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Oddly dxp folks (with the exception of Crabs) tend to be more chill than the folks I have to deal with irl.
I was just going to say that I remember us going back and forth on topics and managing a nice debate and I have a shiton cardinal energy in my chart lol.




Your Virgo Sun will always trump your Ram moon and Crab venus (apparently since you don't irk me). Just like I adore Elle, Elly and Seraph despite their annoying cardinal bits.


😉 cheers, PR.

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How lovely to see you around these parts, seraph.

I thought you had left the place. Hope you are doing well. 🙂

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When I have bad ptsd days like today where episodes keep hitting me in waves over and over I think about what it’d be like if I ever did commit to a relationship and how eventually I won’t be able to hide it anymore. Then I feel overwhelmed and that the idea of a relationship is wholely impossible and detrimental to my ability to be stable. 😐

On the plus side, the roommate thinks that I’ve just had to run many ‘small errands’ today periodically. Yep. Totally not so I can sit in my car and freak till an attack passes, fix my makeup and go home.

Today sucks. *kicks rocks*

Hide what? The attacks?
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Scorp: *laying on couch*

He: *sits down lift up Scorp's legs and place them on lap...runs fingers on the bottom of feet*

Scorp: *lies* I'm not ticklish. You might as well stop.

He: You're not?

Scorp: Nope. *dying inside trying hard not to giggle*

He: Hmmm *quickly begins to tickle waist*

Scorp: No don't, not th----*farts* OMG I'm so sorry! *....mortified*

He: 😆 😆 😆

Scorp: I'm sorry...

He: 😆 It's okay. Things happen....

Scorp: *embarrassed, tries to watch tv*

*later that night goes to bed*

Scorp: *dreams of being chased down a corridor and every time the person chasing me grabs my arm I fart*........😐

I can't.
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When I have bad ptsd days like today where episodes keep hitting me in waves over and over I think about what it’d be like if I ever did commit to a relationship and how eventually I won’t be able to hide it anymore. Then I feel overwhelmed and that the idea of a relationship is wholely impossible and detrimental to my ability to be stable. 😐

On the plus side, the roommate thinks that I’ve just had to run many ‘small errands’ today periodically. Yep. Totally not so I can sit in my car and freak till an attack passes, fix my makeup and go home.

Today sucks. *kicks rocks*

Hide what? The attacks?


Yeah. I’ve had an attack before around someone I was dating. It did not go well. Anytime I’ve confided in someone about it, the result has been bad for me 100% of the time.

And to be honest the entirety of it. The trust issues, irrational fear and the belief I have that I need to isolate myself in order to protect the other person from me. I mean I never even told the ex Scorp about it at all until after we broke up the final time.

Roommate knows about it and that I time to time have attacks. My skin still crawls at the idea of her witnessing them though.

Only the cap Best has ever been present for one and it be ok. Even my longest best friend the Pisces saw one and freaked out on me. Which is why we stopped being friends for a few years.

Any sort of intimacy is still hard for me to maintain whenever it comes up.
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I guess I was curious because when you wrote "I think about what it’d be like if I ever did commit to a relationship and how eventually I won’t be able to hide it anymore." I was thinking well wouldn't it be a given that this would be a person you would share this with. I mean....if it's someone you've chosen to be a part of your life, you made this choice because the person has demonstrated they can be trusted with all parts of you. Someone to be vulnerable with, otherwise...you're just "dating". However, I wasn't aware how much you guard this part of yourself (e.g. ex Scorp not being aware). I'm also not aware of the reasons you choose to commit to someone. I personally have not always chosen my partners/ex lover as much as they chose me and I simply went along for the ride. This would speak to why I haven't allowed myself to be fully known to any of these men. Everyone knowing just a little bit different piece of my history, none of them know the same thing.

It's funny how much Scorps allow an incident/response influence their future behaviour. I'm not referring to your trauma as I would never try to reduce this to a simple "incident". I mean your ex Fish friend's reaction. I'm sure you were already very self conscious of how your attacks impact you and she just reinforced whatever negative thoughts you have attached to that. Try to push past that fear that people can't handle it. Sure some won't be able to, but that's not a reflection of you.
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So there is this neighborhood cat where I live. I’ve lived here for three years now and I’m still not quite sure who the cat belongs to. I know it belongs to someone because he/she looks very well taken care of...well fed etc. Very pretty fluffy cat. This morning my package I was expecting had arrived....was sitting on my front porch. I go out there to grab it and the cat practically comes pouncing at me outta nowhere. You woulda thought I was taking his/her package or something. The other day the cat tries to get in my car when I was leaving. This cat is very friendly or so you think. It will come up to you all purring and rubbing on your leg....basically begging for you to pet it. So you pet it and everything is good for the first ten seconds or so and then hen BAM!!! The cat starts hissing and swats at you with its paw. I’ve been hit in the face and bitten on the hand before by this cat. Now I’m a big cat person....I’ve had cats over the years, but this cat scares the shit outta me! It’s moody as hell! I’m convinced it’s a Cancer.

