Why would you get upset that someone didn’t want to be friends with you if you established you didn’t want a relationship! Is it to string along for a fwb or you really want to be friends! How can we take you serious if you like someone
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for me, its because I really want to be friends....love is love...if we have a connection, a chemistry, whatever, it doesn't need to be sexual at all....if I feel for someone, I like having them in my life, will do pretty much anything for them if they have a need, etc. I do get offended if someone doesn't want a friendship, but they want to rush into romance....I don't really get it, but I know a lot of women are on a schedule to find a mate and procreate, and they feel like you're wasting their time, etc....

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for me, its because I really want to be friends....love is love...if we have a connection, a chemistry, whatever, it doesn't need to be sexual at all....if I feel for someone, I like having them in my life, will do pretty much anything for them if they have a need, etc. I do get offended if someone doesn't want a friendship, but they want to rush into romance....I don't really get it, but I know a lot of women are on a schedule to find a mate and procreate, and they feel like you're wasting their time, etc....
she is already up the spout by him.
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for me, its because I really want to be friends....love is love...if we have a connection, a chemistry, whatever, it doesn't need to be sexual at all....if I feel for someone, I like having them in my life, will do pretty much anything for them if they have a need, etc. I do get offended if someone doesn't want a friendship, but they want to rush into romance....I don't really get it, but I know a lot of women are on a schedule to find a mate and procreate, and they feel like you're wasting their time, etc....
Do you take that as a rejection they don’t want to be your friend ?

Posted by PurtyWingzFly2Posted by Metatron
for me, its because I really want to be friends....love is love...if we have a connection, a chemistry, whatever, it doesn't need to be sexual at all....if I feel for someone, I like having them in my life, will do pretty much anything for them if they have a need, etc. I do get offended if someone doesn't want a friendship, but they want to rush into romance....I don't really get it, but I know a lot of women are on a schedule to find a mate and procreate, and they feel like you're wasting their time, etc....
Do you take that as a rejection they don’t want to be your friend ?click to expand
yes, absolutely....happened recently....could be my arrogance but I also think its foolish to throw everything away bc we just don't fit into that box...I'm a much better friend than I am a partner anyway; romantic relationships bring out the worst sides of me tbh...there are very few people that can actually tolerate me long term....

Posted by ImpulsvPosted by Metatron
for me, its because I really want to be friends....love is love...if we have a connection, a chemistry, whatever, it doesn't need to be sexual at all....if I feel for someone, I like having them in my life, will do pretty much anything for them if they have a need, etc. I do get offended if someone doesn't want a friendship, but they want to rush into romance....I don't really get it, but I know a lot of women are on a schedule to find a mate and procreate, and they feel like you're wasting their time, etc....
It’s not so much rushing to get into a relationship
Is that if you have feelings you invest your end up getting more hurt
It’s a huge gamble on pain if nothing comes of it.click to expand
friendship is closer to everything than it is to nothing IME...has always lasted longer than romantic love for me....there are women I've been friends with, that I felt were so beautiful, so amazing etc., that I knew not to get involved with romantically, or even think about them in that way, bc it woud destroy the relatoinship altogether, and I respected them too much and valued the friendship too much to do that....

Posted by edgelordPosted by MetatronPosted by PurtyWingzFly2Posted by Metatron
for me, its because I really want to be friends....love is love...if we have a connection, a chemistry, whatever, it doesn't need to be sexual at all....if I feel for someone, I like having them in my life, will do pretty much anything for them if they have a need, etc. I do get offended if someone doesn't want a friendship, but they want to rush into romance....I don't really get it, but I know a lot of women are on a schedule to find a mate and procreate, and they feel like you're wasting their time, etc....
Do you take that as a rejection they don’t want to be your friend ?
yes, absolutely....happened recently....could be my arrogance but I also think its foolish to throw everything away bc we just don't fit into that box...I'm a much better friend than I am a partner anyway; romantic relationships bring out the worst sides of me tbh...there are very few people that can actually tolerate me long term....
sometimes you say shit and i wonder why you're a scorpio and not a taurus. lmaoclick to expand
lol I'm actually a Taurus lol....you've been gone for a while....that's been out for quite some time....too much to get into and don't want to derail thread but the reasons for my troll are buried in my post history somewhere lol....old account was TLS...

Posted by ImpulsvPosted by MetatronPosted by ImpulsvPosted by Metatron
for me, its because I really want to be friends....love is love...if we have a connection, a chemistry, whatever, it doesn't need to be sexual at all....if I feel for someone, I like having them in my life, will do pretty much anything for them if they have a need, etc. I do get offended if someone doesn't want a friendship, but they want to rush into romance....I don't really get it, but I know a lot of women are on a schedule to find a mate and procreate, and they feel like you're wasting their time, etc....
It’s not so much rushing to get into a relationship
Is that if you have feelings you invest your end up getting more hurt
It’s a huge gamble on pain if nothing comes of it.
friendship is closer to everything than it is to nothing IME...has always lasted longer than romantic love for me....there are women I've been friends with, that I felt were so beautiful, so amazing etc., that I knew not to get involved with romantically, or even think about them in that way, bc it woud destroy the relatoinship altogether, and I respected them too much and valued the friendship too much to do that....
Well it is always easier for the one who asks for freindship
Have u been on the other side?click to expand
not on the front end, no.....but yes, on the back end when it doesn't work out for the reasons I always felt it wouldn't....by that time severely attached/embedded in the other person, and then you have to go through hell, take years to truly recover, etc....
Posted by MetatronPosted by PurtyWingzFly2Posted by Metatron
for me, its because I really want to be friends....love is love...if we have a connection, a chemistry, whatever, it doesn't need to be sexual at all....if I feel for someone, I like having them in my life, will do pretty much anything for them if they have a need, etc. I do get offended if someone doesn't want a friendship, but they want to rush into romance....I don't really get it, but I know a lot of women are on a schedule to find a mate and procreate, and they feel like you're wasting their time, etc....
Do you take that as a rejection they don’t want to be your friend ?
yes, absolutely....happened recently....could be my arrogance but I also think its foolish to throw everything away bc we just don't fit into that box...I'm a much better friend than I am a partner anyway; romantic relationships bring out the worst sides of me tbh...there are very few people that can actually tolerate me long term....click to expand
Well it’s good that you acknowledge that. I think me and my Taurus bd is better off friends than lovers. Would you keep sex on the table or would you remove it altogether?

