BlueAqua
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Vindictive Virgo and Scorpio Dilemma
Thank you for your comments but i think you miss my point. Scorpio is trying to get his son. I have nothing to do with this. Now, the Virgo is Vindictive period. The 4 years Scorpio and I have been together she is constantly causing drama. I wanted to meet her but because she is not willing to meet me we don't get along. She is always out to get him. I think it is because of something that happened in their marriage and mostly she doesn't want him to be happy because she is not happy. She's a Major in the Air Force and leaving for Iraq . The Ex is on the verge of letting her son go to Scorpio,.Scorpiio doesn't want to jeopardize her letting him go. If he tells her i'm pregnant she may change her mind. So our baby is pretty much a secret untill he has his son and he says Then he will Tell his family.
I don't think this is right. I think he should tell his family about me being pregnant regardless of what his ex will say or try to do.
Scorpio is trying to get his son because he feels his son needs him. He says his ex is gone all the time while the son is home by himself, when she comes home from work she goes in her room and closes the door not spending quality time with her son. She doesn't take him to his sporting events, Scorpio has to call his son coach to pick him up for practice because she won't take him and the list continues. He really feels it's a critical time in his son life that he needs his father. Actually Scorpio's son can't wait to come spend the summer with me and my oldest son.
I don't think this is right. I think he should tell his family about me being pregnant regardless of what his ex will say or try to do.
Scorpio is trying to get his son because he feels his son needs him. He says his ex is gone all the time while the son is home by himself, when she comes home from work she goes in her room and closes the door not spending quality time with her son. She doesn't take him to his sporting events, Scorpio has to call his son coach to pick him up for practice because she won't take him and the list continues. He really feels it's a critical time in his son life that he needs his father. Actually Scorpio's son can't wait to come spend the summer with me and my oldest son.
Good point. I think you're right. If this Virgo is naturally vindictive (and not just with this Scorp) then she will find out the truth anyways & you guys will still see the drama. So why not introduce her to the truth now to get the majority of the drama out of the way?
BUT then again, Scorps strive to be the ones who are MORE vindictive when they are faced with someone who is being vindictive towards them. So to him this might just be a game & competition for who wins. He probably feels that if he gains custody of his son by hidind you, it'll prove that he was more successful in his vindictiveness at the end of it all & sadly, he'll feel a big sense of victory if this happens. Yes, it sucks that he's doing all of this at the expense of your feelings, but then again you have to understand that this is not about you. This is a battle between vindictiveness #1 VS. Vindictiveness #2 & even though he knows that there are other ways to get his son (whether she likes it or not), he still wants to do all that he can do in order to win the battle over whose the best at revenge or mind games. To you, it's ridiculous & is a waste of time & that's understandable. If anything, from your standpoint, he is only activating your suspicions of them being more than they say they are, by simply hiding the fact. But you are feeling this way b/c you are not being vindictive like they are; you are just simply "feeling" & using your emotions. Right now, he's in "battle" mode so trying to get him to see this from your point of view will be pointless b/c a Scorpio will try their HARDEST to win any battle, even if the fight is for something horrible & not cute bragging about
BUT then again, Scorps strive to be the ones who are MORE vindictive when they are faced with someone who is being vindictive towards them. So to him this might just be a game & competition for who wins. He probably feels that if he gains custody of his son by hidind you, it'll prove that he was more successful in his vindictiveness at the end of it all & sadly, he'll feel a big sense of victory if this happens. Yes, it sucks that he's doing all of this at the expense of your feelings, but then again you have to understand that this is not about you. This is a battle between vindictiveness #1 VS. Vindictiveness #2 & even though he knows that there are other ways to get his son (whether she likes it or not), he still wants to do all that he can do in order to win the battle over whose the best at revenge or mind games. To you, it's ridiculous & is a waste of time & that's understandable. If anything, from your standpoint, he is only activating your suspicions of them being more than they say they are, by simply hiding the fact. But you are feeling this way b/c you are not being vindictive like they are; you are just simply "feeling" & using your emotions. Right now, he's in "battle" mode so trying to get him to see this from your point of view will be pointless b/c a Scorpio will try their HARDEST to win any battle, even if the fight is for something horrible & not cute bragging about
I agree that he should tell his family & be prepared to fight even harder to get custody of his son, even if that means his ex being more vindictive in the process. He needs to understand that you're feelings & your unborn child are at stake & should be just as important to him the same way his already-born son is. She might be a drama queen, but if he really loves you & believes that his decision to be with you was the right one then he should let the LAW deal with her, versus trying to battle her for whose the most vindictive of the year. It's not fair to you that all this bickering & drama has to go on at your expense, b/c I'm sure you didn't sign up for this.
