Ok, finding a way to fit this in the max character will be work but I'm going to try. So I'm a leo and I've had this best friend whose a scorpio for about 5 years. Since I was 19, I'm 24 now. We are the same person. We get along so well. Infact when we first starting being friends he was seeing one of my best friend and is an ex of some of my other friends I used to be closed to but have drifted from (all who are oddly supportive of this union and wish the best) we've always had chemistry I guess but I also took it as being high off the friendship. For the most part we've both been single like 5 years. We've had a number of ppl we talk to hook up but aren't quick to get in a relationship. He knows every guy that's made me cry vice versa he used to call me for advice with his baby mama and gave me secrets ways he felt about things he never told anyone. Once we got drunk at a party hooked up and then I swore to never speak of it and for years I think his feelings were hurt I wasn't interested in continuing. He would get falling over drunk try to kiss me all the time ask why I don't love him anymore why I will leave plans with him to talk to guys who mistreat me etc so over winter break we start kinda actually talking we always joke about having a kid together or getting married when were 30. He had some stripper gf who ended up cheating on him (but before he swore if I was serious to give it a go hed leave) we end up hooking up after they break up and it just never turned into anything. We keep trying to stop we've tried to stop being friends be friends stop hooking up tbh even in a platonic way I think were sickly obsessed with each other. Suddenly he doesn't wanna ruin our friendship or whatever and he thinks I'm different but I'm the same. I just respect his wishes I don't even initiate conversations anymore but now he always initiates everything. Conversation hanging out hooking up even cuddling. So for someone who was even quoted as saying he wants us to be friends for the rest of our lives and doesn't want to destroy our friendship he certainly isn't consistent. He goes from friendzone to ripping my clothes off by the days. And the worst part is the sex is mind blowing for the both of us. The worst part is we've both had sex with each other more than even people we've been in relationships with and without wishful thinking I think he's the one having a hard time with feelings and intimacy but I've tried to have the I'm down to try if you are.
Scorpio BEST friend with occasional benefits?
He's even gotten in a fight with me for not saying hi to him on a date in front of his date once. He gets mad at me for breathing. I like him he's mad. I don't like him he's mad. I call him he doesn't answer. I don't reply to his text he texts me repeatedly calls me and then facebooks me to ask why I'm not answering. And I've never gone a week without seeing him we hang out at least once to 4 times a week. We have the same everyday friends. I act the same sex or friends. But he gets so uncomfortable and I just feel like he's holding his breath to not catch feelings for me. I just don't know how to handle it. I'm not opposed to the relationship for how comfortable I am to him but I've been coasting off the friendship and just not trying to act any different or even acknowledge that it happens cause it makes him get all weird. But he is constantly accusing me of being jealous or obsessed when I'm acting the same as when we were 19. So I don't know what will make him happy, but I've had the nastiest fights with him and for whatever reason he can't text me the next day like it never happened. I can tell him we can't be friends anymore and he'll tell me I'm drunk and I don't mean it. I would love to just give him what he wants from me but I don't even think he knows but from someone who only sleeps with the same girl once it certainly makes it sound like something considering he can't let it go. Help.



Posted by SsupesWas that directed at me? If so, I have a response.
Well, what if your not relationship compatible but the sex is great?
Don't be narrow minded

Posted by SsupesI don't assume. If people want to be fuck buddies, I could care less. To each his/her own. I've always maintained that.Posted by LetltBYes it was...........Posted by SsupesWas that directed at me? If so, I have a response.
Well, what if your not relationship compatible but the sex is great?
Don't be narrow minded
You are assuming that the friend is not relationship worthy........this isn't always the case.
2 people can agree to have sex and nothing more......click to expand
However, as usual I see right through the OP's issue here. She's trying to make people like you think she wants nothing more than a friendship. It's horseshit. I can read between the lines of what she says and contradicts here. My response to it was simple with the pic.
If she really cared about just a friendship she wouldn't be fucking him because clearly there's issues with it. Also...if it's just the fuck buddy she wants, there wouldn't be fights. She wants MORE. Plain and simple. He does not, he's sewing his oats and enjoying the hell out of himself. She's acting like it's HIM who has the problem. I say BULLSHIT.

