Can someone please help me with this Taurus man?

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Hi first time poster here. :-)

A couple of months ago I reached out to a coworkers estranged husband for the safety of their children. She started using meth and abusing the kids in the 6 months they'd been separated so I found him via social media and supplied him proof. He was grateful, thanked me numerous times, and initiated a strong custody case. I wished him the best and figured that would be it. Well it wasn't. He inboxed me the next day to inform me of what happened when he called Child Protective Services and we started to get to know each other a little. And so it began...we talked every single day for the next month and a half and had so much in common we ended up finishing each other's thoughts and referring to the other as our "wondertwin". He took me to the best restaurants in town, brought me back my favorite rare snack from a trip and even invited me to Vegas with him. He even told me he didn't open up to anyone like he did with me ever except his family. Now while all this was going on he told me he wanted to take it slow because of his recent divorce and the affect it had on him and his children. Of course I tried to be supportive even though this confused me, but after more mixed signals it proved to be too much so I tried to back off which he was NOT going to let happen. The ex is actually friends with my roommates and it became common knowledge that I helped initiate the case which made them my ex roommates pretty quickly. I had other arrangements but my new place wouldn't be ready for a week. Now this is where everything kinda falls apart ...He offered to save me the storage fees by keeping my furniture in his garage, and he also offered his home to me for the week. During that week I did what I imagine any grateful houseguest would do...cooked and cleaned up. I knew his favorite meals so I cooked them. I knew his favorite music so I played it. I left him alone when he got home because he has a stressful job and I figured he might like to be left in peace to eat his meal and listen to his music especially since he's stressed about the divorce. We only slept together twice that week (we hadn't before then) but it was amazing and he even told me he had never climaxed so hard in his life. By the last couple days my "friend" was using pet names like babe and mama when referring to me, and I even made plans for his birthday. When the week was up I left, and by the end of the next week he was barely talking to me. The next weekend I went out with my sister, drunk dialed him and proceeded to tell him EXACTLY how I felt about his wishy washy bs to which he replied with accusations of my pressuring and projecting feelings onto him. That was it...nothing for another week. This time from either of us. He still followed my social media though, and reached out when my cousin died. After two weeks of not speaking I finally told him we needed to talk, and when we did he laid all his flaws out and immediately apologized for the mixed signals and being so confused. I apologized for my actions, but not my feelings and reassured him that I didn't want to not speak to him as life is too short (my cousin recently dying made me think). He agreed and told me as he has before that he's not going anywhere and he wants to be a part of my life for as long as possible and to please be patient with him. Sooo...yeah...that's my story, and even though I'm happy we're on semi talking terms I still don't feel safe with him like I did before. Can you guys help with some tips on how to deal? Thanks in advance for reading this long thing and navigating this madness with me.
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Tips on what?

Who reaches out to a coworker's estranged husband with a custody case that CLEARLY had nothing to do with them?

I'm not buying your half-ass story.

You are manipulative and methodical.

You knew after you shared that piece of information that it wasn't going to be the end of it.

Why would it?

He told you that he wanted to take things slow.

You weren't being the 'graceful' houseguest, you were trying to 'solidify' your position instead.... even after he told you he didn't want to rush into anything out of concern for his children and pending divorce,which makes perfect sense.

He wasn't sending you mixed signals, he saw right through your bull***sh*t!

As for wining and dining you, taking care of your storage fees, letting you stay at his place for a week, it's called 'consideration' and being a 'gentleman.' He's a Taurus man.....making sure you're taken cared of is not far fetched for a man of this zodiac sign.

Now you're contemplating whether or not you should reconsider this relationship?

Get over yourself.

You worked hard to get it.

So put on your grown woman draws and simply get over yourself.

See where this goes.
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After two weeks of not speaking I finally told him we needed to talk, and when we did he laid all his flaws out and immediately apologized for the mixed signals and being so confused. I apologized for my actions, but not my feelings and reassured him that I didn't want to not speak to him as life is too short (my cousin recently dying made me think). He agreed and told me as he has before that he's not going anywhere and he wants to be a part of my life for as long as possible and to please be patient with him.