And of course, there's always the possibility that he's not telling her about your unborn child b/c they still have unfinished business with eachother. The reason I believe this is b/c trust me, when a Scorp. wants something, they WILL get it. And they will especially not throw their new loved ones under the bus just to get it, b/c they are confident that their passion & intensity alone will make them win, regardless of the circumstances. Either way, you chose to be with a man who's got a drama-filled baby mama & he chose to commit to someone else already knowing this. So since he chose to commit to someone other than her, he needs to quit allowing this woman to have TOO much power over his emotions & he needs to rep. what he's started with you as much as possible, if anything as revenge to her to make her madder. Scorps. fight to the death for their loved ones & even though you will never be his son, you ARE carrying his seed so he needs to understand that he needs to have the same fire & passion to keep you satisfied & taken care of & protected the same way he's looking out for his son.
And of course, there's always the possibility that he's not telling her about your unborn child b/c they still have unfinished business with eachother. The reason I believe this is b/c trust me, when a Scorp. wants something, they WILL get it. And they will especially not throw their new loved ones under the bus just to get it, b/c they are confident that their passion & intensity alone will make them win, regardless of the circumstances. Either way, you chose to be with a man who's got a drama-filled baby mama & he chose to commit to someone else already knowing this. So since he chose to commit to someone other than her, he needs to quit allowing this woman to have TOO much power over his emotions & he needs to rep. what he's started with you as much as possible, if anything as revenge to her to make her madder. Scorps. fight to the death for their loved ones & even though you will never be his son, you ARE carrying his seed so he needs to understand that he needs to have the same fire & passion to keep you satisfied & taken care of & protected the same way he's looking out for his son.
"And who's to say in 5 years you won't find yourself in her shoes now, and he does the same to you as well, trying to take away YOUR child, because he now considers YOU to be vindictive as well."
I have told Scorpio he and his Ex-Virgo can play the head games,... BUT the butter stops with me. I don't have time for it and Certainly not going to stand for such. I 'm a Good mom! Not pefect. But i will continue to give to my son 100% of me cause that's just the way it is.
I have told Scorpio he and his Ex-Virgo can play the head games,... BUT the butter stops with me. I don't have time for it and Certainly not going to stand for such. I 'm a Good mom! Not pefect. But i will continue to give to my son 100% of me cause that's just the way it is.
Krysrenee you are always On Point🙂🙂🙂🙂
I think ur right 7 i never heard of virgo being like that well not for that long. now scorpio are very sneky and try to make everyone look like the bad guy i know u love him but keep ur eyes open. i tell u as virgo with a lot of scorpio in my chart i only act like her if the person is f up. water sign are good at making illusion read between the lines to get to the truth.
My only question is ..... if you know that there is a lot of shit going on between these two exes, regardless of who is the real villain ..... then why would you put another child in the middle of this?
Seriously, I don't think you have thought that far because it doesn't sound to me like you've made a mature decision.
You are leaving the impression here that Scorpio just wants his son becuase ex is screwy, and there seems to be a period mark after his obtaining of son ... like once this is accomplished, then goal is successful.
Do you actually believe that once he gets is his son .. then all of her shananigans are going to stop? Or whatever it is she is doing to cause drama? Let's be real here.
If he takes her son ... then the games have only just begun ... please tell me you aren't so stupid that you cannot have the forsight to see this and actually think life will be bliss if both of these things happen
1. He gets son
2. He tells about you
That's ^^^^ it? That's as far as your sight can see?
And in all of this drama, all of this mess that has been going on between these two people and the son they've put in the middle of it to use to hurt each other .... you decide to make another one, which you are now seeing this Scorpio is using the new one, too isn't he?
Yes, he is .... he is using it as a secret ... for later usage, to be sure.
Hope you like drama .. because now you've put yourself right smack dab in the very center of it .. the day you decided not to wrap it up.
How mature and responsible of you.
Seriously, I don't think you have thought that far because it doesn't sound to me like you've made a mature decision.
You are leaving the impression here that Scorpio just wants his son becuase ex is screwy, and there seems to be a period mark after his obtaining of son ... like once this is accomplished, then goal is successful.
Do you actually believe that once he gets is his son .. then all of her shananigans are going to stop? Or whatever it is she is doing to cause drama? Let's be real here.
If he takes her son ... then the games have only just begun ... please tell me you aren't so stupid that you cannot have the forsight to see this and actually think life will be bliss if both of these things happen
1. He gets son
2. He tells about you
That's ^^^^ it? That's as far as your sight can see?
And in all of this drama, all of this mess that has been going on between these two people and the son they've put in the middle of it to use to hurt each other .... you decide to make another one, which you are now seeing this Scorpio is using the new one, too isn't he?
Yes, he is .... he is using it as a secret ... for later usage, to be sure.
Hope you like drama .. because now you've put yourself right smack dab in the very center of it .. the day you decided not to wrap it up.
How mature and responsible of you.