She's a Leo. The Scorp doesn't seem to mind fucking her & the others she mentions. She's the one with the "just fucking" problem. Certainly not him.

+1 on both, LIB.

Posted by HeartlessHeart
He's even gotten in a fight with me for not saying hi to him on a date in front of his date once. He gets mad at me for breathing. I like him he's mad. I don't like him he's mad. I call him he doesn't answer. I don't reply to his text he texts me repeatedly calls me and then facebooks me to ask why I'm not answering. And I've never gone a week without seeing him we hang out at least once to 4 times a week. We have the same everyday friends. I act the same sex or friends. But he gets so uncomfortable and I just feel like he's holding his breath to not catch feelings for me. I just don't know how to handle it. I'm not opposed to the relationship for how comfortable I am to him but I've been coasting off the friendship and just not trying to act any different or even acknowledge that it happens cause it makes him get all weird. But he is constantly accusing me of being jealous or obsessed when I'm acting the same as when we were 19. So I don't know what will make him happy, but I've had the nastiest fights with him and for whatever reason he can't text me the next day like it never happened. I can tell him we can't be friends anymore and he'll tell me I'm drunk and I don't mean it. I would love to just give him what he wants from me but I don't even think he knows but from someone who only sleeps with the same girl once it certainly makes it sound like something considering he can't let it go. Help.

Posted by HeartlessHeart
Ok, finding a way to fit this in the max character will be work but I'm going to try. So I'm a leo and I've had this best friend whose a scorpio for about 5 years. Since I was 19, I'm 24 now. We are the same person. We get along so well. Infact when we first starting being friends he was seeing one of my best friend and is an ex of some of my other friends I used to be closed to but have drifted from (all who are oddly supportive of this union and wish the best) we've always had chemistry I guess but I also took it as being high off the friendship. For the most part we've both been single like 5 years. We've had a number of ppl we talk to hook up but aren't quick to get in a relationship. He knows every guy that's made me cry vice versa he used to call me for advice with his baby mama and gave me secrets ways he felt about things he never told anyone. Once we got drunk at a party hooked up and then I swore to never speak of it and for years I think his feelings were hurt I wasn't interested in continuing. He would get falling over drunk try to kiss me all the time ask why I don't love him anymore why I will leave plans with him to talk to guys who mistreat me etc so over winter break we start kinda actually talking we always joke about having a kid together or getting married when were 30. He had some stripper gf who ended up cheating on him (but before he swore if I was serious to give it a go hed leave) we end up hooking up after they break up and it just never turned into anything. We keep trying to stop we've tried to stop being friends be friends stop hooking up tbh even in a platonic way I think were sickly obsessed with each other. Suddenly he doesn't wanna ruin our friendship or whatever and he thinks I'm different but I'm the same. I just respect his wishes I don't even initiate conversations anymore but now he always initiates everything. Conversation hanging out hooking up even cuddling. So for someone who was even quoted as saying he wants us to be friends for the rest of our lives and doesn't want to destroy our friendship he certainly isn't consistent. He goes from friendzone to ripping my clothes off by the days. And the worst part is the sex is mind blowing for the both of us. The worst part is we've both had sex with each other more than even people we've been in relationships with and without wishful thinking I think he's the one having

