@Sag89
14 Years1,000+ PostsSagittarius
Ok I Need Serious Help!
Call the police. They will escort you in to get your stuff. Pretty simple.
Why'd you leave all your stuff at his place? o.O
Wait you guys I just figured this all out.
I just realized he is acting this way because he is a abusive person.
I never realized that until I realized he is just like my mother who was extremely abusive.
He only cares about his needs being met and he uses " if you don't do this, I won't love you " against me to do things.
Normal people don't do this. They don't.
So you know what? I'm not going to play into this behavior anymore.
Fuck my stuff for right now.
I will get it when he isn't home. And perhaps one of the roomates will let me in so I can get it.
I shouldn't let him have this power over me anymore.
aww saggy.
maybe hes sad your moving out? probably wants you to stay forever. you and kitty.
I hope the cat is still alive at this point...
I'm not going to call the police all that will give him a reaction
I'm not going to feed him.
I'm not going to put myself thru another cycle of abuse and that is all that will happen.
I'm just going to have to go by when he isn't home ask a roomate to let me in and grab and things and get the hell out of there.
I have every right to get my things. They are mine. I shouldn't even be asking.
If he wasn't a such a controlling monster he would of givin me all my things the day he decided he " didn't want me in his life anymore " or givin me a time when I could come by and pick them up.
But see that " talk " never came up. Because he doesn't really want me out of his life. He wants me to beg for him. He gets off on that and gets his needs met by seeing me a wreck over him and being helpless.
Than he can use the " If you love me/want love you'll do everything I say on my time, on my schedule "
I use to think that is how you interact with people. I use to think that was ok.
Because that is how I've been treated my whole life.
But no it's not and I don't want to be part of such things anymore.
If gets therapy and works his ass off like I have been having to do I would talk to him but he isn't so really there is no point.
The cat is fine because luckly he lives with this gay taurus guy ( who is the only reasonable, responsible, steady chance at being ok ) person he really knows. He is very smart too. I always wondered what his chart is.
The other roomate is a leo who is a totally mooch coke head preppy boy that never pays rent. So ya.
Posted by Sag89
I'm not going to call the police all that will give him a reactionI'm not going to feed him.
I'm not going to put myself thru another cycle of abuse and that is all that will happen.
I'm just going to have to go by when he isn't home ask a roomate to let me in and grab and things and get the hell out of there.
I have every right to get my things. They are mine. I shouldn't even be asking.
If he wasn't a such a controlling monster he would of givin me all my things the day he decided he " didn't want me in his life anymore " or givin me a time when I could come by and pick them up.
But see that " talk " never came up. Because he doesn't really want me out of his life. He wants me to beg for him. He gets off on that and gets his needs met by seeing me a wreck over him and being helpless.
Than he can use the " If you love me/want love you'll do everything I say on my time, on my schedule "
I use to think that is how you interact with people. I use to think that was ok.
Because that is how I've been treated my whole life.
But no it's not and I don't want to be part of such things anymore.
If gets therapy and works his ass off like I have been having to do I would talk to him but he isn't so really there is no point.
fight versus flight....i truly never know what to do. but i will say this, he wouldnt be acting like this if he didnt really like you.
SAG89 --
TAKE A DEEP BREATH!!
Scorp man loves you obviously very much. He doesn't understand you though. Not yet... and I do not believe this is the end of you two. However for now you need your space.
1- either wait until past December 13 (when this retrogate is over and I hope by then you keep yourself shut down to him and not get caught by the coming lunar eclips on Saturday). I hope you follow #1.
2- still hold your breath! Go to nearest Police Station and request from officer that you need to pick up your stuff from his place. The officer stands by your side. All will be calm and by rules/regulations AND civilized.
#2 will hurt your Scorp, but he will respect that in time to come. You can't just sneak around room mates and get into his property ... you will find yourself in bigger trouble!
If he uses his common sense, he will need to respond to you.
I think he is just very hurt and brooding. He is acting emotionally. He can't put 2 things together that he would love you this much (HATE = quite big love!) and NOT UNDERSTANDING can go hand-in-hand. He is trying to figure things out. So it seems this is a very emotional time for you both. You are learning about each other but he, by no means ... would ever want to hurt you 🙂
I'd still suggest you wait past December 13 and then decide what way you want to go.
Would someone explain what retrograde is?
Would someone explain what retrograde is?