Sure Virgotome,
1. Is this a joint custody with the son involved? If not, what type of custody does the mother have
Joint
2. Does the father (scorpio) have visitation? If so, what are those arrangements? (how many days a week etc..)
They live in different states so the father visits his son when work permits.
3. You have not physically met the mother of this boy after 4 years of being w/ the scorp correct?
Correct.Her decision.
4. Does the mother know you and the Scorp are engaged?
Yes and she went completely off.
5. Did you set a wedding date?
No. That's on me becasue i'm not so sure about the date as of yet with the drama.
6. When is your child due?
Another Aquarius🙂 Jan 26
7. How old is the Scorp's son?
13
8. Why did your Scorp and ex split up? Did he cheat with you?
1. Is this a joint custody with the son involved? If not, what type of custody does the mother have
Joint
2. Does the father (scorpio) have visitation? If so, what are those arrangements? (how many days a week etc..)
They live in different states so the father visits his son when work permits.
3. You have not physically met the mother of this boy after 4 years of being w/ the scorp correct?
Correct.Her decision.
4. Does the mother know you and the Scorp are engaged?
Yes and she went completely off.
5. Did you set a wedding date?
No. That's on me becasue i'm not so sure about the date as of yet with the drama.
6. When is your child due?
Another Aquarius🙂 Jan 26
7. How old is the Scorp's son?
13
8. Why did your Scorp and ex split up? Did he cheat with you?
"Hopefully the Virgo drops the kid off and deploys to Iraq pronto, otherwise the Scorp will have to tell his family that you are not really preggers just really really fat."
WB, even before she got her orders for Iraqi he still wanted to get his son becasue he says he needs to be with his father right now.
WB, even before she got her orders for Iraqi he still wanted to get his son becasue he says he needs to be with his father right now.
There is another child?
No obsession over the daughter?
No obsession over the daughter?
From what I've observed ... Virgos are pretty good parents.
You keep saying all these things about a person you've never met .... which means you are going off of what you've been told by a Scorpio scorned.
In reality .. you don't know any of those things to be true .. what you do know is that this is what you've been told by somebody else.
Personally, I think you are the one being decieved ... he sounds like he's tricky, for if he were on the up and up, then your pregnancy wouldn't have to be a secret from anybody. Because he is wanting to keep it a secret .. I would suspect that he's telling Virgo that he isn't sleeping with you .. to keep her in his game.
You keep saying all these things about a person you've never met .... which means you are going off of what you've been told by a Scorpio scorned.
In reality .. you don't know any of those things to be true .. what you do know is that this is what you've been told by somebody else.
Personally, I think you are the one being decieved ... he sounds like he's tricky, for if he were on the up and up, then your pregnancy wouldn't have to be a secret from anybody. Because he is wanting to keep it a secret .. I would suspect that he's telling Virgo that he isn't sleeping with you .. to keep her in his game.
"WB, even before she got her orders for Iraqi he still wanted to get his son becasue he says he needs to be with his father right now."
When in reality ..... this wanting the son isn't in the best interest of the child at all, rather, the desire of the father.
Because there is another child, which means this man wants to take a boy away from his sister.
You know, when a child goes through life not having a reliable parent (which is what you are saying about the Virgo mother (eventhough it's second hand information)) ... they tend to become attached to their siblings, because these siblings endure this life together, which forms a bond between them, a solid bond, because it gives them a sense of security because there is somebody there who truly understands their struggles in life.
If this boy (13) is indeed unhappy, and he lives this far away .. then certainly there is somebody to whom this boy is attached .... beit, his sister, grandmother, uncle, etc.
This 13 year old boy does NOT need a father to whom only goes to see him sometimes, when job permits, who he needs is his constant, his grounding, whomever that might be.
If I were you, this is what I would be encouraging ..... rather than the purpose of your whole thread here .. which is to bitch because your feelings are hurt, because he is making your pregnancy his little secret and you don't like it, and want to know how to make him not play you so he'll tell the world about this bastard you're carrying.
When in reality ..... this wanting the son isn't in the best interest of the child at all, rather, the desire of the father.
Because there is another child, which means this man wants to take a boy away from his sister.
You know, when a child goes through life not having a reliable parent (which is what you are saying about the Virgo mother (eventhough it's second hand information)) ... they tend to become attached to their siblings, because these siblings endure this life together, which forms a bond between them, a solid bond, because it gives them a sense of security because there is somebody there who truly understands their struggles in life.
If this boy (13) is indeed unhappy, and he lives this far away .. then certainly there is somebody to whom this boy is attached .... beit, his sister, grandmother, uncle, etc.
This 13 year old boy does NOT need a father to whom only goes to see him sometimes, when job permits, who he needs is his constant, his grounding, whomever that might be.
