Does he genuinely care? How do I avoid hurt'g him?

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I've recently gotten involved with a Taurus sun, leo rising, Scorpio moon, venus in aries TM. I've become quite smitten of him and I think he has likewise become enamored in me. He was pretty straight forward in the beginning and then disappeared leaving me to wonder if he had a genuine interest in me or if he was just bored and I was something to do that day. I gave chase because of an intense attraction and finally captured my bull. Now that we have connected things are so different. He is always checking on me, concerned about me, telling me he misses me and loves me although I can not be entirely his. Complete 180. I recently made him privy to the fact that drama could be coming his way in light of some recent discoveries and in a sense I totally caused it. I felt awful and pretty much suggested we end things here. He said it was up to me. I said I'm stepping out/back. If you still want this you have to let me know. I figured it was over because of the drama that was sure to unfold and he made things clear in the beginning that he didn't want any problems. We hung up,I was sad but it had to be done. He contacted me 12 hrs later saying I don't want you to go. I want to be there for you and ride this thing out. I miss you and I really care about you. He's either sincerely open on me or he's a damn good actor. Is it likely that a TM could stick around with a person who #1 could never be entirely his (posessiveness) or has involved him in the type of drama that could cause him bodily harm or jeopardize his employment(calm, stability)? Should I be concerned, because this does not seem typical of a taurus. Or is this the calm before the storm and he is likely to run soon? How can I end things with him without hurting him. I feel that he could be in danger and I do not want anything to happen to him. I feel like I dragged him into this got him to open his heart which he guarded so heavily in the beginning. I love him too much to let him go and i love him too much to hurt him though I know it's for the best.
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I've recently gotten involved with a Taurus sun, leo rising, Scorpio moon, venus in aries TM. I've become quite smitten of him and I think he has likewise become enamored in me. He was pretty straight forward in the beginning and then disappeared leaving me to wonder if he had a genuine interest in me or if he was just bored and I was something to do that day. I gave chase because of an intense attraction and finally captured my bull. Now that we have connected things are so different. He is always checking on me, concerned about me, telling me he misses me and loves me although I can not be entirely his. Complete 180. I recently made him privy to the fact that drama could be coming his way in light of some recent discoveries and in a sense I totally caused it. I felt awful and pretty much suggested we end things here. He said it was up to me. I said I'm stepping out/back. If you still want this you have to let me know. I figured it was over because of the drama that was sure to unfold and he made things clear in the beginning that he didn't want any problems. We hung up,I was sad but it had to be done. He contacted me 12 hrs later saying I don't want you to go. I want to be there for you and ride this thing out. I miss you and I really care about you. He's either sincerely open on me or he's a damn good actor. Is it likely that a TM could stick around with a person who #1 could never be entirely his (posessiveness) or has involved him in the type of drama that could cause him bodily harm or jeopardize his employment(calm, stability)? Should I be concerned, because this does not seem typical of a taurus. Or is this the calm before the storm and he is likely to run soon? How can I end things with him without hurting him. I feel that he could be in danger and I do not want anything to happen to him. I feel like I dragged him into this got him to open his heart which he guarded so heavily in the beginning. I love him too much to let him go and i love him too much to hurt him though I know it's for the best.



Why can't you be his entirely? Are you married? I will say Taurus Sun with Moon in Scorpio don't run, my mom is a Taurus with Scorpio Moon. She is a fighter for what she wants and doesn't give up without giving her all. The other Taurus man I know is the same, if they love you they will ride through any storm.

That's j
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Why can't you be his entirely? Are you married? I will say Taurus Sun with Moon in Scorpio don't run, my mom is a Taurus with Scorpio Moon. She is a fighter for what she wants and doesn't give up without giving her all. The other Taurus man I know is the same, if they love you they will ride through any storm.

That's j



Yes she's married. Cheated on her devoted husband, who she has children with, and claims to have been fairly happy with. Was fairly cocky and nonchalant about it too.
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Watery Gem, yes I'm married but its a marriage of convienience. Im not happy inside. Dont think I can be because the feelings are not there. I have fallen in lust/love with a taurus who I currently care deeply for but knows there is no promising future for US due to several factors.