Posted by PurtyWingzFly2Posted by MetatronPosted by PurtyWingzFly2Posted by Metatron
for me, its because I really want to be friends....love is love...if we have a connection, a chemistry, whatever, it doesn't need to be sexual at all....if I feel for someone, I like having them in my life, will do pretty much anything for them if they have a need, etc. I do get offended if someone doesn't want a friendship, but they want to rush into romance....I don't really get it, but I know a lot of women are on a schedule to find a mate and procreate, and they feel like you're wasting their time, etc....
Do you take that as a rejection they don’t want to be your friend ?
yes, absolutely....happened recently....could be my arrogance but I also think its foolish to throw everything away bc we just don't fit into that box...I'm a much better friend than I am a partner anyway; romantic relationships bring out the worst sides of me tbh...there are very few people that can actually tolerate me long term....
Well it’s good that you acknowledge that. I think me and my Taurus bd is better off friends than lovers. Would you keep sex on the table or would you remove it altogether?click to expand
sex for me is the key issue....if we go that route, I get fully attached and the dysfunctional possessive/jealous, domineering, and controlling sides come fully into the foreground...so for me personally, no I am not going to do that to a friend....
Posted by MetatronPosted by PurtyWingzFly2Posted by MetatronPosted by PurtyWingzFly2Posted by Metatron
for me, its because I really want to be friends....love is love...if we have a connection, a chemistry, whatever, it doesn't need to be sexual at all....if I feel for someone, I like having them in my life, will do pretty much anything for them if they have a need, etc. I do get offended if someone doesn't want a friendship, but they want to rush into romance....I don't really get it, but I know a lot of women are on a schedule to find a mate and procreate, and they feel like you're wasting their time, etc....
Do you take that as a rejection they don’t want to be your friend ?
yes, absolutely....happened recently....could be my arrogance but I also think its foolish to throw everything away bc we just don't fit into that box...I'm a much better friend than I am a partner anyway; romantic relationships bring out the worst sides of me tbh...there are very few people that can actually tolerate me long term....
Well it’s good that you acknowledge that. I think me and my Taurus bd is better off friends than lovers. Would you keep sex on the table or would you remove it altogether?
sex for me is the key issue....if we go that route, I get fully attached and the dysfunctional possessive/jealous, domineering, and controlling sides come fully into the foreground...so for me personally, no I am not going to do that to a friend....click to expand
So you could never see your friend as a potential mate or you strictly on the friend zone level! Would you ever go out of your way to try to get that person back if they went their own way !?

Posted by ImpulsvPosted by MetatronPosted by PurtyWingzFly2Posted by MetatronPosted by PurtyWingzFly2Posted by Metatron
for me, its because I really want to be friends....love is love...if we have a connection, a chemistry, whatever, it doesn't need to be sexual at all....if I feel for someone, I like having them in my life, will do pretty much anything for them if they have a need, etc. I do get offended if someone doesn't want a friendship, but they want to rush into romance....I don't really get it, but I know a lot of women are on a schedule to find a mate and procreate, and they feel like you're wasting their time, etc....
Do you take that as a rejection they don’t want to be your friend ?
yes, absolutely....happened recently....could be my arrogance but I also think its foolish to throw everything away bc we just don't fit into that box...I'm a much better friend than I am a partner anyway; romantic relationships bring out the worst sides of me tbh...there are very few people that can actually tolerate me long term....
Well it’s good that you acknowledge that. I think me and my Taurus bd is better off friends than lovers. Would you keep sex on the table or would you remove it altogether?
sex for me is the key issue....if we go that route, I get fully attached and the dysfunctional possessive/jealous, domineering, and controlling sides come fully into the foreground...so for me personally, no I am not going to do that to a friend....
But if you already started?click to expand
everybody loses lol....
Sounds like what my Taurus bd was doing. He wanted to be friends and I was fine with that. We was having normal convos then all of the sudden he tries to call us fwb but I’m thinking he just wants to have sex but he says sex would be weird because there was too many feelings involved. I rejected him he got upset and we don’t talk. He reached out a month ago and that was that. So I don’t understand why would he get upset ?

Posted by PurtyWingzFly2Posted by MetatronPosted by PurtyWingzFly2Posted by MetatronPosted by PurtyWingzFly2Posted by Metatron
for me, its because I really want to be friends....love is love...if we have a connection, a chemistry, whatever, it doesn't need to be sexual at all....if I feel for someone, I like having them in my life, will do pretty much anything for them if they have a need, etc. I do get offended if someone doesn't want a friendship, but they want to rush into romance....I don't really get it, but I know a lot of women are on a schedule to find a mate and procreate, and they feel like you're wasting their time, etc....
Do you take that as a rejection they don’t want to be your friend ?
yes, absolutely....happened recently....could be my arrogance but I also think its foolish to throw everything away bc we just don't fit into that box...I'm a much better friend than I am a partner anyway; romantic relationships bring out the worst sides of me tbh...there are very few people that can actually tolerate me long term....
Well it’s good that you acknowledge that. I think me and my Taurus bd is better off friends than lovers. Would you keep sex on the table or would you remove it altogether?
sex for me is the key issue....if we go that route, I get fully attached and the dysfunctional possessive/jealous, domineering, and controlling sides come fully into the foreground...so for me personally, no I am not going to do that to a friend....
So you could never see your friend as a potential mate or you strictly on the friend zone level! Would you ever go out of your way to try to get that person back if they went their own way !?click to expand
friendship has turned into romance for me, and I think it can with bulls generally, but if its a situation where romantic feelings were shelved due to incompatibility, its more rare...typically I think it would only be if whatever issues were causing the hesitation in the first place could be fully resolved....its very hard to tell if a person is just bending to your will and becoming someone else to make a romance work (not a promising route for long-term success IMO), or if there's genuine resolution/compatibility though...
Posted by MetatronPosted by PurtyWingzFly2Posted by MetatronPosted by PurtyWingzFly2Posted by MetatronPosted by PurtyWingzFly2Posted by Metatron
for me, its because I really want to be friends....love is love...if we have a connection, a chemistry, whatever, it doesn't need to be sexual at all....if I feel for someone, I like having them in my life, will do pretty much anything for them if they have a need, etc. I do get offended if someone doesn't want a friendship, but they want to rush into romance....I don't really get it, but I know a lot of women are on a schedule to find a mate and procreate, and they feel like you're wasting their time, etc....
Do you take that as a rejection they don’t want to be your friend ?
yes, absolutely....happened recently....could be my arrogance but I also think its foolish to throw everything away bc we just don't fit into that box...I'm a much better friend than I am a partner anyway; romantic relationships bring out the worst sides of me tbh...there are very few people that can actually tolerate me long term....
Well it’s good that you acknowledge that. I think me and my Taurus bd is better off friends than lovers. Would you keep sex on the table or would you remove it altogether?
sex for me is the key issue....if we go that route, I get fully attached and the dysfunctional possessive/jealous, domineering, and controlling sides come fully into the foreground...so for me personally, no I am not going to do that to a friend....
So you could never see your friend as a potential mate or you strictly on the friend zone level! Would you ever go out of your way to try to get that person back if they went their own way !?
friendship has turned into romance for me, and I think it can with bulls generally, but if its a situation where romantic feelings were shelved due to incompatibility, its more rare...typically I think it would only be if whatever issues were causing the hesitation in the first place could be fully resolved....its very hard to tell if a person is just bending to your will and becoming someone else to make a romance work (not a promising route for long-term success IMO), or if there's genuine resolution/compatibility though...click to expand
What if feelings were involved but you right compatibility is the issue. So basically it takes fly you to let go of the situation even it’s not good for you. I told my bd that I wanted him to focus on his life and I had to cut him off because I didn’t want to be a distraction. He blocked me off every social media except fb? Is that normal ?? What’s up with that is it because his feelings were hurt ??