If I were you, this is what I would be encouraging ..... rather than the purpose of your whole thread here .. which is to bitch because your feelings are hurt, because he is making your pregnancy his little secret and you don't like it, and want to know how to make him not play you so he'll tell the world about this bastard you're carrying.
Well it's not a matter of if it's usual or not for a Virgo to be vindictive b/c in this situation she clearly is & b/c you've been dealing with this guy for 4 years now, I'm pretty sure you were convinced of her vindictiveness LONNNG before this situation happened. There are plenty of manipulative & vindictive Virgos & people of every sign & all the baby-mama-drama is common with women IN GENERAL b/c of the emotions attached to having a baby with someone, even if the relationship part of your connection to them is over.
And hey, don't be suprised if her joining the military had a BIG effect on her personality. In the military you learn how to control, how to be aggressive & how to always get to your target FIRST before they get to you, no matter what field in the military you are in. This woman might be vindictive towards you & this Scorp, BUT to an extent, because this fight is about a mother who may not be comfortable with letting her child go into the arms of the man she no longer can have, it all makes sense. It seems like this woman doesn't want her ex anymore, but then again doesn't want him to be with anyone else either. And alot of women that are single parents live in deep resentment with the fathers b/c everyone woman is told when she's a little girl that the prince comes along to rescue the woman & take her & their children off into paradise forever. Well, now that this has not happened for her, it opened up alot of bitterness & resentment towards him. Trust me, I don't believe that YOU are the only reason she wouldn't let him take their son. There are other reasons that you may be unaware of. And until you know ALL of those reasons, don't be so quick to assume that she is being evil for not letting her son go off into the hands of the father. B/c truthfully, you haven't even had his baby yet and yet you are ALREADY being protective & already putting the needs of your child over the man you're in love with. And b/c they were married & had 13 years of HAVING to know eachother through their son, I'm sure this vindictiveness & bitterness & unwillingness to compromise didn't just start b/c he got with you. Something is missing.
And hey, don't be suprised if her joining the military had a BIG effect on her personality. In the military you learn how to control, how to be aggressive & how to always get to your target FIRST before they get to you, no matter what field in the military you are in. This woman might be vindictive towards you & this Scorp, BUT to an extent, because this fight is about a mother who may not be comfortable with letting her child go into the arms of the man she no longer can have, it all makes sense. It seems like this woman doesn't want her ex anymore, but then again doesn't want him to be with anyone else either. And alot of women that are single parents live in deep resentment with the fathers b/c everyone woman is told when she's a little girl that the prince comes along to rescue the woman & take her & their children off into paradise forever. Well, now that this has not happened for her, it opened up alot of bitterness & resentment towards him. Trust me, I don't believe that YOU are the only reason she wouldn't let him take their son. There are other reasons that you may be unaware of. And until you know ALL of those reasons, don't be so quick to assume that she is being evil for not letting her son go off into the hands of the father. B/c truthfully, you haven't even had his baby yet and yet you are ALREADY being protective & already putting the needs of your child over the man you're in love with. And b/c they were married & had 13 years of HAVING to know eachother through their son, I'm sure this vindictiveness & bitterness & unwillingness to compromise didn't just start b/c he got with you. Something is missing.
What I admire though is that you recognize that you are pregnant & have someone inside of you that really needs for you to be rational right now. Alot of women NEVER really put their kids first, b/c half way in the line of fire, they are too caught up in their emotions for the father or their men.
You might've taken alot of crap before & dealt with the drama now, but now that you're pregnant & realize that this situation is bigger than just you & your Scorp, I'm so proud of you for you finally standing up & saying ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. It's one thing to sit & deal with all the drama when it's just you & your man. But it's another thing when your own child comes b/c it makes you look at the situation more clearly, out of respect for your child. If your spirit is telling you that all this drama is not worth it then it's okay to leave the relationship. You DO NOT have to stay & be emotionally discontent just b/c you love him. The last thing you want is for ANOTHER CHILD (yours) to be born through all this drama. We can't change that their child is in the middle of all this mess BUT you CAN CHANGE the path for yourself & for your child b/c it is not too late. You can either stay b/c you "love" him & feel it worth it to stay OR you can leave, atleast until he maps out where his priorities are.
You might've taken alot of crap before & dealt with the drama now, but now that you're pregnant & realize that this situation is bigger than just you & your Scorp, I'm so proud of you for you finally standing up & saying ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. It's one thing to sit & deal with all the drama when it's just you & your man. But it's another thing when your own child comes b/c it makes you look at the situation more clearly, out of respect for your child. If your spirit is telling you that all this drama is not worth it then it's okay to leave the relationship. You DO NOT have to stay & be emotionally discontent just b/c you love him. The last thing you want is for ANOTHER CHILD (yours) to be born through all this drama. We can't change that their child is in the middle of all this mess BUT you CAN CHANGE the path for yourself & for your child b/c it is not too late. You can either stay b/c you "love" him & feel it worth it to stay OR you can leave, atleast until he maps out where his priorities are.
