LostEejit
@LostEejit
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My Scorpio Story
so I order my beer in Bavarian and he smiles behind the bar and says "come here to me" ..and I, like an idiot, I feel he is going to tell me something, correct what I said, cause it was loud and the place was busy, so I wouldn't hear. I lean over the bar and he kisses me deeply and slowly like the bar isn't busy. I was so surprised I smiled and laughed during the kiss--not in a mean way--and then I kissed him back. It was the sexiest thing (even to date. maybe ever) that has ever happened to me.
Honestly, though, my initial reaction was to go back and buy him a drink and say he was a damn good bartender.
I go in again the next week, again he kisses my hand hello. I notice now he has an arresting smile, goes right through me (I knew NOTHING of Scorpio anything then). Again a Friday, the place is a bit busy. I am drinking, I go to the back to use the bathroom. I am washing my hands and in the mirror I see the door opens, someone else is coming in. I look up and its him. He says, I wanted to say hi, and then grabbed me up and again kissed me like he just got out of prison or something.
That night, I'll say, ended with a lot more of that. No sex, but a lot more of that. He tells me exactly what he wants to do to me, in an unnerving and blunt manner, while pushing me out the door.
He says he wants to see me tomorrow.
I go back the next day and he is cool and calm and indifferent. Ushering me out at closing, says I am his favorite guest.
I tread carefully after this. I am disappointed, but still at a stage where I'd buy him a drink and (genuinely) be like, hey you rock at this job. You know how to get em to come back. The hot (very hot) and cold/ aloof continue and eventually I think I spy him kissing other women. Then later on still I verify--yes-- he is kissing other women. I would stay late and he would ask me how many men had I been with. I told him 5 or 6 ( a lie! ..argh.) Asked me when was the last time I had sex (I lied there too. I was afraid he would't like me). Another night as he is kissing me and pushing me out the door I ask how many other women does he kiss at this bar. He smiled an says not so many. I said something hinting at he ought to not, and he smiled and said I will try. Another night (after) I ask how many women had he been with. I ask 100? He makes a face like.. ehhh. I say 200? He says less than 200. we flirt a bit. He says again (and this is weeks later) You have been with 5? or 6 men? That was a lie. He knew. And I lau
Honestly, though, my initial reaction was to go back and buy him a drink and say he was a damn good bartender.
I go in again the next week, again he kisses my hand hello. I notice now he has an arresting smile, goes right through me (I knew NOTHING of Scorpio anything then). Again a Friday, the place is a bit busy. I am drinking, I go to the back to use the bathroom. I am washing my hands and in the mirror I see the door opens, someone else is coming in. I look up and its him. He says, I wanted to say hi, and then grabbed me up and again kissed me like he just got out of prison or something.
That night, I'll say, ended with a lot more of that. No sex, but a lot more of that. He tells me exactly what he wants to do to me, in an unnerving and blunt manner, while pushing me out the door.
He says he wants to see me tomorrow.
I go back the next day and he is cool and calm and indifferent. Ushering me out at closing, says I am his favorite guest.
I tread carefully after this. I am disappointed, but still at a stage where I'd buy him a drink and (genuinely) be like, hey you rock at this job. You know how to get em to come back. The hot (very hot) and cold/ aloof continue and eventually I think I spy him kissing other women. Then later on still I verify--yes-- he is kissing other women. I would stay late and he would ask me how many men had I been with. I told him 5 or 6 ( a lie! ..argh.) Asked me when was the last time I had sex (I lied there too. I was afraid he would't like me). Another night as he is kissing me and pushing me out the door I ask how many other women does he kiss at this bar. He smiled an says not so many. I said something hinting at he ought to not, and he smiled and said I will try. Another night (after) I ask how many women had he been with. I ask 100? He makes a face like.. ehhh. I say 200? He says less than 200. we flirt a bit. He says again (and this is weeks later) You have been with 5? or 6 men? That was a lie. He knew. And I lau
And I laughed and said yes but you asked me in front of like 5 people (he did. loudly). He said so no one is listening now and I told him the truth. He asked me when was the last time I had sex and I (sort of) lied again, and he called me out. Bullshit, he said.
