Cancer Woman and Taurus Man - Known for 17 years

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divinekarma625
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Hey all,

I am new here...so I hope I am in the right area. I've known my Taurus for 17 years now, since jr. high. I am 31 and he's 30. We have been on and off for the past 10 years. We were solid for two years and I broke it off because I found out he was cheating on me with another woman. The relationship failed and he came back to me. We continued to be off and on. Another woman always comes into the equation and he starts acting different - as if I wronged him. It's happened 3 times and I know I should have left a while ago, but my hearts always winning.

To make a long story short we now have a 3 year old daughter and all was well and we were trying to "work it out". Well apparently it didn't work so well. Come to find out while he was spending time with me he was dating another woman for the past 8 months and didn't say one peep. Only reason I found out is because I snooped - I know. He was acting "funny" again so I broke into his voicemail and I heard this woman proclaiming her love for him. I confronted him about it and he stated he never wanted to have anything to with me because I invaded his privacy. This time around I am glad I found out that I was being betrayed however, we were friends before romance was involved.

He's so furious with me he's taking it out on our daughter and refuses to see her. He treats me like I am the enemy and is giving me the cold shoulder. I've apologized and to no avail nothing is working. I want him to be there for our daughter more than anything. Yes I miss him, but I can get over it. I just found out a few days ago he's now engaged with this libra woman who's 6 years his senior and I am devastated. I really have no choice, but to move on. What it boils down to at this point, is there anything I can say or do to get this stubborn taurus man to at least be the friend I once knew and proactive in his daughter's life—
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I have no idea because from everything you've said it seems like he's a chronic asshole. I don't think assholes can be fixed. He'll probably have kids with the new honey and will resent any money and time he has to spend on the kid he has with you.

What I find disturbing is how much you defend his bad behavior. You're apologizing for snooping when your gut told you something was going on. DON"T FEEL BAD FOR SNOOPING!! You proved your instinct was right!!

As a Cancer who chose to divorce an Taurus, all I can say is count yourself lucky he's moved on! I wish mine would. But he's an abusive, controlling pathetic excuse for a man, so there you go.

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He is deeply in the wrong. Go to court, get child support and other in place.
Get your head right. Early days I know. He is not your friend. No friend of mine is a lying cheat who involves a small child to hurt me even more viciously than the previous behavior.
You cannot force someone to be a Dad, unfortunately. Again, this may well be a blessing. That lamb doesn't need to grow up thinking subterfuge, pain and emotional upheaval are 'normal'. Feel me?
Hug that blossom tight and get on with what needs done.
Vent here when you have need.
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Posted by aquansidenout
There are unevolved taurus (my aries sister husband) and evolved taurus men. Regardless a taurus never changes especially when they see no need to. With unevolved taurus men they are selfish, stubborn and vengeful.



^^^^This^^^^^^

He's an unevolved Taurus man which simply means don't waste any more time and energy on that piece of shit.

Traits of an unevolved Taurus...

Hedonistic
User
Cheater
Possibly abusive
Alcoholics
Vengeful
Selfish.


Run!

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Posted by aquansidenout
There are unevolved taurus (my aries sister husband) and evolved taurus men. Regardless a taurus never changes especially when they see no need to. With unevolved taurus men they are selfish, stubborn and vengeful.



^^^^This^^^^^^

He's an unevolved Taurus man which simply means don't waste any more time and energy on that piece of shit.

Traits of an unevolved Taurus...

Hedonistic
User
Cheater
Possibly abusive
Alcoholics
Vengeful
Selfish.


Run!

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My ex husband in a nutshell. Yes, RUN!! Don't look back except to protect your back. Don't waste tears on him, don't feel sorry for him, just be glad you don't have more kids with him or more wasted years. Look to a brighter future for you and your child. All the rest will fall into place when it needs to.
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CYA approach. Look out for the bairns best interest. And your own. *tapping head*
Have it all documented and in its right place.
He missteps go back to court. Doesn't show, document it. Doesn't pay support, go to the Prosecuting Attorney.
If he means to make you feel helpless don't believe a word of it.
If he makes a new life with someone else, so what. Give it your blessing and realize you got the best of him in your arms.
His cheating and lies, his crap. It isn't on you, let it belong to the next fool.
Learn yourself. Accept your hand in it and lay waste to the rest. Hell yes have a good long cry, get angry.
Have a lovely fire and feed things into it breaking ties. Any of it, all of it. At the end of the day you realize it was over long beforehand. Pride. Ego. These suffer most, more than a heart.
Last, but by no means least never and I mean never let it make you afraid of genuine and honest love. Can't have that shadowing things can we? No. If you do that means that person still has a hold of you. Ain't got time for that mess eh? Damned right you don't.
Reclaim your natural and given power. Reclaim you.
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Posted by venusianbull
CYA approach. Look out for the bairns best interest. And your own. *tapping head*
Have it all documented and in its right place.
He missteps go back to court. Doesn't show, document it. Doesn't pay support, go to the Prosecuting Attorney.
If he means to make you feel helpless don't believe a word of it.
If he makes a new life with someone else, so what. Give it your blessing and realize you got the best of him in your arms.
His cheating and lies, his crap. It isn't on you, let it belong to the next fool.
Learn yourself. Accept your hand in it and lay waste to the rest. Hell yes have a good long cry, get angry.
Have a lovely fire and feed things into it breaking ties. Any of it, all of it. At the end of the day you realize it was over long beforehand. Pride. Ego. These suffer most, more than a heart.
Last, but by no means least never and I mean never let it make you afraid of genuine and honest love. Can't have that shadowing things can we? No. If you do that means that person still has a hold of you. Ain't got time for that mess eh? Damned right you don't.
Reclaim your natural and given power. Reclaim you.