Posted by PurtyWingzFly2Posted by MetatronPosted by PurtyWingzFly2Posted by MetatronPosted by PurtyWingzFly2Posted by MetatronPosted by PurtyWingzFly2Posted by Metatron
for me, its because I really want to be friends....love is love...if we have a connection, a chemistry, whatever, it doesn't need to be sexual at all....if I feel for someone, I like having them in my life, will do pretty much anything for them if they have a need, etc. I do get offended if someone doesn't want a friendship, but they want to rush into romance....I don't really get it, but I know a lot of women are on a schedule to find a mate and procreate, and they feel like you're wasting their time, etc....
Do you take that as a rejection they don’t want to be your friend ?
yes, absolutely....happened recently....could be my arrogance but I also think its foolish to throw everything away bc we just don't fit into that box...I'm a much better friend than I am a partner anyway; romantic relationships bring out the worst sides of me tbh...there are very few people that can actually tolerate me long term....
Well it’s good that you acknowledge that. I think me and my Taurus bd is better off friends than lovers. Would you keep sex on the table or would you remove it altogether?
sex for me is the key issue....if we go that route, I get fully attached and the dysfunctional possessive/jealous, domineering, and controlling sides come fully into the foreground...so for me personally, no I am not going to do that to a friend....
So you could never see your friend as a potential mate or you strictly on the friend zone level! Would you ever go out of your way to try to get that person back if they went their own way !?
friendship has turned into romance for me, and I think it can with bulls generally, but if its a situation where romantic feelings were shelved due to incompatibility, its more rare...typically I think it would only be if whatever issues were causing the hesitation in the first place could be fully resolved....its very hard to tell if a person is just bending to your will and becoming someone else to make a romance work (not a promising route for long-term success IMO), or if there's genuine resolution/compatibility though...
What if feelings were involved but you right compatibility is the issue. So basically it takes fly you to let go of the situation even it’s not good for you. I told my bd that I wanted him to focus on his life and I had to cut him off because I didn’t want to be a distraction. He blocked me off every social media except fb? Is that normal ?? What’s up with that is it because his feelings were hurt ??click to expand
sounds like you both are just better off being acquaintences given that neither is willing to give what the other wants whether deeper friendship or romance...
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for me, its because I really want to be friends....love is love...if we have a connection, a chemistry, whatever, it doesn't need to be sexual at all....if I feel for someone, I like having them in my life, will do pretty much anything for them if they have a need, etc. I do get offended if someone doesn't want a friendship, but they want to rush into romance....I don't really get it, but I know a lot of women are on a schedule to find a mate and procreate, and they feel like you're wasting their time, etc....
Do you take that as a rejection they don’t want to be your friend ?
yes, absolutely....happened recently....could be my arrogance but I also think its foolish to throw everything away bc we just don't fit into that box...I'm a much better friend than I am a partner anyway; romantic relationships bring out the worst sides of me tbh...there are very few people that can actually tolerate me long term....
Well it’s good that you acknowledge that. I think me and my Taurus bd is better off friends than lovers. Would you keep sex on the table or would you remove it altogether?
sex for me is the key issue....if we go that route, I get fully attached and the dysfunctional possessive/jealous, domineering, and controlling sides come fully into the foreground...so for me personally, no I am not going to do that to a friend....
So you could never see your friend as a potential mate or you strictly on the friend zone level! Would you ever go out of your way to try to get that person back if they went their own way !?
friendship has turned into romance for me, and I think it can with bulls generally, but if its a situation where romantic feelings were shelved due to incompatibility, its more rare...typically I think it would only be if whatever issues were causing the hesitation in the first place could be fully resolved....its very hard to tell if a person is just bending to your will and becoming someone else to make a romance work (not a promising route for long-term success IMO), or if there's genuine resolution/compatibility though...
What if feelings were involved but you right compatibility is the issue. So basically it takes fly you to let go of the situation even it’s not good for you. I told my bd that I wanted him to focus on his life and I had to cut him off because I didn’t want to be a distraction. He blocked me off every social media except fb? Is that normal ?? What’s up with that is it because his feelings were hurt ??
sounds like you both are just better off being acquaintences given that neither is willing to give what the other wants whether deeper friendship or romance...click to expand
I tried to be his friend and I told him I was going thru a lot. I reached out to him. And no lie I think his mind is made up which is fine. I just want to be Corgel for our daughter. I’m not mad at him or anything. I just want to move around differently.
They just really value friendships. Before I got with my Taurus he mentioned something along the lines of not being able to sleep with me even though he was very attracted to me because he really valued our friendship and how grateful he was to have me in his life. By that time we had already established a strong friendship bond. Until we slept together lol. But it wasn’t as if I felt lead on. I think the sexual tension built up for so long we couldn’t hold it in any longer. I was well aware he didn’t want a relationship at the time. But after it happened he expressed deep regret and his fear of losing me. He really did value our friendship. I told him I wasn’t going to try to pressure him or force him into anything he didn’t want and I’d continue it for as long as I could handle it. I knew this could all crash and it could crash hard, but I was prepared to take the plummet. That I’d rather embrace the experience vs. harbor any regret of why I slept with him. The sex didn’t stop-I didn’t want it to. The chemistry was too strong and we had this magnetic attraction where we couldn’t keep away from each other. But through it all it never felt like an FWB. Instead, the opposite happened and we became closer, he invited me more to his family outings, spent more time together, etc.. I think this is what people mean when you let a relationship grow organically.
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They just really value friendships. Before I got with my Taurus he mentioned something along the lines of not being able to sleep with me even though he was very attracted to me because he really valued our friendship and how grateful he was to have me in his life. By that time we had already established a strong friendship bond. Until we slept together lol. But it wasn’t as if I felt lead on. I think the sexual tension built up for so long we couldn’t hold it in any longer. I was well aware he didn’t want a relationship at the time. But after it happened he expressed deep regret and his fear of losing me. He really did value our friendship. I told him I wasn’t going to try to pressure him or force him into anything he didn’t want and I’d continue it for as long as I could handle it. I knew this could all crash and it could crash hard, but I was prepared to take the plummet. That I’d rather embrace the experience vs. harbor any regret of why I slept with him. The sex didn’t stop-I didn’t want it to. The chemistry was too strong and we had this magnetic attraction where we couldn’t keep away from each other. But through it all it never felt like an FWB. Instead, the opposite happened and we became closer, he invited me more to his family outings, spent more time together, etc.. I think this is what people mean when you let a relationship grow organically.
Are you with him nowclick to expand
Yep, we are in an official relationship 🙂. He lets everyone know haha.
When a man really wants you, he'll make it happen. Sometimes it's a slow process.
I’m a person that likes the old fashion way of things. The courtship we grow a connection and see where things go. Sex isn’t a much need thing with me. I rather vibe abs someone stimulate my mind than rush into something. It was weird he would talk sexual to me so it confused me what it was. Clearly we had sex before but we wanted to slow things down. I know fwb doesn’t mean always sexual it can be what you want it to be but I feel like it was confusing and I didn’t want the confusion.