Another night, after this, he is majorly after some woman in the bar. I found that he is just kissing whoever, I had seen him kiss older women, young pretty women, and fat women. And it really sucks but it is odd as hell I don't care--as in, I like him no less. At the end of this night before I go, I flag him down and I tell him the truth about the last time I had sex. And I tell him, it is hard to tell a truth you are not proud of to someone you really like, but, there it is. And he gave me a hug and a kiss and a hug again.
He had kissed me goodbye in front of his staff, at the door. Not like just-got-out-of-prison but just normal. Sometimes he'd kiss me on the forehead. I never saw (nor have I seen him) kiss other women like this. He says hello to women who turn out to be long known, and sometimes kisses them on the cheek. Another night, I talk of his kissing, I say, someone hurt you. Or you lost someone. He says, I had someone. Someone died. He says, I keep the bar, and my personal life, separate. And I asked him, Why did he tell me? He says because I like you. I had, another night, told him I liked him. That it scared me. His response was to give me a kiss, tell me not to be afraid, usher me out the door. After that, on another night, he kisses me good night and he says, you are cool, I like you. Then more and more he would tell me. Not regularly, but, it would come up.
One day, there are two regulars and I am laughing at their antics. They are loud. I had been away some time. I tell the owner, I kind of miss these guys. He says not me. I say, I have been away a while, but if I had to deal with them night after night, then I understand you. He says, I love you. Then he walks off.
Other nights he tells me he used to want to find the right one, forever, he said but he had something happen to him where he died, came back. He said he'd tell me later. He said have fun here and now, live like you would die any moment, cause you could. I told him I can't. He said you should. I told him some of us travel and drink in bars and get lost in music, some of us kiss all the women. It's ok. Everyone has their own medicine. He stared at me like I'd just hit him with something for a few seconds, an
Another night, after this, he is majorly after some woman in the bar. I found that he is just kissing whoever, I had seen him kiss older women, young pretty women, and fat women. And it really sucks but it is odd as hell I don't care--as in, I like him no less. At the end of this night before I go, I flag him down and I tell him the truth about the last time I had sex. And I tell him, it is hard to tell a truth you are not proud of to someone you really like, but, there it is. And he gave me a hug and a kiss and a hug again.
He had kissed me goodbye in front of his staff, at the door. Not like just-got-out-of-prison but just normal. Sometimes he'd kiss me on the forehead. I never saw (nor have I seen him) kiss other women like this. He says hello to women who turn out to be long known, and sometimes kisses them on the cheek. Another night, I talk of his kissing, I say, someone hurt you. Or you lost someone. He says, I had someone. Someone died. He says, I keep the bar, and my personal life, separate. And I asked him, Why did he tell me? He says because I like you. I had, another night, told him I liked him. That it scared me. His response was to give me a kiss, tell me not to be afraid, usher me out the door. After that, on another night, he kisses me good night and he says, you are cool, I like you. Then more and more he would tell me. Not regularly, but, it would come up.
One day, there are two regulars and I am laughing at their antics. They are loud. I had been away some time. I tell the owner, I kind of miss these guys. He says not me. I say, I have been away a while, but if I had to deal with them night after night, then I understand you. He says, I love you. Then he walks off.
Other nights he tells me he used to want to find the right one, forever, he said but he had something happen to him where he died, came back. He said he'd tell me later. He said have fun here and now, live like you would die any moment, cause you could. I told him I can't. He said you should. I told him some of us travel and drink in bars and get lost in music, some of us kiss all the women. It's ok. Everyone has their own medicine. He stared at me like I'd just hit him with something for a few seconds, an
He stared at me like I'd just hit him with something for a few seconds, and looked away, looked at me again, and walked off. The next time I saw him hat night he was making out with some chick.