Retrograde happens when a planet appears to be moving backwards. On an orbit, there is a forward motion and then going back. Usually things slow down at retrogrades, which is also interpreted as times of "re-thinking".
There will be a lunar eclipse happening Dec 10, which usually announces endings. Susan Miller interprets this ENDING in two ways, either ending of single life or ending of relationship.
I like reading Dr. Loretta Standley's interpretation, she has a fun way on describing the motion of stars. Here is a link:
http://www.drstandley.com/astrologycharts_retrogrademotion.shtml
I'm also big fan of Susan Miller monthly.
Posted by FUMRedFairy_tales
SAG89 --TAKE A DEEP BREATH!!
Scorp man loves you obviously very much. He doesn't understand you though. Not yet... and I do not believe this is the end of you two. However for now you need your space.
1- either wait until past December 13 (when this retrogate is over and I hope by then you keep yourself shut down to him and not get caught by the coming lunar eclips on Saturday). I hope you follow #1.
2- still hold your breath! Go to nearest Police Station and request from officer that you need to pick up your stuff from his place. The officer stands by your side. All will be calm and by rules/regulations AND civilized.
#2 will hurt your Scorp, but he will respect that in time to come. You can't just sneak around room mates and get into his property ... you will find yourself in bigger trouble!
If he uses his common sense, he will need to respond to you.
I think he is just very hurt and brooding. He is acting emotionally. He can't put 2 things together that he would love you this much (HATE = quite big love!) and NOT UNDERSTANDING can go hand-in-hand. He is trying to figure things out. So it seems this is a very emotional time for you both. You are learning about each other but he, by no means ... would ever want to hurt you 🙂
I'd still suggest you wait past December 13 and then decide what way you want to go.
Thank you Fum!
I really think your trying to say something here. Could you say more?
I will surely wait. I think that is a very good idea.
I think if I act right now it'll be too emotional so I'll just keep quiet.
Posted by ellybd
Sag89, your such a strong and hot little thing. I see why Scorpio men are so attracted to you.I think you know what's up and what to do. 🙂 Good Luck.
Lol thanks elly,
I just want to say I do not think all scorpios are this bad!
Posted by Sag89
I'm not going to call the police all that will give him a reactionI'm not going to feed him.
I'm not going to put myself thru another cycle of abuse and that is all that will happen.
I'm just going to have to go by when he isn't home ask a roomate to let me in and grab and things and get the hell out of there.
I have every right to get my things. They are mine. I shouldn't even be asking.
If he wasn't a such a controlling monster he would of givin me all my things the day he decided he " didn't want me in his life anymore " or givin me a time when I could come by and pick them up.
But see that " talk " never came up. Because he doesn't really want me out of his life. He wants me to beg for him. He gets off on that and gets his needs met by seeing me a wreck over him and being helpless.
Than he can use the " If you love me/want love you'll do everything I say on my time, on my schedule "
I use to think that is how you interact with people. I use to think that was ok.
Because that is how I've been treated my whole life.
But no it's not and I don't want to be part of such things anymore.
If gets therapy and works his ass off like I have been having to do I would talk to him but he isn't so really there is no point.
fight versus flight....i truly never know what to do. but i will say this, he wouldnt be acting like this if he didnt really like you.
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Lol I don't know
But see that " talk " never came up. Because he doesn't really want me out of his life. He wants me to beg for him. He gets off on that and gets his needs met by seeing me a wreck over him and being helpless.
click to expand^^ that type of scorpio
- lives for the next ego stroke
- can't see what (s)he's doing wrong
- life's been unfair to him(her) beyond belief
- being obsessed over is his(her) idea of being lovedyeah that's fucked up
Posted by Sag89
I'm not going to call the police all that will give him a reactionI'm not going to feed him.
I'm not going to put myself thru another cycle of abuse and that is all that will happen.
I'm just going to have to go by when he isn't home ask a roomate to let me in and grab and things and get the hell out of there.
I have every right to get my things. They are mine. I shouldn't even be asking.
If he wasn't a such a controlling monster he would of givin me all my things the day he decided he " didn't want me in his life anymore " or givin me a time when I could come by and pick them up.
But see that " talk " never came up. Because he doesn't really want me out of his life. He wants me to beg for him. He gets off on that and gets his needs met by seeing me a wreck over him and being helpless.
Than he can use the " If you love me/want love you'll do everything I say on my time, on my schedule "
I use to think that is how you interact with people. I use to think that was ok.