Tls yep I made this bed and I'm rolling all around in it. chickeny whatever that means to you if that's meant to be cowardly then no I'm no coward. Non chalant maybe I come off that way on keyboard but I care. My husband knows everything and I do mean EVERYTHING. He has forgiven me, believes it is a phase and is giving me time to work it through as I have expressed I love this guy and don't want to hurt him. He understands. he's hurt, was angry but That's why I'm with him. He is tolerant of all my perfect imperfections and loves me more because of them. When he initially found out he made threats and I told the bull because I would never want him to be caught off guard whether it was an empty threat or not. I was able to talk my husband out of it and as long as I agreed to stay and work things out, get help etc. He agreed not to touch him.

Not a drama queen. I may have created a perfect storm in which drama May be in the winds but never my purpose or intent. I don't thrive well in high drama.

I just want to end things with my Taurus in a way that doesn't leave him hurt or angry with me. Just not sure if im making too much of it or maybe he doesn't give that much of a treetreunk due to the circumstances and is just keeping me around because of the sex. That's not my gut but I've been wrong before.

oh lynow... more about the venusmin Aries running. This would be a perfect time for a dissappearing act. I suspect it may happen soon enough but the way things are going- unpredictable.
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Scorpiogyrl - at this point in life, honestly you just suck as a person. Please don't brag ever. You need to just look in the mirror and tell your self "Self, you suck." Start there. Getting past the denial is the first step.

And I know this will be hard to believe, but I say that in the most objective/detached/impersonal manner possible - not out of dislike for you. I've been there my self. You just need to believe it. The essential qualities are good and admirable for a wife and mother - you just don't have em, nor do you have the strength or integrity to strive for them at this point in your life. So you're going to take a huge fall. Pluto is going to fall to earth and land on your house, destroying you and everyone you claim to love.

Telling us how much you think your husband loves you and tolerates all the ways you suck just amplifies how much you suck. You love someone because they suck enough to love how you suck? Your life is apparently one giant circus of suck. You don't know what love is, as your utter failure when it comes to practicing it shows, and thus you aren't able to see that your husband doesn't really even love you. He just doesn't have a lot of self-esteem or self-respect and you are holding him hostage. He sucks so bad that he cannot give you the boot for how bad you suck. Your Taurus sucks because he is so dumb he doesn't see how bad you suck, etc. etc.

This message board can't help you.

There's a reason you suck, and its not just your Sag Moon. It goes deeper. I wish you well on your journey.
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TLS, my dear I certainly thank you for your detached objectiveness 🙂 although it doesn't help me much its certainly amusing and quite entertaining if nothing else.

Me? Suck? Say it and believe it? Baaaahaaaplhafhph! Never. Sorry you feel so negatively about me or the people who love me. Wanna add my married best friend to the mix who thinks that because I may or may not be having martial problems gives cause for her to confess her desire to be with--none other than yours truly. Not interested though.

Not sure that all these people (and these are just the ones that I mention) are wrong. So I could never believe I suck. Maybe some of my choices and or actions lately suck but certainly not me. Nothing you can tell me about the essence of a good mother. Cause if nothing else im a damn good mother and I only want what's best for my kids. They are well rounded well cared for and I'm OFTEN complimented on how great my kids are (behaviorwise academics, athletics)which reflect lets say it together- *parenting* my son was recently offered a football scholarship to one of the top/most expensive Catholic schools in our state. I had a complete stranger approach me from an oppising team to compliment me on the work I'm doing to raise such a manerable young man with incredible showmanship/sportmanlike conduct. I instilled those values into my kids as they are not raising themselves on autopilot. So check yourself and get out of your feelings because you were cheated on and you despise women who cheat... clearly you mustve fallen short and *clears throat* sucked in more than a few areas yourself 😉

Not bragging. I never have. I've only ever stated facts. But now because my husband is willing to forgive me he MUST have low self esteem and my bull must be sooo dumb because he's still around. Rotflmao! I tend to have this effect remember *special powers* hence why I could not understand why my effect took longer on the bull and why he didn't behave as I thought he should.

