Scorpio - Am I getting in too deep?

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Ok. I made a post a while back about this Scorpio that vanished on me not once but twice. However spending a lot of time in the Scorpio forums I am definitely starting to get scared. Especially that post made about "The Sting: How low will you go".

Im starting to think that I might be in over my head. I wanted to post his chart and get some yummy Scorpio insight on it.

Basically what has happened is hes in school right now getting a double masters. He claims he just lost sight of what was really important and wasn't able to give me the time I needed. Even though I never, ever asked for anything. I think maybe he thought I was trying to ask for crap but hell I was definitely not doing that. All I wanted to do was chat.

So anyways this is the third time he came back. But this time he is laying VERY heavily into me. The previous meeting he claims that he is in love with me and even thought about marriage. Of course me being skeptical I squint and throw back some verbal ammunition calling him out about his previous actions. Drag your face through the mud? Yes. The last two times I approached him raging and told him it was over and I am leaving. Guess what I got? NOTHING. A big fat zero. It was almost like he pretended I wasn't even there! Oh and we were never together, because he never even gave me the time. But now? I don't get it? How is it you "love" me but just wander off?

Let's get one thing straight I do NOT put up will bull butter. Either you do or you don't. Figure it the hell out.

But reading all these stories about Scorpio is starting to scare me with the psychotic aftermath.

Here is his chart:

Sun - Scorpio
Ascendant - Aries
Moon - Capricorn
Mercury - Scorpio
Venus - Scorpio
Mars - Libra
Jupiter - Aries
Saturn - Sagittarius
Uranus - Sagittarius
Neptune - Capricorn

Any insight? I want to believe he really means it. This past week he has really spread it on thick. Mentioning after he gets his double masters, then off to grad school (within the next year) he wants us to possibly live together, talks about marriage, kids, traveling. Every single day. He even says the L word. Which I have NOT said because I told him I don't trust him yet. Im not about to lay myself out like that. I would like to tell him that but I cannot. Self control. My Venus/Mars are both in Taurus and I am standing my ground.
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Posted by hiplove79
Sun - Scorpio
Ascendant - Aries
Moon - Capricorn
Mercury - Scorpio
Venus - Scorpio
Mars - Libra
Jupiter - Aries
Saturn - Sagittarius
Uranus - Sagittarius
Neptune - Capricorn

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This is his chart?



Based on the history between you two, how you have responded to him(which is an indicator of future behavior)and his chart, I will make this short and sweet by simply answering to the title of this thread.

And yes that is his chart....



Yes.

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Sorry about that. Yes that is his chart. But what makes you think I am getting in too deep is it all the fire and water in his chart? *Suffocates*



something tells me you like your relationships 'light' =)

but you love that danger, dont you? just a wee bit? his chart looks really ambitious and quite the very responsible person. He sounds like a great catch. Up to you and how you feel, really. I mean, the balls in your court.
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Actually I'm not going to lie I love the danger. Until I am in too deep and I have NO idea how to get out. Come up with some cleaver plan! Yes! I an invincible!

He is a great guy. I just didn't really understand why the Houdini act though.
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Posted by Reconstructing_a_Leo
The Capricorn moon talking: doing the double masters. Maybe ask yourself how much you two have in common. The moon (to me, and many) is as equally important as the sun. This moon/or any strong Cappy influence needs to be respectable, the 4 house garage house, solid finances etc.
Just make sure you want the same things



Yes! I love that he's like that. Hes very adamant about getting his double masters, a house, new car, etc. He has major plans in the works and I really look for that solid stability. My venus/mars are both in Taurus so I look for that a lot in someone. We have a ton in common including how we grew up, likes/dislikes, etc. 🙂

I'm just scared that he might be too intense for me.
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In my experience it's never a good idea to give someone a second chance if they've done the same thing over and over again. But you know emotions get in the way.

I did date this scorpio once who I never thought he'd come back. Then he did and he told me basically the same thing yours did. That school was hectic, he was very busy, he really cares about me. I hung out with him for a while after that except I didn't treat him nicely. I was pretty cold to him and not very nice cus I'd reject kisses from him sometimes. He came on very very strong. But as soon as school started up again he was back to his old self and pretty much ignored me.

Up to you if you want to get into this mess again. Maybe with him being out of school he'll be less focused on school and more on you....then again he'll need to get a career and he'll want to focus on that too.
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In my experience it's never a good idea to give someone a second chance if they've done the same thing over and over again. But you know emotions get in the way.