I even call the cat Cujo because it reminds me of that damn dog on the movie.

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When I have bad ptsd days like today where episodes keep hitting me in waves over and over I think about what it’d be like if I ever did commit to a relationship and how eventually I won’t be able to hide it anymore. Then I feel overwhelmed and that the idea of a relationship is wholely impossible and detrimental to my ability to be stable. 😐

On the plus side, the roommate thinks that I’ve just had to run many ‘small errands’ today periodically. Yep. Totally not so I can sit in my car and freak till an attack passes, fix my makeup and go home.

Today sucks. *kicks rocks*
One thing I have learned to accept is, this struggle will not end. So I might as well accept it for what it is, and learn to cope with it. To see it as a scar of life, though not a physical one, but a mental and emotional one.

It used to be embarrassing, or at least shameful, when others had to witness my attacks. Over the years, I have learned, to accept it. If those around me cannot accept this, as it is a part of who I am, then they could easily leave. That is one of the best ways for me, to have weeded out those who were worthwhile, as apart of my life's journey. You grow tired of suppressing yourself on behalf of others, it kills you, slowly. Other people could handle themselves. What I am responsible for, is the handling of myself when I am fighting for balance.

The longer you hide it, the conflict inside only builds. It is apart of you, so let it be. When you fight it less, you will find it surprisingly less chaotic.

I say the above, not to commend letting lose anywhere and everywhere without actively learning to cope, and work through the PTSD and / or anxiety. What I am saying is, self acceptance and choosing specifically who you surround yourself with, would alleviate those concerns of yours.

If I am in a relationship with someone, and I would have to hide this side of myself away from them. It would be a cruel torture, self inflicting. It is who I am, and I am certain whoever I am with will have his or her struggles as well. If they cannot see who I truly am, in all its ugliness, then why are we even together.

That is my $ 0.02 on the matter, Elly.
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I guess I was curious because when you wrote "I think about what it’d be like if I ever did commit to a relationship and how eventually I won’t be able to hide it anymore." I was thinking well wouldn't it be a given that this would be a person you would share this with. I mean....if it's someone you've chosen to be a part of your life, you made this choice because the person has demonstrated they can be trusted with all parts of you. Someone to be vulnerable with, otherwise...you're just "dating". However, I wasn't aware how much you guard this part of yourself (e.g. ex Scorp not being aware). I'm also not aware of the reasons you choose to commit to someone. I personally have not always chosen my partners/ex lover as much as they chose me and I simply went along for the ride. This would speak to why I haven't allowed myself to be fully known to any of these men. Everyone knowing just a little bit different piece of my history, none of them know the same thing.

It's funny how much Scorps allow an incident/response influence their future behaviour. I'm not referring to your trauma as I would never try to reduce this to a simple "incident". I mean your ex Fish friend's reaction. I'm sure you were already very self conscious of how your attacks impact you and she just reinforced whatever negative thoughts you have attached to that. Try to push past that fear that people can't handle it. Sure some won't be able to, but that's not a reflection of you.


🙂 thank you.

The fish and I are great friends again. But only because she came back and apologized. She experienced someone else close to her going through a similar trauma and she faced it in a completely different way. She understood in a way she couldn’t before. She actually missed the first few years of my relationship with the Scorp because that was when we weren’t talking.

And I loved the shit outta the Scorp. But I stuck to that relationship in large part for stability. I came close to bringing it up countless times. But he always saw me as so whole and perfect and I felt so secure for the first in my life, bringing that out felt like I’d jeapordize that. Plus I was still on medication for the first year we were together and once I felt in a good place to be off it finally I thought talking would set me back. All the trauma unfolded after the break up though and I totally fell hard into a relapse or regression, whatever you’d call it.

‘Try to push past that fear that people can't handle it. Sure some won't be able to, but that's not a reflection of you. ‘

And again. Thank you. I know this too. Mainly the cap has taught me. I’ve said time and again similar to the first post that I can’t fathom how I can have a relationship. Though admittedly with way way waaaaaay more mellowdrama and depression lol. She always tells me the same thing though. I don’t think i ever started to believe her until she was there multiple times to handle something so intense and difficult.

The crab also helped too. He knew. Never saw me have an episode, but I’d stop by after a bad therapy session or fresh off an attack and he’d always nurture me, I’d never had that before from a man. Never turned me away, would just walk me inside and put me to bed next to his dog when I was too freaked to talk. He sister who he is very close with is a counselor for childhood trauma as well so I always wondered if that played into it. I suppose I will never know. Though sometimes it’s as harmful as it is helpful, to experience someone being there then gone almost makes it worse some days when I really overthink.

Now saying it moreso comes from a place of being logical and feeling somewhat stable on my own. Relationships almost feel like a threat to the progress I’ve worked so hard to acquire.

A third time, thank you. 🤗
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As usual PR, has great words of advice.

However, your last statement resounds with my own recent thoughts as well.

