My fellow Scorpions with a Leo

Keep it light and airy with your Leo. As of late, I have found out he can't handle us.

It's like, we are talking two different languages.

He has started the blame game and plays the victim.

For me that means, WE are stuck on level superficial happy.

Keep it light. Ha ha.. he he.. watch stand-up comics, prank videos, listen to his endless yapping.

When he takes a break from talking and expects a commentary from you, say, "Yes!".

He asked me how I feel, but when I asked him back, he had nothing to say.

"Let's not talk about it right now".

Why did he ask in first place?

I was just fine with above the water, waterstrider level talk.

I'm not that laid back, kalin. 😢

2 days ago, he upset me so much that I told him to go to hell for as long as he wants.

I'm still hurt, so only 2 days later did I respond to his email that we can try friendship again, but can't give any promises. We need to stay clear from each other.

Then he told me I keep pounding on him... He has this problem and that problem. He is an IT guy, so his phone goes off at any time within 24 hours.


I haven't heard a 'sorry' yet.

I want to wring his neck,

I know he is busy. Mercury retrogate messed a lot of stuff even in my business. Aside from that, I injured my back and have to lie still most time.

So I dunno... Best would be not saying anything and keeping diplomatic.

I keep reading the monthly and weekly horoscopes from 100 different websites. I'm so impatient and just want to go psycho...

You are so right. WE... ladies.. get labelled as crazy b*, when the guy doesn't have to think twice what he causes.

Well.. maybe in another 500 years things will be different.

Women still have to keep mouth shut and the man happy.. or he will run off and WE (ladies) will have to carry his 'CRAZY' label.


Look at guys who call all their exes crazy, but guess who believes in that most? The NEW Girl!

Posted by FUM


It's like, we are talking two different languages.

this seems to describe the scorp leo relationship from my experience as well. & Kalin, I also had to deal with the 'i will do such and such' with no results. i have read a lot about leo's being reliable but wasnt the case i saw. but mercury is also retrograde so you know..

Hi kalin,

This morning I wrote a whole big paragraph, but it all got deleted. This site sucks technically. Sure no smooth sailing.

Wanted to say that LEO used to do that to me all the time. Whenever we had plans a few days ahead, it would never happen. I remember getting ready and no sound of him only until later when he used to say that something else came up. Honestly, I don't think he gave a rats second thought.

Then, whenever he planned, I just used to brush it off. Occassionally, wouldn't meet him for long periods of times like months and months. Say, OK.. but never pursue.

So lately we've been only meeting at a moments notice. When we make plans -- and it usually doesn't work out with him -- I get upset and I'm not a nice person when I'm upset.

SO... although all zodiac sites may tell you to keep mouth shut, which might be good thing, but I've given up on that. TOO MUCH PRESSURE! Imagine a wheel pumped with too much air pressure. It will explode.

So I prefer saying things and I work on NOT FEELING guilt thereafter -- NO matter what the outcome is.

Let's say I lose him... THEN SO BE IT! If he can't handle me now and if I have to pretend, then best is not being friends or in a relation.

Go for it! When you feel like cursing him... tell your mind, so he doesn't think he is this all WONDERFUL man! If he calls crazy, so be it!

I'm in no-speaking terms with Leo. Although since yesterday, it feels like weeks.

I tried communicating after I exploded on him. I wanted him to know what I think.

He wanted to continue our friendship but that doesn't seem to go so well.

He has become quiet.

Yesterday I called him. He thanked me for calling at the end of our conversations, "Thank you for calling me, FUM".


I know he appreciates my attention but I'm not going to repeat that. I hope not.

Posted by FUM

It's like, we are talking two different languages.

Things makes a lot more sense now. Both water signs, same moon, but merc (Scorp-Leo)--Qu? est's diciendo?.

Posted by PhoenixRising

Posted by FUM

It's like, we are talking two different languages.

(Scorp-Leo)--Qu? est's diciendo?.

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LOL

Exactly! That is how it felt.

Hassle is the right word. As much as I felt flattered by his attention, sometimes I couldn't find a moment to respond. Just when I was in the middle, he'd sent me another text, another text, another text.. bang bang bang.

Hm.. maybe because he was excited to getting into my knickers.

I made a big mistake! It was a mistake... I fell for his pushing me.. we both came to a point of high. Dizzying High.

Suddenly you just want to rip each others clothes and make love passionately.

