The Irony: New Scorp out, Old Scorp in

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Over the weekend, I reached out to a Scorp male that I had started dating about two years ago. Without getting into too many details, it fell apart about as fast as it started. I had hurt him very badly without meaning to. I learned very quickly what the terms iced out, and MIA meant. For the next 1.5 years, we occassionally would text when he finally came out of hiding.

This past July, I had enough of his coming in and out of my life, and felt like he had given me a payback sting. I sent a text and told him I was done, I was no longer his toy or someone to play games with or mind fuck. I saw him about a month later, and ignored him. Over the weekend, coming into the new year and reflecting much in my life, one of my biggest regrets was all of this with him, how it fell apart. I reached out to him, and very luckily I heard back. My heart skipped a beat. He invited me to come and see him since he was in his area, and I was able to see him last night. Although he was with others, it was like no time had passed since I seen him earlier this summer, before I sent my stay out of my life text.

Although we didn't do anything sexual, we did hold one another and kissed. Something I had only dreamed would happen again, and wanted to hold onto that moment forever. I didn't want to let go. I'm not sure how long he is in the area, and asked if he would want to spend New Years Eve if he was. He didn't know if he would be around here that long, and so couldn't give me an answer.

Although I'm not seeing anyone, a friend of mine has reached out in the last two weeks and has been moral support for me. I'm not sure of his intentions, but we have gone out for coffee and dinner a few times. I'm trying hard to change things about myself, so I don't want to right away think something more than there is. Nothing has been defined, and I am clueless if he is looking for us to date as he is single to. He's funny, smart, cute, and we can talk for hours.

I have dreamt of things with Scorp for the last two years. I fought tooth and nail to fix things with he and I, and this could be a new beginning. I DO NOT want to do anything to jeapordize this with him AT ALL. My dilemma is, I'm not dating either. When, how, do I say anything to Scorp about my friend. What if my friend asks me to do something New Years. I realize this is what ifs, but I want to proceed with the best step forward. I've never played the field, but I want to be honest with both.
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Hi O😱

Well this is an interesting story. good for you, I hope it works out. I guess the friend who is offering moral support is a man and you may be interested in him too. Good! You dont owe anyone anything at this point. You're free and single. Just dont like if scorp asks if you are dating.

As for NYE....DONT wait for scorp to call. Its only 3 days away...your life waits for no man. Live it...! Keep us updated.
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No No :S I'm a little perplexed...BGP seemed to get it, however some are almost what seems like a tangent.—?


Anyone who has followed my threads would know what my title meant.... since i started posting here, I was posting about a Scorpio that I met over the summer, who he and my friendship/relationship is no longer in existence as of two weeks ago. If you get bored, go read please.

I have never posted about this Scorpio whom i've known now for two years. The one I reached out to over the holidays.

My friend whom I went out for coffee and dinner with is a Gem. We went out for coffee to catch up, and the next night for dinner since he was in town. People have made comments now that he and I are dating, I on the otherhand didn't look at it like that because we've been friends now for almost 30 years. So I don't know if that's how he is seeing it or not. I wasn't.

I'm not seeing anyone, dating, anything...not screwing, fucking, meeting up behind anyone's backs.

My purpose in all of this is that I don't want to do anything to hurt the Scorp. If you like, I can certainly lay out about a three page novel. Dealing with a Scorpio man, that would lay down the surface of it.

I've never played the field, and I have no clue how. I have no idea if Scorpio wants anything to do with me or not, and that wasn't my intentions when I did wish him a Merry Christmas. It's the holidays, and given our history I wanted him to know I do not hate him. To hear back was a surprise.

As I said going into this thread, without giving too many details on the 1st Scorp.I can say, that Scorpio is no innocent bystander in this. I was protecting myself from being hurt by him because in my mind he was playing games, I ended it with him, he in return accused me of fucking a mutual friend which was a lie. That was two years ago.

Gotta go.
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Posted by BigGirlPanties
Hey Ocean, you KNOW I am dying to know the whole story of this scorp from 2 yrs ago..how he iced you and disappeared. Seeing how thats happened to me, I hope to relate.

You have a great style and I appreciate your insight, so...how about a special request to tell us the *rest of the story* 😉—



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Okay BGP, for you I will.... con't down below
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Scorp and I met two years ago at a bar. Never had seen him before, and as it turns out he's not from around here but visits frequently Very hot, tall, piercing blue eyes. Yum x 10. I made a comment out loud to myself, a friend of his heard me say he was hot, and introduced us. We spent the night together, although didn't sleep together.