When I have learned to achieve, stability and balance on my own. I almost feel relationships, threaten my hard earned self efficiency and reliability. It makes it difficult for me to want to turn to people, or to accept help graciously. When people do unknowingly help me, I feel a bit lost. Inside, genuinely feeling thankful and touched but externally, my expression is stunted.

On the reverse of that, helping others, to be giving in that manner comes naturally to me. Merely, the accepting it from others, that I struggle with. Especially, if the other does it without asking for anything in return. They simply care. It both makes me feel all sorts of pleasant feelings inside whilst leaving me with a desire to run, to god knows where.

It ends up baffling those around me. 😐
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Scorp: *laying on couch*

He: *sits down lift up Scorp's legs and place them on lap...runs fingers on the bottom of feet*

Scorp: *lies* I'm not ticklish. You might as well stop.

He: You're not?

Scorp: Nope. *dying inside trying hard not to giggle*

He: Hmmm *quickly begins to tickle waist*

Scorp: No don't, not th----*farts* OMG I'm so sorry! *....mortified*

He: 😆 😆 😆

Scorp: I'm sorry...

He: 😆 It's okay. Things happen....

Scorp: *embarrassed, tries to watch tv*

*later that night goes to bed*

Scorp: *dreams of being chased down a corridor and every time the person chasing me grabs my arm I fart*........😐

I can't.
Hah PR, I genuinely laughed a bit too hard when I read this. 😆
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I semiforced the roomie to watch a Christmas movie with me.

Taurus Roomie(with expressive leo moon): I WANNA WATCH A CHRISTMAS MOVIE! Why do they all suck on Netflix?!

Elly: hmmm. I have hbo go. Maybe there are some good ones there. *checks and rattled off list*

Taurus: .... *silence*

Elly: Amazon prime might have some. You can rent movie for like four or five dollars.

Taurus: Seems like a rip off. *scrolls through amazon and pouts* Guess I’ll just watch Stranger Things. *sighs*

Elly: Huh.

I walk back to my room, rent my favorite, Miracle on 34th Street. Turn the volume all the way up. About five minutes in I hear something.

Taurus: hey. Elly. Hey. *yells through walls* HEY. WHAT ARE YOU WATCHING—

Elly: *smiles to self and pauses*

Taurus: ELLYY. WHAT ARE YOU WATCHING?

Elly: *walks into Taur’s room* Oh? My favorite. Miracle on 34th Street, it happens to be playing at Elly Cinemas, next room over from yours. Free of charge. I hear someone else was duped into paying the ripoff. *smiles* and there are cinnamon rolls too.

Taurus: *laughs* Well. Maybe. *pouts and goes back to playing Stranger Things*

Elly: *plays movie. Texts Roomie a picture of the screen* Caption: Christmas magic happening over here! 🎄

Taurus: *laughs loudly through walls*

Elly: *Pauses movie and waits a few minutes.*

Taurus: *appears in doorway with blanket, coffee mug and a pillow* So. I was disappointed and not feeling Christmas. And I heard your movie. And. I guess. I’ll watch it with you.

Elly: *smiles and rewinds to beginning*

Taurus: OH MY GOD I LOVE OLD MOVIES I LOVE THE OLD BLACK AND WHITE SEQUENCES!!!

It was a Christmas Miracle. 😄 😛
Elly, I love this story. 😄

Merry Christmas to you, wishing you a wonderful time filled with lots of joy, love, and kindness!
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I was hoping to have you out of my system by now.....*sigh*





*off to make Christmas dinner* Maybe pounding some dough will help.
Also love the new avi.

Roomie to me, literally this morning as she watched me put on thigh high socks to just wear around the house.

‘We should get Mila some knee highs’

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‘Once a Scorpio understands the power that deep, open connection brings them, you guys are so power oriented, you come to a place in your life where you pull power and dominance from your relationships. They’re not a source of weakness, they’re not a source of indecision. They become the source of your greatest strength.’

Urgh.

Hmph.

I'm not sure if its related to how I've been feeling as of late, but it does speak to one of the reasons I had such difficulty moving on after things ended with my ex Gem years ago.

Initially I struggles and mainly because I could never quite articulate what I was experiencing in its truest sense. Most likely this was due to a lack of understanding. After much deep reflection I have a better sense of what it is now. Basically, I knew it was over and did not desire him the person, but that connection. That....feeling of strength the relationship brought me because it made me feel like I was in a good place as a whole person. He didn't make me whole, he just made me more aware that I already was. In a simple word it was "acceptance". As I was. Flaws were not seen as a weakness, but a sum of my many parts. Just as light is no better than dark, as its existence occurs because of dark. All relationships after were measured by that experience.

To avoid rambling I will end it there.
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So I was just listening to my two Pisces coworkers conversation.....the younger Pisces and the older Pisces.

Young Pisces: I wouldn’t want to live to be a hundred....I don’t think I’d even want to live to be in my nineties.

Older Pisces: Not even if you’re healthy and spry? I wouldn’t mind living to a ripe old age as long as I felt good.

Young Pisces: Well I have a heart condition so I doubt I’ll even make it to forty.