Posted by La_Dolce_Vita_ScorpioPosted by MetatronPosted by ImpulsvPosted by Metatron
for me, its because I really want to be friends....love is love...if we have a connection, a chemistry, whatever, it doesn't need to be sexual at all....if I feel for someone, I like having them in my life, will do pretty much anything for them if they have a need, etc. I do get offended if someone doesn't want a friendship, but they want to rush into romance....I don't really get it, but I know a lot of women are on a schedule to find a mate and procreate, and they feel like you're wasting their time, etc....
It’s not so much rushing to get into a relationship
Is that if you have feelings you invest your end up getting more hurt
It’s a huge gamble on pain if nothing comes of it.
friendship is closer to everything than it is to nothing IME...has always lasted longer than romantic love for me....there are women I've been friends with, that I felt were so beautiful, so amazing etc., that I knew not to get involved with romantically, or even think about them in that way, bc it woud destroy the relatoinship altogether, and I respected them too much and valued the friendship too much to do that....
Why do feel that you are a better friend than a partner ?
Not judging but just putting out a question for you- do you think it's the "expectations side of the partner/spouse relationship that brings out the worst in you? Maybe because you can say no to meet a friend but if your partner would want to meet up after a hard day at yiur work, it won't be as easy to say no ?
Just a thought
Are you a Scorpio? 🙂click to expand
I actually have an easier time saying no to my SO than a close friend....probably just too damaged from my upbringing....some people really are just not cut out for relationships that last a lifetime IMO....with friendship, I'm generous, thoughtful, supportive, rarely get into any disputes or arguments ever....not possessive or jealous at all, my friends come/go as they please and I don't put expectations on them....in romantic relationships, the jealous/possessive side rears its head, I do have expectations, get bored easily, my pride is ridiculous, I'm demanding/domineering, self-centered, can be verbally abusive, manipulative, often vindictive as well - basically every bad thing lol....I actually notice these qualities more as I get older ....pretty much every SO of mine has said I treat my friends better than I treat them....I also notice I have much stronger chemistry with people I am just flat out incompatible with in many ways....Smooth drama-free connections bore me to death. I have had a lot of good LTRs, and am thankful for the experiences, but I think the buildup of all these qualities over time eventually breaks the person....In my latters yrs, I've really been looking at the ways I sabotage things, and considering whether or not its intentional on some level, either bc I'm bored and desire change, or I'm just deeply skeptical in general of the kind of long term love/faithfulness people are looking for in marriage....I'm a taurus....

