Scorpio male troubles

Hello all!

I am a cancer woman and i am trying to understand a scorpio male.

We met during a city trip in Valencia (Spain) one evening on a terras. He is Italian -hot- and I am Belgian -cold-. He started talking to me and his first thought about me was: "ice woman" (althoug I find myself to be very friendly lol). We continued talking and at a certain point (out of the blue) he even kissed me, held my hand and kissed my hair. He did not want to let go of me, but I stayed for another day and he had to leave. We got eachother's number and stayed in touch.

The following weeks he wanted to know everything about me (where I was, what I did, who I was with,...) and he wanted to see me as soon as possible. Conversations got very intense, very quickly. He was already making plans etc. Unlike the men I know he loves culture, has an opinion, he knows what he wants in life, he works hard.. Now I am a cancer, and I did not mind the intensity, but sometimes I felt that he really wanted to stay in control of things, used a little manipulation here and there and we even argued about certain things. He is also a police officer (not surprised) which kind of underlines his natural charachteristics 🙂 He did not want me to go out with other male friends, ... (culture difference?!)

Anyway, I noticed that some days he would not react. When I asked him about that and pointed out that I would not put up with that, he always had his reasons (very difficult work schedule -24 h-, he had a skin condition because of the stress, had to go to the hospital because of that, he called me and I did not pick up the phone, etc...). So he got twice as mad as me .. and that was the end of it. This happened two times and the last time we spoke we were ok, and he promised to write me the day after. Didn't get anything, so I was done. Threw him of facebook, left him a long message on whatsapp and .........nothing?! No reaction at all.

It is the first scorpio-male I have met and I think it is really sad to be left out like this. Is he mad, is he pokerfacing, is he bored, is he testing me, do I need to initiate contact? I AM TOTALLY CONFUSED. I literally wrote to him: just write the following and I will do so: LEAVE ME ALONE!!
Him: "I am tired now, my eyes are closing, I will talk to you tomorrow..."
Me: "That is not fair"
Him: "I know"

So ok... his turn to initiate contact.. Two days without any response. Third day: "Mini—?" + ..."other subject"

x-)

NOW ... I've dealt with an aqua-ex in the past and when things got too bad, I totally ignored him and refused contact. It worked, one year later he fell down on his knees and begged me to come back. Now how sad is THAT? Why do people alway have to play games? 🙂

Anyway if this is one bad bad scorpio I hope I get to meet a good one in the future, because I am very intrigued! 🙂

My thought about most men is ALWAYS: "he's probably just playing games". I am not an easy woman (cancershell, ...ice woman!!) and I refuse to hunt down a man (not my job) but why put in SO MUCH EFFORT, CONTROL, DRAMA, etc... to suddenly just stop all contact? I JUST DO NOT UNDERSTAND.

holy shit cancimini, youre still alive! 😄

*memories of Caturdays back in the days..*

Very greatful for the reaction so far! 🙂

@IrresistableScorp: SO TRUE and lol @ "Add on top of that the Italian fiery personality??_*tilts head*
"

It is very dual, because part of me believes he does not give a damn, yet the other part of me thinks the opposite

His chart:


Zodiac in degrees 0.00 Time unknown
Sun Scorpio 26.49
Moon Gemini 29.07
Mercury Scorpio 13.54 R
Venus Scorpio 5.49 R
Mars Aquarius 25.33
Jupiter Pisces 13.11
Saturn Sagittarius 10.25
Uranus Sagittarius 21.04
Neptune Capricorn 4.10
Pluto Scorpio 8.05
Lilith Gemini 29.37
Asc node Aries 20.14

@ BSB .... i SO remember!

http://pictures.mastermarf.com/blog/2008/080412-surprise-caturday.jpg<BR>

My birth chart:

MV Sex F
Aalst 0 Belgium 24/06/1984 14:30 - Julian day 2445876.02
Adjust -2.00 ST 6.58 Lat 50.56 Long -4.02

Zodiac in degrees 0.00 Placidus Orb:0
Sun Cancer 3.10 Ascendant Libra 10.13
Moon Taurus 7.06 II Scorpio 5.30
Mercury Cancer 4.56 III Sagittarius 6.43
Venus Cancer 5.32 IV Capricorn 13.14
Mars Scorpio 11.51 V Aquarius 18.26
Jupiter Caprico 8.44 R VI Pisces 17.25
Saturn Scorpio 9.59 R VII Aries 10.13
Uranus Sagittar10.40 R VIII Taurus 5.30
Neptune Sagittar29.58 R IX Gemini 6.43
Pluto Libra 29.23 R Midheaven Cancer 13.14
Lilith Pisces 21.49 XI Leo 18.26
Asc node Gemini 6.29 XII Virgo 17.25

Wow, that is quite the chart.

It is too early to tell if he is good or bad but this confusion may be a precursor to what's to become the norm in your relationship with him ....

*** "I refuse to hunt down a man (not my job) but why put in SO MUCH EFFORT, CONTROL, DRAMA, etc... to suddenly just stop all contact? I JUST DO NOT UNDERSTAND" ***

Posted by cancimini he always had his reasons (very difficult work schedule -24 h-, he had a skin condition because of the stress, had to go to the hospital because of that, he called me and I did not pick up the phone, etc...). So he got twice as mad as me .. and that was the end of it.

