PhoenixRising
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Scorpio Players
Posted by aquansidenout
And even after some find "the good girl". They still roam but only sexually because emotionally the good girl has his. Heart.
Hmm.
I thought Scorpio was known as one of the most faithful signs, once someone "has his heart."
"he replied we can be friends and still have sex" = FWB Is this what YOU want?
Posted by Taylor9771
You are right, I'm interested in something more with him. However, when he first came onto me, I initially rejected him because at the time, I thought I wanted a serious relationship. I was very upfront and said I wanted a family and I was looking to settle down. He said to me "why can't you just play with me until you find that other person." It took him a few weeks to get me to tentatively agree to play with him. He is also known as a player, and he travels constantly with his job, so obviously this affords him many opportunities. The last night I saw him, i was trying to convince him that we are better as friends, to which he replied we can be friends and still have sex. As much as I'd like to think that maybe he's allowing himself to think of me as potentially something more , the practical side of me (and my older brother) is telling me he is only playing. It's hard to believe he'd be saying what he does if he wanted something else. I really didn't mean to imply that all scorpions are players! But i do think that this guy is a scorpion who happens to be a player.
Okay. The OP makes more sense to me now. I didn't think you meant all Scorps are players at all. I was just trying to connect your reason for the thread with what you actually wrote. You Crabs can be so vague.... (not a critique, just an observation--I get it). So you thought you wanted a serious relationship, were upfront about what you wanted, yet——? I can see your concern, he has basically convinced you to enter a FWB and now you're looking for evidence that he wants more because you realize you do want more. Well, if you do, say so and see what he wants, but I think you already know the answer. I don't think you will get what you are looking for from this man.
Posted by Taylor9771Posted by pathfinder
"he replied we can be friends and still have sex" = FWB Is this what YOU want?
obviously not.click to expand
You have your answer. In your life, it's not about what he wants. It's about what you want.
Posted by geminicandlelightPosted by MontgomeryPosted by aquansidenout
And even after some find "the good girl". They still roam but only sexually because emotionally the good girl has his. Heart.
Hmm.
I thought Scorpio was known as one of the most faithful signs, once someone "has his heart."
Scorpio or not, they are still men. I have a Scorpio friend who is in an open relationship with few women, he says it's possible to love few women at a time...click to expand
lol-- yes, they are still men--that's true. 😉
But an open relationship (mutually agreed upon) is just that-- open; there is no deception in seeing other women.
(Unless I misunderstood your meaning?)
I was speaking of an exclusive relationship-- I've always heard that as a rule, Scorps are pretty loyal/faithful, and the wording--
"And even after some find "the good girl". They still roam..."
-- made it sound otherwise.
Posted by Taylor9771
PhoenixRising: I dont't mean to be vague, I was just trying to be brief. I wanted avoid writing a book for my first post 🙂 so tell me for future reference, would a scorpio ever go from fwb to a relationship? I do feel a connection wirh him, but at the end of the day, he's not serious. I could go on and on about all of the mixed signals I get from him, and that is what has me so confused.
LOL, okay I can appreciate the cliff notes version. I will be honest, I don't know. I don't think anyone here knows for sure either. The only person that does know is the guy. I'm sure people will give you their opinions based on their experience, what they've read, heard, seen, etc., but at the end of the day it is still just an opinion. I'm not saying you should disregard the advice you have been given. I am only pointing out that these are our opinions. I have seen FWB turn into a LT relationship and I have seen it end in drama. One outcome vs another has a lot to do with the people and the circumstances in their lives when they enter the situation.
What you do know for sure is what he has told you.
Posted by Taylor9771
I was very upfront and said I wanted a family and I was looking to settle down. He said to me "why can't you just play with me until you find that other person." It took him a few weeks to get me to tentatively agree to play with him. He is also known as a player, and he travels constantly with his job, so obviously this affords him many opportunities. The last night I saw him, i was trying to convince him that we are better as friends, to which he replied we can be friends and still have sex... It's hard to believe he'd be saying what he does if he wanted something else.click to expand
^^^^con't
If the things he is saying don't work for you, call him on it. Tell him you want more. See what he says. It seems to me like you're hearing his words and hoping he doesn't really mean them because his actions are giving you mix signals. I say go with what the man says. You even say above "at the end of the day, he's not serious". Okay, you have your answer.
I think the heart of the matter here is you wanted one thing and he "convinced you" (how did this happen btw?) to engage in something you did not really want. Why?
Many people make the mistake of entering a relationship not being entirely honest with themselves about what it is they want, then flip the script without communicating this to the other person and then they try to make it more. My question to you, why are you anticipating/seeking another FWB relationship if that isn't what you really want?