The next day, we talked from sunup to sundown about everything. It was endless, and he said I'm the only person he has ever made him feel so comfortable around and actually understood him. I needed to work the next day, he asked me to stay and just leave early in the morning. For the next few weeks he made every effort he could to come to the area, when he was here we were pretty much inseperable. I did notice he would be very private about some things. Which normally is understandable, but this man had told me some pretty personal things. His choices of when and what to remain private about seemed odd. His comings and goings from the area too were always a hit or a miss. He would only hint of when he would be coming or leaving. Sometimes he would be so sweet, senistive, caring. Other times, especially when he was drinking was a complete asshole, intentionally picking fights, pushing me beyond hairpulling. When we fought, it

I knew that he had unfinished business with an ex from where he lived. Although I can't say for sure, I believe they were still hooking up. Also, she would text a lot when she did text. He said she knew they were done. In my eyes, no woman texts like that and the context of what they were if she fully understood they were done...and with no misleadings on his end. There were inconsistencies in his stories, and although knowing their background, and regardless if we just met or not, if he was being truthful then there wouldn't be glaring inconsistencies. The turning point came when he went MIA for about a day and a half. When he finally text me, it was like no time had passed. I had the feeling it was to make it seem or pretend like he hadn't just disappeared. That's when I started pulling back in my mind. Red flag.

Shortly after that, he surprised me by coming into the area. I had four days off and he wanted me to spend them with him. I made arrangements for my children, and went to see him. I was happy but on guard, I knew that this week would be the deciding factor and protect myself at all costs if and when needed. Here's where my self stinging comes in BGP...take notes.

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Ugh, damn posts...cont from our fights area

When we would fight, we went what people would call below the belt...we hit where we knew it would hurt the most. We always made up, but I refused at any point after awhile to drink with him. I realized it was the only way to be able to keep him in check, and not allow myself either to become engrossed in that type of stuff with him. It honestly at times felt like I was the parent, and he was the kid....me sober vs his drinking.

The week that everything went to hell, the first night he made some comments that would lead me to believe he was playing me. I listened very carefully, and made sure I knew what I was hearing. I wasn't talking much, and he told me he felt that I was into him more than he was into me. I told him I agreed, and I picked up on that the weekend he just disappeared. He seemed surprised. For the next few days he was on me like white on rice. He had done a complete turnaround, and saying and doing things that would make me believe he WAS very much into me. I reminded him of what he said to me the first night. He continued. One day, I asked if he was seeing anyone else would he tell me. He said that was personal and no he wouldn't tell me although he wasnt seeing anyone. Right there, I checked out about 90% .(on several occassions though, he did whatever he felt he could or should do to make me jealous of other women...any man though that even looked at me sideways or talked to me? Wrath of Scorp towards me...very jealous, but denied it...constantly testing me though) Later that day, we went to a local bar for a burger and a beer. The bartender was a mutual friend, and picked up on the change between me and Scorp. He made a comment to Scorp that if he didn't want me, then he would take me home himself. Scorp just stared at him. I in my mind did a 'thank you' to our friend. That night, Scorp was very much trying hard to make us seem like a couple. He was talking marriage, moving here, everything. I wouldn't bite, and again reminded him of his comment from the beginning of the week. The whole time though, I had fallen for this man. I couldn't tell him this though of course.

The next morning, my final morning before I had to leave in a few hours, he asked if he should bring a ring the next time he came. By this time, I was completely lost. He had mindfucked me all week. This put the frosting on the cake. I told him I felt it was best if we be friends only. Self stinging 101
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Needless to say, the moment was done. He referenced or commented about me sticking with boys and not being with a real man. He got ready and left, I did the same. I was crushed, BUT I had to do it. There were too many inconsistencies, he fucked with me all week, he had no explanation where he was that weekend he just disappeared. Him telling me it was personal business if he was seeing other women? Fuck that. We talked a little bit more, I found him at a store. We text a little bit after I saw him there, and about an hour later he made a comment that again said for me to stick with the boys, and this is what it is like. He went MIA for about six months (I did find him here one time, and we talked some. But he never would respond to anything again.. I stopped texting for about 3 months, I heard from him).