It continued for hours. And then.. suddenly he felt guilt! The being married guilt. He told me he had to marry me.

Timeframe: Future! 5 years.... 5 years?

Wakie wakie again for me.

So I set an ultimatum. No more. He wants to concentrate on religion. He wants to find himself.

Will give him that time for as long as it takes. If he thinks he has to concentrate back on family, I am already out.

If he wants to come back, I don't know... it can't be the way it is. So keeping distant for me is healthier.

Being direct in a Scorpio way doesn't work for me either. I didn't yell at him or anything. I just said, 'Bye' and walked out. Later texted him profanity. I was so much in pain.

I don't care if he can take it or not. We are two separate individuals.

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. My motto! If he gets all shattered by my words, again.. it's better now then later.

May also help his decision on going back and STAYING with his family.

LOL I'm laughing at your 6 months apart. I know it is not funny but it's weird. Doesn't seem natural at all but every return brings us closer.

Hey Ladies,

FUM I don't think I'd handle several bouts of this. My ex has been out of contact now nearly 3 weeks and it is definitely getting easier.

Unsurprisingly another old Leo flame has been back in touch... They seem to sense when a scorpio girl needs a little more drama in her life I guess??!

Kalin, did you end up going hiking? Or is he still MIA?

Posted by kalin
@LilliLou: he is still MIA... I was really angry, but now I feel OK. I feel proud that I didn't bombard him with nasty emails this time LOL

I am glad that it's getting easier for you. It's getting easier for me too, strange to say.
I used to freak out every time when he went MIA. I used to go nuts, emailing/calling/texting like crazy. I didn't freak out this time. I felt angry and disrespected, but it's not the end of the world. I feel it'd be OK if I never hear from him again.

After everything he's put me through, I realized that I sure can survive without him.
I know I may experience a roller coaster of emotions, but I know once I get through the worst, I will begin to feel better. It was hard when I was not sure if I will ever get better. But now I know it will get better, easier, it's just a matter of time. (meanwhile, I may have to post on here to vent and whine :p)

Good work Kalin! I think it's a sign of you actually healing yourself and moving on when you can stop the bombardment 🙂 read an interesting article on it actually http://www.aphroditeastrology.com/2012/06/disappearing-reappearing-man-what-to-do.html?commentPage=13 and I'm not advocating the games but it is interesting to consider scarcity laws and what not...

And definitely get on here and let out steam! It's never a fun process, but as you can see on dxp there are always people going through the exact same dramas- you're not alone!

I know I'll bump into mine at some stage- we live in a small place- but I think its done.

Funnily enough I was talking to a friend of mine last night and he kept saying he couldn't believe how much I'd changed in a couple of years and how I was such an amazing person and deserved someone equally special. Was so nice to hear that, and its those little golden moments that help you along.

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^ I'm sure you're well on the way Kalin! I think the big move will really show you what you're made of and the ex will be just an old memory...!!!

I've been thinking on some big move too. Told him last time I spoke to him.

Seems like kalin and I have some parallel path running.

Even the 3 months of not talking. He said, 'FUM, I will not be be able to call you for 3 months because I need to concentrate on my business'. I responded, 'OK. (Whatever!)'.

I deleted him from everything, even MSN.. when I used to go online in the night, he used to message me there in odd hours when he couldn't phone...tons of offline messages and I Miss Yous. I just ignored him. Had surgery in Feb.

Then he started calling me again like a lunatic in April.

Lillilou,

At this point, I don't want to see his face again, unless he comes clear.

I keep reminding myself of situations he let me hanging.

I know he is sincere but I'm angry that he tagged me along for so long, keeps bouncing back and forth.

I know it is nothing but financial matter he can't do anything right now. However, he recently added wife's photo on his cell, which is major warning sign to me.

Irresistible 🙂 thank you for your comment.

I am glad I can compare notes with kalin and others. Helps the process.

I remember Seraph posting on another thread and saying that a part of the reason that a Leo contacts you again (and again, and again...) is that he is a fixed sign and possessive. Very much like the reason that we scorpio girls can't let go either. Once we are invested that is it. Locked in!

However you have to keep moving on for the sake of you OWN happiness. At the end of the day that is the only true control you have- your OWN life. That is why the big move is exciting Kalin!!! You are in forward motion and so many unknowns are ahead. I think you are being terribly brave and adventurous!

