Scorpio-Can't live with them, can't live without?

Good Morning All!

Just a little venting/question post for you. Been seeing the same Scorp guy for 2 years now - With plenty of ups and downs and lots of growing together. It's been a rough road, as he has some baggage. He can't drive due to multiple DUIs a few years back but has cleared up his life. As a result though, he doesn't have the independence of driving anywhere he wants, he's somewhat dependent on me and others. He's finished school and has a great, but seasonal job that doesn't pay a ton of cash. When I met him, he was living with his mom to get back on his feet, but has since moved in with me and contributes to all my expenses and to the house a great deal.

We have plans for the future and he's been a true Scorpio protector, lover, and mate. There isn't a whole lot he wouldn't do for me. It's been pure harmony. As a Cancer, I do take care of my loved ones, usually by cooking for them, but I am a nurturer. I don't smother him (anymore) so no need to tell me I'm doing that. Early on, he had a quick temper that would lead to a few days of silence that I didn't quite understand. That hadn't happened in a long time now, however, it happened again recently.

He packed up all his things at my house and left on Sunday. Since it's happened before, I know he's in a dark mood, perhaps because his work is winding down and he's looking at a long winter. He needs to feel useful and productive and this time of year always brings him down. He typically snaps out of it by now. Of course I panicked Sunday, because it hadn't happened in awhile. I've left him alone for the most part - we've talked on the phone once and he was all crabby, and then yesterday I said nothing to him and he keeps texting me random things. Nothing about seein each other, but random dark thoughts that he's having. It's like he's reaching out but not committing to anything.

When he left, he was in a bout of temper. I'm sure there could have been some unseen slight on my part (which I can't figure what it would be) He said it was over but since then has sent messages about needing time to get his own stuff done (Which he does have time for, I never interfere with that). I love my alone time too and we take plenty of it. From the cryptic messages he's sent, I'm feeling like he's not feeling in control of his life, he's scared of the future and just needs to decompress. He's very sensitive takes everyone's emotions on his back.

He's never been in a relations

He's never been in a relationship like ours. He holds me at night like I'm his prized possession and he's beautifully eloquent when he speaks and his mind is clear. Do I need to be worried? Will he snap out of it this time? The reason I ask is because he left his home, me and my dog whom he loves. I feel like he thinks I'm in the way of his agenda, but we've approached life these past 2 years as partners. I personally think the "move out" was overly dramatic because he left some things here, and in a text he said he flipped out for no reason. Yet he's not making any moves to return. When he's texted, I've responded supportively but not lengthy. He should know I'm here for him so there's no need to bombard him. I guess it is still very frustrating, for a woman and a Cancer. I just hope he comes out of this. In the past, it's been a fabulous reunion, full of explanation and a refreshed spark. I just home he's not playing games after 2 years together.

Irresistable, I'm not quite sure what lead up to it. We had a fabulous weekend. The past weeks have been perfect. He is a moody f*cker at times, especially when he's tired, or has a lot on his mind, but typically a fun loving hug or a good word from me helps clear it up. I'm thinking he's just been keeping a lot to himself - he's been asking me a lot lately about the future, what we're going to do, where we're going to go. He even told me last week that he wouldn't mind if I ever got pregnant! Sunday, he was sick with the cold/flu that's going around here. He was watching football and was pretty miserable. He sorta snapped at me when I asked a question, and I decided to leave to go help my mom color her hair. I was gone for an hour and when I got back he was packing his stuff.

Back in the booze maybe? Multiple dui's is why I ask. "Multiple" signifies addiction, how long has he been sober? I'd be keeping that on a backburner and making sure it doesn't come into your relationship. If it does, your hands will be very full.

One other note, make sure your practice birth control until you know for sure he remains sober. Getting pregnant is not going to help HIM or a drinking problem.

I instantly sense he's looking for someone to put up with it and if he knocks you up, it adds an anchor to make sure you will.