Minus all the vindictiveness, you'd be suprised at how much you two women have in common. And looking at this situation from the outside looking in, there appears to be 2 women who are conflicting with the men in their lives & b/c they don't want to let go, they chose to point the finger at eachother, rather than the true source of all of the drama.
You knew a long time ago that she was vindictive & the reason it's bothering you so much now to the point where you're thinking about giving up, is b/c your man is little by little showing his true emotions & is willing to throw you under the bus just to win a battle with someone else. And while yes, it is admirable to see a father who is so struck on getting custody of his child, it's not necessarily cute HOW he's planning on doing so at your expense. The key is to NOT make excuses for him. I mean let's be real, it's not like she can take the baby to Iraq with her. And I'm assuming that her going to Iraq is already set in motion, so her knowing about you will of course piss her off, BUT I don't believe that it'll piss her off SO bad that he won't be able to get custody of his son, at the end of it all. If he's just trying to avoid all the drama with her, then he should've thought about that before he laid down with her that night 13-14 years ago. If anything, the longer he keeps your pregnancy from his ex, the more wrath you're BOTH going to feel when she finally does find out. You guys are all adults & since he made the decision to lay down with you & feel you worthy enough to make his woman of 4 years, then he needs to now step up his game (even if that means dealing with more drama) & still PROVE that he finds you & your unborn child worthy enough. If anything, him seeing her true colors should be even MORE motivation for him to tell her, piss her off a little but STILL come out as the winner. A man that feels he's made the right decision won't have to hide his decision.
You knew a long time ago that she was vindictive & the reason it's bothering you so much now to the point where you're thinking about giving up, is b/c your man is little by little showing his true emotions & is willing to throw you under the bus just to win a battle with someone else. And while yes, it is admirable to see a father who is so struck on getting custody of his child, it's not necessarily cute HOW he's planning on doing so at your expense. The key is to NOT make excuses for him. I mean let's be real, it's not like she can take the baby to Iraq with her. And I'm assuming that her going to Iraq is already set in motion, so her knowing about you will of course piss her off, BUT I don't believe that it'll piss her off SO bad that he won't be able to get custody of his son, at the end of it all. If he's just trying to avoid all the drama with her, then he should've thought about that before he laid down with her that night 13-14 years ago. If anything, the longer he keeps your pregnancy from his ex, the more wrath you're BOTH going to feel when she finally does find out. You guys are all adults & since he made the decision to lay down with you & feel you worthy enough to make his woman of 4 years, then he needs to now step up his game (even if that means dealing with more drama) & still PROVE that he finds you & your unborn child worthy enough. If anything, him seeing her true colors should be even MORE motivation for him to tell her, piss her off a little but STILL come out as the winner. A man that feels he's made the right decision won't have to hide his decision.
You know what P Angel, I'm sure you will have a sure place in Hell. You calling my unborn baby a bastard is really uncalled for. Let me tell you something P my feeling aren't hurt I'm really starting to see a different side of Scorpio that is why i have been proceeding with caution with him. I never set back and accept anything from this man and that was made clear upfront. This is one of the reasons he says he loves me so much. He knows i will Leave him today and NEVER!Look back!
Now to all the other who still doesn't get it......Scorpio has a 13 year old son and 17year old daughter. The Virgo sent the daughter away to live with the gradmother. The Virgo Ex still has the son. The son WANTS to live with his dad. As i have said they live in two seperate states. The Virgo is contemplateing letting her own son go to Scorpio. Before they even got married, he told me he was sitting on the beach with some of his friends (this was years ago before they got married) Virgo thought he was flirting with a girl. He sadi when he got back to him room Virgo had cut up his clothes. That should have been his first red flag with her but he married her anyways. There are more crazy thibgs she has don so you can't blame this behavior on the military.
Another thing, i was told by my doctor that i could not have anymore kids. I have a 14 year old son so i was very content. This baby that i am carrying is a miracle baby to me. I am not so blinded by love that i won;t do what i need to do to seperate myself from the drama. Now. Every one else is kissin Virgo butt. I'm Not the One! I will take her and her crazyness head -to head. I Do Not Fear. I have not given Scorpio a wedding date,..Scorpio does not have a key to my house and this is why and i am so happy that i did not fall prey to him. Scorpio and his Ex -Virgo are crazy so mayb they deserve each other. This Aquarius will Always BeAlrite.