FUM- I have to agree with EEE. This is a very naughty Leo. A master manipulator even if he is not aware of it. Some people are born manipulators and some learn it, but regardless yours seems to be able to very easily able to use people around him as pawns in his game. I would be very, very concerned at this grandiose power plays. Something seems terribly off. When you also consider that he is/ has cheated on his wife I am not sure why you would even consider this man to be any kind of match with a scorpio of morals and integrity. I hope this doesn't upset you, and that you understand my concern is genuine.

Posted by IrresistableScorp
Sorry that Leo plan has completely shocked me. Seriously. Must analyze. 😄

So basically this guy would rather burn the whole bloody house down rather than just leave? There are definitely anger issues involved here.

In fact FUM the more I think about this the more I think you should destroy this thread. It appears that things may be getting out of hand in this relationship and you certainly don't need to be adding fuel for his wife's divorce lawyer should it go that way.

Be very careful here for your own good. Just saying. Better safe than sorry. 😉

Irresistible Stinging Pineapples 😛 has a good point FUM. This is pretty damaging stuff. I hope some of it was just being a big wind bag with dreams of grandeur but regardless does not paint a nice picture of the kind of man he is... Sorry!

Posted by kalin

Posted by LilliLou
I remember Seraph posting on another thread and saying that a part of the reason that a Leo contacts you again (and again, and again...) is that he is a fixed sign and possessive. Very much like the reason that we scorpio girls can't let go either. Once we are invested that is it. Locked in!

However you have to keep moving on for the sake of you OWN happiness. At the end of the day that is the only true control you have- your OWN life. That is why the big move is exciting Kalin!!! You are in forward motion and so many unknowns are ahead. I think you are being terribly brave and adventurous!

Great advice! I gradually come to realize that as well. Based on my experience, they are just nostalgic. When their current relationships are not going well, they think about the good old times we had... But the reason that broke us apart is always there and thus, Leo drifts away again after a while. I have half of the responsibilities. I opened the door every time he knocked. Since I let him in, I am responsible for dealing w the consequences myself. Sigh, hate being a fixed sign. Yes, once we've invested, we are locked in. Just got to find my way out. Thanks for being encouraging and reminding me I have something else to look forward to, a fresh start! 🙂
Ps. I have a tendency to get stuck in my own thoughts/emotions and forget about everything else that's going for me. Thanks again for the reminder 🙂

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But being fixed once you decide on a path you have the tenacity to see it to fruition! I'm fixed sun, moon, asc, mercury so I know all about stubborn.
You sound very lovely and self aware. As the Lady Scorp said in one of the other recent threads (i paraphrase) sometimes you have to go through that pain/ confusion/ heartache/ catharsis to experience something wonderful at the end of it all.

Posted by seraph
4 pages? Really??

Have you ladies considered that while you continue to explore each others' misery, the two Leos in question are probably living it up somewhere and aren't even giving this an eighth of the time and attention that you are?

'specially directed to you two, FUM and Kalin. And Kalin, this has been going on with you for MONTHS now. And he continues his hold on you. Because you *allow* it. You're being used.

Let it go already, the both of yas.

Be nice Seraph!!! Throws a big juicy steak to the grumpy lion...

We are getting there, slowly and with a few misdirects but certainly. Kalin especially is making a big effort to move forward. Venting on here is a way of getting the internal swirling bog of emotions sorted.

And my ex hasn't heard a peep for 3 weeks and am sticking to my guns on this one. I'm actually feeling that I'm out of the danger zone and in the clear...

Posted by kalin
@seraph: you sound very much Leo there!! (Waving) 🙂

Yes, I agree I have to let go. I was on the Leo board a lot to understand *him*, but now I'm on the Scorpio board to understand *myself*. It's been a slow process, but it just takes me a long time to get to where I need to be. The right mindset, for example 😉

I don't think he is my enemy anymore. My own emotions are. I spend most of the time in my own head understanding my own emotions and suffering. He is actually more like the background, or stage for my personal Emotion Recital. But I appreciate you pointing out the bigger picture-- outside of my head, in reality, he is just using me. Need to hear that for sure 🙂

Thanks again!! Xxoo

Exactement! Well said lady!

Aslan! (check its roots if in doubt) -- (seraph) not sure why you have a girl name..it's cute and unique though, sounds truly good.. perhaps some ex or something.. FORGIVE ME!
(I'm a damn Scorpio and I sting)

4 long pages already. It contains 7 years of listening.


