types. Probably why men who knew me through work or school were always so surprised when they'd meet my ex the first time.

I can't even play power games anymore. I just lose any interest in communicating when they start to pop up lol.
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I can relate to that. Power play and testing. I recall once I was having dinner with a Fish and he said he likes to test just because it's fun. I'm quite expressive facially so I did not hide I was turned off. He asked what was wrong and I just said "I'm no longer interested"...."Wow. Just like that? I think you're looking at it negatively. I'm sure you have you're own way of testing too"...."Yup just like that. I'm not a lab rat and actually I don't".

Luckily we hadn't ordered our food yet.
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The Staredown

Him: *sits across from Scorp, stares*

Scorp: *is he trying to do me?* What are you staring at?

Him: I'm just taking you in.

Scorp: *deep sigh* It's unnerving. Stop.

Him: You're not shy.

Scorp: I can be.

Him: Lies.

Scorp: 😄. I use to be shy.

Him: 🙂 Better.

Scorp: *eye roll...stares back*

Him: Do you think you can out stare me?

Scorp: *Mufasa voice* Is that a challenge?!

Him: You're crazy.

Scorp: 😄

Him: Yes.

Scorp: Alright pretty boy. Let's do dis! *slaps table*

Him: *shakes head 🙂* Okay, let's make it interesting. Small wager. The first one to blink loses.

Scorp: You do realize eyes blink right? Actually they are required to do so. That's not a reflection of backing down. It's eye ball preservation.

Him: Eye ball what?

Scorp: 🙂. What's the wager?

Him: If you lose I get what I want.

Scorp: Which is what exactly?

Him: You'll find out.

Scorp: Naw. I don't make bets without knowing what I'm betting on.

Him: Live a little _______. Bet or not?

Scorp: No.

Him: Take a chance.

Scorp: *Mars activated* Okay *f*ck I CAN NOT lose*

Him/Scorp: *stare....*

Scorp: *Jesus Christ this burns. Is he a robot? What the f*ck?! I can not lose. What does he want to do if he wins? NO! He can not win*

Him: *eye lid flutters*

Scorp: *brush off shoulders* 😄

Him: *rubs eyes* Man...

Scorp: *rub eyes* Jesus...

Him: You would have let your eye balls pop out of your head before letting me have that much control over you huh?

Scorp: 🙂. That much control must be earned.

Him: Or taken 🙂.

Scorp: *heart flutters....yes please* Hmph. Whatever.



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Even if you don't see a huge shift in 2017. This:

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I guess I'm just finally feeling like I'm getting out of that bad place, letting go and just being optimistic about my future love life, and just life In general.



is a great place to finally be.

Wishing you good things for 2017 🙂
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Great place, indeed. I was afraid I had lost my "young at heart"-ness for good.

Thank you, wishing you the same!! 😄
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I feel way more at ease now though. I don't ever spend the same energy analyzing for the sake of anxiety. If I analyze its moreso to see how I feel, what I want to do and what fits best with me.

And I don't think too many of the people I've dated very recently are used to it. I think people are either distant and chill or kind and clingy, because I've been told how confusing I am for being both ha.

That was my experience as well. Still is at times.

It confuses and scares, but intrigues them. The punks that can't hang eventually fall to the wayside.

It's like natural dating selection lol

#TheseBootsWereMadeforWalking


The funny part is most men think I need a 'macho man', full of dominance and aggression to break and conquer me. Those types bore me easily though and they fade away or I create drama and slip into playing games to sabotage it and make them go away lol. I aim for slow fades these days. Trying to live clear, simple and practical ways only.

Without fail the personality types that instantly make me want to give in are the soft, sweet and reserved types. Probably why men who knew me through work or school were always so surprised when they'd meet my ex the first time.

I can't even play power games anymore. I just lose any interest in communicating when they start to pop up lol.

I can relate to that. Power play and testing. I recall once I was having dinner with a Fish and he said he likes to test just because it's fun. I'm quite expressive facially so I did not hide I was turned off. He asked what was wrong and I just said "I'm no longer interested"...."Wow. Just like that? I think you're looking at it negatively. I'm sure you have you're own way of testing too"...."Yup just like that. I'm not a lab rat and actually I don't".

Luckily we hadn't ordered our food yet.

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*applause*

I called an Aqua sun, Scorp moon "evil" once because he did something mean to purposely get a rise out of me. I later asked him about why he did that and he said because it was "fun". People who do that stuff just irritate me.
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I feel way more at ease now though. I don't ever spend the same energy analyzing for the sake of anxiety. If I analyze its moreso to see how I feel, what I want to do and what fits best with me.

And I don't think too many of the people I've dated very recently are used to it. I think people are either distant and chill or kind and clingy, because I've been told how confusing I am for being both ha.

That was my experience as well. Still is at times.

It confuses and scares, but intrigues them. The punks that can't hang eventually fall to the wayside.

It's like natural dating selection lol

#TheseBootsWereMadeforWalking


The funny part is most men think I need a 'macho man', full of dominance and aggression to break and conquer me. Those types bore me easily though and they fade away or I create drama and slip into playing games to sabotage it and make them go away lol. I aim for slow fades these days. Trying to live clear, simple and practical ways only.

Without fail the personality types that instantly make me want to give in are the soft, sweet and reserved types. Probably why men who knew me through work or school were always so surprised when they'd meet my ex the first time.