Karma? Karma just bought me a black BMW 745 yesterday as a Thank you for believing in our family present Now let me make you happy.

Why do I even bother to vent on this message board when everyone seems to be so self righteous, and become so offended by another persons choices. Don't mother treetrunking respond if u don't like it or have anything helpful to say.
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Well now that you've got your 'rocks off' so to speak and your new Beemer I guess you can go back to your 'marriage of convenience' and kiss your Taurus toy goodbye.
Not sure why you are even posting this. For that matter I'm not sure why I am even posting...LOL...I still can't believe any of this is even for real or what kind of reAction you are looking for. I'm certain you don't want advice. Feels more like bragging to me.
Carry on being you and good luck. Hope you stop hurting others some day.
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SCORP: its certainly amusing and quite entertaining if nothing else.

>>>Give it time; it'll sink in eventually.

SCORP: Sorry you feel so negatively about me or the people who love me.

>>>The bright side of accepting that you suck is that at least you're dealing with the truth. Its not purely negative. Like I said, I've been there and I'm sure I still am in a lot of areas. Your areas are just like the ones that we humans, fortunate enough to have been born with a heart, think are fairly severe.

SCORP: Wanna add my married best friend to the mix who thinks that because I may or may not be having martial problems gives cause for her to confess her desire to be with--none other than yours truly. Not interested though.

>>>First brag. I thought we went over this. And yes, she sucks too.

SCORP: Not sure that all these people (and these are just the ones that I mention) are wrong.

>>>Like attracts like.

SCORP: So I could never believe I suck.

>>>We know this already, silly. This is one of your suckiest qualities. You think the praise of people who suck makes you suck less. It doesn't. It only helps you to suck more.

SCORP: Maybe some of my choices and or actions lately suck but certainly not me.

>>>Oh wow, a glimmer of hope! Pay attention now: those choices/actions you want to distance your self from. THESE are you in the act of sucking! Just say it. You are really like 90% of the way there. We're debating semantics at this point. Qualify it if you need to: "*Lately* I suck." I suspect its been an ongoing issue for you, given how badly you currently suck, but I really don't know. Either way, the truth will set you free.

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SCORP: Nothing you can tell me about the essence of a good mother.

>>>Well, yeah, there's a lot actually. May not be anything your self-defense mechanisms and extraordinary powers of denial will allow you to actually contemplate though. And you might need a conscience as well....But here are some of the basics. A good mother protects her family. She is wise and understands that her entire family is connected in love, and her actions towards anyone in the family will affect everyone in the family in some way. She would never EVER be foolish enough to think that breaking her husband's heart because she wanted to fuck a random guy, is not going to affect her children in some way. Its not even anything mystical. Its very practical and obvious. You break someone's heart and you affect their capacity to love others, particularly those closest to them. Further, if they see it, they love that person, and they feel the person's pain.

SCORP: Cause if nothing else im a damn good mother and I only want what's best for my kids.

>>>Ask your kids if they think its in their best interest to break their father's heart. Since you feel no shame according to the other thread, let them know you fucked the grocery store boy just because you felt like it.

**Snip all that nonsense about football***

Firstly, who cares? Could you say anything more superficial and irrelevant? The suck really is strong with you. Billy throws a good spiral. Someone who doesn't know you or your boy complimented you (—!!!!). LOL. Congratulations. Mom of the year. Reward yourself by banging the grocery bag boy.

Oh, and I count at least 3 more brags in there. Keep sucking.

SCORP: So check yourself and get out of your feelings because you were cheated on and you despise women who cheat...

>>>Close, but not quite. I despise someone who cheats and has no conscience about it, brags about it even. My ex who cheated is still one of my closest friends. She, like you, and like me, had one of these crazy magnetic/emotional connections. She, unlike you, had a conscience though. She was extremely remorseful, ashamed, and still is, and I have completely forgiven her. And yes, I fully admit that I sucked a lot in my first marriage. I could go into detail, and have here actually. Again, getting past the denial is the first step.