Older Pisces: Well aren’t you miss morbid!? What’s wrong with your heart?

Young Pisces: I had to have heart surgery when I was sixteen. I take meds for it. (Then goes into detail regarding the issues with her heart.)

Older Pisces: See you’re all good then!

Young Pisces: Not really...

Older Pisces: Can you have children?

Young Pisces: Oh yeah I can have children....well at least I think I can have children...haha. I definitely want children!

Older Pisces: So you’re willing to have children even though you’re going to die young and leave them—

Young Pisces: Yeah....I already have their names picked out and everything. (Blurts out three names).

Older Pisces: So you are having three kids?

Young Pisces: Nope, four

Older Pisces: Well what’s the fourth ones name?

Young Pisces: I don’t know yet....I haven’t gotten that far. haha

Older Pisces: Yo Scorp! What’s wrong?....why are you being so quiet over there—

Me: Huh?...(takes me a second to realize I’m being spoken to as I glance over noticing both are staring at me)....oh...uh...nothing! I’m just enjoying the conversation... 😁

Sometimes I could listen to these two talk all day. Funny how different the personalities between them...one a negative nelly and the other always looking on the bright side. Lol



Interesting. I read this as one Fish talking to herself to be honest. Sort of like a "dear younger version of myself" type convo.
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See this is why I love sharing in the asylum. A safe place to get multiple takes!

It’s funny you locked into the strength of connection. Upon first hearing it for me, I locked into my tendency to do the opposite lol. Even my closest friends for years still inquire why I sometimes shut them out or wait weeks/months to share something important in my life....

Hmmm, I don't know if I would say that exactly. I mean I have, but it isn't generalized to all of my relationships. Simply romantic ones. If you recall I am very much a compartmentalizer. I only seek and explore that type of connection with my lovers/partners. Similar to you, I don't share things with my friends and do the opposite of "locking in" as well. I mean just the other day I was complaining about my blog being down and my Fish friend asked "what blog?". I explained it was something I've been doing for 3 years now. I bought a new place and moved and didn't tell some of my friends for months and only because one offered to pick me up on the way to the restaurant when we planned to meet up lol. I tend to share info like I'm sharing what I had to eat that morning:

Friend: How was your week?

Scorp: Meh....It was long and being stuck in traffic today didn't help. It took me an hour and a half to get home.

Friend: Wow, why so long?

Scorp: Ah the 401 was congested because people want to gawk at an accident

Friend: Wait. What? Why are you taking the 401?

Scorp: Yeah, I bought a house in __________

Friend: What?! When?!

Scorp: A while ago. August.

Friend: It's November.

Scorp: Speaking of, so are we going away to the cottage before it gets too cold? *can feel friend's internal eye roll*

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To be honest I’m just now noticing how deep andnpersustent of a bad habit it is. I almost always interpret close bonds as my weak point and that the more I invest in them, the less able I am to maintain both the relationship and my sense of strength. It’s so backwards though now that I’m writinng it out. It has just been such a deeply internalized ideal I never bothered to put it into words.

Honestly, I'm not sure what connection I've made between relationships and a sense of strength prior to this exchange.

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I too have been mulling over similar sentiments as of late. Except, for a change, I decided to make a change, to let my guard down and tear down those walls. As much as we could interpret that as a sign of weakness, as I did, I was stunned at the amount of love being reciprocated back to me. It was only then did I realise, all these safe guards, are simply a silly notion that we would experience pain simply by being ourselves, by being vulnerable, or by being good. What we failed to realise is, connecting with others, is never a one sided affair.

Of course, for as many good apples, there are bad ones. However, to realise that throwing oneself out there, with a bit more abandon only to be given so much back. It broke down all the constructs I had been building the last few years, and it never felt more liberating. Many people had been hurt by me, because vulnerability, intimacy, were things that took a long time for me to reach or achieve with others. If I went by my instinct, I would have ran the other way, and disappeared. Which, guilty as charged, I do. Intimacy, felt like a pressure cooker to me, it felt like the other demanded of me. That was until, I chose to see it differently.

Therefore, this holiday season, to reach out, and to realise so many were still there, unshaken, ready to take me back as I am. That very feeling, is irreplaceable. There is strength, in connecting with others. We are human beings after all, creatures that crave connection. Strange, how a simple change in perspectives have given me much relief. To be vulnerable in this way, it allows me accountability of my own emotions. If gives me more headspace, as I am thinking far less of what others are thinking or feeling. The best way to put it is, I put myself out there as I am, with no expectations. You would be stunned, to realise, when you only think of you, your own thoughts, your own emotions, people are drawn to that. You ask of them nothing, you only give, and in return they want to approach you too.

In regards to love, yes, like the both of you, it is such a difficult and arduous thing to reach a point where you realise you have love, dear love for someone but no longer love them. The pain, of knowing, that safeguard net of acceptance will be gone, the very thing that caused you to grow. Yet, on the other end of this spectrum, you realise with that growth, you are now more than able to face the challenges of the world alone. You are more whole, a bigger whole, than when it all began. At least, that is how I view it now.