Because that is how I've been treated my whole life.
But no it's not and I don't want to be part of such things anymore.
If gets therapy and works his ass off like I have been having to do I would talk to him but he isn't so really there is no point.
fight versus flight....i truly never know what to do. but i will say this, he wouldnt be acting like this if he didnt really like you.
So she should stay just because he likes her even though he is abusive? DMV: throwing logic out the window since 1981.
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Yea see I don't think it's " love" anymore
....
I'm getting so pissed and considering just breaking into the house and taking it!
You can't even take the cat, nor your stuff until Jan, or whenever your new place is available ... yet, you're all up in arms because you want it right the fuck now.
Be sensible, consider it free storage.
You don't need police to get your stuff ... you only need to get a grip and carry yourself with conviction of purpose and sensibilities, rather than just fly off handles = emotionally reacting
To beat him = to be a better person .. if you are reacting, rather than thinking, as he is doing = you are at his level
The cat is fine because luckly he lives with this gay taurus guy
click to expandBecause by virtue of being a gay man = will take care of a cat?
Can you clarify how you worked that out?
Posted by ellybd
Sag89, your such a strong and hot little thing. I see why Scorpio men are so attracted to you.I think you know what's up and what to do. 🙂 Good Luck.
+1
girl, you make him FEEL
But see that " talk " never came up. Because he doesn't really want me out of his life. He wants me to beg for him. He gets off on that and gets his needs met by seeing me a wreck over him and being helpless.
^^ that type of scorpio
- lives for the next ego stroke
- can't see what (s)he's doing wrong
- life's been unfair to him(her) beyond belief
- being obsessed over is his(her) idea of being lovedyeah that's fucked up
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yeah i see what your saying totally. he needs a reaction to feel loved or something. to make him believe that you still dig him or something.
something very "leo" about this being obsessed over is his(her) idea of being loved
Posted by Sag89
I'm not going to call the police all that will give him a reactionI'm not going to feed him.
I'm not going to put myself thru another cycle of abuse and that is all that will happen.
I'm just going to have to go by when he isn't home ask a roomate to let me in and grab and things and get the hell out of there.
I have every right to get my things. They are mine. I shouldn't even be asking.
If he wasn't a such a controlling monster he would of givin me all my things the day he decided he " didn't want me in his life anymore " or givin me a time when I could come by and pick them up.
But see that " talk " never came up. Because he doesn't really want me out of his life. He wants me to beg for him. He gets off on that and gets his needs met by seeing me a wreck over him and being helpless.
Than he can use the " If you love me/want love you'll do everything I say on my time, on my schedule "
I use to think that is how you interact with people. I use to think that was ok.
Because that is how I've been treated my whole life.
But no it's not and I don't want to be part of such things anymore.
If gets therapy and works his ass off like I have been having to do I would talk to him but he isn't so really there is no point.
fight versus flight....i truly never know what to do. but i will say this, he wouldnt be acting like this if he didnt really like you.
So she should stay just because he likes her even though he is abusive? DMV: throwing logic out the window since 1981.
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i dont think i said that.
Posted by P-Angel
Two things .....I'm getting so pissed and considering just breaking into the house and taking it!
You can't even take the cat, nor your stuff until Jan, or whenever your new place is available ... yet, you're all up in arms because you want it right the fuck now.
Be sensible, consider it free storage.
You don't need police to get your stuff ... you only need to get a grip and carry yourself with conviction of purpose and sensibilities, rather than just fly off handles = emotionally reacting
To beat him = to be a better person .. if you are reacting, rather than thinking, as he is doing = you are at his level
The cat is fine because luckly he lives with this gay taurus guy
Because by virtue of being a gay man = will take care of a cat?
Can you clarify how you worked that out?
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Because by virtue of being a gay man = will take care of a cat?
LOL. this is funny!
Then what was your comment for? An excuse for his behavior? yes.
nope, dont think i said that either.
P-Angel has a valid point. You can't get your cat until you move into your place in January, unless you've made arrangements for the cat to stay somewhere else.
I don't agree with the people who are saying he loves you. Look at some of this:
* He has a coke head roommate. He will tolerate this life style , but not you?
* He allows said coke head to not pay rent. He will tolerate this mooch, but yet not talk to you?
* He calls you psycho.
* He won't allow you into the house to get things that belong to you. How childish is this?
IMO, you both are fairly immature. You're both feeding into the other's need for attention.