I'm a Scorpio and I'm Italian. ^^^That right there doomed you. He confirmed you are an ice queen and is done with you. You are too immature to be in a relationship with anyone, your actions/inactions and behavior shows it.

the "ice queen" quote was something that was meant to be funny (he wanted to tease me) and was also one of the first things he said to me.. to have me open up to him. Which I did.

I was always respectful, I always replied when he contacted me, when there was a problem or a misunderstanding I told him to get things straight.

He went on a vacation he had planned months before. No problem there! I wrote to him and he did not answer me the same day.. Hey, he's on a vacation... still no problem. WHEN he wrote me on the otherhand he expected an answer almost immediately. I am very considerate and most certainly not immature in a relationship, nore a pushover.

Thanks! 🙂

Anyway.. maybe it is a difference in culture. And maybe I have underestimated that. It is like we both want and need the same things, yet we have a totally different approach and experience throughout the years...

Maybe he needs me to show how much I care EXPLICITLY again and again and again, whereas in "my culture" that is a certain NO GO. This is frustrating. It would be a shame if a relationship (of any sort) turns out this bad because of a stupid misunderstanding.

I respect who he is as a man. He's not the easiest, but I wouldn't even want that and it is part of the attraction and vice versa.

What bothers me is that I practically BEG him to tell me explicitly he does not want to continue contact. That would be harsh and direct, but at least you know where you stand ...and he doesn't. He avoids it everytime.

@ IrresistableScorp: "The worst part about Water pairings is the dance that can go on for seemingly forever if someone doesn't nip it in the bud. "

H?las, I plead guilty 😉

Posted by Reincarnation
A lot of bad advice here.

Make him chase you again. Be ultra feminine and devoted to him. Scorp men are extreme, so be extreme in your devotion to him.

+1

Thank you for all the responses! I do not know what to do just yet. In the end... everyone has a different background and although I thought we were on to a difficult but interesting start, things ended kind of abruptly. I have been reading about astrology ever since I was TEN (Linda Goodman - Love signs) and I was always immensely curious about the scorpio male. Never had the luck to actually get to know one (bad karma 🙂 ) so I am a bit gutted now. But we'll see what happens I guess!

Posted by Shruikan

Posted by Reincarnation
A lot of bad advice here.

Make him chase you again. Be ultra feminine and devoted to him. Scorp men are extreme, so be extreme in your devotion to him.

+1

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Yup!

Sometimes people focus too much on astrology and forget about the differences between male and female regarding dating and relationships.

I read your first post and thought 'whoa!!'

I'm Scorp with Scorp venus (female) and we do have a habit of going 'all in' very intensely and quickly. This isn't always a good thing for us to do.

Remember, he's a man. Try reading a few websites like:

http://www.anewmode.com

https://askmarsvenus.com/Article.php?id=330<BR>
http://www.aphroditeastrology.com/2012/06/disappearing-reappearing-man-what-to-do.html?m=1<BR>
For a difference perspective along with astrology.

Apologies but my post isn't meant to be patronising. Many years ago I had a relationship with an Egyptian man, Aquarius with Scorp rising. He was very intense! It didn't last for various reasons, his culture mainly but also he was too 'in my face' all the time wanting this and that, wanting attention like a child, nothing I did was good enough as he'd always move the goal posts etc. I'm not saying that's what is happening here but some of the controlling or game playing I read reminded me of him!

AgentP911, thanks for your response, also very helpfull! ... I'm afraid he's kind of the same way. I'm attracted to the intensity, but I do not want to feel pushed, and when I refuse to follow his rules all the time, punished like a little child to get me to surrender.

Posted by Whatu
That Gemini moon loves playing games

Really?

First of all thanks for all the comments!

Secondly: I was going through our text messages on facebook and the dumbest thing happened, I pressed the "thumbs up"-button by accident.... I swear to god... I could've just killed myself then and there!!!! 😄 that's murphy for ya! Apparently one hour later I got: "?" I didn't "read" (what's there to read?!) the "message" untill 6.30 AM the next morning. I replied that it was meant for my colleague because he was going to stand in for me in court at a hearing and that he had texted me. So what followed? (Though immediately after my message) Eeeerrr...:

- HIM: Ok, how are you?
- ME: (I thougt I'd keep it "light") Bad since vacation is over 🙂
- HIM: I know, "and other"? (immediately after my response)
- ME: Nothing, I am doing fine. How are you and how is your back?

Aaaaaand that was the end of it 🙂 I just felt obliged to share this awkward moment, also because it is funny in a ridiculous way 😄

Anyway I hope he's doing fine and I wish him all the best!

Rule number one.
Never trust an Italian man.

Rule number two.
Never trust a Turkish man.

These men are on holidays are dear, a passing romance and as you might have five, smoothies are nothing to do with "unspeakable" Belgian men. hahaha

Rule number three and final.

Actually men and women are very different, they will never have the pace and female rush.

Best ... Never trust any man :-)

Rule four and definitive:-)

Just as the woman has to stop them, usually do not.

Terrible mistake.

They see what they do ...

Hahaha

World is crazy right?