Everything is always easier in hindsight. I believe what happened was this: He spent that weekend with or around his ex girlfriend (I say this too because a buddy of his referenced that weekend...there had been a wedding they all attended, Scorp was very quiet and kept trying to change the subject..this was when he had disappeared, but after that weekend was more attentive than ever and when he came up to surprise me shortly after) and later he put a final end to it with her... came to see me those four days. I in the meantime had already started checking out out of self preservation, he picked up on that the first night, in defense said he felt I was more into him than me, he started feeling me pull away more which made him try harder, which in my mind was mindgames, when really it was his way of showing me he was with me now 100% , his past was in his past.
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All of his comments about sticking with the boys confused me. When I finally did hear from him, he made a comment about our mutual friend. I instantly remembered the comment our friend had made that day we went for burgers. Everything made sense. Although he wouldn't admit it, I believe he thought this guy and I had or were hooking up and that's why he commented to Scorp he would take me home. Nothing ever happened between this friend and I, and when I put two and two together and tried to explain that, of course it was nothing but he didn't cares, and who gives a shit, and I can fuck whomever I want, and if I like younger men go for it, everything.

Within the next year or so, we would occassionaly text. He heard I was dating someone, and I get a random text from after months of us not talking in disbelief I was dating that guy. Now mind you, Scorp is hairpulling. Makes me go crazy, I see red and wanna slug him...like dealing with a kid at times, and have no patience for his now you see me now you don't MIA antics. He in return loves it, and is very patient with me. He makes me crazy, but I know he cares about me and why we can put up with each others crap. His push and pull is very tiring, wears me out. That's when I tell him off and stop talking to him for a few months, or until I've said everything I've had to say about 'this time.'

I can say though, I never have wanted to strangle someone more than him. But on the otherhand, get and understand him so much, and his whole bunch of crap that that he says or does, that I have no doubt I understand him probably best, and it's really not crap it's just him, and the way that Scorp mind works. It does become exhausting. I have learned, and take another note, you must ALWAYS ALWAYS stay one step ahead. Plan, go beyond, think, and stay ahead of the game. And where the final end of our final end came in: I slipped in my own defense.

Last spring, he shows up unnannounced ...no surprise there... and asks to see me. BIG surprise there. My guard is UP, Radar has been set, and my mind starts working wondering wtf he is up to. He's trying hard, texting every hour wondering why I'm not coming up, etc. This goes on all weekend. Luckily for me I had to work, and couldn't. I didn't trust his intentions. I'm glad I stuck with that too, because at one point he tried getting he, my ex boyfriend, and I all in the same room at a local bar...he was trying to set me up the way I saw it.
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He of course denied it, but by his words was impressed I called him out on it which was his way of admitting it. I asked when he was leaving, he of course didn't answer. I drove to see him, he had left. I told him I would be more careful accepting invitations from him.

Fast forward four months, he invites me to see him. I say no, that the last time he left without saying goodbye and I had drove quite a distance on a chance he would still be here. He tells me he's in my town, and wants to see me and he won't be here all night. I tell him that if I get there and he's not there, there will be hell to pay. I meet him at a bar, he's there with his buddy. This is the first time I have seen him for about six months. We have a wonderful time visiting, and I can tell he's nervous. He makes sexual comments, and I turn him down and tell him he can go to the stripper club if he's looking for a hookup haha When we leave, he asks me to his house again and I said no, I wasn't going to sleep with him but if he was around the next day I would come to see him. He went MIA for two days after, and THEN tells me on his way back to his home that he is only then leaving my area, and that I'm driving him nuts with my texts and he had to get back to work because he made it home. He went complete MIA.

I had been had. I went back on something I knew I shouldn't, and he stung me. It even ran through my head if this was the set up. I had said I would be more careful to accept invitations from him, and he convinced me it was okay to meet with him. Haha, he had gotten me.



We both cared enough, but he had went too far. I was very sad, very sad. For the longest time I wanted this man to be the man of my life, I tried hard to fix things....text after text trying to tell him things, prove I cared. Driving on a whim hoping he was in the area. Nothing. He'd accused me of horrible things in the past, horrible. Saying mean, rotten things. Our mutual friend had died, he made horrible reference still about he and I, it never stopped. And it would never stop unless I stopped it. So, I sent the final text on my birthday. Two years of him doing this to me, and me doing this to myself, and him doing this things to himself......it was enough. He never cared about me I told him, because if he had he would've stopped with his games a long time ago.
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Oddly enough, four days after I send the final text I meet the most recent Scorp... what's even more strange, they share the same birthday just born of different years.

About a month after I sent that text, the one on my birthday, I seen Scorp at a wedding dance. I ignored him. There was one person standing between us, that's how close we stood. I think that's when he realized I was serious. He left. That same night, was the night that the SECOND scorpio pulled HIS crap and flaunted his flavor of the week in front of me. That's a whole other thread, that night. First thing I though of when I saw him was the first Scorp, and I knew right there they were so much a like, it was scary.