Now to all the other who still doesn't get it......Scorpio has a 13 year old son and 17year old daughter. The Virgo sent the daughter away to live with the gradmother. The Virgo Ex still has the son. The son WANTS to live with his dad. As i have said they live in two seperate states. The Virgo is contemplateing letting her own son go to Scorpio. Before they even got married, he told me he was sitting on the beach with some of his friends (this was years ago before they got married) Virgo thought he was flirting with a girl. He sadi when he got back to him room Virgo had cut up his clothes. That should have been his first red flag with her but he married her anyways. There are more crazy thibgs she has don so you can't blame this behavior on the military.
Another thing, i was told by my doctor that i could not have anymore kids. I have a 14 year old son so i was very content. This baby that i am carrying is a miracle baby to me. I am not so blinded by love that i won;t do what i need to do to seperate myself from the drama. Now. Every one else is kissin Virgo butt. I'm Not the One! I will take her and her crazyness head -to head. I Do Not Fear. I have not given Scorpio a wedding date,..Scorpio does not have a key to my house and this is why and i am so happy that i did not fall prey to him. Scorpio and his Ex -Virgo are crazy so mayb they deserve each other. This Aquarius will Always BeAlrite.
Sorry for typos, typing fast
"You know what P Angel, I'm sure you will have a sure place in Hell. You calling my unborn baby a bastard is really uncalled for."
I'm sure I will .... however, the fact that you carry a bastard child in your womb really has nothing to do with my appointment in Hell .. it might yours though.
You had said that you won't live together until you are married, and you say this, presumably to sound like you have high standards and morals ... like it would be indecent or inproper to live with a man out of wedlock .. and then carry his bastard child?
And then get upset because someone recognizes that the child is illegimate?
Sounds like your problems go way beyong a Virgo woman scorned because her ex Scorpion played her.
I'm sure I will .... however, the fact that you carry a bastard child in your womb really has nothing to do with my appointment in Hell .. it might yours though.
You had said that you won't live together until you are married, and you say this, presumably to sound like you have high standards and morals ... like it would be indecent or inproper to live with a man out of wedlock .. and then carry his bastard child?
And then get upset because someone recognizes that the child is illegimate?
Sounds like your problems go way beyong a Virgo woman scorned because her ex Scorpion played her.
If anyone has problems its very obvious that its you.
"Now to all the other who still doesn't get it ...."
Now to you, who still doesn't get it BlueAqua .... you say these things, as they are told to you by the Scorpion.
"Every one else is kissin Virgo butt. I'm Not the One! I will take her and her crazyness head -to head."
What?
Oh so now .. he even has you willing to fulfill his drama for him, like he got Virgo to respond to.
The fact that it's the Scorpio who is the playing manipulator in this scenerio has escaped your senses ..... even when you actually believe it's you who wants to go head-to-head with an ex, just after you've defended your dignity in not being that way.
:::: shakes head ::::::
Now to you, who still doesn't get it BlueAqua .... you say these things, as they are told to you by the Scorpion.
"Every one else is kissin Virgo butt. I'm Not the One! I will take her and her crazyness head -to head."
What?
Oh so now .. he even has you willing to fulfill his drama for him, like he got Virgo to respond to.
The fact that it's the Scorpio who is the playing manipulator in this scenerio has escaped your senses ..... even when you actually believe it's you who wants to go head-to-head with an ex, just after you've defended your dignity in not being that way.
:::: shakes head ::::::
mhmmm...I know what i need to do.
Have a nice life P-going to hell. Thanks everyone else for your comments.
Have a nice life P-going to hell. Thanks everyone else for your comments.
"Ok so i'm 5 weeks pregnant with my Scorpio fiance's baby (to our Surprise). It was unexpected but we are very Happy."
I must say, I am completely astounished at people's ignorance.
This above quote is said .. and then the following paragraph, and follow up posts gives testimony of all the things happening that makes the couple unhappy.
1. Is this a joint custody with the son involved? If not, what type of custody does the mother have
Joint
^^^^^ if custody is actually, legally, joint .. and she deploys to Iraq, then he will automtically get his children while she is away. There is no legal action he needs to seek to get this kids .. excuse me, he only wants his son.
For the fact that he has to fight for custody is evidence that it isn't joint.
You believe everything he tells you, don't you?
Ignorance seems like an odd trait for an Aquarius ... are you sure you know when you were born?
I must say, I am completely astounished at people's ignorance.
This above quote is said .. and then the following paragraph, and follow up posts gives testimony of all the things happening that makes the couple unhappy.
1. Is this a joint custody with the son involved? If not, what type of custody does the mother have
Joint
^^^^^ if custody is actually, legally, joint .. and she deploys to Iraq, then he will automtically get his children while she is away. There is no legal action he needs to seek to get this kids .. excuse me, he only wants his son.
For the fact that he has to fight for custody is evidence that it isn't joint.
You believe everything he tells you, don't you?
Ignorance seems like an odd trait for an Aquarius ... are you sure you know when you were born?