Let's say... HURT makes people do things that are extraordinary... it may even make one feel in love. Could be real or imagination. Fantasy is something you fantasize and do not execute.

That's all there is.

He won't execute.

I was disgusted too.. but I get disgusted by so many things that sometimes don't add up. Everyone is different. I don't know what it was that pulled me towards him in the end. Leos always do that to me. I try to get away.. but they get me, even for a moment.

Yes it is dangerous out there. I tried protecting my heart and body for 2 full years. What else can I do?

Back to square one again. It's a girl's life. Venus in action! How I love thee.

Posted by kalin
@seraph: you sound very much Leo there!! (Waving) 🙂

Yes, I agree I have to let go. I was on the Leo board a lot to understand *him*, but now I'm on the Scorpio board to understand *myself*. It's been a slow process, but it just takes me a long time to get to where I need to be. The right mindset, for example 😉

I don't think he is my enemy anymore. My own emotions are. I spend most of the time in my own head understanding my own emotions and suffering. He is actually more like the background, or stage for my personal Emotion Recital. But I appreciate you pointing out the bigger picture-- outside of my head, in reality, he is just using me. Need to hear that for sure 🙂

Thanks again!! Xxoo

Wow.. there it goes again.. from Leo board to Scorpio board. From first understanding him to understanding me.

Yes. That's what I am doing too. 🙂

Lillilou.. I'm so proud of you ladies. Truly. Thank you.

People may find out how mushy we are on the inside compared to appearances. 😛

Posted by IrresistableScorp
Sorry that Leo plan has completely shocked me. Seriously. Must analyze. 😄

So basically this guy would rather burn the whole bloody house down rather than just leave? There are definitely anger issues involved here.

In fact FUM the more I think about this the more I think you should destroy this thread. It appears that things may be getting out of hand in this relationship and you certainly don't need to be adding fuel for his wife's divorce lawyer should it go that way.

Be very careful here for your own good. Just saying. Better safe than sorry. 😉

I am thinking on hiding some of the threads. But the message had to go over.

wow.. PAGE 5!


😄

LOL you get my drift.

Well.. On another note, succeeded in making an a $ $ of myself. :p

Irresistible -- you gave me something to think.

As much as wife was at fault -- let's say for the time we met, that was 2 years into it, and even last year he was in doubt of her cheating because she used to disappear for extended period of times, I have been extremely cautious for not putting him into jeopardy.

And I think I can finally say, our affair will not happen again. It was my biggest fear that I will end up in such rut.

Seraph warned that he can succeed in putting me into a shape when I end up accepting my status.

That thought alone is powerful enough to burn all my bridges if required.

😄 Thank you.


It throws me out of balance and wacko when I feel my planet out of sink. It has to be corrected!

Unfortunately, the solution is usually elimination. I warn well in advance.

Will always keep a place in my heart if it was well meant but not succeeded.

Oh.. being compared to another man/woman doesn't work at all.

I think Leo man engraves that comparison. You will get to hear it in the future.


GEM.. OMG! I'd run!

Posted by kalin

Sigh, yes, Leo is never over the fact that I compared him to another guy. And he decided that I was not the one based on that, even if he still had feelings and still has. (He has told me at least 3 times he still has feeling for me since March.) regardless, I just have to move on. Since I'm Not the one for him, he will keep looking (he said that). Thus, I need to keep looking too.

That big old Leo ego huh?
Did you go on a date recently Kalin??
Any sparks...?

I seem to be cutting out the lingerers rather than seeing any new suitors appear dammit.
Men seem to know when I am being ruthless.

3 weeks no contact!!! Waves my little stinger in the air and knows that the good karma fairy is going to deliver a leather jacket tomorrow 😛

I seem to be cutting out the lingerers rather than seeing any new suitors appear dammit.
Men seem to know when I am being ruthless.

So describes me, Lillilou...