You cannot break into his house to get your stuff unless you really want to see how vindictive this guy can be. If you are nowhere listed on the lease and he has evidence that shows that he never gave you permission to enter his house without him there, he could have you arrested.
I say give it through the weekend with no contact. Then Monday morning, call him and leave him a very tactful voice message asking if the two of you can talk to work out some pending matters that you need to square away before you move into your own place. Keep the emotion out of it and stick to the fact of asking to enter to get your cat and your other possessions.
Wow your reading into this all wrong.
The whole point of this thread was I was saying I'm not going to put up with his abuse and how to do so.
Than sure if you cut off the sentence where I explained why the taurus is taking care of the cat it sounds like. Gay guys take cares of things.
I said the taurus is the most emotional healthy person living there and he takes care of my ex's cat as well. Before I moved out I asked if I should take it to a shelter or not and he said he'd take care of them both.
So that cat is in good hands thanks to the taurus.
"I said the taurus is the most emotional healthy person living there and he takes care of my ex's cat as well. Before I moved out I asked if I should take it to a shelter or not and he said he'd take care of them both."
Wait, wait....so you didn't even want to keep the cat to begin with?
^ Lol yeah I've decided to get my stuff at a later date.
Hopefully by that point maybe things will have calmed down and this won't have to be a crazy process.
No I did want the cat but I was in a dorm and I could not have a cat in the dorm
He is not going to throw my stuff out. He wants my stuff there. It's about control for him.
If he really wanted to get my stuff out he would of brought it up or put all my stuff in boxes and sent it to me.
This is a game. That mentally ill people play.
Posted by Sag89
I'm not going to call the police all that will give him a reactionare going to at least to not make 1 sentence paragraphs please?
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Ok excuse me I write that way to it's read able
Posted by Sag89
I'm not going to call the police all that will give him a reactionare going to at least to not make 1 sentence paragraphs please?
Ok excuse me I write that way to it's read able
It's not readable. That's the thing.
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Well most people don't like to read a wall of text
Posted by Sag89
I'm not going to call the police all that will give him a reactionare going to at least to not make 1 sentence paragraphs please?
Ok excuse me I write that way to it's read able
It's not readable. That's the thing.
Well most people don't like to read a wall of text
Then you don't know proper grammar structure if you end up making a wall of text. It is really hard to read a sentence per line. It is not only annoying to the eyes as it doesn't agree with simple reading eye gestures, but the mental strain of how grammatically wrong it is.
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Life is tough man, I hear ya.
Posted by Sag89
I'm not going to call the police all that will give him a reactionare going to at least to not make 1 sentence paragraphs please?
Ok excuse me I write that way to it's read able
It's not readable. That's the thing.
Well most people don't like to read a wall of text
Then you don't know proper grammar structure if you end up making a wall of text. It is really hard to read a sentence per line. It is not only annoying to the eyes as it doesn't agree with simple reading eye gestures, but the mental strain of how grammatically wrong it is.
Life is tough man, I hear ya.
And the weak don't survive. 😉
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Yerp
"This is a game. That mentally ill people play."
And you're mental for playing right along to it.
I get a chuckle out of the name of this thread. It's titled "OK I need serious help!"
Yes, yes you do.
Posted by BullBeauty
"This is a game. That mentally ill people play."And you're mental for playing right along to it.
I get a chuckle out of the name of this thread. It's titled "OK I need serious help!"
Yes, yes you do.
I am not playing into that is exactly the point.
If I was playing into it I'd call the cops, or run over to his house and be like give me my shit.
Instead I'm just not going to do anything right now.
okie doke. then the posting on this thread is complete, yes? you have made your decision and noone else needs to give you their opinion?
Posted by BullBeauty
okie doke. then the posting on this thread is complete, yes? you have made your decision and noone else needs to give you their opinion?
I wanted to hear more of Fum's thoughts but yes I did make a decision
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Okay so me and my ex scorpio had a huge blow out where he decided he hates and doesn't want me in his life blah blah it's too hard whatever
I said fine here the problem lies with the fact all of my shit including my cat is at his house.
I am moving into a place the 1st of Jan and I need to get all my stuff together to move and I have to be out of there by than!
This place allows me to have animals and so I've decided to take the cat with me.
He will not answer any of my txts, emails, or calls.
I'm getting so pissed and considering just breaking into the house and taking it!
I have no idea why he is acting like this.
What can I do? He's acting like a 5 year old.