So way early I'd come in there he asked if I'd draw him a new logo for the bar. Told me what he wanted. Said he'd pay me. I said I could, but I couldn't tell him when. I draw at his bar a lot. So do other people. I kind of encourage it of them, I dig it. Anyway, these night go on, sometimes he is kissig women, sometimes there is no one around and we talk, sometimes he is kissing me. I let it be known in quiet ways I don't like him kissing other women, but I'ven ever outright said I hate it, or told him to stop. I know better. For whatever reason it hasn't kept me from going back in there just to be around him.
One night we have a good talk. I tell him he is empty. He says no. He tells me he likes me. Says if it were not true I would not say it, I would not. He says yes, he plays, but he does not fuck. He says I am different, I am awesome. Yes, he likes me. Bades me come in tomorrow, and I tell him he says this always and then the next day he doesn't care. He says he wants to see me tomorrow. I tell him I don't have the cash to drink. He says it again, and then later I am at the door and he says it again. So I finally say OK. When I come in again he is again indifferent. But, he paid for my beer all night.
The next time I came in he was not there, and I wasn't meaning to stay, so I gave his staff the money for the beer he paid for, and they said he would be in later. I told them I might be, but I didn't know, just give the money to him. I did come in later and he was busy, at the end of the night I am talking to one of the regulars and I go to say goodbye to the owner, who is behind the bar. He says do you have a t shirt yet? I say no. He tosses me one. I am thinking it is an extra or something, I look at the size, and it is a lady's size. It slowly dawns on me that he had gone back and gotten a shirt for ME, specifically. The value of the shirt being about the same as the money I had given him for the beer.
The week before Christmas I go in, there are some people in there, regulars, and I give him the first of two gifts. It's a compilation of the good art I've made, and the patrons of the bar had made, since June,since I started coming in there. He said he didn't deserve it. Looked at it, passed it around to everyone and then said it was a cool present
So way early I'd come in there he asked if I'd draw him a new logo for the bar. Told me what he wanted. Said he'd pay me. I said I could, but I couldn't tell him when. I draw at his bar a lot. So do other people. I kind of encourage it of them, I dig it. Anyway, these night go on, sometimes he is kissig women, sometimes there is no one around and we talk, sometimes he is kissing me. I let it be known in quiet ways I don't like him kissing other women, but I'ven ever outright said I hate it, or told him to stop. I know better. For whatever reason it hasn't kept me from going back in there just to be around him.
One night we have a good talk. I tell him he is empty. He says no. He tells me he likes me. Says if it were not true I would not say it, I would not. He says yes, he plays, but he does not fuck. He says I am different, I am awesome. Yes, he likes me. Bades me come in tomorrow, and I tell him he says this always and then the next day he doesn't care. He says he wants to see me tomorrow. I tell him I don't have the cash to drink. He says it again, and then later I am at the door and he says it again. So I finally say OK. When I come in again he is again indifferent. But, he paid for my beer all night.
The next time I came in he was not there, and I wasn't meaning to stay, so I gave his staff the money for the beer he paid for, and they said he would be in later. I told them I might be, but I didn't know, just give the money to him. I did come in later and he was busy, at the end of the night I am talking to one of the regulars and I go to say goodbye to the owner, who is behind the bar. He says do you have a t shirt yet? I say no. He tosses me one. I am thinking it is an extra or something, I look at the size, and it is a lady's size. It slowly dawns on me that he had gone back and gotten a shirt for ME, specifically. The value of the shirt being about the same as the money I had given him for the beer.
The week before Christmas I go in, there are some people in there, regulars, and I give him the first of two gifts. It's a compilation of the good art I've made, and the patrons of the bar had made, since June,since I started coming in there. He said he didn't deserve it. Looked at it, passed it around to everyone and then said it was a cool present
a cool present. Thanked me. 20 minutes later he thanked me again. And then again. Then he asked if I was ready for a big kiss from him. And I said, now? He says, yes. And walks off to the back room. As do I. I got a proper thank-you.