It is a sad thing though, to realise, when something is over. No amount of experiences shared, no amounts of care, could bring that feeling back. Sometimes, it was not to the fault of either people, it simply was time to move on. Relationships, is a point of contention for me, where I have to grow in them. If there is no growth, it begins to feel like a burden, that I am a burden to them, and them, me. That beautiful connection is lost, as we have reached the limits of what we could give each other. Though, it does not stop my belief that two people could be together till death do us part and still grow. Certain individuals, were merely pitstops, and not the journey. They do not matter more or less, in our life story. They just are, existing as a chapter to remember. A chapter to be grateful for, for all the lessons learned, to be appreciated for what it is, for the time that it lasted.
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See this is why I love sharing in the asylum. A safe place to get multiple takes!

It’s funny you locked into the strength of connection. Upon first hearing it for me, I locked into my tendency to do the opposite lol. Even my closest friends for years still inquire why I sometimes shut them out or wait weeks/months to share something important in my life....

Hmmm, I don't know if I would say that exactly. I mean I have, but it isn't generalized to all of my relationships. Simply romantic ones. If you recall I am very much a compartmentalizer. I only seek and explore that type of connection with my lovers/partners. Similar to you, I don't share things with my friends and do the opposite of "locking in" as well. I mean just the other day I was complaining about my blog being down and my Fish friend asked "what blog?". I explained it was something I've been doing for 3 years now. I bought a new place and moved and didn't tell some of my friends for months and only because one offered to pick me up on the way to the restaurant when we planned to meet up lol. I tend to share info like I'm sharing what I had to eat that morning:

Friend: How was your week?

Scorp: Meh....It was long and being stuck in traffic today didn't help. It took me an hour and a half to get home.

Friend: Wow, why so long?

Scorp: Ah the 401 was congested because people want to gawk at an accident

Friend: Wait. What? Why are you taking the 401?

Scorp: Yeah, I bought a house in __________

Friend: What?! When?!

Scorp: A while ago. August.

Friend: It's November.

Scorp: Speaking of, so are we going away to the cottage before it gets too cold? *can feel friend's internal eye roll*

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I too PR, am a compartmentalizer. Everyone has their purpose and 'box' in my life, at times it does not mean one person is more important than the other because of the information they know about me. Simply, because I know what certain people, and traits they have, that benefit particular aspects of who I am. Why would I bring up irrelevant details of myself to everyone, when I know one does not fit all. Unfortunately, in the past, people have mistaken this as secrecy but hardly. It merely means I am being efficient about using my energy and time. If I were to share all of myself on a consistent basis to everyone. It would be a drain on me, and a drain on them. To spare everyone that pain, I do what I do. It is a pity, they see it as us 'lying', when refraining certain parts of ourselves until the appropriate timing or individual to listen to, is consideration, no ?

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I meant locking into the strength part of the original statement from the video. But hadn’t had my coffee and was articulating with my wine hangover lol.

That so funny though about the house. 😆 I’m getting more and more like that the older I get. A while back the crab was like

‘you moved? you got a dog? You’re gettig another new job? 😕 why didn’t you mention it when I asked how you were?’

‘You didn’t ask why. You asked if I was good. I said yeah.’

‘😐’

The only friend that gets that seamlessly is the Cap/Gem. My closer cancer, Aqua and Pisces friends I can always tell are a little perturbed. The Pisces used to start full on days long fights about it years and year ago lol. The cap gets it though. Just the other day at her place we were talking about a part of her past she divulged only in snippets and references that she purposefully seems to have forgotten a lot of. She was talking about how lately she was starting to remember, asking for my take since she knows I can relate.

Cap: I really haven’t even told you the worst of it Elly. The most of it actually.

Elly: Yeah. I know.

Cap: oh do you?

Elly: yeah. I mean I gauge that what you’ve told me is a solid 7% . But I figured if it was worth mentioning to you, you’d say something.

Cap: *laughs* Really? 7% ? That low?

Elly: Am I wrong?

Cap: *laughs* not at all.

Believe it or not, it’s that aspect that’s made her one of the ones I’ll go to first when I finally am ready to talk. To me it means she has some concept of my mindset before the words even come out.

Pretty much. It's very much "when it's relevant and you're ready you'll share", so I just go with the flow. When someone shares something the started talking about months or even years ago I just mentally pick right up where we left off and pretty much just say "Yeah, I figured as much"...."Really? Why didn't you say anything"... *shrug*

Does it really matter though? We're talking about it now. Right time/place usually produce the best conversations.
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See this is why I love sharing in the asylum. A safe place to get multiple takes!

It’s funny you locked into the strength of connection. Upon first hearing it for me, I locked into my tendency to do the opposite lol. Even my closest friends for years still inquire why I sometimes shut them out or wait weeks/months to share something important in my life....