Posted by La_Dolce_Vita_ScorpioPosted by MetatronPosted by La_Dolce_Vita_ScorpioPosted by MetatronPosted by ImpulsvPosted by Metatron
for me, its because I really want to be friends....love is love...if we have a connection, a chemistry, whatever, it doesn't need to be sexual at all....if I feel for someone, I like having them in my life, will do pretty much anything for them if they have a need, etc. I do get offended if someone doesn't want a friendship, but they want to rush into romance....I don't really get it, but I know a lot of women are on a schedule to find a mate and procreate, and they feel like you're wasting their time, etc....
It’s not so much rushing to get into a relationship
Is that if you have feelings you invest your end up getting more hurt
It’s a huge gamble on pain if nothing comes of it.
friendship is closer to everything than it is to nothing IME...has always lasted longer than romantic love for me....there are women I've been friends with, that I felt were so beautiful, so amazing etc., that I knew not to get involved with romantically, or even think about them in that way, bc it woud destroy the relatoinship altogether, and I respected them too much and valued the friendship too much to do that....
Why do feel that you are a better friend than a partner ?
Not judging but just putting out a question for you- do you think it's the "expectations side of the partner/spouse relationship that brings out the worst in you? Maybe because you can say no to meet a friend but if your partner would want to meet up after a hard day at yiur work, it won't be as easy to say no ?
Just a thought
Are you a Scorpio? 🙂
I actually have an easier time saying no to my SO than a close friend....probably just too damaged from my upbringing....some people really are just not cut out for relationships that last a lifetime IMO....with friendship, I'm generous, thoughtful, supportive, rarely get into any disputes or arguments ever....not possessive or jealous at all, my friends come/go as they please and I don't put expectations on them....in romantic relationships, the jealous/possessive side rears its head, I do have expectations, get bored easily, my pride is ridiculous, I'm demanding/domineering, self-centered, can be verbally abusive, manipulative, often vindictive as well - basically every bad thing lol....I actually notice these qualities more as I get older ....pretty much every SO of mine has said I treat my friends better than I treat them....I also notice I have much stronger chemistry with people I am just flat out incompatible with in many ways....Smooth drama-free connections bore me to death. I have had a lot of good LTRs, and am thankful for the experiences, but I think the buildup of all these qualities over time eventually breaks the person....In my latters yrs, I've really been looking at the ways I sabotage things, and considering whether or not its intentional on some level, either bc I'm bored and desire change, or I'm just deeply skeptical in general of the kind of long term love/faithfulness people are looking for in marriage....I'm a taurus....
I'm a really impressed with how self aware you are!
I like the sound of you, a lot. In a friendly way ofcourse.
I do want a relationship but I want it to be "the one"
I'm fed up of all the drama some SO cause !
I'm love settled progressive and organically growing life, it's not a hard concept to understand right? But yet, I'm not succeeding lol.click to expand
well, don't like it too much lol....not that I'm courting you, but this is basically what I tell every woman I've been involved with in the beginning....I swear I could tell them I've murdered people and buried the bodies in my yard and they would be like "oh I love your honesty" eyes all glazed over lol....I'm deeply cynical/skeptical w/regards to love in general at this point in time....if someone who did seem like they are "the one" did come along, I'd probalby run from them as I know I have in the past....The strongest connections for me bring the deepest insecurities and vulnerabilities to the surface, and those people can thus hurt you the most. The types I've attracted definitely are not shy to do so either. Love is dangerous. I just see it all as a learning experience and my expectations are pretty low....I know scorps see the world very differently though, and I respect that....

Posted by La_Dolce_Vita_ScorpioPosted by MetatronPosted by La_Dolce_Vita_ScorpioPosted by MetatronPosted by La_Dolce_Vita_ScorpioPosted by MetatronPosted by ImpulsvPosted by Metatron
for me, its because I really want to be friends....love is love...if we have a connection, a chemistry, whatever, it doesn't need to be sexual at all....if I feel for someone, I like having them in my life, will do pretty much anything for them if they have a need, etc. I do get offended if someone doesn't want a friendship, but they want to rush into romance....I don't really get it, but I know a lot of women are on a schedule to find a mate and procreate, and they feel like you're wasting their time, etc....
It’s not so much rushing to get into a relationship
Is that if you have feelings you invest your end up getting more hurt
It’s a huge gamble on pain if nothing comes of it.
friendship is closer to everything than it is to nothing IME...has always lasted longer than romantic love for me....there are women I've been friends with, that I felt were so beautiful, so amazing etc., that I knew not to get involved with romantically, or even think about them in that way, bc it woud destroy the relatoinship altogether, and I respected them too much and valued the friendship too much to do that....
Why do feel that you are a better friend than a partner ?
Not judging but just putting out a question for you- do you think it's the "expectations side of the partner/spouse relationship that brings out the worst in you? Maybe because you can say no to meet a friend but if your partner would want to meet up after a hard day at yiur work, it won't be as easy to say no ?
Just a thought
Are you a Scorpio? 🙂
I actually have an easier time saying no to my SO than a close friend....probably just too damaged from my upbringing....some people really are just not cut out for relationships that last a lifetime IMO....with friendship, I'm generous, thoughtful, supportive, rarely get into any disputes or arguments ever....not possessive or jealous at all, my friends come/go as they please and I don't put expectations on them....in romantic relationships, the jealous/possessive side rears its head, I do have expectations, get bored easily, my pride is ridiculous, I'm demanding/domineering, self-centered, can be verbally abusive, manipulative, often vindictive as well - basically every bad thing lol....I actually notice these qualities more as I get older ....pretty much every SO of mine has said I treat my friends better than I treat them....I also notice I have much stronger chemistry with people I am just flat out incompatible with in many ways....Smooth drama-free connections bore me to death. I have had a lot of good LTRs, and am thankful for the experiences, but I think the buildup of all these qualities over time eventually breaks the person....In my latters yrs, I've really been looking at the ways I sabotage things, and considering whether or not its intentional on some level, either bc I'm bored and desire change, or I'm just deeply skeptical in general of the kind of long term love/faithfulness people are looking for in marriage....I'm a taurus....
I'm a really impressed with how self aware you are!
I like the sound of you, a lot. In a friendly way ofcourse.
I do want a relationship but I want it to be "the one"
I'm fed up of all the drama some SO cause !
I'm love settled progressive and organically growing life, it's not a hard concept to understand right? But yet, I'm not succeeding lol.
well, don't like it too much lol....not that I'm courting you, but this is basically what I tell every woman I've been involved with in the beginning....I swear I could tell them I've murdered people and buried the bodies in my yard and they would be like "oh I love your honesty" eyes all glazed over lol....I'm deeply cynical/skeptical w/regards to love in general at this point in time....if someone who did seem like they are "the one" did come along, I'd probalby run from them as I know I have in the past....The strongest connections for me bring the deepest insecurities and vulnerabilities to the surface, and those people can thus hurt you the most. The types I've attracted definitely are not shy to do so either. Love is dangerous. I just see it all as a learning experience and my expectations are pretty low....I know scorps see the world very differently though, and I respect that....
Lol, nope. I'm very practical person, although I have an unhealthy interest in serial killers, if you said that you've murdered people, I'd smile (my best one might I add), distract you and ask you to see your front door from outside as I really liked the colour/pattern of it and will do a runner.
I like self awareness not psychopaths (not saying you are one).
Being self aware and honest are 2 different concept all together, the lines might be blurred but differences when figured between the concept will differentiate things. 🙂
My expectations are just growth, progression and fun. And yes, my own space too every now and then
Sex is an integral part of romsntic bonding for me, so the above expectations if not met, sex would just disappear from my relationship as I can't get involved if my emotions aren't 100% 🙂click to expand
I think I have a lot of self awareness, yeah, but I'm not sure I have the ability to change much. I am always learning, but behaviorally I seem to be regressing at least the last several years. I struggle with addictive tendencies for sure. Also have a fascination with serial killers. Was just watching a documentary on Manson last night. I find him fascinating and I watch his interviews on youtube all the time. I envy legitimate non-criminal psychopaths only to the extent that they don't have the same burdens of empathy/guilt for some of their behavior patterns, but I also have a huge amount of sympathy for the criminal psychopaths, as I think they are the product of a society that is woefully under-educated around the nature of the disorder, stigmatizes it, and can often catalyze the violence. On sex, I'm actually the same....I haven't met too many men like myself that require emotional connection (demisexual). I actually feel like I've been rushed into sex in most of my relationships. Ideal for me is around the 6 month mark lol...

