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ok, hello, good evening, I feel alot of things tonight. And I really, really need your help, so please if anyone can help me out there. It would mean the world to me. First off, I'm a scorpio, Which I susppose can mean alot of things. But anyways, I have this "conflict", You see I have fallen in love with this guy whom is a sag. And the sweet thing is, I'm not sure if there is something bewteen us, I mean I find myself flirting most of the time with him, laughing uncontrolably, And he flirts as well. I want to be in a relationship with him. Is there anything I can go on, besides the flirting and you know that s*** you do with people you like.

If you are reading this, I have to say. I love him. what should I do, when sometimes it seems like just maybe theres something there. And sometimes it seems, or he seems perplexed and withdrawn in himself, I'm conflicted on what to do, Do I tell him how I feel and after it will be all strange and what not, or can I go on the simple fact that we had and or perhaps have something if not anything. I love him what should I do.

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Ok it seems as though your asking for me to describe him. Well I'm not quite sure how to. But some of the advise I did get was really insightful. A sag wrote me saying that "their being flirty got them into a great deal of trouble and they have been mistaken for that, that could be the problem here I believe.

But anyways. Well what can I say Ok there was this one time in the car we were together in the back and again he was like flirting with me or whatever and when I would not be looking he would be looking at me. The guy driving had noticed it, And of course being a scorpio I sensed it too. He was smiling alot and he could not even look to me. I couldn't to because I was like laughting uncontrollably, I was nervous but looked controled. lol

I just have to say I feel almost stupid writing this, what the f*** does anybody care. I mean if somethings going to happen between me and him it will, and if not ok then, But I just feel like a thousand and something other people do when they like someone.

But then again. I just have to say that
Philip K. Dick is like the f*** strangest, most looking person I've ever seen. He looks all creepy in this picture I have of him, love his work though.

But back to the subject of this guy which by the way his name is miles. So today I have called miles and thankfuly his sister pick the phone up because if it were him, I would of surely just hung the f*** thing up. I'm trying to be thoroughly subtle about doing this, (lets just say I have a hidden agenda)
So now my plan is to get him to go to the movies with me, and talk on the phone if that works. Really not sure what to say. But I'm sure I will make myself like look like a fool lol lol
I don't know there's something funny about all this I'm just like alone it's 2:41 in the morning and I'm like all f*** silly. lol lol ohhhhhhhh s***
lol I'm just f*** laughing because of this.
Shit I've written a whole f*** "short story"

But let me give one more detail about him, well lets see I have doubts about his sexuality. One being he is really into the bible and I'm as well. And I think he might try that you now it's wrong thing.
Shit I don't know what the f*** he is I should just ask him I was thinking as I was cleaning up today. I mean it really would not make any kind of difference.
I don't ever have to see him again.

Oh but listen I love him, some might think how can you love someone like that but I just do. I could spend the rest of my life caring and loving this man and making him happy does that sound like someone who really cares and loves hime.

I guess now the question is what should I do about talking to him on the phone. I need help seriously help,

Wow, what a story!!! Jason, are you openly gay? Or openly gay to him? The only way out i can see for you is to eventually ask him or proposition him with what is on your mind. I know, it is awkward when you like somebody of the same sex and you're not sure whether or not they feel the same way but I think that eventually you'll need to know.

You'll need to follow your instincts on when is the right time to tell him.

Hi Jason,

I understand where u are. I'm a scorpio gurl, and I can give u some advice. I think u'll understand bcuz ur a scorp too.(saggi is a fire sign)
I can relate: I was once a part of a relationship with a fire sign, aries, and I can't begin to tell u how it drained me of energy. This guy was so fiece and that's what I liked about him. He seemed to know exactly what to do and say, he was entertaining, funny, stubborn, mysterious and I thought I was the one for him, the one who could ride his flames. The one whose love he needed to survive.
I became obsesed, not a pretty sight, and I honestly thought with all my heart that I loved him, and that I wanted to make his life a beautiful exciting roller coaster ride. It is true that water and fire can make some very sexy steam together, but u'll have to struggle about staying in balance.
The plan schemeing came in when things were falling apart, and I was the one to try to keep him from leaving. didn't work. He became abusive and I backed off. I never had the courage to sting him, but only with words that I thought was going to hurt him too. I was seriously depressed for about a year. Then I learned to forget about it, but thoughts of us still haunt me.
So this relates to u. I think that u want to give ur love to someone, like I wanted to give my love to him. But u don't know if he's worth it, and will he be honest with u. He's something u need and would like to make happy because u need him in ur life. But u both have to want the same thing for things to work.I think this guy will take a lot of what u have to offer without ever giving back the same. And u'll resent that, because u love him, and soon u'll fall in a war within urself. To love him would mean 4 u to sacrafice urself because it's hurting u. U can't win unless u let go of him.(worst case scenario)
What u could do if u are old enough, and have gay friends, is to make up a plan like this: u tell him(saggi)that ur friend who is gay is going to a gay club, he invited u and u'r inviting him to go,(new experience) give him reasons why he should go, in terms of himself. But don't confess anything, like u love love him. U'll have nothing to fall back on, while he hasn't lost anything. U'll regret it. Try to hang out with him and bring in a little made up story of ur friend who didn't think he was attracted to the same sex, bu the was, and ask him while laughing if he'd ever thought about that. if he asks u the same, just say u find it contoversial, but u don't know, u never had a chance to experiment. give him a look....
Or at the club u could get drunk and go a little further fliring wise, and if he's not into it, that will give u a clue and u can always say that u didn't know what came over u, u were drunk. U're a scorp, u can think some of this up. Try to find out if he's gay first, since ur not sure. Be sure, and then see if he's interested, adapt to his moods, have conversations, but don't let him figure u out, cuz then he'll be in control and he'll know what ur after.Keep ur dignity and self respect. don't let him step on ur pride, show him that u need respect, and don't go for less.