Hmmm, I don't know if I would say that exactly. I mean I have, but it isn't generalized to all of my relationships. Simply romantic ones. If you recall I am very much a compartmentalizer. I only seek and explore that type of connection with my lovers/partners. Similar to you, I don't share things with my friends and do the opposite of "locking in" as well. I mean just the other day I was complaining about my blog being down and my Fish friend asked "what blog?". I explained it was something I've been doing for 3 years now. I bought a new place and moved and didn't tell some of my friends for months and only because one offered to pick me up on the way to the restaurant when we planned to meet up lol. I tend to share info like I'm sharing what I had to eat that morning:

Friend: How was your week?

Scorp: Meh....It was long and being stuck in traffic today didn't help. It took me an hour and a half to get home.

Friend: Wow, why so long?

Scorp: Ah the 401 was congested because people want to gawk at an accident

Friend: Wait. What? Why are you taking the 401?

Scorp: Yeah, I bought a house in __________

Friend: What?! When?!

Scorp: A while ago. August.

Friend: It's November.

Scorp: Speaking of, so are we going away to the cottage before it gets too cold? *can feel friend's internal eye roll*


I meant locking into the strength part of the original statement from the video. But hadn’t had my coffee and was articulating with my wine hangover lol.

That so funny though about the house. 😆 I’m getting more and more like that the older I get. A while back the crab was like

‘you moved? you got a dog? You’re gettig another new job? 😕 why didn’t you mention it when I asked how you were?’

‘You didn’t ask why. You asked if I was good. I said yeah.’

‘😐’

The only friend that gets that seamlessly is the Cap/Gem. My closer cancer, Aqua and Pisces friends I can always tell are a little perturbed. The Pisces used to start full on days long fights about it years and year ago lol. The cap gets it though. Just the other day at her place we were talking about a part of her past she divulged only in snippets and references that she purposefully seems to have forgotten a lot of. She was talking about how lately she was starting to remember, asking for my take since she knows I can relate.

Cap: I really haven’t even told you the worst of it Elly. The most of it actually.

Elly: Yeah. I know.

Cap: oh do you?

Elly: yeah. I mean I gauge that what you’ve told me is a solid 7% . But I figured if it was worth mentioning to you, you’d say something.

Cap: *laughs* Really? 7% ? That low?

Elly: Am I wrong?

Cap: *laughs* not at all.

Believe it or not, it’s that aspect that’s made her one of the ones I’ll go to first when I finally am ready to talk. To me it means she has some concept of my mindset before the words even come out.
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Yes Elly, sometimes when I am struggling with something and I have yet to come to terms with my emotions. Then to have someone around me, realise my mood or mental / emotions state, for them to pick up on it, then to question it. Most of the time, I would tell them the truth, but only a snippet of it. Not because I am lying, but because I am not nearly ready to spill out the mountain load of thoughts or feelings that I am processing. Nor do I feel it right to impose that unto someone, it is rather rude, no ?

Then others would interpret that as, my being dodgy or some other bloody issue like that. This trait of ours, seems to bring out a lot of insecurity in others. God knows, why. It does not mean I do not trust them, it does not mean I do not care about them, it is far less about them and more about me. If and when the time is right, I will share as we go, but until I have reached my conclusion, none of it will be escaping my lips. Even if you threaten me. Especially very earthy or watery individuals, they would quite literally fight with me over this. However, they have often have this strange need to possess or to feel secure. I never understood why they felt so riled up over it, my loyalty to them never wavered. I believe it is because they make it personal, when my intentions hardly were.
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...Intimacy, felt like a pressure cooker to me, it felt like the other demanded of me...



Hmph. I still feel this way most of the time.

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It does to me as well, I am working on it but more often than not, I would get a deer in headlights moment and all my instincts tell me to run, hide, or disappear off the face of this planet. 😆

People are often left, feeling abandoned. I really should change this.
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See this is why I love sharing in the asylum. A safe place to get multiple takes!

It’s funny you locked into the strength of connection. Upon first hearing it for me, I locked into my tendency to do the opposite lol. Even my closest friends for years still inquire why I sometimes shut them out or wait weeks/months to share something important in my life....

Hmmm, I don't know if I would say that exactly. I mean I have, but it isn't generalized to all of my relationships. Simply romantic ones. If you recall I am very much a compartmentalizer. I only seek and explore that type of connection with my lovers/partners. Similar to you, I don't share things with my friends and do the opposite of "locking in" as well. I mean just the other day I was complaining about my blog being down and my Fish friend asked "what blog?". I explained it was something I've been doing for 3 years now. I bought a new place and moved and didn't tell some of my friends for months and only because one offered to pick me up on the way to the restaurant when we planned to meet up lol. I tend to share info like I'm sharing what I had to eat that morning:

Friend: How was your week?

Scorp: Meh....It was long and being stuck in traffic today didn't help. It took me an hour and a half to get home.

Friend: Wow, why so long?

Scorp: Ah the 401 was congested because people want to gawk at an accident

Friend: Wait. What? Why are you taking the 401?

Scorp: Yeah, I bought a house in __________

Friend: What?! When?!

Scorp: A while ago. August.

Friend: It's November.