If the things he is saying don't work for you, call him on it. Tell him you want more. See what he says. It seems to me like you're hearing his words and hoping he doesn't really mean them because his actions are giving you mix signals. I say go with what the man says. You even say above "at the end of the day, he's not serious". Okay, you have your answer.
I think the heart of the matter here is you wanted one thing and he "convinced you" (how did this happen btw?) to engage in something you did not really want. Why?
Many people make the mistake of entering a relationship not being entirely honest with themselves about what it is they want, then flip the script without communicating this to the other person and then they try to make it more. My question to you, why are you anticipating/seeking another FWB relationship if that isn't what you really want?
Posted by PhoenixRising
^ My question to you, why are you anticipating/seeking another FWB relationship if that isn't what you really want?
^^^^This last question is in response to what you asked me in your post.
Posted by Taylor9771
All that to say, I think I allowed the "fun" relationship with Scorpio to begin because I was still reeling from what happened 6 months before, I think I was craving an intense intimacy, and I wanted to try something new, because clearly whatever I had been doing before didn't work.
I am going to assume ^^^this is in reference to the fact that your bf cheated? Why are you owning his garbage? Just because he cheated doesn't mean you did something wrong. It also doesn't mean you have to do a 180 and go from wanting a relationship to accepting FWB. I am not saying that a person can't have fun and that every relationship they enter needs to be a LT one. That isn't the issue. The issue is this FWB was not what you wanted, but you convinced yourself you could do it. Now this is becoming an issue for you and this Scorp.
Anyway, if you are so daring ask him if he wants to make this thing serious to see if he also wants more. All this guessing won't get you too far. If he doesn't, then the balls in your court. You can remain as you are or move on, but don't stay because you think he will change in time if a relationship is what you want right now. Another option (if the sex is that good) is to see him while dating other men. Since he is just a FWB, you don't have any obligations to this guy. Why not date and find someone that does want a commitment?
Posted by aquansidenout
Scorpio men settle down with women they think are pure.
wow, very interesting. never thought of it that way but makes sense.
Posted by aquansidenout
Scorpio men settle down with women they think are pure. If they think you're not they will play with you until Ms. Purity comes along. And even after some find "the good girl". They still roam but only sexually because emotionally the good girl has his. Heart. LOTS of experience with these men.
It seems like sometimes.
Posted by Sag89Posted by aquansidenout
Scorpio men settle down with women they think are pure. If they think you're not they will play with you until Ms. Purity comes along. And even after some find "the good girl". They still roam but only sexually because emotionally the good girl has his. Heart. LOTS of experience with these men.
It seems like sometimes.click to expand
yes. i would agree with all of this except for the part that they'll still roam. i dont doubt that some do, but many that I know value faithfulness given and received.
OP, I would put it out on the table. Always stay true to your feelings. But just to warn you, I think you already know your answer. Fortunately, there are many others out there that you'll have just as strong, if not a stronger connection with.
Also, since you know yourself and you know your feelings will grow stronger the longer this plays out... act sooner.
So you thought you wanted a serious relationship, were upfront about what you wanted, yet——? I can see your concern, he has basically convinced you to enter a FWB and now you're looking for evidence that he wants more because you realize you do want more. Well, if you do, say so and see what he wants.
There are times when confused Scorpio's say they want FWB because they want to test waters and see how things go before getting into a relationship.
This may or may not be the case with your man.
Scorpio men appreciate straightforwardness so your best bet is to ask him upfront what he wants.
With that said, I haven't met a Scorp man yet who didn't also appreciate a devilish streak in his woman.
1+ 🙂😉
Posted by xxnightbynightPosted by MissGummyshoePosted by MissGummyshoePosted by Taylor9771
What would a scorpio consider pure? I think most guys, regardless of sign, look for a "pure" woman when they are looking to settle down. Do scorps have a different criteria or something?
Pure of heart.
With that said, I haven't met a Scorp man yet who didn't also appreciate a devilish streak in his woman.
a nice little balance. 😉click to expand
yes. yes. yes indeed.
miners for a heart of gold. which doesnt mean you cant still be wild at heart.
I've seen this sort of attraction in scorp guys. I know for myself and my ex, when he and i first met, he loved the animal side of me that's fun and creative and he also cherished the consistency in my heart, feeling one way always and all actions backing it up. he's never said it straight forward himself, but over time and in so many words, I know it all adds up to this. He loved my loyalty (he may still actually) and loves my thirst to be on another level or play far beyond the perimeter of the sand box. When we were together, he was usually right there next to me. Unless I'd passed him up and he was trying to reel me back in. lol!
hrmph. that punk.