I did date this scorpio once who I never thought he'd come back. Then he did and he told me basically the same thing yours did. That school was hectic, he was very busy, he really cares about me. I hung out with him for a while after that except I didn't treat him nicely. I was pretty cold to him and not very nice cus I'd reject kisses from him sometimes. He came on very very strong. But as soon as school started up again he was back to his old self and pretty much ignored me.

Up to you if you want to get into this mess again. Maybe with him being out of school he'll be less focused on school and more on you....then again he'll need to get a career and he'll want to focus on that too.



Thank you for your insight. I know. I know you're right. See I am just wondering if he will do it again. I know that actions speak louder than words but I would like to give him the benefit of the doubt I suppose. Yeah he is coming on VERY strong. Just like your story. I mean terribly strong. So it has me doing the whole "side eye" thing and squinting. I did warn him I said "We will see how things go when you start grad school and when things pick up again." Believe me I am very aware that he could pull this again when things get "busy". I told him I said "If you love someone you're NEVER too busy." He didn't give me an answer just "Im sorry".
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Thank you for your insight. I know. I know you're right. See I am just wondering if he will do it again. I know that actions speak louder than words but I would like to give him the benefit of the doubt I suppose. Yeah he is coming on VERY strong. Just like your story. I mean terribly strong. So it has me doing the whole "side eye" thing and squinting. I did warn him I said "We will see how things go when you start grad school and when things pick up again." Believe me I am very aware that he could pull this again when things get "busy". I told him I said "If you love someone you're NEVER too busy." He didn't give me an answer just "Im sorry".





Wow! That sounds just like what I went through where I told him you can't be too busy if you care about someone and he just said sorry...I even told him we'll see when he starts up school and what do ya know, he went back to his old self. Maybe yours will be different. I just wouldn't let myself get attached until he does start his grad school so that you don't get hurt again.
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Thank you for your insight. I know. I know you're right. See I am just wondering if he will do it again. I know that actions speak louder than words but I would like to give him the benefit of the doubt I suppose. Yeah he is coming on VERY strong. Just like your story. I mean terribly strong. So it has me doing the whole "side eye" thing and squinting. I did warn him I said "We will see how things go when you start grad school and when things pick up again." Believe me I am very aware that he could pull this again when things get "busy". I told him I said "If you love someone you're NEVER too busy." He didn't give me an answer just "Im sorry".





Wow! That sounds just like what I went through where I told him you can't be too busy if you care about someone and he just said sorry...I even told him we'll see when he starts up school and what do ya know, he went back to his old self. Maybe yours will be different. I just wouldn't let myself get attached until he does start his grad school so that you don't get hurt again.
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That's so interesting that our stories are that close. Im starting to believe what he is saying is true. Yes that's great and all but I am waiting for things to get busy again then we shall see how it really is. I know he means well but to be that busy for someone you really care about? As I have mentioned he is coming on very strong. From talks about living together, marriage, children, etc. Has this plan and he sees me in it, etc. I feel bad for not saying the L word back but I have to be cautious right? Waiting to see how things pan out before I even say that word.
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damn you guys lol he's doing a double major. That is HARD. I mean, he's working on a career. Houdini act? He's probably burying his head in books. There's your houdini act.
if you are bored, entertain yourself into something fun and working on yourself. For example, work on your own career, education, and whatever you want to do. He sounds like a very smart, intellectual type of guy, who works hard. What more do you want?



Oh yeah I know. You are very right. He is a great guy. I'm just trying to figure out what's going on exactly. I understand he's busy with school, but don't come at me slinging the L word around and talk about future events if you know you will be THAT busy. Why start something with me?
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He means everything he's telling you. 😉 He's just not a multitasker, and he wants to give it his all, when he can.

Some Scorpios have the patience of a ...Scorpion, hiding in the corner, waiting at their leisure for their prey to come at them. Those with little air in their charts usually focus on one subject at a time (which is why they have the reputation of being obsessed). This is also why many times, they are successful.