SCORP: Not bragging. I never have.

>>>Lies. See above on denial.

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SCORP: I've only ever stated facts. But now because my husband is willing to forgive me he MUST have low self esteem and my bull must be sooo dumb because he's still around. Rotflmao!

>>>Now here you are getting closer to the facts. I hear the laugh but its got more than a hint of crazy in it.

SCORP: I tend to have this effect remember *special powers* hence why I could not understand why my effect took longer on the bull and why he didn't behave as I thought he should.

>>>Yes, I'm sure you were Cleopatra in a past life. You had trouble bagging the bag boy in this one, but hey, you're a little rusty is all. How many brags is this now? I'm losing count.

SCORP: Karma? Karma just bought me a black BMW 745 yesterday as a Thank you for believing in our family present Now let me make you happy.

>>>Please try to type a sentence that doesn't make you sound even more superficial than you already do. And now you are bragging that your husband bought you a BMW for banging another man, before the wet spot on the sheets has even dried? Yep, he's a keeper. Nothing sick about this situation at all. He clearly doesn't suck. This is a man with good boundaries and self respect. He's absolutely not enabling your ego-driven soul-less whorishness in the least. Did he tint the windows for you so you can stalk your bull more effectively?

SCORP: Why do I even bother to vent on this message board when everyone seems to be so self righteous, and become so offended by another persons choices. Don't mother treetrunking respond if u don't like it or have anything helpful to say.

>>>Um, no one here is going to 'help' you destroy your family further. You don't even need any more help; you are an expert. But I'm helping you more than you know. I should bill you. Truth hurts. The best therapist your hubby can buy knows this, and he is definitely not going to give it to you straight because he'll want you to keep coming back.
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TLS, I see you have way too much time on your hands *eyerolls while LOL'ing* BTW the windows are getting tinted once the weather clears (its been raining these past couple days).

SOOOOO *yawns* on that note thanks for I guess nothing... oh but the laughs-- priceless.

Yes this story is so real. Why would I make this butter up? I can't talk to real people about this so I share with you Internet LOSERS who have nothing else to do but put way too much time and effort into other people's problems. You couldn't pay for greater entertainment!

Keep it up... I'll enjoy from afar. When I have the time of course. *blows kisses and sashays back to scorpio threads*
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TLS, I see you have way too much time on your hands *eyerolls while LOL'ing* BTW the windows are getting tinted once the weather clears (its been raining these past couple days).

SOOOOO *yawns* on that note thanks for I guess nothing... oh but the laughs-- priceless.

Yes this story is so real. Why would I make this butter up? I can't talk to real people about this so I share with you Internet LOSERS who have nothing else to do but put way too much time and effort into other people's problems. You couldn't pay for greater entertainment!

Keep it up... I'll enjoy from afar. When I have the time of course. *blows kisses and sashays back to scorpio threads*



Hey, at least you read it. FYI - I type 90+ wpm, so not much of a time commitment here. And its ok to get your windows tinted while its raining. You just can't roll them down. So head on in; maybe you'll meet someone special.
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I just Flagged her post. Maybe that will get this garbage off of DXPNET LOL



Aww...but it was just getting good!
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It was just warming up!!

I wanted to see if she got her windows tinted by the shelf stacker 😉

Perhaps the husband knows his wife well and sees that a new BMW will keep the narcissistic woman 'happy' and away from him so he can carry on playing golf and shagging his secretary who does show him appreciation and who massages his man ego sufficiently. If he hadn't been doing that then I bet he will be off doing that now. She wouldn't have a clue. Those Gemini's are cold, fickle fuckers at times!
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I just Flagged her post. Maybe that will get this garbage off of DXPNET LOL



Aww...but it was just getting good!



It was just warming up!!

I wanted to see if she got her windows tinted by the shelf stacker 😉
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I was eager to learn if after having her windows tinted she is stopped on the street by complete strangers to tell her what an amazing tint job she's had. But not bragging like.
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The bragging has to be her Sag Moon. I know SO many Sags that brag like this - all superficial nonsense that they think other's care about, but only reflecting the areas in life where they are insecure.