Hope this helped.
(tell me if it did.)
GOOd luck 🙂

That is a good idea (the last poster)!

Scorpio female here.

Hi Jason!

May I just say that I definitely feel like this other guy is indeed gay. I could be wrong though. This is my personal take on what you should do. Make yourself *slightly* unavailable. Make him think that you could do with or without him...and make good use of that "mysterious" air we scorps seem to exude. Give him one, long, inviting and intense gaze; then break it, and see what happens. Let him come to you. Do not confess the depth of your feelings just yet. Not until you are sure that he has some feelings for you (which I think he does, but for whatever reason he isn't displaying them the way you would like). Have absolute confidence that in the end, you will get what you want--when you silently display this confidence, you wil be instantly magnetic to others...and hopefully that includes him. If the two of you are close together in physical proximity, touch him in a non-sexual way (for now)...but only for a few seconds, and preferably when the two of you are laughing or being less than serious (because he will be intrigued by not knowing for sure what the touching means). Draw him to you, using that famous Scorpio silent seduction. This advice is not meant to just get him into bed; it's meant to help you see if your feelings are reciprocated. You seem like a fun person to be around--the fire signs like this. They like energy, positivity and charisma...and they are also drawn to mystery. As long as fire (Sag) and water (Scorpio) are into each other, things will heat up fast. If they aren't on the same page, you will figure that out quickly too.

Good luck, I wish you the best!

-Heather

Hi Jason, now here's a few questions for you...what IS Miles like? (LOL BTW Bible readers are gay too! I thought what you posted about that was funny!) How long have you known him? How old are you both? And what are your B-days? (I'm just curious?)

Here's the best advice. Forget the fact that he's a Sag and what the other posters said you should do BECAUSE he's a Sag. You really need to treat him as a PERSON (cuz that's what he is). Show him understanding, compassion, tolerance and above all respect. And this is important...NO GAMES OR DISHONESTY. And take one day at a time like I said before. Sags love people who are themselves and can make us feel comfy. Believe it or not we can tell when "one is trying to hard" and that makes us uncomfy and suspicious. (We'll ask ourselves what's their motive for this behavior? Crazy but true.) It comes off as phony - which it is. Just be yourself

I must say your post brought back memories of when I first fell in love. Boy did I feel crazy! He made my heart smile! I now am involved (sort of) with someone who not only makes my soul smile but I don't feel complete without him. Do ya think he's my twin flame? I'm beginning to think he is. Anyways thanks for bringing me back to that "firt time in love" time!

PS: Regarding your comment about Miles not even looking at you, believe me that is a sign that they want you. I've recently experienced this with my friend (twin flame?). In the past his hands were all over me but when I recently saw him he not only would not touch but was afraid to even look in my direction! It's a long story between me and him and could never be summed up here other than the fact he's married, told me he loved me, we were together, and then he felt guilty (need I say more?). But it means that they are afraid of losing themselves in a person and confused about what to do. That's why a person does that.

Just to clarify my post, I am not advocating "dishonesty" at all. Love, courting, romance--all of that IS somewhat of a dance though. That is what makes it fun, interesting and exciting. Of course you should treat him with respect and honesty--all people should be treated with these basics, regardless of astrological sign. That should be a given.

Heather : )

P.S. I also believe that you should "be yourself"--if my advice would require you to sacrifice or alter your personality or natural inclinations, then discard it. I was generally using the NATURAl (not phony) abilities that Scorps have as a reference for giving pointers on romantic interaction.

Heather

Wow, you guys have given the best advice 🙂

For Heather (206.102)

Know what you mean about the Sag fire and the Scorp water. My sis is a Scorp and let me tell you when the 2 of us "bump heads" it more like Mt. St. Helen! We really give each other a run for our money. Of course it's done in good fun being that we are sisters. You know if I could find a Scorp male like that I would be more than willing to get to know him better. I find them very mysterious and I know that it takes them a long time to "open up" and perhaps that is why I as a Sag loose patience with them? Venus in Sag = No Patience In The Love Dept. Although by your post you have definitely given me food for thought as to why I should give a Scorp a chance.

You think the men are like the women? I know my sis is a piece of work! But this I can tell you I can see why a relationship between a Sag and a Scorp WOULD BE ANYTHING BUT BORING!!! Of course it all has to be in good fun. As with any relationship.

Still I LOVE MY CAPPY! I can see NO OTHER MAN FOR ME!