Can you guys help with some tips on how to deal?
You don't need our help. Your able to manipulate an apology from him, your obviously capable of controlling the situation. Just know that since you initiated its entirely possible that he's being insincere.



Let me ask you, when you moved in for that week were his kids in the house?

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@WonderingWanderer,

I don't believe this woman was a co-worker.

I believe that she was one of your close friends.

a. You witnessed her kids grow up

b. You were close enough to her to take those 'incriminating' photos and show them to her estranged husband.

c. Your ex roomates (ex friends as well) thought your actions were sneaky and underhanded. ( I believe that all of you were close friends).

This woman may be a meth-head....

You see...but you....

You have no scruples, and loyalty to no one but yourself.

It was never about those children.

You were serving your own self interests.

Take that 'fake' morality somewhere else.

I'm an Earth sign, you're not fooling anyone.
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@taurusbull1977 i get this weird vibe that OP was interested in hubby from the get. she coulda called CPS but instead, actively sought him out thru social media. that’s all a lil too invested, i think.
Of course she was.

Any law abiding citizen would have contacted CPS first, but notice...she didn't.

If someone contacted me through social media with some incriminating information about an ex,why would that be it?

She KNEW he was going to encourage some dialogue afterwards.

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Okay...answers.

I am a Virgo.

Cooking and cleaning...I do this for my best friend when I crash crash at her place and I used to do the same for my brother and sister. Definitely not trying to marry them it's just a thing I do.

I called him instead of CPS because I didn't know her new address. Initially I did call the cops who informed me the house address I gave them was empty.

No. Nutting hard af means nothing when gauging(?) a relationship, but when he mentioned the reasons he was confused that was one of them. He said he thought he could handle everything until that so I figured it was important info. Too bad I didn't explain clearly at first.

As far as waiting it out I think I'm good. You all said I didn't need your help, but you did help. You helped me see how he may have been perceiving all this. And if he saw any of this like you guys I'll be waiting forever.

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Okay...answers.

I am a Virgo.

Cooking and cleaning...I do this for my best friend when I crash crash at her place and I used to do the same for my brother and sister. Definitely not trying to marry them it's just a thing I do.

I called him instead of CPS because I didn't know her new address. Initially I did call the cops who informed me the house address I gave them was empty.

No. Nutting hard af means nothing when gauging(?) a relationship, but when he mentioned the reasons he was confused that was one of them. He said he thought he could handle everything until that so I figured it was important info. Too bad I didn't explain clearly at first.

As far as waiting it out I think I'm good. You all said I didn't need your help, but you did help. You helped me see how he may have been perceiving all this. And if he saw any of this like you guys I'll be waiting forever.


I just think you're expecting too much from this guy... emotionally, physically, mentally. Like he JUST split up with his ex and is having to deal with CPS, meth and abuse? holyfck!!! Give the guy a minute. This isn't about and won't be about you for a looooong time. Just be ready for that.

Its not cool how you wiggled your way in their life and situation, but whatever works for ya. Just know that, you have brought more upon yourself than you needed to. It does sound like you aren't loyal, but then again most virgos I know aren't so no hard feelings, but its like was all of this REALLY necessary? Like your goal was to help out the kids and then you ended up sleeping with their dad?? some help. This is what we see when we read your post and why you came across like you did. You could've just let him know and be smart, go about your day and get yourself a single Taurus man that could give you what you need.
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Okay...answers.

I am a Virgo.

Cooking and cleaning...I do this for my best friend when I crash crash at her place and I used to do the same for my brother and sister. Definitely not trying to marry them it's just a thing I do.

I called him instead of CPS because I didn't know her new address. Initially I did call the cops who informed me the house address I gave them was empty.

No. Nutting hard af means nothing when gauging(?) a relationship, but when he mentioned the reasons he was confused that was one of them. He said he thought he could handle everything until that so I figured it was important info. Too bad I didn't explain clearly at first.