+1

If he wants to act like an a-hole about being a dad nothing you can do but do the best for you and your child. Get child support going and move on with your life. It's a hard pill to swallow but we cannot fix these broken men. Concentrate on your baby and YOU be that rock. Good luck.
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Posted by MoonArtist
I have no idea because from everything you've said it seems like he's a chronic asshole. I don't think assholes can be fixed. He'll probably have kids with the new honey and will resent any money and time he has to spend on the kid he has with you.

What I find disturbing is how much you defend his bad behavior. You're apologizing for snooping when your gut told you something was going on. DON"T FEEL BAD FOR SNOOPING!! You proved your instinct was right!!

As a Cancer who chose to divorce an Taurus, all I can say is count yourself lucky he's moved on! I wish mine would. But he's an abusive, controlling pathetic excuse for a man, so there you go.



I know! he's definitely and asshole! No doubt! It just frustrates me that he would be such a B*tch when it comes to our daughter! Majority of the time dealing with him brings out the crazy side of me!!!
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All you guys are awesome!!! I will take in all of this advice!!! Me being the cancer I am, regardless of the relationship I hate losing!!! Sometimes I feel evil as all hell!! I have filed all the proper court paperwork and he's even more upset. I don't understand how a man can get upset behind having to pay child support. I could take him to court because we already made visitation arrangements last year he has yet to abide to. I hate the fact that things have to be THIS hard. I'd rather get along and move the eff on with my life just like he has. I am always left in the cold, but this time it's not just me....our daughter too.
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Yes. And truly how offensive to a mother. Sincerely. How they oil off like a tom cat and seemingly forget the children they fathered. Even to the point of getting angry over paying support like you held onto his sperm like a cockroach and bore them in some corner. Trying to be Captain America for the new family. Rather makes you want to sick up onto your socks.
Let's see. The children were 18, 10 and 11 when I got divorced, and that dance was evident in early stages. Still is as he called off this weekend.
Point is, now your job is to take care of her emotionally. No 'daddy is a ____' rants. Smarter to just be silent until a visit is secure. I have seen faces fall when 'daddy can't make it.' then 'Say. He can't come so why don't we have some fun. Go swimming and see Gran.'
Don't raise hopes. My son at 17 now is old enough to make his own decisions about his father.
Children are smart, intuitive and lovely beings. Never for one second think that child doesn't sense what is going on. That she doesn't hear phone convo, etc.
Now is the time to keep it in business terms. A merged with B created C. Your interest is C and B defaulted. Convo to him is about C and nothing more.
It is not your job any longer to pay him any sort of emotional attention. You are not his confidant, his crutch or his wailing wall. That is over. Done. Boy, BYE.
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Posted by venusianbull
Yes. And truly how offensive to a mother. Sincerely. How they oil off like a tom cat and seemingly forget the children they fathered. Even to the point of getting angry over paying support like you held onto his sperm like a cockroach and bore them in some corner. Trying to be Captain America for the new family. Rather makes you want to sick up onto your socks.
Let's see. The children were 18, 10 and 11 when I got divorced, and that dance was evident in early stages. Still is as he called off this weekend.
Point is, now your job is to take care of her emotionally. No 'daddy is a ____' rants. Smarter to just be silent until a visit is secure. I have seen faces fall when 'daddy can't make it.' then 'Say. He can't come so why don't we have some fun. Go swimming and see Gran.'
Don't raise hopes. My son at 17 now is old enough to make his own decisions about his father.
Children are smart, intuitive and lovely beings. Never for one second think that child doesn't sense what is going on. That she doesn't hear phone convo, etc.
Now is the time to keep it in business terms. A merged with B created C. Your interest is C and B defaulted. Convo to him is about C and nothing more.
It is not your job any longer to pay him any sort of emotional attention. You are not his confidant, his crutch or his wailing wall. That is over. Done. Boy, BYE.



I think we were married to the same man haha. I had so much hatred towards him but let me tell you I feel soooo much better letting it all go and dismissing him. Luckily my kids are old enough to deal with him themselves. And I guess I'm getting too old for the games and drama, which is what he's all about. Gross.