I can't even play power games anymore. I just lose any interest in communicating when they start to pop up lol.

I can relate to that. Power play and testing. I recall once I was having dinner with a Fish and he said he likes to test just because it's fun. I'm quite expressive facially so I did not hide I was turned off. He asked what was wrong and I just said "I'm no longer interested"...."Wow. Just like that? I think you're looking at it negatively. I'm sure you have you're own way of testing too"...."Yup just like that. I'm not a lab rat and actually I don't".

Luckily we hadn't ordered our food yet.


*applause*

I called an Aqua sun, Scorp moon "evil" once because he did something mean to purposely get a rise out of me. I later asked him about why he did that and he said because it was "fun". People who do that stuff just irritate me.
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Yeah I see that type of behaviour getting old really fast, you're too grown to educate on the uselessness of playing games to get a rise out of people, so I might as well just cut my loses before wasting anymore time.

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Over the course of the last two years, I have finally found myself. I am not going to lie and say I wasn't terrified. I questioned my self worth, my abilities, and everything about me. I worried about failing all the time.

I spent 13 years with someone I thought would be the man I grew old with, and moving away from that was scary. We spent the last few years of our marriage being together for the sake of our son. But our animosities grew and grew. His for the mistakes I did when we first began dating, and mine for the co-worker I found out about Christmas Eve 10 years into our relationship. Him blaming my mistakes in year 1, for why he made his mistakes in year 10. It got so bad that he began calling me names in front of our son. That was when we sat down, and knew it was over. Because both of us hated whom we had become. Hated how we treated one another. I had time to self reflect, and that is when I knew I had been unfair to him our whole relationship. In ways, I was unable to love him fully and in a way that he deserved. He had loved me wholeheartedly, and unconditionally for years. However, because of my past relationship right before him, I had made him the rebound. I had always held a part of myself back from him. And for that, I apologized.

We are now best friends, and all those terrible ways we treated each other are past us. We have grown to the point that we celebrate holidays with our son, as a family still. And he will forever be family to me. Because we both love our son, and have worked to be better people.

So moving forward, this is the first time in my life, I have ever lived on my own. And it was so weird for me to adjust to. But I can say without a doubt, that I finally, for once in my life, feel like I am coming into my own. And my life is turning out just the way it should be.
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Posted by PeanutButterandElly
I'm caring. Like really caring. Too caring.

Whenever I have to make a decision I sit and analyze how my decision might possibly effect any and everyone else and I think through those ramifications before deciding what to do.

And I sit and think about passing acquaintances or friends or dates that I've had and I'll think fondly of them and actually wonder and care about what they're up to. I buy friends and coworkers little surprise gifts or handmade items when I think of them, just because I thought of them. I like to buy or bake treats for work on holidays. (Or days after holidays for hangovers.) I just really like to love and take care of people.

In a relationship this desire goes into overdrive. All I want is to worship the object of my affection. Shower them in devotion, gifts, surprise presents or trips, do anything possible to inject a little magic or romance into their life. I want to create the life they were too scared to dream of and make it a reality. I want to spend hours talking with them and learning about them so I can better care for them. I want to look at them and have them felt seen, understood and loved.

And it terrifies me how happy and fulfilled that makes me feel because it's always put me at high risk of being hurt. Either my desire presents itself as an opportunity for abusers and/or users or the incompatible say I'm desperate or too nice. Ex Scorp was neither. Probably one of many reasons why it was so difficult to actually end that relationship.

It terrifies me though how much of this I am at my core. And it messes with me constantly because I volley between feeling I have to unlearn what makes me happy or fiercely defend my right to be me.

No point. Just verbal vomit as I try to settle this inner debate once and for all this week.
You shouldn't stop doing that if it makes you happy, but maybe you should focus more of that energy on you. That, and possibly set boundaries if you feel they are necessary to avoid feeling hurt by others. I'm learning this too.

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Posted by PeanutButterandElly
I was dating three people. It's my goal by the end of the week to be dating none lol.

I thought casual relationships would afford me the freedom to work my shit out and still enjoy the company of others. But this isn't really helping my commitment phobia or helping eliminate my issues. I can't deny my moon and venus just because my mars and rising want to have fun.

Make decisions that give me simple, clear and practical results, that's what I said I wanted for my life a few months ago. My thoughts are neither clear nor simple with anyone, let alone practically benefiting my life, so it only makes sense to eliminate what is causing complications. They're only mental complications, but it's best to eliminate them before they become worse.

It's a shame because there was one in particular I was so smitten with. Someone who I so much wanted to get to know and learn about and be around a lot. It'll be a bummer to miss out on that, as the guy was fairly upfront about not being able to offer more than casual currently, and I didn't expect I'd change my mind so I said hell yes me too lol.

Overall I'm much happier about it now though. Already ended things with one, two more to go. Sucks to miss out on some potential, but I gotta make the life I want instead of just letting it happen to me. Tbh 'going with the flow' this past couple of years has resulted in me making HORRIBLE decisions and being really happy in the immediate and extremely dissatisfied in the long run. Lol.

I don't need the flow. I need to think and feel and choose.
I got the urge to date last year, and I told myself it was in hopes of meeting someone. I was clearly fooling myself due to those guys I met.

It was fun, though. Then it just got old and lame.

Honestly I think that time of dating around is necessary to find these things out about yourself. I got that out of my system, for good!