As far as waiting it out I think I'm good. You all said I didn't need your help, but you did help. You helped me see how he may have been perceiving all this. And if he saw any of this like you guys I'll be waiting forever.


I just think you're expecting too much from this guy... emotionally, physically, mentally. Like he JUST split up with his ex and is having to deal with CPS, meth and abuse? holyfck!!! Give the guy a minute. This isn't about and won't be about you for a looooong time. Just be ready for that.

Its not cool how you wiggled your way in their life and situation, but whatever works for ya. Just know that, you have brought more upon yourself than you needed to. It does sound like you aren't loyal, but then again most virgos I know aren't so no hard feelings, but its like was all of this REALLY necessary? Like your goal was to help out the kids and then you ended up sleeping with their dad?? some help. This is what we see when we read your post and why you came across like you did. You could've just let him know and be smart, go about your day and get yourself a single Taurus man that could give you what you need.
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Okay did you not read the part where I went omw and he hmu the next day and the day after and the day after? And tbh 1. He isn't my type physically(but clearly I'm attracted now). and 2. I had only seen him in passing before all this. So no I didn't have any designs on this man. I didn't become attracted until after we'd talked for a while. And of course I knew the roommates were gonna kick me out after ratting out their friend. Was I supposed to wait for it? Umm no. I packed and gtfo. Anyway, I had NEVER dealt with a Taurus before so yeah I figured it was kinda early and we met in a weird way, but it seemed like what he wanted so I went for it. Yes what he wanted...I guess nobody read the part where I tried to back up from the whole thing and he wasn't having it— I blocked him on social media AND I blocked his number and he came to my house to see "if we were cool". So yeah...how tf was I supposed to gather that I was the one doing too much?

But anyway like I said, I see what the disconnect was. Thanks for helping me see it from a completely different perspective.
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Okay...answers.

I am a Virgo.

Cooking and cleaning...I do this for my best friend when I crash crash at her place and I used to do the same for my brother and sister. Definitely not trying to marry them it's just a thing I do.

I called him instead of CPS because I didn't know her new address. Initially I did call the cops who informed me the house address I gave them was empty.

No. Nutting hard af means nothing when gauging(?) a relationship, but when he mentioned the reasons he was confused that was one of them. He said he thought he could handle everything until that so I figured it was important info. Too bad I didn't explain clearly at first.

As far as waiting it out I think I'm good. You all said I didn't need your help, but you did help. You helped me see how he may have been perceiving all this. And if he saw any of this like you guys I'll be waiting forever.


I just think you're expecting too much from this guy... emotionally, physically, mentally. Like he JUST split up with his ex and is having to deal with CPS, meth and abuse? holyfck!!! Give the guy a minute. This isn't about and won't be about you for a looooong time. Just be ready for that.

Its not cool how you wiggled your way in their life and situation, but whatever works for ya. Just know that, you have brought more upon yourself than you needed to. It does sound like you aren't loyal, but then again most virgos I know aren't so no hard feelings, but its like was all of this REALLY necessary? Like your goal was to help out the kids and then you ended up sleeping with their dad?? some help. This is what we see when we read your post and why you came across like you did. You could've just let him know and be smart, go about your day and get yourself a single Taurus man that could give you what you need.
Okay did you not read the part where I went omw and he hmu the next day and the day after and the day after? And tbh 1. He isn't my type physically(but clearly I'm attracted now). and 2. I had only seen him in passing before all this. So no I didn't have any designs on this man. I didn't become attracted until after we'd talked for a while. And of course I knew the roommates were gonna kick me out after ratting out their friend. Was I supposed to wait for it? Umm no. I packed and gtfo. Anyway, I had NEVER dealt with a Taurus before so yeah I figured it was kinda early and we met in a weird way, but it seemed like what he wanted so I went for it. Yes what he wanted...I guess nobody read the part where I tried to back up from the whole thing and he wasn't having it— I blocked him on social media AND I blocked his number and he came to my house to see "if we were cool". So yeah...how tf was I supposed to gather that I was the one doing too much?