^^^ i really think so. it always depends on the manner of separation, but it seems like you two have a great rapport and i'll bet he'll want to remain friends. he's a guy. he's a scorp. he likes to chase. i have a feeling he'll always want to leave the door open for fwbs with you. but just keep that in mind. unless he says and displays otherwise... that'll be his game.
Posted by Taylor9771
Ok so when I break it off with my scorp, can I expect that he will want to stay friends? I usually just do the cold turkey thing, but I occasionally see him at work and I don't want anything to be awkward.
"Friends" as in the true definition of the word, no.
"Friends" as in leave the door open for FWB, maybe. He may not think it's worth the effort.
If he genuinely liked you, probably not. He'll want to cut all ties cold turkey as well.
In either case, it doesn't matter what he wants. Do what you need to do for you. Being cordial is not same as being "friends".
Scorpios never really let go of any of their ex's beware of that. Doesn't matter how bad she did him, if the opportunity arises he'll probably chat with her, sleep with her idk... but I've had experience with this sign and best believe he'll have some interest, it is a water sign after all and although in a different way they are stuck in the past just with ex's. Some of the females also can't let go or shake their ex, but its more of the males to be possessive or hurt 10 years later over what their ex did. I feel like a lot of them go through woman after woman, and run through many relationships because they still hold a lot of baggage from their past.
And yes Scorpio and Cancer can be a phenomenal match, out of this world chemistry, and if you let it, it can go on forever I say you because Scorpio will most likely not break up, or initiate a break, it's usually the Cancer with good reason to do that.. and with that said I think Cancer is too good for the Scorpio. Especially an October Scorpio man is going to be more difficult,and unevolved than a November one usually. Scorpio men can and will be unfaithful no matter how harmonious, its a selfish desire to have it all. They may not even do it physically but emotionally, some just to test the limits or boundaries of seeing if you'll stay. Now they may not love, or even care for these other women but I just say it probably will happen anyway. They're not the faithful or loyal men the zodiac perceives them to be. Well to their family and friends they are most loyal to but definitely not wives or girlfriends.
And yes Scorpio and Cancer can be a phenomenal match, out of this world chemistry, and if you let it, it can go on forever I say you because Scorpio will most likely not break up, or initiate a break, it's usually the Cancer with good reason to do that.. and with that said I think Cancer is too good for the Scorpio. Especially an October Scorpio man is going to be more difficult,and unevolved than a November one usually. Scorpio men can and will be unfaithful no matter how harmonious, its a selfish desire to have it all. They may not even do it physically but emotionally, some just to test the limits or boundaries of seeing if you'll stay. Now they may not love, or even care for these other women but I just say it probably will happen anyway. They're not the faithful or loyal men the zodiac perceives them to be. Well to their family and friends they are most loyal to but definitely not wives or girlfriends.
Cancer can be everything they want,need, and more, from the emotional to the physical and reach them in ways other signs never can. But like I said Cancer is too good for Scorpio, Scorpio will take it for granted and they do that with every other sign as well... and will still look for greener grass, or might have a thought they can do better when they've got the best of the best. This is the unevolved I'm speaking of, but its general as well because there are rarely many evolved Scorpions. I don't know about the scores? Yeah all that ex stuff sounds familiar it doesn't matter if its a Cap or Gemini, 1 year or 10... they will hold on for dear life. It's part of them being a water sign, people can call us weak but in one way or another Scorpio is still a water sign and will have a trait or similarity to us Cancers, they just may express it differently. They are a master of hiding their emotions, so only the closest people to them may see the vulnerability and sensitivity. I wouldn't even for sure say he wants the ex back, but they like to reminisce back on what used to be. I think it's especially difficult for them when someone breaks up with them first, before they're ready to let go. I usually don't hear of a relationship ending w/ Scorpio because he broke up. Usually the woman let it go. But they will always appear and come back as long as they can, as long as the doors open. So expect that especially if the relationship didn't end from cheating,or deceit on your part. But even so, they are more forgiving than the zodiac claims. They can still pine from far away over the ex who did even that to them. Hurt and all.
As a Cancer, I agree I have cut people off and never looked back. I may wonder about that person but usually I kill the feelings and any residuals left over from the person whether tangible or not go away as well. I ignore the person like they don't exist and go on about my life, as cold as it sounds an EX is an EX for a reason. Now it doesn't all have to be that way but I learned for myself its best to be that way. Cancer is not a weak sign at all. Most of us Cancers will be figuring out a plan and digging ourselves out of a hole or bad situation while other signs can be crying,whining, or not knowing what to do.