My friend at work is married to a virgo chick...he hates her with a passion and she's threatening him day in day out..to get him beaten up and all sorts if he leaves her. They have 2 girls, and he's staying in the marriage because he is scared she'll screw him over financially (as she has done previously)...they can be extremely psychotic when hurt..or perceived hurt..or whatever really...she sounds like a bloody nightmare...fancy staying in a marriage like that...but he knows she will not let him have access to her children so he's staying put.
Are you retarded?? He was never seeking legal action to get his son. I'm far from ignorant. Have you ever heard of Karma??
"9. You mentioned you've been w/scorp for 4 years - how many of those years living with him?
I've never. I refuse to do so untill we are married."
But, you'll carry a child out of wedlock?
What the fuck are you playing at here?
I've never. I refuse to do so untill we are married."
But, you'll carry a child out of wedlock?
What the fuck are you playing at here?
lol, it's not me in here upset because my baby is a man's dirty little secret.
How's your karma?
How's your karma?
"Are you retarded?? He was never seeking legal action to get his son. I'm far from ignorant."
Far from it you say?
Let's see .. you don't know the definition of bastard .. and your whole upset in here is because this man wants to kiss this womans ass, and telling you it's because he wants to get his son from her without any problems, because he thinks if he rocks any boats with her then she will prevent him from getting his son.
Then you proceed to say that she is in the military and getting ready to be deployed to Iraq, and you tell us that he has joint custody of his son.
Put those two together = she HAS to leave, no option w/ he is then the legal guardian of his son
And this escapes you ..... so much so that you believe it when he tells you that your baby must remain a secret .. as he manipuates you into wanting to go head-to-head with an ex.
For reals .. this is like Jerry Springer kind of shit.
Far from it you say?
Let's see .. you don't know the definition of bastard .. and your whole upset in here is because this man wants to kiss this womans ass, and telling you it's because he wants to get his son from her without any problems, because he thinks if he rocks any boats with her then she will prevent him from getting his son.
Then you proceed to say that she is in the military and getting ready to be deployed to Iraq, and you tell us that he has joint custody of his son.
Put those two together = she HAS to leave, no option w/ he is then the legal guardian of his son
And this escapes you ..... so much so that you believe it when he tells you that your baby must remain a secret .. as he manipuates you into wanting to go head-to-head with an ex.
For reals .. this is like Jerry Springer kind of shit.
You want all this to stop?
Then stop being so gullible .. he's playing you, big time, just like he did her.
I'd be willing to wager that if you ever by-passed him and went straight to her, you'd find the truth to be way different than what he's been telling you.
I'd be willing to wager that he's been stringing her along, making her think that she still has a chance with him.
Then stop being so gullible .. he's playing you, big time, just like he did her.
I'd be willing to wager that if you ever by-passed him and went straight to her, you'd find the truth to be way different than what he's been telling you.
I'd be willing to wager that he's been stringing her along, making her think that she still has a chance with him.
P, Scorpio is not playn me, he's playn himself. I have told him to go back to her and put his family back together. He says he don't want her. They don't get along,.They've already tried to work it out. He's in love, loves me and wants to spend his life with me. Now, with all this drama i'm not sure how i feel right now.
Perhaps, you should consider an abortion .. it sounds like you aren't ready for this, since you told him to go back to her.
Wow, change of subject .. I'm sitting here watching birds attack a squirrel who is trying to climb up the pole to the birdhouse my husband erected in the backyard. There are 2 of them, I guess dad and mom birds, and they are swooping down in attack mode at this poor squirrel who only wanted some juicy eggs to eat for lunch.
Wow, change of subject .. I'm sitting here watching birds attack a squirrel who is trying to climb up the pole to the birdhouse my husband erected in the backyard. There are 2 of them, I guess dad and mom birds, and they are swooping down in attack mode at this poor squirrel who only wanted some juicy eggs to eat for lunch.
I thought squirrels were vegetarians.
Amused — Perhaps.
In that case .. he has done absolutely nothing wrong and doesn't deserve her being upset with him.
If you have a relationship and during this time, you have set terms providing a behaviour to be permittable for 4 years ... then you can't suddenly decide this condition is no longer permittable, because if you do, then it means you are in breach of relationship terms.
I doubt that is the case ... for she doesn't even know that if he has joint custody of the children, then he doesn't have to prove anything to her ... whether or not she approves of his current relationship with pregnant Aqua has no bearing on whether he has a right to his children ... yet, she is believing this to be so, based on him telling her this. In fact, she has based her whole judgement of Virgo's character based on what he has told her.
And he is a rejected, dumped Scorpio ... my god it doesn't get more evil than that. A Scorpio on a vengence will "say" anything, suddenly their honesty that they pat themselves on the back with disappears, and they will lie their asses off if the Stinger comes out, which stuns even thier own brains.