Later on that night he is talking to me about his life philosophy, asking what I think about family, telling a little but asking of me, I reveal a bit more about me than he did ( I didn't catch this until the next day) and he said no one has ever given him such a present. He said he would love to be in a relationship, with a girl like me. Spilled my beer reaching for my hand after he said it. I told him, he did not want to because he had been through so much bullshit. And he looked sharp up at me and said yes, how do you know this. I hate you. ..No I don't. This happened several times. I gave him his second gift, which was the logo he asked for months ago. A black and white, but it had taken time. He looked like he was going to cry. He really did. He said nothing for a while, and I walked around to give him a hug, or something, because he did look like he was about to lose it. He met me halfway and gave me a big kiss, a hug. Told me I was so different, I was awesome, he was not even expecting someone like me. I told him he is different to me as well (and he is) that is is special to me. He echoed I am special to him. We talked a bit more, that was that.
I go in the next time, he comes around and gives me a big hug hello. A kiss on the cheek. Talks to me for a time keeps his arm around me. Late that night though he is pursuing another woman, and I leave early. And he has my hand and asks why? And I look at him for a few seconds then I have to look away, and I look back and just say, I want to go. He kisses my hand goodbye and I go. The next time I come in, same thing. he is friendly to me, says hello, but toward the night's end he kisses another woman. I just go. I say nothing, I am not curt or rude but I leave..cause it sucks to be around.
At New Year's, I had unfortunately acquired 4 or 5 fans at closing, and they were waiting for me to leave so they could either just say good bye or see if I wanted to hang out. One of them would not take the hint and go outside (the rest were outside the door). The owner again said he liked me, but kept saying he wanted to have sex with me. I could help him sexually. I said then what? (Not in a mean way, but matter of fact) Then you go back to playing with your women and I fall
Later on that night he is talking to me about his life philosophy, asking what I think about family, telling a little but asking of me, I reveal a bit more about me than he did ( I didn't catch this until the next day) and he said no one has ever given him such a present. He said he would love to be in a relationship, with a girl like me. Spilled my beer reaching for my hand after he said it. I told him, he did not want to because he had been through so much bullshit. And he looked sharp up at me and said yes, how do you know this. I hate you. ..No I don't. This happened several times. I gave him his second gift, which was the logo he asked for months ago. A black and white, but it had taken time. He looked like he was going to cry. He really did. He said nothing for a while, and I walked around to give him a hug, or something, because he did look like he was about to lose it. He met me halfway and gave me a big kiss, a hug. Told me I was so different, I was awesome, he was not even expecting someone like me. I told him he is different to me as well (and he is) that is is special to me. He echoed I am special to him. We talked a bit more, that was that.
I go in the next time, he comes around and gives me a big hug hello. A kiss on the cheek. Talks to me for a time keeps his arm around me. Late that night though he is pursuing another woman, and I leave early. And he has my hand and asks why? And I look at him for a few seconds then I have to look away, and I look back and just say, I want to go. He kisses my hand goodbye and I go. The next time I come in, same thing. he is friendly to me, says hello, but toward the night's end he kisses another woman. I just go. I say nothing, I am not curt or rude but I leave..cause it sucks to be around.
At New Year's, I had unfortunately acquired 4 or 5 fans at closing, and they were waiting for me to leave so they could either just say good bye or see if I wanted to hang out. One of them would not take the hint and go outside (the rest were outside the door). The owner again said he liked me, but kept saying he wanted to have sex with me. I could help him sexually. I said then what? (Not in a mean way, but matter of fact) Then you go back to playing with your women and I fall
Then you go back to playing with your women and I fall for you more than I have already fallen. He stood up straight and looked at me when I said that, but he said nothing. He made another reference, I just gave him a hug, kind of dodged his kiss and left.