^^^^ smh.
Posted by LetltBPosted by SsupesI don't assume. If people want to be fuck buddies, I could care less. To each his/her own. I've always maintained that.Posted by LetltBYes it was...........Posted by SsupesWas that directed at me? If so, I have a response.
Well, what if your not relationship compatible but the sex is great?
Don't be narrow minded
You are assuming that the friend is not relationship worthy........this isn't always the case.
2 people can agree to have sex and nothing more......
However, as usual I see right through the OP's issue here. She's trying to make people like you think she wants nothing more than a friendship. It's horseshit. I can read between the lines of what she says and contradicts here. My response to it was simple with the pic.
If she really cared about just a friendship she wouldn't be fucking him because clearly there's issues with it. Also...if it's just the fuck buddy she wants, there wouldn't be fights. She wants MORE. Plain and simple. He does not, he's sewing his oats and enjoying the hell out of himself. She's acting like it's HIM who has the problem. I say BULLSHIT.click to expand
I think you're stressing on parts and leaving out details. If you're not dating anyone and you're having mind blowing sex with someone your comfortable with then yeah you're gonna do it. It doesn't mean I don't care about my friendship. I never instigate it. I don't talk about it. I don't bring it up. He will constantly say he doesn't wanna hook up anymore cause he thinks it's making everything messy but while I disagree I respect his wishes but then days later he goes back on it and I'll even say no, we just had this talk I don't want to "ruin our friendship" and he'll retract his statement. We fight because he'll come into my work (I bartend) on a date and then be like "so why didn't you say hi to me when I saw you whatever day" and I'm like cause I was on a date and I didn't need to, and he starts flipping out making the girl he's with super uncomfortable. I fight with him b
fight with him because I'm consistent and he's inconsistent and he's accusing me of jealousy constantly when he just knows me well enough to know who to be jealous of. He starting hanging out with all these guys I use to date and it's really weird for me cause he has known them for years and never wanted to be best friends before. And it's odd cause he gives the guys this impression almost like he's befriending them so they don't touch his territory. It's ridiculous. I really don't care if I'm in a relationship with the dude. I'm a leo when I'm in love it's the titanic. There's crying, I'm jay gatsby with daisy. This is not the situation. I'm not opposed to the relationship because we ARE relationship compatible we like the same things can hang out one on one all day and have so much fun have mind blowing sex but that doesn't necessarily mean I think he's Casanova he's just my best friend as he has for 5 years. I'm down for either but I don't think the mixed signals on his end are necessary then blame me and say I'm mixed signals. If it was just fwb that's fine I could have sex when I needed it and see other guys, but he stresses on it to much. Like he expects it means something to me when I've made it clear if that's what he wants I'm fine. So then that's not what he wants also fine. Then he changes his mind. I'm his best friend not some booty call I see him 5 days a week sometimes I hang out with his friends I know his mom. He doesn't have to lie to me to have a certain situation because I'm fine with the truth but I think rarely is the truth inconsistent. Also if it's just that I'm not "relationship" worthy that I guess no one is cause he hasn't even had anyone with the girlfriend label since his junior year of high school. This isn't some guy this is some guy I know better than anyone else I've even called him out for that and his friends have asked him is that right? And he's like yeah actually she really does know me that well. I'm not exactly bad looking. I'm a promotional model (jack Daniels, Cuervo, crown girl), I'm contracted with Wilhelmina, I bartend, and I'm about to graduate and go into dental school. I can understand his motives to the scorpio part and I'm all at a loss. Leos do everything differently. I don't understand the disappearing acts. I don't understand the mind games. But he is a scorpio to the definition. So I'm trying to not use how I see it and try to understand why a scorpio does things.
Sorry it cut off my reply cause quote.
One of the worst fights I've ever had with him was cause he was with one of my friends in a group and she's crying post breakup about how everything changes and I joke good thing you're hanging with this guy cause he's been doing the same thing since high school. And he got furious with me like that was so rude why would I say that why am I so jealous and it was a joke at his expense it had nothing to do with this girl who I would never even be jealous. But earlier that night he had ran into this dude I'm so in love with at a bar who had just moved back and I begged him to tell me where or to tell him to come where I was and he was not even interested in the cause and starts getting mad at me. So my issue is I get called all these names for one innocent wise crack when earlier he is showing symptoms of everything he just yelled at me for. I'm not jealous for making a mean joke to our friends sister that he would never hook up with where neither are even interested. I think he's jealous for gauging me with information on this dude making me flip out and then doing nothing to help me out. His situation seems way more jealous than me and I told him that night so in response he even said "I'll help you out with him and then I never want to hear from you again" and let me tell you I heard from him more that week than I ever have. I think 2 days later he asked to come over and he hung out before and after class. I never brought it up, I just think it's funny that "never speaking to you again" translates to 2 days. I also think it's funny that he never helped me with said guy after he said he would too. Then that day we were getting ready to go out we start talking about some dude I hooked up with recently and he flips out like "I'm not your girlfriend I don't need to know about this" and I felt like well actually you kinda are and I've always told you this stuff but ok. And then he didn't wanna wait for me to change and told me to meet him there even though we were suppose to take one car. But then when we get to the other bar he buys all my drinks and he never does (which has been a thing lately too) and this is just a few day example. And I have like 20 stories like this.