But anyway like I said, I see what the disconnect was. Thanks for helping me see it from a completely different perspective.
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OMG!!!

the more i read your story, the more i want to weep. what a sad story! poor you.

between children that are being abused, you doing all that you possibly could to see that they are taken out of harms way, being kicked out of your home and then you found yourself in a situation where you felt compelled to sleep with this (initially unattractive) man because he wanted it. then after you did, (and he came very hard) that he stopped talking to you. it's clear you're a very giving person and you got nothing for your efforts.

you have really been through the ringer with this him and his entire family. even the children play a part in it if you look at it.

you confess your feelings to him one drunken evening and you get silence. your cousin dies and yes, that got you a little contact but nothing substantial.

you cooked, you cleaned, you put out and this is the thanks you get. he was only supposed to be helping you out while your other place became free and you had the share his bed as well? was that part of the deal? did he force himself on you? did he feel like you owed it to him? god, some men are just awful. just awful!

and now here you are, looking for help and everyone is picking on you. when will you get a break huh?
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Okay...answers.

I am a Virgo.

Cooking and cleaning...I do this for my best friend when I crash crash at her place and I used to do the same for my brother and sister. Definitely not trying to marry them it's just a thing I do.

I called him instead of CPS because I didn't know her new address. Initially I did call the cops who informed me the house address I gave them was empty.

No. Nutting hard af means nothing when gauging(?) a relationship, but when he mentioned the reasons he was confused that was one of them. He said he thought he could handle everything until that so I figured it was important info. Too bad I didn't explain clearly at first.

As far as waiting it out I think I'm good. You all said I didn't need your help, but you did help. You helped me see how he may have been perceiving all this. And if he saw any of this like you guys I'll be waiting forever.


I just think you're expecting too much from this guy... emotionally, physically, mentally. Like he JUST split up with his ex and is having to deal with CPS, meth and abuse? holyfck!!! Give the guy a minute. This isn't about and won't be about you for a looooong time. Just be ready for that.

Its not cool how you wiggled your way in their life and situation, but whatever works for ya. Just know that, you have brought more upon yourself than you needed to. It does sound like you aren't loyal, but then again most virgos I know aren't so no hard feelings, but its like was all of this REALLY necessary? Like your goal was to help out the kids and then you ended up sleeping with their dad?? some help. This is what we see when we read your post and why you came across like you did. You could've just let him know and be smart, go about your day and get yourself a single Taurus man that could give you what you need.
Okay did you not read the part where I went omw and he hmu the next day and the day after and the day after? And tbh 1. He isn't my type physically(but clearly I'm attracted now). and 2. I had only seen him in passing before all this. So no I didn't have any designs on this man. I didn't become attracted until after we'd talked for a while. And of course I knew the roommates were gonna kick me out after ratting out their friend. Was I supposed to wait for it? Umm no. I packed and gtfo. Anyway, I had NEVER dealt with a Taurus before so yeah I figured it was kinda early and we met in a weird way, but it seemed like what he wanted so I went for it. Yes what he wanted...I guess nobody read the part where I tried to back up from the whole thing and he wasn't having it— I blocked him on social media AND I blocked his number and he came to my house to see "if we were cool". So yeah...how tf was I supposed to gather that I was the one doing too much?

But anyway like I said, I see what the disconnect was. Thanks for helping me see it from a completely different perspective.

OMG!!!

the more i read your story, the more i want to weep. what a sad story! poor you.

between children that are being abused, you doing all that you possibly could to see that they are taken out of harms way, being kicked out of your home and then you found yourself in a situation where you felt compelled to sleep with this (initially unattractive) man because he wanted it. then after you did, (and he came very hard) that he stopped talking to you. it's clear you're a very giving person and you got nothing for your efforts.

you have really been through the ringer with this him and his entire family. even the children play a part in it if you look at it.

you confess your feelings to him one drunken evening and you get silence. your cousin dies and yes, that got you a little contact but nothing substantial.

you cooked, you cleaned, you put out and this is the thanks you get. he was only supposed to be helping you out while your other place became free and you had the share his bed as well? was that part of the deal? did he force himself on you? did he feel like you owed it to him? god, some men are just awful. just awful!

and now here you are, looking for help and everyone is picking on you. when will you get a break huh?