Posted by kalin
I got asked out by a couple of guys, but I have been feeling so lazy that I didn't end up going out with any of them. I see my laziness as a good thing at this moment. I feel too lazy to take any initiatives so if people are still sticking around, they must like me a lot. Lol also, thanks to my laziness, I don't feel I have the energy to track the Leo down and find out whats going on. thus, I havent done anything stupid yet, which makes me feel very proud of myself. Lol
Whenever I got time, I just took naps :p

Congrats on making it 3 weeks of no contact!! You so deserve the leather jacket!! I'm very proud of you 🙂
We scorpions can have a big ego too. It's such an accomplishment not to impulsively chase after someone who hurt our ego/pride. It takes much more self control not to do anything about it and let it be. Way to go, girl! 🙂

LOL

kalin... you seem to take words out of my mouth.

LAZY due to.. I'm sick and tired of endings and new beginnings. ALL TOGETHER NOW... give me a break!!!

😄

I feel the same. It's so exhausting.

3 weeks is sure a milestone.

WOW... requires great strength when you have feelings for the person.

I am hoping and praying to break this dead cycle on finding a man who is unattainable.

Light and airy doesn't exist in Scorpio's vocab. That's Gemini's! We are truly light and airy. A Scorpio pretending to be that way is like asking a complete change of character. Not going to happen LOL!

Posted by seraph
4 pages? Really??

Have you ladies considered that while you continue to explore each others' misery, the two Leos in question are probably living it up somewhere and aren't even giving this an eighth of the time and attention that you are?

'specially directed to you two, FUM and Kalin. And Kalin, this has been going on with you for MONTHS now. And he continues his hold on you. Because you *allow* it. You're being used.

Let it go already, the both of yas.

+Infinity

Regardless of what sign both those guys are, they aren't interested. Because this whole BS they are pulling wouldn't be going on. That and you allow them to throw their tantrums and get away with bad behavior. Your Scorpio ultimatums, tantrums, fits, silent treatment does ZERO when your word isn't backed up. You either do or you don't. Don't give them an ultimatum only to go back on it. It cheapens your word which means they can dish out more crap because you will take it.

Posted by kalin
Ok, I couldn't stand it anymore, so I sent Leo an angry email (no cursing words, so proud of myself!!)

Basically, I asked if he was mad cause of other guys and told him I always get hit on by guys, I didn't do anything wrong, and he should just get used to it!! and that unless there's emergency, Not keeping one's word is Not the best quality of a good friend.

Guess what? he emailed me back in 1 hour and 16 minutes, admitted its his fault, apologized, and suggested that we talk tomorrow on Skype at 9pm (when he specified the time, he really wanted to make it happen) to figure out our hiking trip.

I guess it's obvious he was jealous. He told me I can spend time with whoever I want, doing what ever I want, but it's a lie. He ignored all my previous attempts to contact him that didn't address the important issue, "other guys". Now that I told him I didn't do nothing, he is apologetic and wants to talk about our hiking trip again. Funny man!

Shouldn't be this difficult Kalin. If he was into you and actually REALLY gave a shit this post would have never happened. I don't think he's interested. Point is, it takes you writing mean emails to get him to do something. Pressuring him into seeing you. Rather than HIM wanting to actually BE with you because he likes you, it's more like "If you don't see me ill punish you". Hell he probably does it just to keep you around for the ass he can get.

This whole Scorpion cray thing both of you are doing will only make the Leo resent you. I personally don't think both Fum or Kalin's man are into them. Just being brutally honest.

Posted by Jynja
Yet, it takes a Leo man the perfect moment to shed the outer cover and show his deeper side. All it takes is some faith in him that he'll sort his shit out like a bawse. But, Scorpio woman wants the deeper talk asap and when it's not forthcoming as she wants, she makes quick assumptions including accusing the man of being shallow and bounces on him.

This reminds me of something my ex said about a perfect moment and how much it affected him. I agree we are intense (hopefully its part of our dubious charm 😛) but I don't think we consider Leo's shallow!
I think its a case of our defaults being opposite too... Leo's need to be light and fun when challenged, but scorpio's go all deep and dark and still...

Its quite the conundrum isn't it?!

*read OP, skim* *post*

page 1-2:

page 3: .........

page 4: *thumbs up seraph*

page 5:

page 6: ................*eye roll*

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I love the synopsis Phoenix Rising!!! (and your profile pic is too adorable)

Posted by LilliLou
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I love the synopsis Phoenix Rising!!! (and your profile pic is too adorable)

Posted by PhoenixRising
*read OP, skim* *post*

page 1-2:

page 3: .........

page 4: *thumbs up seraph*

page 5:

page 6: ................*eye roll*

*goes immediately to page 3*