The last time I went in, this is why I write, cause it'd just gone odd. He has a very good friend (guy friend) who I have kind of as well become friends with. His friend is also one to play with women, except his friend still has casual sex a lot. So this friend comes in, usually sits and talks by me, but this night he just said hey, and went straight for this woman at the other end of the bar. Talks the girl up and within minutes I see them outside and he is hard-core flirting with her. I remark to the owner, he works fast! (This friend, also, is in his 20s). The owner says, yes, in seconds. I said that's remarkable. Sure enough he leaves with the girl. Some other people come in. This frizzy blonde comes in, the owner talks to her, she has friends who come talk to me, I get them drawing stuff. So she is talking to me and she says she likes to go dancing, she mentions that she is bi. I, being the kind of naive friendly person I am, say I love dancing, and we exchange numbers and make plans to go dancing. The owner then chats her up, in German, in front of me, exchanges numbers with her, in front of me, takes her outside, where I can see, gets really close with her, and just aggressively pursues her. Normally I take his antics as, he is who he is. The whole Mars in Capricorn/mid crises/ death thing. One of these is a contributor at the least. But that night shit it hurt. It felt mean. And I remained smiling and friendly but I put my coat on and left.
Really, I'm madly in love with the guy. But I get it. Pretty sure I understand he's given up on anything serious with a woman, and hell I'd be the same way. I'd like to say I'd stay away, wait for the feelings to go away and then go back to content (I travel a lot, many me say hello, I dissapoint often. But everyone stays at arms length. this guy got to me). So I know better though.. I'll go back. Glutton for punishment I guess. I have no expectation, to be realistic I'm in no place for a relationship but I am absolutely enamored. And clueless as to what he feels/wants/ etc. lol. typical eh?
I would love to hear the forums thoughts on this?
Thanks
The last time I went in, this is why I write, cause it'd just gone odd. He has a very good friend (guy friend) who I have kind of as well become friends with. His friend is also one to play with women, except his friend still has casual sex a lot. So this friend comes in, usually sits and talks by me, but this night he just said hey, and went straight for this woman at the other end of the bar. Talks the girl up and within minutes I see them outside and he is hard-core flirting with her. I remark to the owner, he works fast! (This friend, also, is in his 20s). The owner says, yes, in seconds. I said that's remarkable. Sure enough he leaves with the girl. Some other people come in. This frizzy blonde comes in, the owner talks to her, she has friends who come talk to me, I get them drawing stuff. So she is talking to me and she says she likes to go dancing, she mentions that she is bi. I, being the kind of naive friendly person I am, say I love dancing, and we exchange numbers and make plans to go dancing. The owner then chats her up, in German, in front of me, exchanges numbers with her, in front of me, takes her outside, where I can see, gets really close with her, and just aggressively pursues her. Normally I take his antics as, he is who he is. The whole Mars in Capricorn/mid crises/ death thing. One of these is a contributor at the least. But that night shit it hurt. It felt mean. And I remained smiling and friendly but I put my coat on and left.
Really, I'm madly in love with the guy. But I get it. Pretty sure I understand he's given up on anything serious with a woman, and hell I'd be the same way. I'd like to say I'd stay away, wait for the feelings to go away and then go back to content (I travel a lot, many me say hello, I dissapoint often. But everyone stays at arms length. this guy got to me). So I know better though.. I'll go back. Glutton for punishment I guess. I have no expectation, to be realistic I'm in no place for a relationship but I am absolutely enamored. And clueless as to what he feels/wants/ etc. lol. typical eh?
I would love to hear the forums thoughts on this?
Thanks
oi what a story! i'm not a scorpio but i'm also a virgo with venus in libra who had a relationship with a scorpio sun, leo moon. not that my "credentials" so to speak give me any expertise because it seems pretty clear that you DO already know what's going on with this guy and exactly how this will end, i.e. "Pretty sure I understand he's given up on anything serious with a woman", "I have no expectation, to be realistic I'm in no place for a relationship", ETC. his player mode is blatantly apparent and he makes no effort to hide it from you so despite what he says about you being different, let's say you can chalk that up to him being a blatant player yet again. as for how you THINK you feel, experiences you have and the relationships you make feel heightened and intense because you are in an exotic place for a year and thus you have this sort of YOLO/ carpe diem mentality. i am actually also abroad and have had a similar experience where i was swiftly swept off my feet and thought i was "in love" but then reality set in and i realized exactly HOW wrong i was (now he repulses me). so... tread with caution.. around him and with yourself, even. i think once you allow reality to truly become real, you'll realize that you're NOT "really... madly in love with the guy". get a hold of yourself missy. cheers 🙂
You have exactly my chart, minus the Aquarius Moon. Will read in a bit.