Apparantly, I am the only one thinking about this from a logical standpoint ... this Scorpio has been written off by the Virgo in terms of his value or importance as a parent .. and you people actually believe that what he's telling this Aqua comes from rationale?
He fucking pissed to high heaven ..... this is WHY the drama has been carrying on for 4 years.
Geez ...... show me one Scorpio who is civil when they are on avengence, and I'll eat me hat.
In that case .. he has done absolutely nothing wrong and doesn't deserve her being upset with him.
If you have a relationship and during this time, you have set terms providing a behaviour to be permittable for 4 years ... then you can't suddenly decide this condition is no longer permittable, because if you do, then it means you are in breach of relationship terms.
I doubt that is the case ... for she doesn't even know that if he has joint custody of the children, then he doesn't have to prove anything to her ... whether or not she approves of his current relationship with pregnant Aqua has no bearing on whether he has a right to his children ... yet, she is believing this to be so, based on him telling her this. In fact, she has based her whole judgement of Virgo's character based on what he has told her.
And he is a rejected, dumped Scorpio ... my god it doesn't get more evil than that. A Scorpio on a vengence will "say" anything, suddenly their honesty that they pat themselves on the back with disappears, and they will lie their asses off if the Stinger comes out, which stuns even thier own brains.
Apparantly, I am the only one thinking about this from a logical standpoint ... this Scorpio has been written off by the Virgo in terms of his value or importance as a parent .. and you people actually believe that what he's telling this Aqua comes from rationale?
He fucking pissed to high heaven ..... this is WHY the drama has been carrying on for 4 years.
Geez ...... show me one Scorpio who is civil when they are on avengence, and I'll eat me hat.
Who in the hell do you think you are telling me what I am, or am not allowed to do with my own children ..... HOW DARE YOU !!!!!!!
Eternal punishment commences !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (a bazillion exclamation points follow)
^^^^^^^ so, I'm the only one who can recognize that this is happening with this particular Scorpio?
:::: shakes head :::::
Even Scorpios themselves cannot recognize it? Com'on seriously ... don't you all know that ordinarily, you would rather perfere not having conflict and would therefore seek a peaceful solution, and the only time you prefer animosity is when you are on the warpath?
It is out of character for Scorpio to go 4 years .... 4 fucking years .. fighting with another person .... that is to say, IF they weren't seeking vengence.
And at this time, during the vengence, during the begrudging, is when BlueAqua is being told this extremely bias side of events.
:::: shakes head ::::
People are inherenty ignorant, I've no doubt about that .... because if you tap into their feelings and piss them off .... the get really, really stupid, and really don't care that they do.
Eternal punishment commences !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (a bazillion exclamation points follow)
^^^^^^^ so, I'm the only one who can recognize that this is happening with this particular Scorpio?
:::: shakes head :::::
Even Scorpios themselves cannot recognize it? Com'on seriously ... don't you all know that ordinarily, you would rather perfere not having conflict and would therefore seek a peaceful solution, and the only time you prefer animosity is when you are on the warpath?
It is out of character for Scorpio to go 4 years .... 4 fucking years .. fighting with another person .... that is to say, IF they weren't seeking vengence.
And at this time, during the vengence, during the begrudging, is when BlueAqua is being told this extremely bias side of events.
:::: shakes head ::::
People are inherenty ignorant, I've no doubt about that .... because if you tap into their feelings and piss them off .... the get really, really stupid, and really don't care that they do.
You guys are crazy 😉
Posted by P-Angel
Amused — Perhaps. In that case .. he has done absolutely nothing wrong and doesn't deserve her being upset with him. If you have a relationship and during this time, you have set terms providing a behaviour to be permittable for 4 years ... then you can't suddenly decide this condition is no longer permittable, because if you do, then it means you are in breach of relationship terms. I doubt that is the case ... for she doesn't even know that if he has joint custody of the children, then he doesn't have to prove anything to her ... whether or not she approves of his current relationship with pregnant Aqua has no bearing on whether he has a right to his children ... yet, she is believing this to be so, based on him telling her this. In fact, she has based her whole judgement of Virgo's character based on what he has told her. And he is a rejected, dumped Scorpio ... my god it doesn't get more evil than that. A Scorpio on a vengence will "say" anything, suddenly their honesty that they pat themselves on the back with disappears, and they will lie their asses off if the Stinger comes out, which stuns even thier own brains. Apparantly, I am the only one thinking about this from a logical standpoint ... this Scorpio has been written off by the Virgo in terms of his value or importance as a parent .. and you people actually believe that what he's telling this Aqua comes from rationale? He fucking pissed to high heaven ..... this is WHY the drama has been carrying on for 4 years. Geez ...... show me one Scorpio who is civil when they are on avengence, and I'll eat me hat.
i have to agree i seen scorpio in action and i know myself as a virgo if i get hurt ur going to pay to. and this look like a pin pong match.
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