*to put up with him

Irresistable, why do you say that? I'm curious. He's still communicating, just asking me for time to himself. LetItB, no, not an issue, it's been 3 years.

Oh lord, no, not getting pregnant and certainly on BC, have been for awhile. He's got excellent character, trust me. He's not a lowlife at all, he's very smart, and has been making great decisions. He wouldn't want an anchor, he fights dependency, that's why I think this is happening. He hates the fact that he can't drive himself (he will be able to again in April)and he hates not having the freedom he needs. He seems to be in a dark mood now, but he's very honest and very forthright. I don't doubt his intentions at all.

He can be highly impulsive, most of the time in a fun way, but when he's upset or worked up over something, it can be negative. Most times it subsides, but I know that his work has been weighing heavily on his mind lately. Sunday he was sick and feeling miserable and ornery. He's said he flipped out for no reason. I still feel like he's feeling unaccomplished and not looking forward to being off work. He said that on the phone yesterday. He sounded frantic and frazzled. Most times we work through stuff together but I know he needs solitude sometimes. Typically he does this by hunting and fishing but he hasn't been able to recently. He knows he hurt me and he knows he made an ass of himself, and sometimes that's enough to keep him away for a bit.

I'm not sure that there is anything that would make him feel he needed to move his stuff out. He didn't take everything. Normally he would go for a walk or something. He loves it here, calls it home, and has invested a lot of time in improving it, etc. I do have a roommate that is thinking of moving out in March with her new boyfriend, which would increase our shares of rent, and I know he's panicking because of work and general feelings of inadequacy. I keep telling him that we can do it all together, but I think he needs to feel that he can do things himself first. Nothing has happened that would make him feel like he needs to bolt. I think that was just impulsive and dramatic. He still left stuff here.

LOL Rabbit! Thanks for your perspective. My heart tells me exactly what you are saying. It's just very hard because we are so close. I know they say Scorps don't show their feelings, but he's become very good at that. I would think that if he were gone he wouldn't be contacting me, no matter how cryptic the messages are. He's still reaching out to me in some way. I get in my dark moods too, hell I'm a cancer and a female, but I am typically pretty good at keeping it in it's shell and processing internally while keeping a happy face on the outside. On the occasions that I do crumble, I'm a sobbing mess and he's always been there to hold me while I get it all out.

Posted by CaringCancer
Oh lord, no, not getting pregnant and certainly on BC, have been for awhile. He's got excellent character, trust me. He's not a lowlife at all, he's very smart, and has been making great decisions. He wouldn't want an anchor, he fights dependency, that's why I think this is happening. He hates the fact that he can't drive himself (he will be able to again in April)and he hates not having the freedom he needs. He seems to be in a dark mood now, but he's very honest and very forthright. I don't doubt his intentions at all.

Never said anything about character, being a lowlife, etc...I asked a simple question and possibility that you avoided. That alone speaks volumes.

Posted by CaringCancer
He should know I'm here for him so there's no need to bombard him. I guess it is still very frustrating, for a woman and a Cancer. I just hope he comes out of this. In the past, it's been a fabulous reunion, full of explanation and a refreshed spark. I just home he's not playing games after 2 years together.

A simple statement to reassure someone is not the same as bombarding someone. I guess I should read the rest, but I'll ask anyway. Your frustration, is it with this recent move and his vague responses or him as a partner overall?

Posted by CaringCancer
He sorta snapped at me when I asked a question, and I decided to leave to go help my mom color her hair. I was gone for an hour and when I got back he was packing his stuff.

What was the question?

Posted by CaringCancer
I'm thinking he's just been keeping a lot to himself - he's been asking me a lot lately about the future, what we're going to do, where we're going to go.... He sorta snapped at me when I asked a question, and I decided to leave to go help my mom color her hair. I was gone for an hour and when I got back he was packing his stuff.