If he's important to you, and you want to be with him, find other activities you can immerse yourself in while he's doing this own things. Don't lose hope. He's thrown some serious plans out there, i would definitely take them seriously. 😉 Good luck.
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Posted by FireDragonScorpio
men have no concept of timing when they see someone they want. they want it now. like a child in a sweet shop. if they aren't really in a position to be with that person now...unfinished business, intense study, 30 kids by previous partners...then they will most often just make it known they want you, or indeed have you and then continue to string you along until they're good and ready to start something properly. this way, the object of their desire is left in such a state of confusion as to not attempt a relationship with someone else because they're left dangling by a thread, thus ensuring they don't have sex with anyone else.

i think he's just checking in and marking his territory. just give him space and time, but NOT TOO MUCH, for your own sake 🙂



Yes maam! Thank you for your insight! 🙂
I know I will give him time. Its just at my age these future plans are things I really want right now being in my early 30's. I just want to make sure this isn't some kind of stupid game. I don't have time to waste for him to get his butter together then come around and go "Well sorry bye", and wow Im late 30's you know?
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He means everything he's telling you. 😉 He's just not a multitasker, and he wants to give it his all, when he can.

Some Scorpios have the patience of a ...Scorpion, hiding in the corner, waiting at their leisure for their prey to come at them. Those with little air in their charts usually focus on one subject at a time (which is why they have the reputation of being obsessed). This is also why many times, they are successful.

If he's important to you, and you want to be with him, find other activities you can immerse yourself in while he's doing this own things. Don't lose hope. He's thrown some serious plans out there, i would definitely take them seriously. 😉 Good luck.



Thank you for the positive reinforcement
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damn you guys lol he's doing a double major. That is HARD. I mean, he's working on a career. Houdini act? He's probably burying his head in books. There's your houdini act.
if you are bored, entertain yourself into something fun and working on yourself. For example, work on your own career, education, and whatever you want to do. He sounds like a very smart, intellectual type of guy, who works hard. What more do you want?



Oh yeah I know. You are very right. He is a great guy. I'm just trying to figure out what's going on exactly. I understand he's busy with school, but don't come at me slinging the L word around and talk about future events if you know you will be THAT busy. Why start something with me?
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Exactly. People who are that busy shouldn't start something up with someone. That's why I'm glad I didn't get attached to that scorpio because he's now a hermit because he focuses on only his school work.
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men have no concept of timing when they see someone they want. they want it now. like a child in a sweet shop. if they aren't really in a position to be with that person now...unfinished business, intense study, 30 kids by previous partners...then they will most often just make it known they want you, or indeed have you and then continue to string you along until they're good and ready to start something properly. this way, the object of their desire is left in such a state of confusion as to not attempt a relationship with someone else because they're left dangling by a thread, thus ensuring they don't have sex with anyone else.

i think he's just checking in and marking his territory. just give him space and time, but NOT TOO MUCH, for your own sake 🙂



Yes maam! Thank you for your insight! 🙂
I know I will give him time. Its just at my age these future plans are things I really want right now being in my early 30's. I just want to make sure this isn't some kind of stupid game. I don't have time to waste for him to get his butter together then come around and go "Well sorry bye", and wow Im late 30's you know?



damn girl you have very youthful energy. I thought you'd be around early 20sh, or maybe you have such a young soul too. 🙂

good luck. you'll never be bored with this guy, and will always feel safe. He's probably already dissected your personality /character and likes what he sees/knows, so you're good to go!
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Thanks for the compliment! A lot of people say I look in my early 20's (thank gawd)! I chalk that up to genetics and being a rockin' Gemini!
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Alright so I have an update on this Scorpio. Today is his birthday so I emailed him and sent him messages and all kinds of things. He seems to like all this attention and im not usually one for that type of thing. You know the whole "email me before you go to bed".

Sigh

So today yes it's his birthday but Im finding the more I get to know him the more annoyed I am becoming. The whole selfish attention only on him is starting to push my buttons. Ok I get that you like all of this but seriously? I am going out of my way for you but when it comes to me nothing. Sometimes Ill be on a chat application and he won't say a thing for 30 minutes but if I dont answer in 3 minutes when im at work its "Oh you better not be talking to any boys", or "You have gotten quiet!".

Im starting to get pretty angry. And when I voice it he answers with "I dont want to argue". WTH is this bullbutter? Im about to stop talking to him today period even though it's his birthday. I have done the run around with this guy before and im getting tired of his double standards. Oh pay attention me all the time but when it comes to me nope hes soooo busy doing petty things like playing video games. And can't answer ME for 30 mins!!!! I better not even ask cause then he doesn't want to argue.

Im soooooo treetrunking mad right now.
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Posted by Sagittarius89
Both scorps I've dated/dating always made/make time for me and they both are extremely intense about what they do.