Hey! I have a sag moon. I would never do the kind of stuff she has and then be arrogant in its admission!

I think you were right the first time. It's because she sucks.
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Posted by jeane
Posted by cancergoddess143
I just Flagged her post. Maybe that will get this garbage off of DXPNET LOL



Aww...but it was just getting good!



It was just warming up!!

I wanted to see if she got her windows tinted by the shelf stacker 😉

Perhaps the husband knows his wife well and sees that a new BMW will keep the narcissistic woman 'happy' and away from him so he can carry on playing golf and shagging his secretary who does show him appreciation and who massages his man ego sufficiently. If he hadn't been doing that then I bet he will be off doing that now. She wouldn't have a clue. Those Gemini's are cold, fickle fuckers at times!
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Doing golf and shagging other women behind wifey's back, sounds like Tiger Woods. 😄
ironically his top three dominant is gemini.
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The bragging has to be her Sag Moon. I know SO many Sags that brag like this - all superficial nonsense that they think other's care about, but only reflecting the areas in life where they are insecure.



Hey! I have a sag moon. I would never do the kind of stuff she has and then be arrogant in its admission!

I think you were right the first time. It's because she sucks.
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Ok, I will lay off the Sag Moon. I'm with a Sag, w/Sag stellium. Nothing against them in general. This kind of bragging, not about cheating but just like random things that she thinks are gold stars for her, *does* seem Sag-ish to me though. I have a LOT of Sag friends. I will just chalk it up to her sucking though.
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I just Flagged her post. Maybe that will get this garbage off of DXPNET LOL



Aww...but it was just getting good!



It was just warming up!!

I wanted to see if she got her windows tinted by the shelf stacker 😉

Perhaps the husband knows his wife well and sees that a new BMW will keep the narcissistic woman 'happy' and away from him so he can carry on playing golf and shagging his secretary who does show him appreciation and who massages his man ego sufficiently. If he hadn't been doing that then I bet he will be off doing that now. She wouldn't have a clue. Those Gemini's are cold, fickle fuckers at times!



Doing golf and shagging other women behind wifey's back, sounds like Tiger Woods. 😄
ironically his top three dominant is gemini.
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Exactly!

My mother is a Gemini. Nuff said!
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Ok, I will lay off the Sag Moon. I'm with a Sag, w/Sag stellium. Nothing against them in general. This kind of bragging, not about cheating but just like random things that she thinks are gold stars for her, *does* seem Sag-ish to me though. I have a LOT of Sag friends. I will just chalk it up to her sucking though.



Just between you and me, sometimes I think I am a bit of a braggart. Keep that to yourself though. 😉
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Ok, I will lay off the Sag Moon. I'm with a Sag, w/Sag stellium. Nothing against them in general. This kind of bragging, not about cheating but just like random things that she thinks are gold stars for her, *does* seem Sag-ish to me though. I have a LOT of Sag friends. I will just chalk it up to her sucking though.



Just between you and me, sometimes I think I am a bit of a braggart. Keep that to yourself though. 😉
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Leo Moon here. Absolutely NO judgment! LOL.

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Ok can all of us 'Internet LOSERS' please ignore this woman now and stop giving her any more attention.

And Scorpygurl just keep sashaying that ass past the scorpio board please and thank you...



LOL...trying....really hard for me to stop once I get going....

hahahhahha...
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Oh tls I didn't mean just you, I meant all of us...although she did get you snorting and pawing and rampaging and tossing your horns around a bit, lol
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Ok can all of us 'Internet LOSERS' please ignore this woman now and stop giving her any more attention.

And Scorpygurl just keep sashaying that ass past the scorpio board please and thank you...



LOL...trying....really hard for me to stop once I get going....

hahahhahha...



Oh tls I didn't mean just you, I meant all of us...although she did get you snorting and pawing and rampaging and tossing your horns around a bit, lol
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LOL, I was not "rampaging"...hahahah