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Okay...answers.

I am a Virgo.

Cooking and cleaning...I do this for my best friend when I crash crash at her place and I used to do the same for my brother and sister. Definitely not trying to marry them it's just a thing I do.

I called him instead of CPS because I didn't know her new address. Initially I did call the cops who informed me the house address I gave them was empty.

No. Nutting hard af means nothing when gauging(?) a relationship, but when he mentioned the reasons he was confused that was one of them. He said he thought he could handle everything until that so I figured it was important info. Too bad I didn't explain clearly at first.

As far as waiting it out I think I'm good. You all said I didn't need your help, but you did help. You helped me see how he may have been perceiving all this. And if he saw any of this like you guys I'll be waiting forever.


I just think you're expecting too much from this guy... emotionally, physically, mentally. Like he JUST split up with his ex and is having to deal with CPS, meth and abuse? holyfck!!! Give the guy a minute. This isn't about and won't be about you for a looooong time. Just be ready for that.

Its not cool how you wiggled your way in their life and situation, but whatever works for ya. Just know that, you have brought more upon yourself than you needed to. It does sound like you aren't loyal, but then again most virgos I know aren't so no hard feelings, but its like was all of this REALLY necessary? Like your goal was to help out the kids and then you ended up sleeping with their dad?? some help. This is what we see when we read your post and why you came across like you did. You could've just let him know and be smart, go about your day and get yourself a single Taurus man that could give you what you need.
Okay did you not read the part where I went omw and he hmu the next day and the day after and the day after? And tbh 1. He isn't my type physically(but clearly I'm attracted now). and 2. I had only seen him in passing before all this. So no I didn't have any designs on this man. I didn't become attracted until after we'd talked for a while. And of course I knew the roommates were gonna kick me out after ratting out their friend. Was I supposed to wait for it? Umm no. I packed and gtfo. Anyway, I had NEVER dealt with a Taurus before so yeah I figured it was kinda early and we met in a weird way, but it seemed like what he wanted so I went for it. Yes what he wanted...I guess nobody read the part where I tried to back up from the whole thing and he wasn't having it— I blocked him on social media AND I blocked his number and he came to my house to see "if we were cool". So yeah...how tf was I supposed to gather that I was the one doing too much?

But anyway like I said, I see what the disconnect was. Thanks for helping me see it from a completely different perspective.
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I did read that part but you clearly DO NOT GET that as soon as you sent your initial message, you did not need to talk to him any longer. period.
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Well damn y'all...was I supposed to just let the kids get abused? I mean I've known them for years and watched them grow up, but I guess you're all right. I should've just not done anything...wtf? And yeah I did kinda think that'd be it. Why would he just keep talking to me if it didn't have anything to do with the cps case? Sorry but none of that was manipulation. Anyway to the poster who said too much too fast and I'm a rebound, thanks. You didn't attack me and even though it sucks to hear it makes sense. I guess thanks to the people who weren't so nice too. It's always interesting to see how others see you I guess...even if I am seen as a manipulative bullshitter. *shrugs*
Manipulative bs in the sense that your story is incredibly one-sided, that's all.

It's just we see this all the time until you finally loosen up to tell the real deal.

Case in point

"During that week I did what I imagine any grateful houseguest would do..."

sounds like the setup to a porn scene.

Anyway I've no real input. All I see is you got involved when he's going through a weak moment, predatorial at worst, or just poor boundaries at best. Those aren't strong odds for anything long-term if that's what you were asking.
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agreed. He is going through a lot and you should not involve yourself expecting for him to make you a priority. not yet. he knows whats best for him and his kids and its not getting involved with a new women. shame on you.