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eventually I think I spy him kissing other women. Then later on still I verify--yes-- he is kissing other women. I would stay late and he would ask me how many men had I been with. I told him 5 or 6 ( a lie! ..argh.) Asked me when was the last time I had sex (I lied there too. I was afraid he would't like me). Another night as he is kissing me and pushing me out the door I ask how many other women does he kiss at this bar. He smiled an says not so many. I said something hinting at he ought to not, and he smiled and said I will try. Another night (after) I ask how many women had he been with. I ask 100? He makes a face like.. ehhh. I say 200? He says less than 200. we flirt a bit. He says again (and this is weeks later) You have been with 5? or 6 men? That was a lie. He knew. And I lau
He's only gearing the conversation towards sexual topics and he admits to kissing a lot of women. I'd stay clear of him.
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I had seen him kiss older women, young pretty women, and fat women.
You seem to go off as entitled, otherwise I don't see why you needed to add what type of women he kisses. Basically anyone though.
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I let it be known in quiet ways I don't like him kissing other women, but I'ven ever outright said I hate it, or told him to stop
LOL at this. As if he'll stop doing that because you somehow think he's interested in you and should kiss only you
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He says he wants to see me tomorrow. I tell him I don't have the cash to drink. He says it again, and then later I am at the door and he says it again. So I finally say OK. When I come in again he is again indifferent. But, he paid for my beer all night.
Only reason to say that was to force a reaction out of him. You still don't seem to get he's playing and you're not the exception.
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He said he would love to be in a relationship, with a girl like me.click to expand
Only reason he said that is because he sees you're pining over this.
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Really, I'm madly in love with the guy. But I get it. Pretty sure I understand he's given up on anything serious with a woman, and hell I'd be the same way.
Madly in love? You are delusional. All that kissing probably got to your brain and fogged it to the reality: you come across as easy to men, since that's the vibe they're getting from you.
He didn't give up on anything serious with a woman, you??re just another one of his barflies. There isn't anything special about your interaction.
Some pretty strong statements about ME with little inquisition based on a few anecdotes here..
I don't come across as easy. Other men in this place have tried to kiss me, I've openly turned them down. Other men in this place (and across the US, etc) have tried (in no subtle way) to flirt, and I'm openly an asshole to them.I regularly call the owner out,here, whether his friends are around him, or his staff,or other patrons, sometimes other women that he says this crap to everyone and he will say no, and more than once he turned other women away so sit and chill with me. I had asked him once if he wanted to meet outside the bar for coffee and he surprisingly said yes, right away and with enthusiasm, but couldn't nail a time down.
Also I understand aggressive physical advancement on women does generally fog up their emotions into a whirl of oh-he-likes-me. Outside of being a total dog with women, he is regarded (even by other woman friends of his) to be a nice and generous person. I'm not saying our interaction is the end all be all of his behavior, nor am I saying I want anything from him. It's kind of just there, at the moment.
@Bloodflood: I got the "YOLO" blah blah out of my system traveling the states/ Ireland previously. I plan to settle in Bavaria, after 4 years it is the first place that feels like home. If this alters your comparison to my experience being just like your experience. You could be right, though. Who can say.
So far the feedback from women my age has been the same.
So far the feedback from older men has been interestingly different and varied.
I am interested in more feedback 🙂
I don't come across as easy. Other men in this place have tried to kiss me, I've openly turned them down. Other men in this place (and across the US, etc) have tried (in no subtle way) to flirt, and I'm openly an asshole to them.I regularly call the owner out,here, whether his friends are around him, or his staff,or other patrons, sometimes other women that he says this crap to everyone and he will say no, and more than once he turned other women away so sit and chill with me. I had asked him once if he wanted to meet outside the bar for coffee and he surprisingly said yes, right away and with enthusiasm, but couldn't nail a time down.