So with Scorp from two years ago, I decided at Christmas during my self reflectin that regardless of anything, I would never want him to think I hate him. I don't. The opposite. I also knew sending that I didn't care if I heard back or not, but that if he died tomorrow, I would never forgive myself. Life is too short, and at least he would know I still cared. To have a text back, hearing he was here? Unbelievable, ya know? And him asking to see me? I know he agrees, enough is enough, but I don't know that he knows how to stop self protecting.

I can say, there are two people in this world that given the opportunity to be with again I would. Outside of a childhood sweetheart, but nothing ever happened there and he's married. LOL But, I never go back to my exes once I am done. Ever. What I realized, is both Scorps are two people that I would go back to. There is such a pull, and understanding. I guess it's hard to explain, in a way that anyone would understand unless you've been in the waterbaby and waterbaby relationships. Scorp 2 is pissed from my self preservation and stinging that I did two weeks ago, and in return he did his self preservation. Who knows if and when we'll talk. I don't believe that is over...theres more to come with him, after I got a taste of his Scorpiness at the wedding dance, I'm just patiently waiting on that...it could be a year from now, but for me now I had enough there too.

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Good lord, what an adventure. It is interesting just how difficult it is for some scorpio males to verbalize what they want and how they feel. To think he couldnt admit that he was finally done with that ex and wanted you 100% , and loses you with that "dont ask me if I date other women" shit. Really, I think we women have to be mind readers or expert behavioral therapists to read what they are NOT saying.

Your saying people have to stay one step ahead is true, but how...how does one do that withouht going nuts? I know what it means to feel drained by him...been there, done that. Ugh. Well, I hope there is more maturity this time with him. Who knows, he may have grown up some. Just dont be a door mat to him. Please keep this story updated here....
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So right now, Scorp #1 is back in MIA. Gone. Who knows. I told him again last night to have a good year LOL I did hear back after that, his encrypted texts...we bantered back and forth a bit. He is so sensitive. He really is. I try so hard, but at times he reads so much into things that he becomes defensive or hurt, and then says or does things. So I have learned to just start explaining things without even asking. Let him chew on it a bit, think about it. Stew, kill me 20 times in his head, but I know his mind is always thinking, racing, trying to figure me out...it keeps him on his toes. He's knows I get batshit crazy, and I guess he gets me too. 🙂

So now with his MIA he's busy doing something. I just want to spend time with the man, enjoy each other's company ...but that's a lot to ask for ya know 😉 haha So now I will go on with my life. I'll hear from him I'm sure. Could be tomorrow, or at 1159 on New Years Eve asking why I'm not there with him, or in six months. And driving me crazy in the process, of which he knows and loves.

Of course there is way more, but this is the surface.
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I did this once. When I first met my scorpio I was seeing my ex leo who I had wanted to make it work with. I'd been trying so hard for 4 yrs to make it work because I had hurt him badly, but I was blinded to the fact that he was treating me poorly. And I didn't see scorpio as someone I wanted to date. Though as the days went on and we started talking, against what I thought was a good choice, I began to fall for the scorpio. Why was I falling for someone when I'd been trying to make it work with this leo?

This just fell into place tho...and he wants what I want. So I think the main thing here is which one wants what you want? If you're wanting a relationship I'd ask if they'd want a relationship sometime in the future.

This is what I did with my scorpio and it really helped me know we were on the same track and not feel like I didn't know what was going to happen next. I made that mistake in the past and went in and out of dating people who clearly didn't want a relationship, but I stayed, hoping they would eventually. Just ask and define the boundaries. You really have nothing to lose
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Posted by happykitsune
I did this once. When I first met my scorpio I was seeing my ex leo who I had wanted to make it work with. I'd been trying so hard for 4 yrs to make it work because I had hurt him badly, but I was blinded to the fact that he was treating me poorly. And I didn't see scorpio as someone I wanted to date. Though as the days went on and we started talking, against what I thought was a good choice, I began to fall for the scorpio. Why was I falling for someone when I'd been trying to make it work with this leo?

This just fell into place tho...and he wants what I want. So I think the main thing here is which one wants what you want? If you're wanting a relationship I'd ask if they'd want a relationship sometime in the future.

This is what I did with my scorpio and it really helped me know we were on the same track and not feel like I didn't know what was going to happen next. I made that mistake in the past and went in and out of dating people who clearly didn't want a relationship, but I stayed, hoping they would eventually. Just ask and define the boundaries. You really have nothing to lose



This is great advice, thank you 🙂