If someone likes or loves you they will make time for you.


I don't buy into this " I'm too busy for people " bullshit.



i think for some people it's a juggling thing, sag. especially men...they put things into neat little compartments. us ladies can multitask 😉 plus, i guess we're better with handling emotions.

his career was the reason my sag dumped me first time around and i never really understood that till much later...because it wouldn't be an issue for me.
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UPDATE!

So Ive taken the time to get to know this guy and seriously there is NOTHING there.

This is his chart:

Sun - Scorpio
Ascendant - Aries
Moon - Capricorn
Mercury - Scorpio
Venus - Scorpio
Mars - Libra
Jupiter - Aries
Saturn - Sagittarius
Uranus - Sagittarius
Neptune - Capricorn

Omg I cannot tell you HOW boring this guy is. I asked him a lot of questions and I was either met with silence or, "All I do is play my video games, work, school." I kid you not. Dead serious. I understand he is a bio/chem major but wow. Seriously? That boring? I talked about things I was into music, food, etc. We are COMPLETELY opposite. Everything.

We argued and disagreed on all the following: Food, music, hobbies, etc.

And Im sitting here thinking ok that's fine he can like what he wants but it's so selective and so minimal. Honestly he is probably the MOST boring person I have ever met. He has no zest for life. Everything is facts, school, work, video games. Sticks to same foods, doesn't even read any books. He told me hes not a big music fan, or movies. Im like what the fuck do you like? Stuff.

I asked him also about what he does romantically for the girls he dates. Hes like "I don't know flowers I guess but im not very good with that. I am not very creative. I even flunked a beginners creative writing class in college. Im all about facts. My mind doesn't work like yours or anyone elses on that creative level." Boooooo....*Thumbs down* So hes the kind of guy that will never buy you a card, flowers, or do much more than that. Won't come up with ideas to surprise you with. I flat out asked him. I go "So you're the guy that will buy like the first thing that is advertised on FTD for Valentines.

This is the guy that claims he's in love with me and Im trying to get to know him on a deeper personal level but there is nothing there. Im sorry but I don't think dating Helen Keller is exactly my idea of a soulmate. Am I being to mean? Because as much as Id like to give him a chance, there is ZERO depth/creativity to this guy. He is also funny enough very defensive, so we tend to get into a lot of arguments because he twists things. *Sigh*
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AFTERTHOUGHT:

As a Gemini you k now that is our one true dislike. Being bored. And when I was trying my best to see what he liked I didn't get much of a reply. And it's not that he doesn't like me, it's just that hes THAT limited. He doesn't like anything. Except school and video games. I'm rather disappointed right now. He has all these "strong" feelings. I don't get it.

Here is a general look into our conversation:

Me: So do you even read any books? I like to read a lot. Who is your favorite author?
Him: I don't like to read really. Books aren't my thing.
Me: What is your thing?
Him: I don't know. School and video games. That's all I can say.
Me: Okay. Well what about food? I love sushi, sake, asian fusion types. My town has some really nice wine bars where you can go in and do a flight tasting.
Him: Sushi is gross.
Me: Have you ever had it?
Him: No.
Me: Then how did you form an opinion if you've never had it.
Him: I don't know.
Me: Ok what about music? I like lots of things. (I go on to list all the types I like). What do you like?
Him: Not really big into music. Mudvayne I guess. Metal. I don't know.

That's the gist. But it's so 😢
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Awe! Thanks for the compliment on my humor. I try to keep it light and humorous even though in reality I am very annoyed with this guy. LOL! Thumbs down is right!
Not sure what I am going to do yet about this boring Scorpio. I mean I really think a lot has to do with his Capricorn moon. No offense to Cappies but I find them down right boring. *Snores* He said the same thing about what you did regarding opposites attract but it's so opposite I find myself bored with him and not really speaking to him much. When a Gemini gets bored we pretty much vanish. Not my cup of tea to be bored to tears with someone.

As for his age, he is younger than me. I cant really remember how old he is but its between 23-25.
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Booo next!

I have a scorpio friend who's a lot like that. We're both into gaming so we at least have that in common, but I could never date him. He goes to work then games. So boring. We go out for drinks every so often, but most of the time it's just gaming.

This guy seems a bit worse tho.

Definitely not a right fit....Idk who would be a right fit for him honestly :S

Sounds like you want someone who will romance you 😉