Okay, last question. When he was saying all of this, what was your response/answer? I agree with Pineapples, impulsive or not, his decison to leave was something he may have been thinking about for a while.

Posted by CaringCancer
I'm not sure that there is anything that would make him feel he needed to move his stuff out. He didn't take everything. Normally he would go for a walk or something. He loves it here, calls it home, and has invested a lot of time in improving it, etc. I do have a roommate that is thinking of moving out in March with her new boyfriend, which would increase our shares of rent, and I know he's panicking because of work and general feelings of inadequacy. I keep telling him that we can do it all together, but I think he needs to feel that he can do things himself first.

This is why I asked the question above.

Hey all - The question was "How are you feeling?" He was sick. He didn't reply. I asked jokingly, "Is your throat too sore to talk?" He grumbled and I could tell he was in a foul mood. I don't get it when we woke up and had coffee together and he was all snuggly and sweet but just generally sick and miserable.

When we've talked about the future, I've been encouraging and loving. He doesn't make a ton of money now since he doesn't have driving freedoms but he makes money. He's afraid he'll never be able to support himself. I've always told him we can do it together. He's left before because he feels too dependent on me, stays in a funk for a few days, but always comes back. Even in little tiffs he's calm after a little while, like Rabbit says. We talked this morning and his head's a mess. He's so worried about never being able to support himself and now he won't be working. Just last week he was holding me before bed and telling me how much he loves me. That he can't imagine life without me and that he's so happy he found me.

Zodiac in degrees 0.00

Placidus Orb:0

Sun Scorpio 19.16 Ascendant Scorpio 10.21
Moon Sagittarius 29.53 II Sagittarius 9.25
Mercury Scorpio 4.04 R III Capricorn 13.36
Venus Libra 14.37 IV Aquarius 20.06
Mars Sagittarius 22.04 V Pisces 22.49
Jupiter Libra 2.51 VI Aries 19.14
Saturn Libra 5.58 VII Taurus 10.21
Uranus Scorpio 25.28 VIII Gemini 9.25
Neptune Sagittarius 21.13 IX Cancer 13.36
Pluto Libra 22.47 Midheaven Leo 20.06
Lilith Libra 24.39 XI Virgo 22.49
Asc node Leo 14.54 XII Libra 19.14




Aspects

The following table shows the planetary aspects in your natal chart. Short interpretations are found below.





Planet

Aspect

Planet

Orb/Value

Sun Conjunction Uranus 6.12 198
Sun Conjunction Ascendant 8.55 43
Sun Square Midheaven 0.50 -86
Moon Conjunction Mars 7.49 39
Moon Square Jupiter 2.58 -71
Moon Conjunction Neptune 8.39 59
Mercury Conjunction Ascendant 6.17 119
Venus Conjunction Saturn 8.38 117
Venus Conjunction Pluto 8.11 88
Mars Conjunction Neptune 0.51 293
Mars Sextile Pluto 0.43 115
Mars Trine Midheaven 1.58 45
Jupiter Conjunction Saturn 3.07 322
Uranus Square Midheaven 5.22 -3
Neptune Sextile Pluto 1.34 36
Neptune Trine Midheaven 1.08 17
Pluto Sextile Midheaven 2.42 7
1498 -160 1338



Asteroids & Chiron

The following table shows the positions of the four major asteroids and Chiron. These points are not as commonly used by astrologers, but are presented here for those interested in knowing where the asteroids are positioned in their birth chart. Please note that the positions for "Fortune" and "South node" default to 0 Aries and are not currently working. To determine your South Node, look to the Asc Node above and change the sign to the opposite sign (Aries to Libra, for example), as the South Node is always opposite the North Node (Asc Node).


Chiron Taurus 15.46 R
Ceres Cancer 27.21
Pallas Aries 18.32 R
Juno Libra 16.19
Vesta Virgo 2.23
Fortune Aries 0.00
South node Aries 0.00