Scorp: Speaking of, so are we going away to the cottage before it gets too cold? *can feel friend's internal eye roll*


I meant locking into the strength part of the original statement from the video. But hadn’t had my coffee and was articulating with my wine hangover lol.

That so funny though about the house. 😆 I’m getting more and more like that the older I get. A while back the crab was like

‘you moved? you got a dog? You’re gettig another new job? 😕 why didn’t you mention it when I asked how you were?’

‘You didn’t ask why. You asked if I was good. I said yeah.’

‘😐’

The only friend that gets that seamlessly is the Cap/Gem. My closer cancer, Aqua and Pisces friends I can always tell are a little perturbed. The Pisces used to start full on days long fights about it years and year ago lol. The cap gets it though. Just the other day at her place we were talking about a part of her past she divulged only in snippets and references that she purposefully seems to have forgotten a lot of. She was talking about how lately she was starting to remember, asking for my take since she knows I can relate.

Cap: I really haven’t even told you the worst of it Elly. The most of it actually.

Elly: Yeah. I know.

Cap: oh do you?

Elly: yeah. I mean I gauge that what you’ve told me is a solid 7% . But I figured if it was worth mentioning to you, you’d say something.

Cap: *laughs* Really? 7% ? That low?

Elly: Am I wrong?

Cap: *laughs* not at all.

Believe it or not, it’s that aspect that’s made her one of the ones I’ll go to first when I finally am ready to talk. To me it means she has some concept of my mindset before the words even come out.
Yes Elly, sometimes when I am struggling with something and I have yet to come to terms with my emotions. Then to have someone around me, realise my mood or mental / emotions state, for them to pick up on it, then to question it. Most of the time, I would tell them the truth, but only a snippet of it. Not because I am lying, but because I am not nearly ready to spill out the mountain load of thoughts or feelings that I am process. Nor do I feel it right to impose that unto someone, it is rather rude, no ?

Then others would interpret that as, my being dodgy or some other bloody issue like that. This trait of ours, seems to bring out a lot of insecurity in others. God knows, why. It does not mean I do not trust them, it does not mean I do not care about them, it is far less about them and more about me. If and when the time is right, I will share as we go, but until I have reached my conclusion, none of it will be escaping my lips. Even if you threaten me. Especially very earthy or watery individuals, they would quite literally fight with me over this. However, they have often have this strange need to possess or to feel secure. I never understood why they felt so riled up over it, my loyalty to them never wavered. I believe it is because they make it personal, when my intentions hardly were.
Omgsh it’s so funny you mention all this because in the same video I pulled the original quote from it talks about this. How Scorpios spend a lot of time working things out in their mind and cut others out of the process.

I still feel that way all the time. However I have started to realize there are big repercussions for those I love the most. So I’ve been working on at least saying ‘this has nothing to do with you. It’s me. It’s not personal against my trust in you. It’s me making sure I can trust myself.’

It’s interpreted as being personal against when they have no information to go off of. Which I have to remind myself all the time about lol. Because honestly when it’s reversed and i feel left in the dark, I’m the first to assume it’s always about me rather than something they’re working out something internally.
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You see in the past, I was a hypocrite because I would expect others to understand why I am this way but then to be irritated, angered, frustrated, or annoyed when others do the exact same thing. Until, I realise not to take it personally, that people need time, they deserve that, it is in their right. So then, once I took the 'personal' side of matters out of it. It was much easier, to take my focus elsewhere and to pursue more fruitful things than to mull and use up my poor brain cells, running them to the ground. Which actually, made me feel much better about myself, I felt more in control over my mental / emotional faculties. Hence practicing mental and emotional hygiene has been such important factors to me. However, on the reverse of this, people then complained that I became too detached and cold. As if, I did not care.

Therefore, damned if I do, damned if I do not. Now, I try to at least give a notice, before or at least provide an explanation after one of such events. To learn to realise, there is a responsibility, in parts, to be had for those around us that matters. It would only be respectful to let them know, even in brief, that this is merely my time. Yes, us Stingers think far too much, strange how they assume air signs to think too much. Air signs, overthink things, Virgins overanalyse things, we as Stingers, think too much in terms of processing and getting to the root of the matter.
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God I want to comment so bad about how I can relate, but not quite sure if I’m on the right track with what you guys are talking about. So to avoid the risk of sounding stupid I’ll refrain. Lol
Never feel stupid here stargazer, this is our safe haven. Be anything you want to be and share.

God knows, how many times I have spilled complete nonsense here but we will take you as you are.

(((hugs)))
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I'm pretty straightforward and fairly clear when I address an issue. So if I ask a question and someone "answers" but they're not really answering me offering the typical vague watery bullsh*t answer because you think you're smarter than me, I automatically go into...."okay, now I'm going into IDGAF mode".

And so now IDGAF and we will not be speaking again until you're ready to address the issue directly or f*ck off. Even if that means ending a 18+ friendship.

My anger is a curse sometimes, because once I see red. Well, I see red.
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I tease. Doing anything special with Ms. Scorpio for your birthday CAPSLOCK?
Its funny you ask because she's the only one that knows my birthday at work 🙂



January 13

No plans yet because we just started opening up to each other. She has the whole week off and likes her space.