Also I understand aggressive physical advancement on women does generally fog up their emotions into a whirl of oh-he-likes-me. Outside of being a total dog with women, he is regarded (even by other woman friends of his) to be a nice and generous person. I'm not saying our interaction is the end all be all of his behavior, nor am I saying I want anything from him. It's kind of just there, at the moment.
@Bloodflood: I got the "YOLO" blah blah out of my system traveling the states/ Ireland previously. I plan to settle in Bavaria, after 4 years it is the first place that feels like home. If this alters your comparison to my experience being just like your experience. You could be right, though. Who can say.
So far the feedback from women my age has been the same.
So far the feedback from older men has been interestingly different and varied.
I am interested in more feedback 🙂
I think you're blinding yourself with your emotions and cannot see the facts. If there was this connection you speak of, he would pursue it.
You say you like him, then you're madly in love, then completely enamored. You tell him kissing other chicks makes you feel bad, and then you say you don't want anything from him. Sorry, I don't buy it.
I didn't mean to imply you're a slut but your vibe comes across as easy, because you referenced this:
A guy wouldn't have the nerve to tell you this if he didn't think there was an opening. I get you've known this guy for a while and mayne he even spoke in jest..still it's not ok.
You say you like him, then you're madly in love, then completely enamored. You tell him kissing other chicks makes you feel bad, and then you say you don't want anything from him. Sorry, I don't buy it.
I didn't mean to imply you're a slut but your vibe comes across as easy, because you referenced this:
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The owner again said he liked me, but kept saying he wanted to have sex with me. I could help him sexually.
A guy wouldn't have the nerve to tell you this if he didn't think there was an opening. I get you've known this guy for a while and mayne he even spoke in jest..still it's not ok.
Posted by LostEejit
Some pretty strong statements about ME with little inquisition based on a few anecdotes here..
I don't come across as easy. Other men in this place have tried to kiss me, I've openly turned them down. Other men in this place (and across the US, etc) have tried (in no subtle way) to flirt, and I'm openly an asshole to them.I regularly call the owner out,here, whether his friends are around him, or his staff,or other patrons, sometimes other women that he says this crap to everyone and he will say no, and more than once he turned other women away so sit and chill with me. I had asked him once if he wanted to meet outside the bar for coffee and he surprisingly said yes, right away and with enthusiasm, but couldn't nail a time down.
Also I understand aggressive physical advancement on women does generally fog up their emotions into a whirl of oh-he-likes-me. Outside of being a total dog with women, he is regarded (even by other woman friends of his) to be a nice and generous person. I'm not saying our interaction is the end all be all of his behavior, nor am I saying I want anything from him. It's kind of just there, at the moment.
@Bloodflood: I got the "YOLO" blah blah out of my system traveling the states/ Ireland previously. I plan to settle in Bavaria, after 4 years it is the first place that feels like home. If this alters your comparison to my experience being just like your experience. You could be right, though. Who can say.
So far the feedback from women my age has been the same.
So far the feedback from older men has been interestingly different and varied.
I am interested in more feedback 🙂
honestly... just go for it. do what you FEEL. and then whatever happens as a result of your true emotions, then deal with the consequences logically. then you can say you have no regrets. i can already see that despite wanting feedback and despite talking about the situation with a multitude of people, you will ultimately do what YOU want in the end even if this might be contradictory to other people's advice or to the apparent red flags. my friends call me an "ASKHOLE.. meaning someone who asks for advice but never follows the advice.
obviously my experience is different from yours, but regardless i can still see similarities in the situation. but with that said, the experience IS yours so the mistakes are yours to make and the lessons a
lol@ ASKHOLE.
* and the lessons are yours to learn.
all i can say is.. damn those water signs!!
all i can say is.. damn those water signs!!
You are definitely right.. I'll make my own determinations. Also I was asking for thoughts, not advice. And I appreciate your thoughts on the matter.
The responsible thing to do is probably nothing. I dig the bar. I dig the guy. I have my own agenda here, though.