Posted by Taylor9771
You are right, I'm interested in something more with him. However, when he first came onto me, I initially rejected him because at the time, I thought I wanted a serious relationship. I was very upfront and said I wanted a family and I was looking to settle down. He said to me "why can't you just play with me until you find that other person." It took him a few weeks to get me to tentatively agree to play with him. He is also known as a player, and he travels constantly with his job, so obviously this affords him many opportunities. The last night I saw him, i was trying to convince him that we are better as friends, to which he replied we can be friends and still have sex. As much as I'd like to think that maybe he's allowing himself to think of me as potentially something more, the practical side of me (and my older brother) is telling me he is only playing. It's hard to believe he'd be saying what he does if he wanted something else. I really didn't mean to imply that all scorpions are players! But i do think that this guy is a scorpion who happens to be a player.
Well it took only a few posts to see the true colors here. He's been up front with you and direct. What part of he just wants to screw you and nothing more do you not understand? Why make it sound like he's the problem? He's clear on what he wants..you aren't. Pick one and move on.
"I think you are SO right....cancer is too good for scorpio! Do I really qualify as an ex if we were basically just fwb?"
"I love how everyone says crabs are so weak, but it seems like crabs can cut people out of their lives with more skill and precision than some of these stone cold scores can."
How did you come up with Cancer being too good for Scorpio? Because you CHOSE to be just a FWB and then changed your mind? Take responsibility for your choices. He told you from day one what you were going to be and you obliged. I love Cancers, but if you want to talk about "weak" it's ANYONE who can't accept the truth for what it is and instead tries to twist things all up to make themselves look innocent. Let's take another look at your first words on this thread again shall we?
"I'm currently playing with a scorp guy"
Don't bash the guy because he's being honest. That's really weak.
"I love how everyone says crabs are so weak, but it seems like crabs can cut people out of their lives with more skill and precision than some of these stone cold scores can."
How did you come up with Cancer being too good for Scorpio? Because you CHOSE to be just a FWB and then changed your mind? Take responsibility for your choices. He told you from day one what you were going to be and you obliged. I love Cancers, but if you want to talk about "weak" it's ANYONE who can't accept the truth for what it is and instead tries to twist things all up to make themselves look innocent. Let's take another look at your first words on this thread again shall we?
"I'm currently playing with a scorp guy"
Don't bash the guy because he's being honest. That's really weak.
Posted by LetltB
How did you come up with Cancer being too good for Scorpio?
I was gonna ask the same thing, but eh, I can already see what this is about. Pretty spot on with all the other stuff you posted LIB.
Posted by LetltB
Don't bash the guy because he's being honest. That's really weak.click to expand
+1
Wow this has been quite the story. I went through sometimes like this and still talk to the scorp I had this experience with. It's tough I know, but stay strong.
I've gotten to the point where the scorp and I just go back and forth with joking and "mind games" if you can call them that. Nothing sexual, but it can get flirtatious. For me it's just stimulating and fun for my brain. I've been at a period of boredom so messing with each other is a welcomed remedy. Only thing neither of us delve into is the possibility of something more. I know that if he wanted something more he would pursue it and I am content with what we have right now. Adding sex to the mix, for me, making things muddled and puts me in a weak position. Keeping it at just talking leaves something to be desired and no one gets hurt because it's all we want.
Lol sorry for babbling. That's my experience right now and it reminded me of yours.
I've gotten to the point where the scorp and I just go back and forth with joking and "mind games" if you can call them that. Nothing sexual, but it can get flirtatious. For me it's just stimulating and fun for my brain. I've been at a period of boredom so messing with each other is a welcomed remedy. Only thing neither of us delve into is the possibility of something more. I know that if he wanted something more he would pursue it and I am content with what we have right now. Adding sex to the mix, for me, making things muddled and puts me in a weak position. Keeping it at just talking leaves something to be desired and no one gets hurt because it's all we want.
Lol sorry for babbling. That's my experience right now and it reminded me of yours.
They are stinkers those scorps, always sucking you in. And they know when they have that power. And you're welcome. Hope the situation clears up for you
Posted by Taylor9771
Ok so he still has an item of mine I accidentally left in his room. He said he'd mail it back Monday, I haven't received it back, so I texted him about it. He said he still has it, will mail it tomorrow. We've had a few friendly texts in between. This isn't some kind of dumb game is it?
What do you mean by game? Cus he kept your item an extra day?
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