Really most people just don't want to take the time out of their days to make something real. A lot of it is because the instant satisfaction of the internet and social media, but thats off topic.
Really if people just accepted the whole friend thing, tried a bit harder to become close, and true never ending love is more likely to follow. I always considered becoming best friends first, lovers second. Because then you learn each other boundaries, deeper thoughts and opinions, and learn how to respect each other deeper. Like I could say direct things to my bestfriend I'd never say to a normal friend, and we never argue long because we respect each other on a deeper level. Thats how it should be with a lover imo.
Really if people just accepted the whole friend thing, tried a bit harder to become close, and true never ending love is more likely to follow. I always considered becoming best friends first, lovers second. Because then you learn each other boundaries, deeper thoughts and opinions, and learn how to respect each other deeper. Like I could say direct things to my bestfriend I'd never say to a normal friend, and we never argue long because we respect each other on a deeper level. Thats how it should be with a lover imo.

Posted by La_Dolce_Vita_ScorpioPosted by MetatronPosted by La_Dolce_Vita_ScorpioPosted by MetatronPosted by La_Dolce_Vita_ScorpioPosted by MetatronPosted by La_Dolce_Vita_ScorpioPosted by MetatronPosted by ImpulsvPosted by Metatron
for me, its because I really want to be friends....love is love...if we have a connection, a chemistry, whatever, it doesn't need to be sexual at all....if I feel for someone, I like having them in my life, will do pretty much anything for them if they have a need, etc. I do get offended if someone doesn't want a friendship, but they want to rush into romance....I don't really get it, but I know a lot of women are on a schedule to find a mate and procreate, and they feel like you're wasting their time, etc....
It’s not so much rushing to get into a relationship
Is that if you have feelings you invest your end up getting more hurt
It’s a huge gamble on pain if nothing comes of it.
friendship is closer to everything than it is to nothing IME...has always lasted longer than romantic love for me....there are women I've been friends with, that I felt were so beautiful, so amazing etc., that I knew not to get involved with romantically, or even think about them in that way, bc it woud destroy the relatoinship altogether, and I respected them too much and valued the friendship too much to do that....
Why do feel that you are a better friend than a partner ?
Not judging but just putting out a question for you- do you think it's the "expectations side of the partner/spouse relationship that brings out the worst in you? Maybe because you can say no to meet a friend but if your partner would want to meet up after a hard day at yiur work, it won't be as easy to say no ?
Just a thought
Are you a Scorpio? 🙂
I actually have an easier time saying no to my SO than a close friend....probably just too damaged from my upbringing....some people really are just not cut out for relationships that last a lifetime IMO....with friendship, I'm generous, thoughtful, supportive, rarely get into any disputes or arguments ever....not possessive or jealous at all, my friends come/go as they please and I don't put expectations on them....in romantic relationships, the jealous/possessive side rears its head, I do have expectations, get bored easily, my pride is ridiculous, I'm demanding/domineering, self-centered, can be verbally abusive, manipulative, often vindictive as well - basically every bad thing lol....I actually notice these qualities more as I get older ....pretty much every SO of mine has said I treat my friends better than I treat them....I also notice I have much stronger chemistry with people I am just flat out incompatible with in many ways....Smooth drama-free connections bore me to death. I have had a lot of good LTRs, and am thankful for the experiences, but I think the buildup of all these qualities over time eventually breaks the person....In my latters yrs, I've really been looking at the ways I sabotage things, and considering whether or not its intentional on some level, either bc I'm bored and desire change, or I'm just deeply skeptical in general of the kind of long term love/faithfulness people are looking for in marriage....I'm a taurus....
I'm a really impressed with how self aware you are!
I like the sound of you, a lot. In a friendly way ofcourse.
I do want a relationship but I want it to be "the one"
I'm fed up of all the drama some SO cause !
I'm love settled progressive and organically growing life, it's not a hard concept to understand right? But yet, I'm not succeeding lol.
well, don't like it too much lol....not that I'm courting you, but this is basically what I tell every woman I've been involved with in the beginning....I swear I could tell them I've murdered people and buried the bodies in my yard and they would be like "oh I love your honesty" eyes all glazed over lol....I'm deeply cynical/skeptical w/regards to love in general at this point in time....if someone who did seem like they are "the one" did come along, I'd probalby run from them as I know I have in the past....The strongest connections for me bring the deepest insecurities and vulnerabilities to the surface, and those people can thus hurt you the most. The types I've attracted definitely are not shy to do so either. Love is dangerous. I just see it all as a learning experience and my expectations are pretty low....I know scorps see the world very differently though, and I respect that....
Lol, nope. I'm very practical person, although I have an unhealthy interest in serial killers, if you said that you've murdered people, I'd smile (my best one might I add), distract you and ask you to see your front door from outside as I really liked the colour/pattern of it and will do a runner.
I like self awareness not psychopaths (not saying you are one).
Being self aware and honest are 2 different concept all together, the lines might be blurred but differences when figured between the concept will differentiate things. 🙂
My expectations are just growth, progression and fun. And yes, my own space too every now and then
Sex is an integral part of romsntic bonding for me, so the above expectations if not met, sex would just disappear from my relationship as I can't get involved if my emotions aren't 100% 🙂
I think I have a lot of self awareness, yeah, but I'm not sure I have the ability to change much. I am always learning, but behaviorally I seem to be regressing at least the last several years. I struggle with addictive tendencies for sure. Also have a fascination with serial killers. Was just watching a documentary on Manson last night. I find him fascinating and I watch his interviews on youtube all the time. I envy legitimate non-criminal psychopaths only to the extent that they don't have the same burdens of empathy/guilt for some of their behavior patterns, but I also have a huge amount of sympathy for the criminal psychopaths, as I think they are the product of a society that is woefully under-educated around the nature of the disorder, stigmatizes it, and can often catalyze the violence. On sex, I'm actually the same....I haven't met too many men like myself that require emotoinal connection (demisexual). I actually feel like I've been rushed into sex in most of my relationships. Ideal for me is around the 6 month mark lol...
I will disagree with you on the sympathy bit. There are different type of people turning to that kind of gruesome violence.
Stigma cab really change perception and behaviour quicker than one can fathom but I don't see any sympathy for someone who kills and derives pleasure out of it. It's an illness not a state of mind anymore.
Regarding sex, I agree. It had been similar for me too except with my Scorpio Ex. That relationship was so good that like you say, in hindsight I might have sabotaged it with my own insecurities 🙂click to expand
w/criminal psychopaths, the problem I have in holding them culpable is that the current psychological understanding is that they lack the capacity for empathy inherently, which is so fundamental to ethical decisions, so the decision to kill or not, from a neuroscientific standpoint, is not that much different for them, than which color shirt to wear.......they often have to reason their way towards ethical decisions, in a very utilitarian/pragmatic sort of manner....if you take a person like that, and subject them to abuse, ostracization, on a large enough scale, you can probably predict a certain percentage will become violent...
the exaggerated deceptive and manipulative aspects that often characterize their personality seem to be basic survival mechanisms as, from a very young age, its usually widely noted that they are very different, and lacking in some highly valued stock human traits...they have to learn to mirror emotions very well just to get by, but that sort of fabricated empathy doesn't aid them in making ethical decisions like actual empathy does everyone else....I always say to imagine your own, or anyone's subjective consciousness just as an abstraction....If you could drop it into the body of Charles Manson, bound by his genetic and corresponding psychological predispositions, and then experience the abandonment and abuse he did as a child, time in correctional facilities, etc., can you really be sure you would do any better? Perhaps you would turn out even worse.... anyway, a discussion for another time/thread perhaps lol.....getting too deep for a relationship advice thread....