This "relationship" is a hot ass mess. You both are toxic to each other you need to let it go.
FIX IT JESUS!
FIX IT JESUS!

You berated and he dates strippers and slept with some of your friends where the hell is "he the one for you" fit into this... please get out your feelings and focus on yourself. You both should be establishing yourself and figure out where you want to be in life for the next 5 years versus "hooking up" I'm sure you don't want to bartend for the rest of your life I hope you want more for yourself.
moral of the story let all toxic shit GO.
moral of the story let all toxic shit GO.

Posted by LeafofpYou are a very selfish and an abuser
As a scorpio man who has done this friends with benefiys twice for a long time, I think it would be useful to shortly write my experience. The first time I did this it was with a close friend of mine, who became the first woman I had sex with. The sex was mindblowing and she was caring for me. Until now, seven years later and being in a relationship with another guy she is still close and supportive to me. I remember back then that I wanted all the benefits from this situation but didnt want to commit. On the opposite, she wanted a relationship, we were fighting all the time over this and we finally broke up this thing with her having been hurt.
The second time was with a friend of my sister, with whom I had sex one night I was drunk. We kept doing this for a year or more, and she also said she was in love. The sex was also great but I wanted nothing more than this. We were also fighting over being together or not, finally we two never made a couple.
Now, years later, I can understand that having sex with these ladies was, for me, the highest act of caring, making me feel secure in this situation. But I never thought of commiting in something more.
So your story looks familiar to me, and the alcohol you mentioned looks familiar too heh!
Posted by Octoberbaby91
You berated and he dates strippers and slept with some of your friends where the hell is "he the one for you" fit into this... please get out your feelings and focus on yourself. You both should be establishing yourself and figure out where you want to be in life for the next 5 years versus "hooking up" I'm sure you don't want to bartend for the rest of your life I hope you want more for yourself.
moral of the story let all toxic shit GO.
I feel like half of y'all are incapable of actually reading, and are professional skimmers. I said in my post I'm about to graduate and go into dental school so I think I'm doing fine focusing on myself and am not "bartending the rest of my life". GTFO don't put down my current career, I'm making 500 a night. There's nothing berating about that. My head is in straight. I'm not saying that it's a healthy situation but I'm trying to understand his head to reduce the fighting. I could give a fuck either way I'm just trying to figure out what he wants and it does not appear as black and white. Also if you were also reading correctly he had dated my friends in high school before I even knew him and I was introduced when he was talking to one of my close friends 5 years ago when we were 18/19. He would never hook up or sleep with my friends currently. While the boundaries are definitely blurred we definitely respect that much. I'm not looking for relationship advice as I'm looking to understand a scorpio and his mindset to remedy his anger towards me.
Posted by Leafofp
And yes, as october said above, this situation is toxic. Getting out of it will be painful but helpful. When you feel that you can take no more, be the one who will leave. The scorpio will never do this, he will most loke choose the eternal fight...
Thank you for your experience. This was more of the reply I was looking for. I've gotten the vibe that he's incapable of cutting me off it just sucks he can't stick to something I guess. Constant gray area. Regardless I have to move generally soon I'm sure he sees it as a bluff but I'm sure as he'll not staying for him. Actually just left from hanging out with him. His friends say I'm gonna mess his head up and as I've been saying along to he doesn't care enough. That's no excuse to be unreceptive to whatever potential feelings he has but I'll be fine either way. I think ppl in this theard are way to focused on me. I'm trying to understand him and what he might be feeling. I was off crying about other boys in his bed for 3 years before I ever kissed him. I'll survive I just wanna make sure I'm not this mean or evil person he paints when we argue.i just want to understand what he wants since he's so angry lately.
Posted by Leafofp
As a scorpio man who has done this friends with benefiys twice for a long time, I think it would be useful to shortly write my experience. The first time I did this it was with a close friend of mine, who became the first woman I had sex with. The sex was mindblowing and she was caring for me. Until now, seven years later and being in a relationship with another guy she is still close and supportive to me. I remember back then that I wanted all the benefits from this situation but didnt want to commit. On the opposite, she wanted a relationship, we were fighting all the time over this and we finally broke up this thing with her having been hurt.
The second time was with a friend of my sister, with whom I had sex one night I was drunk. We kept doing this for a year or more, and she also said she was in love. The sex was also great but I wanted nothing more than this. We were also fighting over being together or not, finally we two never made a couple.
Now, years later, I can understand that having sex with these ladies was, for me, the highest act of caring, making me feel secure in this situation. But I never thought of commiting in something more.
So your story looks familiar to me, and the alcohol you mentioned looks familiar too heh!