I miss her a lot. We're both really shy around each other. But still, at work she'll poke me or I'll invade her private space.

I'm just venting 🙂
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Very cute.

She may just surprise you.
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I'm pretty straightforward and fairly clear when I address an issue. So if I ask a question and someone "answers" but they're not really answering me offering the typical vague watery bullsh*t answer because you think you're smarter than me, I automatically go into...."okay, now I'm going into IDGAF mode".

And so now IDGAF and we will not be speaking again until you're ready to address the issue directly or f*ck off. Even if that means ending a 18+ friendship.

My anger is a curse sometimes, because once I see red. Well, I see red.
Fixed signs approach to resolving things lol.
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🙂 Yeah... I am not known for acting and very much known for making it quite clear where you stand with me. So if I have an issue or sense you have an issue with me, I will ask you outright. You pussyfoot around the issue, then we have nothing else to say to each other until it's addressed. Otherwise I feel like I'm faking the funk. You feel some type of way. I feel some type of way, but we're gonna pretend like we're besties? No. I'm not wired to pretend with people.

I'll admit I am a little heated because she offended me by insulting my intelligence, on two accounts. People have no idea. When I say my anger goes from 0-100 very quickly, I'm really not joking. That hasn't changed with age, I simply don't react the ways I use to when I was younger. Now I just get very quiet and go through 1 of 2 doors. Callous indifference or emotional distance. I've also been known for doing an extremely challenging sudoku puzzle in a pinch when I've needed to calm down. Definitely something I should work on in the future. But it won't be today. Or even tomorrow.

I love her, but I don't like it when people play games with me.

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I also find it charming you do a sudoku to calm down lol. So mercurial of you.
Yeah, I had no choice when I first started my job. I literally only have 5 min between clients sometimes and I need a fresh mind for my sessions.

Of course my Gem ex was the one to introduce it to me. I had a bad case of vertigo and while we were waiting in my hospital room he showed me how to do it to take my mind off of things. I was "freaking out" (my version anyway 😄) since it was my first experience with vertigo. He was always great for helping me shift my mood.

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I’m the same way. From the jump over an issue it’s clear where I stand. Unless the issue completely sideswipes me and I’m emotionally t-boned. Then I disappear for a few hours or days until I figure out wtf just happened. But that only normally happens when dealing with crab suns lol.

I'm curious, why Crab Suns?


Sometimes when they’re afraid to confront you they save it up for a moment when they need space. They’re kinda like Libras, where they accommodate you without any hint they’re upset until months or years later then attack you with a laundry list of stored up grievances when they need space. Which I kinda understand cause I’m prone to the same sharing a moon. It still throws me though lol.
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When people do that, regardless of sign. I would disappear off the face of this planet, and good luck to them ever finding me again until I reappear. Do not throw me a list of grievances, my mind cannot possibly cope with all that information with an appropriate and timely rational / emotional response in turn.

Those are the worst, of worst experiences. Libras, explode in one big episode, which I find easier to deal with (perhaps, influenced by their opposite, the Ram ?). I find Crabapples, bring it up over and over again, nagging, until it feels like a death toll of a migraine.

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Learning to love oneself again, to rediscover all the things I have forgotten about when melded with others.

What a strange thing it is, I have never felt more full as an individual as I do now. Now alone and on my own, rather than when I was surrounded by people. There is more space in my mind to focus on what I want to achieve. Though yes, emotionally, there is something missing but it aches far less than knowing I was suppressing myself.

To be alone, but not lonely.

It is a shame, we lose or put so many parts of ourselves in the background when we are pleasing others. Who knew, the best company, could be yourself. Taking up all those hobbies you had put aside for others. Finally embarking on goals and learning things you had wanted to but did not, because others took up so much of your energy and time.

Me, myself, and I. Selfish, but time to make myself happy again, walking alone, but fulfilled.
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I think perhaps we Scorpios are creatures of habit. I know once I get into a routine of doing something I don’t like for that schedule to be interrupted or changed.

For 15-20 years my Scorpy grandfather went to the same little diner for his breakfast every morning after his sag wife died. Same time every day....never a minute late. They all knew him by name...knew what he liked and didn’t like. Had his coffee hot and ready for him. Had his meal ready too as he’d order the same breakfast everyday. One cold January morning though they knew something was off because he had not arrived yet and his coffee was getting cold. One of the waitresses went outside to have a smoke and thought it was odd that his truck was there, but he was nowhere to be found. Then something caught her eye. There he was lying in the parking lot dead from a heart attack.

Not sure why this popped into my head. Maybe since it’s almost the anniversary of his death. He’s been dead for 17 years now this January. Funny how certain tidbits pop into our heads, but I do think we are creatures of habit. At least I am for sure!
That’s rough on the dinner staff! What was your grandmothers sign, if you don’t mind me asking? I too had a Scorpio grandfather. My mom comments all the time how alike we are and how it weirds her out lol.
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