Posted by La_Dolce_Vita_ScorpioPosted by MetatronPosted by La_Dolce_Vita_ScorpioPosted by MetatronPosted by La_Dolce_Vita_ScorpioPosted by MetatronPosted by La_Dolce_Vita_ScorpioPosted by MetatronPosted by La_Dolce_Vita_ScorpioPosted by MetatronPosted by ImpulsvPosted by Metatron
for me, its because I really want to be friends....love is love...if we have a connection, a chemistry, whatever, it doesn't need to be sexual at all....if I feel for someone, I like having them in my life, will do pretty much anything for them if they have a need, etc. I do get offended if someone doesn't want a friendship, but they want to rush into romance....I don't really get it, but I know a lot of women are on a schedule to find a mate and procreate, and they feel like you're wasting their time, etc....
It’s not so much rushing to get into a relationship
Is that if you have feelings you invest your end up getting more hurt
It’s a huge gamble on pain if nothing comes of it.
friendship is closer to everything than it is to nothing IME...has always lasted longer than romantic love for me....there are women I've been friends with, that I felt were so beautiful, so amazing etc., that I knew not to get involved with romantically, or even think about them in that way, bc it woud destroy the relatoinship altogether, and I respected them too much and valued the friendship too much to do that....
Why do feel that you are a better friend than a partner ?
Not judging but just putting out a question for you- do you think it's the "expectations side of the partner/spouse relationship that brings out the worst in you? Maybe because you can say no to meet a friend but if your partner would want to meet up after a hard day at yiur work, it won't be as easy to say no ?
Just a thought
Are you a Scorpio? 🙂
I actually have an easier time saying no to my SO than a close friend....probably just too damaged from my upbringing....some people really are just not cut out for relationships that last a lifetime IMO....with friendship, I'm generous, thoughtful, supportive, rarely get into any disputes or arguments ever....not possessive or jealous at all, my friends come/go as they please and I don't put expectations on them....in romantic relationships, the jealous/possessive side rears its head, I do have expectations, get bored easily, my pride is ridiculous, I'm demanding/domineering, self-centered, can be verbally abusive, manipulative, often vindictive as well - basically every bad thing lol....I actually notice these qualities more as I get older ....pretty much every SO of mine has said I treat my friends better than I treat them....I also notice I have much stronger chemistry with people I am just flat out incompatible with in many ways....Smooth drama-free connections bore me to death. I have had a lot of good LTRs, and am thankful for the experiences, but I think the buildup of all these qualities over time eventually breaks the person....In my latters yrs, I've really been looking at the ways I sabotage things, and considering whether or not its intentional on some level, either bc I'm bored and desire change, or I'm just deeply skeptical in general of the kind of long term love/faithfulness people are looking for in marriage....I'm a taurus....
I'm a really impressed with how self aware you are!
I like the sound of you, a lot. In a friendly way ofcourse.
I do want a relationship but I want it to be "the one"
I'm fed up of all the drama some SO cause !
I'm love settled progressive and organically growing life, it's not a hard concept to understand right? But yet, I'm not succeeding lol.
well, don't like it too much lol....not that I'm courting you, but this is basically what I tell every woman I've been involved with in the beginning....I swear I could tell them I've murdered people and buried the bodies in my yard and they would be like "oh I love your honesty" eyes all glazed over lol....I'm deeply cynical/skeptical w/regards to love in general at this point in time....if someone who did seem like they are "the one" did come along, I'd probalby run from them as I know I have in the past....The strongest connections for me bring the deepest insecurities and vulnerabilities to the surface, and those people can thus hurt you the most. The types I've attracted definitely are not shy to do so either. Love is dangerous. I just see it all as a learning experience and my expectations are pretty low....I know scorps see the world very differently though, and I respect that....
Lol, nope. I'm very practical person, although I have an unhealthy interest in serial killers, if you said that you've murdered people, I'd smile (my best one might I add), distract you and ask you to see your front door from outside as I really liked the colour/pattern of it and will do a runner.
I like self awareness not psychopaths (not saying you are one).
Being self aware and honest are 2 different concept all together, the lines might be blurred but differences when figured between the concept will differentiate things. 🙂
My expectations are just growth, progression and fun. And yes, my own space too every now and then
Sex is an integral part of romsntic bonding for me, so the above expectations if not met, sex would just disappear from my relationship as I can't get involved if my emotions aren't 100% 🙂
I think I have a lot of self awareness, yeah, but I'm not sure I have the ability to change much. I am always learning, but behaviorally I seem to be regressing at least the last several years. I struggle with addictive tendencies for sure. Also have a fascination with serial killers. Was just watching a documentary on Manson last night. I find him fascinating and I watch his interviews on youtube all the time. I envy legitimate non-criminal psychopaths only to the extent that they don't have the same burdens of empathy/guilt for some of their behavior patterns, but I also have a huge amount of sympathy for the criminal psychopaths, as I think they are the product of a society that is woefully under-educated around the nature of the disorder, stigmatizes it, and can often catalyze the violence. On sex, I'm actually the same....I haven't met too many men like myself that require emotoinal connection (demisexual). I actually feel like I've been rushed into sex in most of my relationships. Ideal for me is around the 6 month mark lol...
I will disagree with you on the sympathy bit. There are different type of people turning to that kind of gruesome violence.
Stigma cab really change perception and behaviour quicker than one can fathom but I don't see any sympathy for someone who kills and derives pleasure out of it. It's an illness not a state of mind anymore.
Regarding sex, I agree. It had been similar for me too except with my Scorpio Ex. That relationship was so good that like you say, in hindsight I might have sabotaged it with my own insecurities 🙂