OP, you can do it. You are strong. And you are WOMAN! 🙂
Sorry, just had to throw that in there hehe.
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divinekarma625
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Posted by venusianbull
Yes. And truly how offensive to a mother. Sincerely. How they oil off like a tom cat and seemingly forget the children they fathered. Even to the point of getting angry over paying support like you held onto his sperm like a cockroach and bore them in some corner. Trying to be Captain America for the new family. Rather makes you want to sick up onto your socks.
Let's see. The children were 18, 10 and 11 when I got divorced, and that dance was evident in early stages. Still is as he called off this weekend.
Point is, now your job is to take care of her emotionally. No 'daddy is a ____' rants. Smarter to just be silent until a visit is secure. I have seen faces fall when 'daddy can't make it.' then 'Say. He can't come so why don't we have some fun. Go swimming and see Gran.'
Don't raise hopes. My son at 17 now is old enough to make his own decisions about his father.
Children are smart, intuitive and lovely beings. Never for one second think that child doesn't sense what is going on. That she doesn't hear phone convo, etc.
Now is the time to keep it in business terms. A merged with B created C. Your interest is C and B defaulted. Convo to him is about C and nothing more.
It is not your job any longer to pay him any sort of emotional attention. You are not his confidant, his crutch or his wailing wall. That is over. Done. Boy, BYE.



This just put a smile on my face :-) I am ready to do exactly what you mentioned, I was just telling my co worker exactly what you said - nothing but business and I won't give her false hopes for a visit. I just drives me nuts when she's calling for him.
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Posted by divinekarma625
I know! he's definitely and asshole! No doubt! It just frustrates me that he would be such a B*tch when it comes to our daughter! Majority of the time dealing with him brings out the crazy side of me!!!

All you guys are awesome!!! I will take in all of this advice!!! Me being the cancer I am, regardless of the relationship I hate losing!!! Sometimes I feel evil as all hell!! I have filed all the proper court paperwork and he's even more upset. I don't understand how a man can get upset behind having to pay child support. I could take him to court because we already made visitation arrangements last year he has yet to abide to. I hate the fact that things have to be THIS hard. I'd rather get along and move the eff on with my life just like he has. I am always left in the cold, but this time it's not just me....our daughter too.



Woohoo for filing the proper papers! You know, though, if he REALLY isn't interested in seeing his daughter and you have to fight tooth and nail to get it to happen then maybe she's better off not seeing him and just letting him not visit. Just don't let him dodge on child support.
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Posted by venusianbull
Yes. And truly how offensive to a mother. Sincerely. How they oil off like a tom cat and seemingly forget the children they fathered. Even to the point of getting angry over paying support like you held onto his sperm like a cockroach and bore them in some corner. Trying to be Captain America for the new family. Rather makes you want to sick up onto your socks.
Let's see. The children were 18, 10 and 11 when I got divorced, and that dance was evident in early stages. Still is as he called off this weekend.
Point is, now your job is to take care of her emotionally. No 'daddy is a ____' rants. Smarter to just be silent until a visit is secure. I have seen faces fall when 'daddy can't make it.' then 'Say. He can't come so why don't we have some fun. Go swimming and see Gran.'
Don't raise hopes. My son at 17 now is old enough to make his own decisions about his father.
Children are smart, intuitive and lovely beings. Never for one second think that child doesn't sense what is going on. That she doesn't hear phone convo, etc.
Now is the time to keep it in business terms. A merged with B created C. Your interest is C and B defaulted. Convo to him is about C and nothing more.
It is not your job any longer to pay him any sort of emotional attention. You are not his confidant, his crutch or his wailing wall. That is over. Done. Boy, BYE.



Damn, the amount of shitty men in society is disgusting. Makes the ones who aren't seem like solid gold!
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Why would u keep running back to him when he cheated on you? And this time snooping around, when u KNEW exactly he was cheating, u were setting urself up for hurt again. Id say u should be happy with 'surface knowledge', if he treats u and the kid good when ure with him, that should be enough. He'll always want sides no matter what, its in a man's nature/instincts. If he really loved you tho then he wouldve been faithful and suppressed his urges, but even if he does love u theres always a possibility they'll go get sides :/
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Bullshittery. It's that mindset that is unnacceptable. Cheating is inexcusable. Period. No one accidentally slips onto someone elses groin. All the weak and tired slip it under the rug stuff is ridiculous. People should want more for themself. Be enough in control of self that they aren't leg humping like Chihuahuas or have their arse in the air like a cat in heat. Anyone who says they love someone and lays down for another needs keelhauled.
That's not love, it's selfishness and greed. A huge up yours to someone else with blatant disregard for another soul. Full stop.
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Posted by venusianbull
There are good men and great men out there Moon. Takes the salt to savor the sweet. It's always a helluva lesson for we women to learn what we truly need from a man in our life.
So poor in actions he is and was, but I can say 'thank you' and mean it.
Still being female I of course reserve the right to man bash him over a margarita. 😉



LMAOOO ex bashing does prove to be fun once in a while huh? Cleanses the soul lol. During my worse times I used to pray to God and wondered why my marriage failed, why on earth did I marry so wrong? But I know everything happens for a reason and my kids were the ultimate blessing that came out of it all. They can carry you so much further and give us moms so much strength. They are our foundation.