And yeah, really I want nothing from him. I'd help set him up with a chick if it made him happy (really) that's me. Even if it sucks, which, it would.If I'm blunt honest with myself, all the stuff I'd like to do here in the next few years wouldn't do me any good to be with someone.. so as I said, it is just there. And again, I ask thoughts. I feel for him, which yes might just be because of the nature of our interaction, but I'm not deluding myself thinking I can change anything. Or maybe I was little bit. We'll see what happens.
I will keep in mind what was said about coming across as easy, or what responses from men constitute coming across as easy.
The responsible thing to do is probably nothing. I dig the bar. I dig the guy. I have my own agenda here, though.
And yeah, really I want nothing from him. I'd help set him up with a chick if it made him happy (really) that's me. Even if it sucks, which, it would.If I'm blunt honest with myself, all the stuff I'd like to do here in the next few years wouldn't do me any good to be with someone.. so as I said, it is just there. And again, I ask thoughts. I feel for him, which yes might just be because of the nature of our interaction, but I'm not deluding myself thinking I can change anything. Or maybe I was little bit. We'll see what happens.
I will keep in mind what was said about coming across as easy, or what responses from men constitute coming across as easy.
ASKHOLE is ace, btw
Posted by LostEejit
I'll make my own determinations. Also I was asking for thoughts, not advice.
Fair enough.
Thoughts are as follows:
After 5/6 months a man who is interested in pursuing anything beyond a kiss and a hug in a bar will make it known he wants to take things further. (regardless of a near death incident, or astro sign)
You are young enough to be his daughter with a 20 year difference in age. He's a Scorpio and knows this and although probably attracted to you (as he is in many women) when a Scorp man (going by astro now and most Scorp men) WILL make it known he wants more from you. He confirmed the maturity level in you, and although he may be attracted to you, it pretty much ends there.
I was hoping he'd take you up on the offer of coffee outside the bar where there is NO alcohol involved. After six months a man (Scorp or not) who is interested outside a bar atmosphere would jump on this opportunity if he was interested in a.) getting to know you on a more personal level and b.) one on one away from crowds
He is a bar owner, the goal of a bar owner is to draw crowds in and make money. He sees you as decor in his bar. Women come to a bar, he treats them as he treats you to keep them interested in coming to the bar (he's a smart one) it keeps the male customers there and coming back who tend to spend more money to drink (especially if you and other ladies are attractive).
Finally...astrologically speaking..that Leo moon. Yea..the desire for attention, praise and keeping people desiring them is part of his make-up. Leo moon is 10x more so of the Leo suns.
There is a friendship here, nothing more, nor will there ever be more. He would have made it known by now if he wanted to take it to the next level.
After 5/6 months a man who is interested in pursuing anything beyond a kiss and a hug in a bar will make it known he wants to take things further. (regardless of a near death incident, or astro sign)
You are young enough to be his daughter with a 20 year difference in age. He's a Scorpio and knows this and although probably attracted to you (as he is in many women) when a Scorp man (going by astro now and most Scorp men) WILL make it known he wants more from you. He confirmed the maturity level in you, and although he may be attracted to you, it pretty much ends there.
I was hoping he'd take you up on the offer of coffee outside the bar where there is NO alcohol involved. After six months a man (Scorp or not) who is interested outside a bar atmosphere would jump on this opportunity if he was interested in a.) getting to know you on a more personal level and b.) one on one away from crowds
He is a bar owner, the goal of a bar owner is to draw crowds in and make money. He sees you as decor in his bar. Women come to a bar, he treats them as he treats you to keep them interested in coming to the bar (he's a smart one) it keeps the male customers there and coming back who tend to spend more money to drink (especially if you and other ladies are attractive).
Finally...astrologically speaking..that Leo moon. Yea..the desire for attention, praise and keeping people desiring them is part of his make-up. Leo moon is 10x more so of the Leo suns.
There is a friendship here, nothing more, nor will there ever be more. He would have made it known by now if he wanted to take it to the next level.
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