I was not about the read this novel of yours and I meant "bartend" not "berate" anyway you need to figure out what YOU want not what he wants from you. Stop bending over backwards from him "literally" inside and out the bedroom. Great you are in school, bartending is quick money not a career fyi just making sure you are worrying about your future instead of this douchebag you call a friend.
I saw you responding to someone else saying "the response you were looking for" that's your problem you was justification and people to "sugarcoat" for you I gave you straight honesty no chaser if you want to come on here and vent then no one will pacify you and tell you what you want to hear!
your friends with benefits relationship is still toxic and it's no where near "love" but one day you will figure it out and cut ties with this asshole just don't wait till your 30 your twenties pass by quickly.
I saw you responding to someone else saying "the response you were looking for" that's your problem you was justification and people to "sugarcoat" for you I gave you straight honesty no chaser if you want to come on here and vent then no one will pacify you and tell you what you want to hear!
your friends with benefits relationship is still toxic and it's no where near "love" but one day you will figure it out and cut ties with this asshole just don't wait till your 30 your twenties pass by quickly.

I was not about the read this novel of yours and I meant "bartend" not "berate" anyway you need to figure out what YOU want not what he wants from you. Stop bending over backwards from him "literally" inside and out the bedroom. Great you are in school, bartending is quick money not a career fyi just making sure you are worrying about your future instead of this douchebag you call a friend.
I saw you responding to someone else saying "the response you were looking for" that's your problem you was justification and people to "sugarcoat" for you I gave you straight honesty no chaser if you want to come on here and vent then no one will pacify you and tell you what you want to hear!
your friends with benefits relationship is still toxic and it's no where near "love" but one day you will figure it out and cut ties with this asshole just don't wait till your 30 your twenties pass by quickly.
I saw you responding to someone else saying "the response you were looking for" that's your problem you was justification and people to "sugarcoat" for you I gave you straight honesty no chaser if you want to come on here and vent then no one will pacify you and tell you what you want to hear!
your friends with benefits relationship is still toxic and it's no where near "love" but one day you will figure it out and cut ties with this asshole just don't wait till your 30 your twenties pass by quickly.
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