w/criminal psychopaths, the problem I have in holding them culpable is that the current psychological understanding is that they lack the capacity for empathy inherently, which is so fundamental to ethical decisions, so the decision to kill or not, from a neuroscientific standpoint, is not that much different for them, than which color shirt to wear.......they often have to reason their way towards ethical decisions, in a very utilitarian/pragmatic sort of manner....if you take a person like that, and subject them to abuse, ostracization, on a large enough scale, you can probably predict a certain percentage will become violent...
the exaggerated deceptive and manipulative aspects that often characterize their personality seem to be basic survival mechanisms as, from a very young age, its usually widely noted that they are very different, and lacking in some highly valued stock human traits...they have to learn to mirror emotions very well just to get by, but that sort of fabricated empathy doesn't aid them in making ethical decisions like actual empathy does everyone else....I always say to imagine your own, or anyone's subjective consciousness just as an abstraction....If you could drop it into the body of Charles Manson, bound by his genetic and cooresponding psychological predispositions, and then experience the abandonment and abuse he did as a child, time in correctional facilities, etc., can you really be sure you would do any better? Perhaps you would turn out even worse.... anyway, a discussion for another time/thread perhaps lol.....getting too deep for a relationship advice thread....
Make a new thread if you like I'm very interested. I'll watch the said documentary tonight.click to expand
have to get back to work for the time being lol but I could do that in the future....the docu-series was ABC's Manson Family Truth and Lies. Its on hulu if you have it....
Posted by MetatronPosted by La_Dolce_Vita_ScorpioPosted by MetatronPosted by ImpulsvPosted by Metatron
for me, its because I really want to be friends....love is love...if we have a connection, a chemistry, whatever, it doesn't need to be sexual at all....if I feel for someone, I like having them in my life, will do pretty much anything for them if they have a need, etc. I do get offended if someone doesn't want a friendship, but they want to rush into romance....I don't really get it, but I know a lot of women are on a schedule to find a mate and procreate, and they feel like you're wasting their time, etc....
It’s not so much rushing to get into a relationship
Is that if you have feelings you invest your end up getting more hurt
It’s a huge gamble on pain if nothing comes of it.
friendship is closer to everything than it is to nothing IME...has always lasted longer than romantic love for me....there are women I've been friends with, that I felt were so beautiful, so amazing etc., that I knew not to get involved with romantically, or even think about them in that way, bc it woud destroy the relatoinship altogether, and I respected them too much and valued the friendship too much to do that....
Why do feel that you are a better friend than a partner ?
Not judging but just putting out a question for you- do you think it's the "expectations side of the partner/spouse relationship that brings out the worst in you? Maybe because you can say no to meet a friend but if your partner would want to meet up after a hard day at yiur work, it won't be as easy to say no ?
Just a thought
Are you a Scorpio? 🙂
I actually have an easier time saying no to my SO than a close friend....probably just too damaged from my upbringing....some people really are just not cut out for relationships that last a lifetime IMO....with friendship, I'm generous, thoughtful, supportive, rarely get into any disputes or arguments ever....not possessive or jealous at all, my friends come/go as they please and I don't put expectations on them....in romantic relationships, the jealous/possessive side rears its head, I do have expectations, get bored easily, my pride is ridiculous, I'm demanding/domineering, self-centered, can be verbally abusive, manipulative, often vindictive as well - basically every bad thing lol....I actually notice these qualities more as I get older ....pretty much every SO of mine has said I treat my friends better than I treat them....I also notice I have much stronger chemistry with people I am just flat out incompatible with in many ways....Smooth drama-free connections bore me to death. I have had a lot of good LTRs, and am thankful for the experiences, but I think the buildup of all these qualities over time eventually breaks the person....In my latters yrs, I've really been looking at the ways I sabotage things, and considering whether or not its intentional on some level, either bc I'm bored and desire change, or I'm just deeply skeptical in general of the kind of long term love/faithfulness people are looking for in marriage....I'm a taurus....click to expand
You as a Taurus what would make you trigger to your possessive side ? Would you ever tell someone you love them ? How well do you express your feelings??
@metatron hey can I ask you. Well a Taurus string you along til they figure out what they want or no ? By experience mine told me he wasn’t that into me but I was like that’s fine we were both single having fun but why would he tell me he loved me or he wanted me ? Got mad that I declined his friendship because he wanted a fwb but no lie the whole situation was confusing so I cut it off. Did it ever sound like he liked me he said he did but I could never tell. I don’t know if that was to spire my feelings but I was sensing he wasn’t being honest so I just ended it. So what would make him reach out to me but when I did to him he never replied.

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@metatron hey can I ask you. Well a Taurus string you along til they figure out what they want or no ? By experience mine told me he wasn’t that into me but I was like that’s fine we were both single having fun but why would he tell me he loved me or he wanted me ? Got mad that I declined his friendship because he wanted a fwb but no lie the whole situation was confusing so I cut it off. Did it ever sound like he liked me he said he did but I could never tell. I don’t know if that was to spire my feelings but I was sensing he wasn’t being honest so I just ended it. So what would make him reach out to me but when I did to him he never replied.
maybe I'm getting your story confused, but don't you have a kid together? and yes a Taurus man would string you along til they figure out what they want...any man or woman would....
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